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"Wayne.B" wrote in message
... On Tue, 24 Jan 2012 21:07:08 -0500, WaIIy wrote: On Tue, 24 Jan 2012 20:58:38 -0500, Wayne.B wrote: On Tue, 24 Jan 2012 19:42:47 -0500, WaIIy wrote: and we need to not have our turds floating ashore in a protected marine sanctuary. === Turds do not float ashore when procesed by a Type I MSD. They are ground up into tiny particulates and then treated with chlorine to destroy any pathogens, also removing odor and discoloration. Why is that an issue? Uhhhh, he doesn't use it. It's locked, remember? Actually it is (was) broken. Do you really think Neal is going to schlep chlorine to his boat in order to have a clean discharge? === A Type I MSD produces its' own chlorine, no schlepping required. His MSD was locked in order to be in compliance with the crazy laws. This issue however is much bigger than what Wilbur does or does not do. Thanks for your rational thoughts, Wayne. Wally seems just about as ignorant of the law as your typical, bully, FWC officer. Every bit as arrogant and biased, too. Seems not to mind putting himself on display as bitter, vindictive and incorrect. ROFLOL! One wonders if he is a FWC officer himself?? Oh, Wilbur spent about $1,500 bucks recently to upgrade and install a brand spanking new ElectroScan MSD (Defender has the best price) just because he suspected the old system might be worn out to the point where it no longer was treating sewage adequately (the Code of Federal Regulations does have a section where discharge from type I and II MSD can be tested but inspectors are few and far between and mostly check type II systems that are installed on vessels larger than 65 feet). This new system remains legal in all state waters in all states across the country including no discharge zones. However, in a no-discharge zone, the state statutes (based upon the Code of Federal Regulations) require the discharge valve to be closed and secured. It's as simple as that, yet the FWC chooses to go around harassing boaters who are in compliance with all state and federal regulations expecting they will remain ignorant, roll over, play dead and pay unwarranted fines. It seems the FWC was trying to play their Catch-22 game with good old Wilbur and lost. Now, they have egg on their faces. And, the word is spreading fast thanks to the Internet. Boaters are getting sick and tired of being treated like second-class citizens with leaky wallets. Wilbur's vessel has been and is in complete compliance with the MSD statutes. If the state wishes to cite Wilbur and other boaters similarly equipped for an MSD violation, they'd best look forward to losing case after case where boaters decide to stand up for their rights under the statutes. -- Sir Gregory |
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"WaIIy" wrote in message
... On Wed, 25 Jan 2012 09:51:49 -0500, " Sir Gregory Hall, Esq." wrote: "Wayne.B" wrote in message . .. On Tue, 24 Jan 2012 21:07:08 -0500, WaIIy wrote: On Tue, 24 Jan 2012 20:58:38 -0500, Wayne.B wrote: On Tue, 24 Jan 2012 19:42:47 -0500, WaIIy wrote: and we need to not have our turds floating ashore in a protected marine sanctuary. === Turds do not float ashore when procesed by a Type I MSD. They are ground up into tiny particulates and then treated with chlorine to destroy any pathogens, also removing odor and discoloration. Why is that an issue? Uhhhh, he doesn't use it. It's locked, remember? Actually it is (was) broken. Do you really think Neal is going to schlep chlorine to his boat in order to have a clean discharge? === A Type I MSD produces its' own chlorine, no schlepping required. His MSD was locked in order to be in compliance with the crazy laws. This issue however is much bigger than what Wilbur does or does not do. Thanks for your rational thoughts, Wayne. Wally seems just about as ignorant of the law as your typical, bully, FWC officer. Every bit as arrogant and biased, too. Seems not to mind putting himself on display as bitter, vindictive and incorrect. ROFLOL! One wonders if he is a FWC officer himself?? Oh, Wilbur spent about $1,500 bucks recently to upgrade and install a brand spanking new ElectroScan MSD (Defender has the best price) just because he suspected the old system might be worn out to the point where it no longer was treating sewage adequately (the Code of Federal Regulations does have a section where discharge from type I and II MSD can be tested but inspectors are few and far between and mostly check type II systems that are installed on vessels larger than 65 feet). This new system remains legal in all state waters in all states across the country including no discharge zones. However, in a no-discharge zone, the state statutes (based upon the Code of Federal Regulations) require the discharge valve to be closed and secured. It's as simple as that, yet the FWC chooses to go around harassing boaters who are in compliance with all state and federal regulations expecting they will remain ignorant, roll over, play dead and pay unwarranted fines. It seems the FWC was trying to play their Catch-22 game with good old Wilbur and lost. Now, they have egg on their faces. And, the word is spreading fast thanks to the Internet. Boaters are getting sick and tired of being treated like second-class citizens with leaky wallets. Wilbur's vessel has been and is in complete compliance with the MSD statutes. If the state wishes to cite Wilbur and other boaters similarly equipped for an MSD violation, they'd best look forward to losing case after case where boaters decide to stand up for their rights under the statutes. I heard you say twice that you use your boat "several" times a year. You're not a boater, you're a poseur. You didn't "suspect" your terlet was broken. It's been broken for years, give me a break. You folded and fixed your terlet because you now have a target on your back. No matter, you're still ****ting directly in the water and rationalizing it. You sure seem to delight in exchanging facts with speculation. But, then again, this is typical, priggish prattle from an insular but risibly feckless dullard. PUTZ! Wilbur Hubbard |
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