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Proposed Mobile Internet Service Interferes With GPS Units
On Dec 16, 4:01*pm, iBoaterer wrote:
In article c5da4e8d-e5c5-4d05-afe7- , says... On Dec 16, 1:12 pm, iBoaterer wrote: In article 3354b9e1-e0d9-4342-85a6- , says... On Dec 16, 12:21 pm, "Wilbur Hubbard" wrote: "Wayne.B" wrote in message .. . BusinessWeek is carrying an article today that says that government tests showed that the proposed LightSquared mobile service caused interference to 75% of all GPS receivers tested. The report can be found at:http://preview.tinyurl.com/7jyaazf There is big money behind this. I'd recommend writing your elected representatives and voicing your concerns. It seems to me real sailors needn't be concerned about this at all. Who needs GPS inland or very near coastal anyway where landmarks and navigation marks are eyeball visible? Those who proceed down the Intracoastal Waterway with eyes glued to their GPS readout are putzes to be sure. It also seems to me that where a clean GPS signal is most needed, the commercial broadcast will not have the range to reach out that far. |
Proposed Mobile Internet Service Interferes With GPS Units
"North Star" wrote in message
... On Dec 16, 1:12 pm, iBoaterer wrote: In article 3354b9e1-e0d9-4342-85a6- , says... On Dec 16, 12:21 pm, "Wilbur Hubbard" wrote: "Wayne.B" wrote in message .. . BusinessWeek is carrying an article today that says that government tests showed that the proposed LightSquared mobile service caused interference to 75% of all GPS receivers tested. The report can be found at:http://preview.tinyurl.com/7jyaazf There is big money behind this. I'd recommend writing your elected representatives and voicing your concerns. It seems to me real sailors needn't be concerned about this at all. Who needs GPS inland or very near coastal anyway where landmarks and navigation marks are eyeball visible? Those who proceed down the Intracoastal Waterway with eyes glued to their GPS readout are putzes to be sure. It also seems to me that where a clean GPS signal is most needed, the commercial broadcast will not have the range to reach out that far. These signals are very weak and short-range. Lucky if they have a workable range of a mile. "The laboratory testing was performed for the National Space-Based Positioning, Navigation, and Timing (PNT) Systems Engineering Forum, an executive branch body that helps advise policy makers on issues around GPS. It found that 69 of 92, or 75 percent, of receivers tested "experienced harmful interference" at the equivalent of 100 meters (109 yards) from a LightSquared base station." - from link above. If you regularly sail within a 100 meters of a transceiver station (they won't be on the water, folks" then be worried - be very worried, but those instances will be few and far between to non-existent. Thank you and Merry Christmas. Wilbur Hubbard Celebrating Christmas again on that mustard yellow/mauve Coronado 27? That's our Suckling Don, always quick to say crappy things about what other's have, but doesn't like it when someone points out his paint blistered house with garbage in the yard.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - // // Ah.. Kevin! // Are you saying that the mustard yellow/mauve paint scheme is // "crappy"? I said no such thing. // As a matter of fact, Capt Neil seems very proud of his Coronado 27 and // it's colours. He just might consider the acknowledgement of it as a // compliment. Right you are! It's easy to see jealousy showing . . . Wilbur has one fine-looking and capable, blue water sailing yacht, if he must say so himself. And, Cut the Mustard keeps getting better via upgrades. For example, just installed in time for the Christmas holidays (and the many babes who visit) is a brand spanking new Raritan brand, Electro/Scan type I MSD from Defender. It's the one with the electronic readouts and monitoring of the treatment process. A very nice system and it damned well better be for the best part of a grand. Now that I've kicked the collective asses of the Florida FWC to the curb, it wouldn't surprise me if they tried to get even by contracting a federal MSD effluent inspector to check to make sure my Type I system is up to the required treatment standards (yes, federal law says they can do this but qualified inspectors are few and far between and mostly check larger vessel, over 65 feet, Type II MSDs). The old Lectra/San was twenty some odd years old and probably was not doing the best of jobs even though it whirred and drew current. I'm sure the internal electrodes that produce the acid from the sea water to kill the bacteria where shot or close to shot. And probably one of the macerator or mixer blades had broke off as it made clunking noises from time to time as it something hard was getting hit inside. Also, I have a new ten-gallon holding tank which I have connected with a tee and ball valve to the output side of the MSC so I can direct treated sewage into the holding tank for use in no-discharge zones. I did not have to do all this as I won my trial against the bogus FWC charge that my vessel is a houseboat an can only meet requirements by having a holding tank installed. I'm did this in order to be a responsible sailor. (Besides, there are some close-quarters situations when anchored in close proximity to other vessels and where people are swimming where the old cedar bucket is a social affront.) Wilbur Hubbard |
Proposed Mobile Internet Service Interferes With GPS Units
"Wilbur Hubbard" wrote in message news.com... "Wayne.B" wrote in message ... BusinessWeek is carrying an article today that says that government tests showed that the proposed LightSquared mobile service caused interference to 75% of all GPS receivers tested. The report can be found at: http://preview.tinyurl.com/7jyaazf There is big money behind this. I'd recommend writing your elected representatives and voicing your concerns. It seems to me real sailors needn't be concerned about this at all. Who needs GPS inland or very near coastal anyway where landmarks and navigation marks are eyeball visible? ... sorry, but I have to agree with this view. Car satnavs may be affected, but that's off topic. Alisdair |
Proposed Mobile Internet Service Interferes With GPS Units
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says... "Wilbur Hubbard" wrote in message news.com... "Wayne.B" wrote in message ... BusinessWeek is carrying an article today that says that government tests showed that the proposed LightSquared mobile service caused interference to 75% of all GPS receivers tested. The report can be found at: http://preview.tinyurl.com/7jyaazf There is big money behind this. I'd recommend writing your elected representatives and voicing your concerns. It seems to me real sailors needn't be concerned about this at all. Who needs GPS inland or very near coastal anyway where landmarks and navigation marks are eyeball visible? .. sorry, but I have to agree with this view. Car satnavs may be affected, but that's off topic. Alisdair Have you ever tried to drive your care in pea soup fog with a GPS? Boaters try and do it all the time. |
Proposed Mobile Internet Service Interferes With GPS Units
On 12/22/11 12:15 PM, BAR wrote:
In , says... "Wilbur wrote in message news.com... wrote in message ... BusinessWeek is carrying an article today that says that government tests showed that the proposed LightSquared mobile service caused interference to 75% of all GPS receivers tested. The report can be found at: http://preview.tinyurl.com/7jyaazf There is big money behind this. I'd recommend writing your elected representatives and voicing your concerns. It seems to me real sailors needn't be concerned about this at all. Who needs GPS inland or very near coastal anyway where landmarks and navigation marks are eyeball visible? .. sorry, but I have to agree with this view. Car satnavs may be affected, but that's off topic. Alisdair Have you ever tried to drive your care in pea soup fog with a GPS? Boaters try and do it all the time. I've always found that a smile drives my cares away. -- http://flickr.com/gp/hakr/oR82kN |
Proposed Mobile Internet Service Interferes With GPS Units
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says... On 12/22/11 12:15 PM, BAR wrote: In , says... "Wilbur wrote in message news.com... wrote in message ... BusinessWeek is carrying an article today that says that government tests showed that the proposed LightSquared mobile service caused interference to 75% of all GPS receivers tested. The report can be found at: http://preview.tinyurl.com/7jyaazf There is big money behind this. I'd recommend writing your elected representatives and voicing your concerns. It seems to me real sailors needn't be concerned about this at all. Who needs GPS inland or very near coastal anyway where landmarks and navigation marks are eyeball visible? .. sorry, but I have to agree with this view. Car satnavs may be affected, but that's off topic. Alisdair Have you ever tried to drive your care in pea soup fog with a GPS? Boaters try and do it all the time. I've always found that a smile drives my cares away. What cares do you have besides trying to keep your lies straight? |
Proposed Mobile Internet Service Interferes With GPS Units
On 12/22/2011 12:20 PM, X ` Man wrote:
On 12/22/11 12:15 PM, BAR wrote: In , says... "Wilbur wrote in message news.com... wrote in message ... BusinessWeek is carrying an article today that says that government tests showed that the proposed LightSquared mobile service caused interference to 75% of all GPS receivers tested. The report can be found at: http://preview.tinyurl.com/7jyaazf There is big money behind this. I'd recommend writing your elected representatives and voicing your concerns. It seems to me real sailors needn't be concerned about this at all. Who needs GPS inland or very near coastal anyway where landmarks and navigation marks are eyeball visible? .. sorry, but I have to agree with this view. Car satnavs may be affected, but that's off topic. Alisdair Have you ever tried to drive your care in pea soup fog with a GPS? Boaters try and do it all the time. I've always found that a smile drives my cares away. Here's one for you goober. ;-) Hope it helps. |
Proposed Mobile Internet Service Interferes With GPS Units
On 12/22/2011 12:20 PM, X ` Man wrote:
I've always found that a smile drives my cares away. With your caustic personality, I seriously doubt you ever smile. |
Proposed Mobile Internet Service Interferes With GPS Units
On Thu, 22 Dec 2011 16:18:38 -0000, "Alisdair Gurney"
wrote: It seems to me real sailors needn't be concerned about this at all. Who needs GPS inland or very near coastal anyway where landmarks and navigation marks are eyeball visible? .. sorry, but I have to agree with this view. ====== Not really. A lot of navigation is done in coastal waterways and inland rivers, some of it at night or in reduced visibility. It turns out that one of the best connected opponents to the proposed Lightspeed service is tractor manufacturer, John Deere. Apparently a lot of new farm tractors are equipped with precision GPS units for the purpose of accurate seed planting and other hi tech applications. |
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