On Wed, 17 Dec 2014 13:32:57 -0500, "Flying Pig"
wrote:

Doing engine trials at the moment; on the hook waiting for the tide to turn,
he

http://share.findmespot.com/shared/f...PLcZGvSb3n Me


Engine test? LOL! Real sailors don't need no stinking engine.

Real sailors use their sails to sail. Pretend sailors rely
primarily upon their engines and call it sailing.

I see you successfully motored down the ICW to Ft. Pierce.

Well, as pitiful as that is, it sure beats what you've
been doing for the past two or three years.

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Sir Gregory

On Fri, 19 Dec 2014 14:16:30 -0500, "Sir Gregory Hall, Esq."
wrote:

On Wed, 17 Dec 2014 13:32:57 -0500, "Flying Pig"
wrote:

Doing engine trials at the moment; on the hook waiting for the tide to turn,
he

http://share.findmespot.com/shared/f...PLcZGvSb3n Me


Engine test? LOL! Real sailors don't need no stinking engine.

Real sailors use their sails to sail. Pretend sailors rely
primarily upon their engines and call it sailing.

I see you successfully motored down the ICW to Ft. Pierce.

Well, as pitiful as that is, it sure beats what you've
been doing for the past two or three years.


Wait, I expanded the track and it's worse than I thought.

It looks like a round trip so no overall progress was
made. Must have been some dire necessity to return to
the starting point. One of the many hundreds of systems
installed must have malfunctioned.

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Sir Gregory

On Fri, 19 Dec 2014 14:22:51 -0500, "Sir Gregory Hall, Esq."
wrote:

On Fri, 19 Dec 2014 14:16:30 -0500, "Sir Gregory Hall, Esq."
wrote:

On Wed, 17 Dec 2014 13:32:57 -0500, "Flying Pig"
wrote:

Doing engine trials at the moment; on the hook waiting for the tide to turn,
he

http://share.findmespot.com/shared/f...PLcZGvSb3n Me


Engine test? LOL! Real sailors don't need no stinking engine.

Real sailors use their sails to sail. Pretend sailors rely
primarily upon their engines and call it sailing.

I see you successfully motored down the ICW to Ft. Pierce.

Well, as pitiful as that is, it sure beats what you've
been doing for the past two or three years.


Wait, I expanded the track and it's worse than I thought.

It looks like a round trip so no overall progress was
made. Must have been some dire necessity to return to
the starting point. One of the many hundreds of systems
installed must have malfunctioned.

Hey! Great Sailorman! Haven't you any more epic tales about your
corking great cruise down the bay and (gasp) anchoring all night and
the triumphant return.

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Cheers,

Bruce in Bangkok

On Fri, 19 Dec 2014 14:16:30 -0500, "Sir Gregory Hall, Esq."
wrote:

On Wed, 17 Dec 2014 13:32:57 -0500, "Flying Pig"
wrote:

Doing engine trials at the moment; on the hook waiting for the tide to turn,
he

http://share.findmespot.com/shared/f...PLcZGvSb3n Me


Engine test? LOL! Real sailors don't need no stinking engine.

Real sailors use their sails to sail. Pretend sailors rely
primarily upon their engines and call it sailing.

I see you successfully motored down the ICW to Ft. Pierce.

Well, as pitiful as that is, it sure beats what you've
been doing for the past two or three years.

Well, if your assertion is correct then you obviously not a "cruiser"
as your great search for the best outboard motor is well documented on
the web.

Yes, yes, I know you will to alibi by saying that it was for your
dinghy, but a bloke who can't operate a tiny little dinghy without a
motor can obviously not operate a great big, 25 ft, sailing boat
without a motor.

--
Cheers,

Bruce in Bangkok

On Sat, 20 Dec 2014 07:13:21 +0700, wrote:

Well, if your assertion is correct then you obviously not a "cruiser"
as your great search for the best outboard motor is well documented on
the web.

Yes, yes, I know you will to alibi by saying that it was for your
dinghy, but a bloke who can't operate a tiny little dinghy without a
motor can obviously not operate a great big, 25 ft, sailing boat
without a motor.

I don't know which one you are referring to
because I do have two little outboards. I
have a 2.5 HP for the dinghy and a 6 HP for
the mother ship.

The 2.5 is a Suzuki 4-stroke, single cylinder
and the 6 is a Tohatsu 4-stroke Saildrive
single cylinder.

Both of them run like new. The Tohatsu, in
particular, usually starts on the first or
second pull even when I haven't fired it up
for months. It's rarely needed because I can
sail most everywhere I go around here. That's
one reason you will rarely find me in the
confines of the ICW.

The 2.5 HP Suzuki recently gave me some
problems in that it would no longer idle or
run at low speeds.

I took apart the carburetor and found that
deposits had built up on the brass, midrange
jet, stand tube, small orifices. I cleaned them
out using a suitably sized brass wire. I also
had to clean out the tiny orifices in the throat
of the carb near the throttle plate. There are
four of them and three were clogged with some
kind of black deposit. They are so small that
I had to sand down a thin, stainless steel wire
to a long and slender point in order to clean
but not ream the aluminum openings.

All in an afternoon's work, though, as I'm an
expert at repairing small engines of all kinds.

Now it runs like new again.

I'm not like Capt. Skippy. When I fix things,
they generally stay fixed for a long while
because I have few enough things that I can
easily become an expert at their upkeep and
I'm not trapped in an everlasting cycle of
upkeep and repair and installation and re-
installation.

This is probably because 1) I enjoy sailing
more than installation and repair and re-
installation, 2) I don't have a woman nagging
at me to make the boat into a floating condo.


--
Sir Gregory

On Fri, 19 Dec 2014 20:30:20 -0500, "Sir Gregory Hall, Esq."
wrote:

On Sat, 20 Dec 2014 07:13:21 +0700, wrote:

Well, if your assertion is correct then you obviously not a "cruiser"
as your great search for the best outboard motor is well documented on
the web.

Yes, yes, I know you will to alibi by saying that it was for your
dinghy, but a bloke who can't operate a tiny little dinghy without a
motor can obviously not operate a great big, 25 ft, sailing boat
without a motor.

I don't know which one you are referring to
because I do have two little outboards. I
have a 2.5 HP for the dinghy and a 6 HP for
the mother ship.

Why in the world would a "real sailor" want an engine for his "ship"
after all a real sailorman would sail, not run a stinking outboard
motor. Wouldn't he?

--
Cheers,

Bruce in Bangkok

On Sat, 20 Dec 2014 17:45:23 +0700, wrote:

Why in the world would a "real sailor" want an engine for his "ship"
after all a real sailorman would sail, not run a stinking outboard
motor. Wouldn't he?


You don't seem to get it, Bruce. A 6 HP outboard motor on a heavy
27-foot sailboat (8,500 lbs) is almost not enough to get it to
hull speed in flat water. Throw in any kind of wind and seas and
it's far more efficient and faster to sail.

Big diesel motors are used most of the time because they are so
powerful that they can deal with high winds and seas even from
dead ahead.

So real sailors tend to use weak motors because they know the
proper sails do a faster and better job while the diesel motor
heads rarely even bother raising sail because they become spoiled
by the diesel and turn into motor heads. Some of them are honest
enough to admit that they have turned into trawler people because
they could no longer handle the rigors of actually sailing.

--
Sir Gregory

On Sat, 20 Dec 2014 14:38:18 -0500, "Sir Gregory Hall, Esq."
wrote:

On Sat, 20 Dec 2014 17:45:23 +0700, wrote:

Why in the world would a "real sailor" want an engine for his "ship"
after all a real sailorman would sail, not run a stinking outboard
motor. Wouldn't he?


You don't seem to get it, Bruce. A 6 HP outboard motor on a heavy
27-foot sailboat (8,500 lbs) is almost not enough to get it to
hull speed in flat water. Throw in any kind of wind and seas and
it's far more efficient and faster to sail.

No, the guy that doesn't get it isn't me. You are the one telling the
world that a real sailorman doesn't need an engine and then we
discover that you, in fact, have an engine on your boat.

Which pretty well proves that either you aren't a real sailor, or that
you tell lies.

Big diesel motors are used most of the time because they are so
powerful that they can deal with high winds and seas even from
dead ahead.

So real sailors tend to use weak motors because they know the
proper sails do a faster and better job while the diesel motor
heads rarely even bother raising sail because they become spoiled
by the diesel and turn into motor heads. Some of them are honest
enough to admit that they have turned into trawler people because
they could no longer handle the rigors of actually sailing.

I see... so sails do a faster job, but the engine is capable of
propelling the boat in the face of high winds and heavy seas...

High Winds being, by definition 30 Knot winds and "heavy seas" being
what? 6 - 8 foot breaking waves?

Are you sure that you are a boater?
--
Cheers,

Bruce in Bangkok