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Round and round we go, or, "sand in your eyes"
On Wed, 25 Apr 2012 11:34:02 -0400, "Flying Pig"
wrote: What kinds of places would use Mylar patternmaking material where I might obtain some scrap (I only need ~4" square)? === Sailmakers will definitely have some, possibly canvas shops. You can usually buy individual sheets at art supply stores. It's also possible that you could use a small piece of Strataglass or something similar. Canvas shops will definitely have that. |
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Round and round we go, or, "sand in your eyes"
"Wayne.B" wrote in message
... On Wed, 25 Apr 2012 11:34:02 -0400, "Flying Pig" wrote: What kinds of places would use Mylar patternmaking material where I might obtain some scrap (I only need ~4" square)? === Sailmakers will definitely have some, possibly canvas shops. You can usually buy individual sheets at art supply stores. It's also possible that you could use a small piece of Strataglass or something similar. Canvas shops will definitely have that. Hi, Wayne, and thanks for that. Strataglass I can come by, and it's possible that my canvas shop has some mylar, if that's common - but I'd inferred from what you'd said that it would be harder/stiffer than that. From our windows, it seems to me that it would not make a very straight (straighter than saran wrap, of course!) surface, as flexible as it is, and what I see canvas folks using for patternmaking is VERY floppy, not very heavy stuff.. Inferred is that the stuff you're talking about is pretty flexible? L8R Skip -- Morgan 461 #2 SV Flying Pig KI4MPC See our galleries at www.justpickone.org/skip/gallery ! Follow us at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/TheFlyingPigLog and/or http://groups.google.com/group/flyingpiglog When a man comes to like a sea life, he is not fit to live on land. - Dr. Samuel Johnson |
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Round and round we go, or, "sand in your eyes"
On Wed, 25 Apr 2012 13:55:48 -0400, "Flying Pig"
wrote: Strataglass I can come by, and it's possible that my canvas shop has some mylar, if that's common - but I'd inferred from what you'd said that it would be harder/stiffer than that. From our windows, it seems to me that it would not make a very straight (straighter than saran wrap, of course!) surface, as flexible as it is, and what I see canvas folks using for patternmaking is VERY floppy, not very heavy stuff.. Inferred is that the stuff you're talking about is pretty flexible? === Mylar comes in different thicknesses. The kind I'm thinking of is probably comparable to crispy new (and relatively heavy) Strataglass. It needs to be heavy enough that it is relatively self fairing as you wrap it around the shaft. You can wrap multiple layers of course for extra body. |
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On Wed, 25 Apr 2012 23:01:32 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote: Mylar comes in different thicknesses. The kind I'm thinking of is probably comparable to crispy new (and relatively heavy) Strataglass. It needs to be heavy enough that it is relatively self fairing as you wrap it around the shaft. You can wrap multiple layers of course for extra body. Thinking about it, thick is not good unless it's cut to perfectly butt the edges, which would be difficult. Otherwise, the epoxy will make a shaft increasing in diameter to a raised "cliff-face" where the mylar wraps over itself. The thicker the material, the longer the incline portion. Wish I could draw a picture, but let's say the wrap is 1/4" thick (I know, that's ridiculous, but..). Wrap it around a shaft and look at the end. You'll see a curving right triangle with the base 1/4". Rick |
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On Wed, 25 Apr 2012 11:34:02 -0400, "Flying Pig"
wrote in part: Has anyone had experience in out-of-round shafts to say whether the standard packing will do its job? If I were to do a lot of shoeshining, I think I could attack the flats/ridges, but probably not get it perfectly round no matter how I danced around the circumference to avoid irregularity... This part I can address. Unfortunately the answer is no, it will not do the job. As the high spots go by, they will compress the flax, or move it out of the way if you will. The flax will not "bounce back" as the low spots go by, leaving a gap. Thick of a rubber ball and a ball of packing material. Hit the rubber ball with a hammer and it compresses, than resumes its original shape / Hit the ball of flax with a hammer and you have a disk with rounded edges. Remember the "trick" of fitting too thick flax by rolling a pipe on it to flatten? Rick |
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