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Most serious cruisers have migrated off of newsgroups and onto
moderated web based forums. That is regrettable in my opinion but you can't fight city hall. That said, let's start a thread here listing some of the better cruising web sites. I'll start with some that I've found: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Cruisers_Network_Online/ http://www.cruisersforum.com/ http://cruisersnet.net/ http://www.trawlercrawler.net/ http://ssca.org/cgi-bin/pagegen.pl?pg=home&title=Home (membership required) http://www.noonsite.com/ http://www.mtoa.net/ https://activecaptain.com/ (Interactive Cruising Guide Book - good online charts and local knowledge) A word to the wise: None of these groups tolerate asshats, personal insults or political discussion. Don't even think about it. |
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On Nov 22, 2:00*pm, iBoaterer wrote:
In article , says... Most serious cruisers have migrated off of newsgroups and onto moderated web based forums. * That is regrettable in my opinion but you can't fight city hall. * That said, let's start a thread here listing some of the better cruising web sites. I'll start with some that I've found: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Cruisers_Network_Online/ http://www.cruisersforum.com/ http://cruisersnet.net/ http://www.trawlercrawler.net/ http://ssca.org/cgi-bin/pagegen.pl?pg=home&title=Home (membership required) http://www.noonsite.com/ http://www.mtoa.net/ https://activecaptain.com/ (Interactive Cruising Guide Book - good online charts and local knowledge) A word to the wise: *None of these groups tolerate asshats, personal insults or political discussion. *Don't even think about it. That's okay, Harry doesn't have a boat!- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - ....and the usual disruptive regulars have little interest in boating. |
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On 11/22/11 1:04 PM, North Star wrote:
On Nov 22, 2:00 pm, wrote: In , says... Most serious cruisers have migrated off of newsgroups and onto moderated web based forums. That is regrettable in my opinion but you can't fight city hall. That said, let's start a thread here listing some of the better cruising web sites. I'll start with some that I've found: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Cruisers_Network_Online/ http://www.cruisersforum.com/ http://cruisersnet.net/ http://www.trawlercrawler.net/ http://ssca.org/cgi-bin/pagegen.pl?pg=home&title=Home (membership required) http://www.noonsite.com/ http://www.mtoa.net/ https://activecaptain.com/ (Interactive Cruising Guide Book - good online charts and local knowledge) A word to the wise: None of these groups tolerate asshats, personal insults or political discussion. Don't even think about it. That's okay, Harry doesn't have a boat!- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - ...and the usual disruptive regulars have little interest in boating. Gee...does W'hine behave on those sites? |
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@t16g2000vba.googlegroups.com, says... On Nov 22, 2:00*pm, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... Most serious cruisers have migrated off of newsgroups and onto moderated web based forums. * That is regrettable in my opinion but you can't fight city hall. * That said, let's start a thread here listing some of the better cruising web sites. I'll start with some that I've found: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Cruisers_Network_Online/ http://www.cruisersforum.com/ http://cruisersnet.net/ http://www.trawlercrawler.net/ http://ssca.org/cgi-bin/pagegen.pl?pg=home&title=Home (membership required) http://www.noonsite.com/ http://www.mtoa.net/ https://activecaptain.com/ (Interactive Cruising Guide Book - good online charts and local knowledge) A word to the wise: *None of these groups tolerate asshats, personal insults or political discussion. *Don't even think about it. That's okay, Harry doesn't have a boat!- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - ...and the usual disruptive regulars have little interest in boating. My reply was about boating, or lack thereof. |
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says... On 11/22/11 1:04 PM, North Star wrote: On Nov 22, 2:00 pm, wrote: In , says... Most serious cruisers have migrated off of newsgroups and onto moderated web based forums. That is regrettable in my opinion but you can't fight city hall. That said, let's start a thread here listing some of the better cruising web sites. I'll start with some that I've found: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Cruisers_Network_Online/ http://www.cruisersforum.com/ http://cruisersnet.net/ http://www.trawlercrawler.net/ http://ssca.org/cgi-bin/pagegen.pl?pg=home&title=Home (membership required) http://www.noonsite.com/ http://www.mtoa.net/ https://activecaptain.com/ (Interactive Cruising Guide Book - good online charts and local knowledge) A word to the wise: None of these groups tolerate asshats, personal insults or political discussion. Don't even think about it. That's okay, Harry doesn't have a boat!- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - ...and the usual disruptive regulars have little interest in boating. Gee...does W'hine behave on those sites? Yes. |
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On 22/11/2011 11:00 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
In , says... Most serious cruisers have migrated off of newsgroups and onto moderated web based forums. That is regrettable in my opinion but you can't fight city hall. That said, let's start a thread here listing some of the better cruising web sites. I'll start with some that I've found: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Cruisers_Network_Online/ http://www.cruisersforum.com/ http://cruisersnet.net/ http://www.trawlercrawler.net/ http://ssca.org/cgi-bin/pagegen.pl?pg=home&title=Home (membership required) http://www.noonsite.com/ http://www.mtoa.net/ https://activecaptain.com/ (Interactive Cruising Guide Book - good online charts and local knowledge) A word to the wise: None of these groups tolerate asshats, personal insults or political discussion. Don't even think about it. That's okay, Harry doesn't have a boat! He does, it is about 6 inches long in the tub that holds his rubber ducky. -- All successful people have one thing in common, if even for a moment they think rationally. |
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On 22/11/2011 11:59 AM, Wayne.B wrote:
Most serious cruisers have migrated off of newsgroups and onto moderated web based forums. That is regrettable in my opinion but you can't fight city hall. That said, let's start a thread here listing some of the better cruising web sites. I'll start with some that I've found: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Cruisers_Network_Online/ http://www.cruisersforum.com/ http://cruisersnet.net/ http://www.trawlercrawler.net/ http://ssca.org/cgi-bin/pagegen.pl?pg=home&title=Home (membership required) http://www.noonsite.com/ http://www.mtoa.net/ https://activecaptain.com/ (Interactive Cruising Guide Book - good online charts and local knowledge) A word to the wise: None of these groups tolerate asshats, personal insults or political discussion. Don't even think about it. I use cruisersforum, ssca (member) and activecaptain. I've used noonsite from time to time to access a particular blog from a long term cruiser I've corresponded with for many years. Speaking of which, I finally met up with Roger yesterday in Elizabeth City after crossing paths in Reedsville and then Deltaville and finally on the Dismal Swamp. We've crossed the Albemarle this morning and are sitting quietly in the Alligator River Marina waiting to see what tomorrow brings. Hopefully, we can get through the bridge and up into the river proper. Where are you currently? |
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On Tue, 22 Nov 2011 11:59:57 -0500, Wayne.B
wrote: Most serious cruisers have migrated off of newsgroups and onto moderated web based forums. That is regrettable in my opinion but you can't fight city hall. That said, let's start a thread here listing some of the better cruising web sites. very useful. thanks much I'll start with some that I've found: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Cruisers_Network_Online/ http://www.cruisersforum.com/ http://cruisersnet.net/ http://www.trawlercrawler.net/ http://ssca.org/cgi-bin/pagegen.pl?pg=home&title=Home (membership required) http://www.noonsite.com/ http://www.mtoa.net/ https://activecaptain.com/ (Interactive Cruising Guide Book - good online charts and local knowledge) A word to the wise: None of these groups tolerate asshats, personal insults or political discussion. Don't even think about it. |
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"Wayne.B" wrote in message
... Most serious cruisers have migrated off of newsgroups and onto moderated web based forums. That is regrettable in my opinion but you can't fight city hall. That said, let's start a thread here listing some of the better cruising web sites. snipped repeat of hyperlinks Thanks for the effort, perhaps some people might find them of value, but not me . . . I can't abide moderated forums. I find them to all be abodes of bully moderators who think their **** doesn't stink so they goose-step up and down the aisles lording their superiority and power over anybody they don't happen to like and with those they happen to disagree with. If I want a dictator I'll move to Cuba. When the oceans of the world become moderated that is when this sailor will give up sailing as an endeavor no longer worth pursuing. Wilbur Hubbard |
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On Tue, 22 Nov 2011 15:17:48 -0500, injipoint
wrote: I use cruisersforum, ssca (member) and activecaptain. I've used noonsite from time to time to access a particular blog from a long term cruiser I've corresponded with for many years. Speaking of which, I finally met up with Roger yesterday in Elizabeth City after crossing paths in Reedsville and then Deltaville and finally on the Dismal Swamp. We've crossed the Albemarle this morning and are sitting quietly in the Alligator River Marina waiting to see what tomorrow brings. Hopefully, we can get through the bridge and up into the river proper. Where are you currently? === We've been back home in SWFL for about a month. No cruising planned for a while but hopefully we'll get over to the Exumas late winter/early spring. How was the Dismal Swamp? I've always wanted to try that. What kind of minimum depths were you seeing? Are you talking about Roger from Maine? Let me know if you or Roger are going to be near SWFL and we'll figure out how to meet up somewhere. Is he the same Roger running the Q & A site? There's a good anchorage at the south end of the Alligator River just before the canal, and another good anchorage at the western end. Check on activecaptain.com for details. Keep moving south ASAP. It starts getting cold in the Carolinas this time of year. Don't ask how I know. :-) |
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On Tue, 22 Nov 2011 16:20:28 -0500, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote: "Wayne.B" wrote in message .. . Most serious cruisers have migrated off of newsgroups and onto moderated web based forums. That is regrettable in my opinion but you can't fight city hall. That said, let's start a thread here listing some of the better cruising web sites. snipped repeat of hyperlinks Thanks for the effort, perhaps some people might find them of value, but not me . . . ==== Well of course not. How is your battle with FFWC coming along? I'm sure we're all interested in progress reports on that. |
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On 22/11/2011 5:47 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Tue, 22 Nov 2011 15:17:48 -0500, wrote: I use cruisersforum, ssca (member) and activecaptain. I've used noonsite from time to time to access a particular blog from a long term cruiser I've corresponded with for many years. Speaking of which, I finally met up with Roger yesterday in Elizabeth City after crossing paths in Reedsville and then Deltaville and finally on the Dismal Swamp. We've crossed the Albemarle this morning and are sitting quietly in the Alligator River Marina waiting to see what tomorrow brings. Hopefully, we can get through the bridge and up into the river proper. Where are you currently? === We've been back home in SWFL for about a month. No cruising planned for a while but hopefully we'll get over to the Exumas late winter/early spring. How was the Dismal Swamp? I've always wanted to try that. What kind of minimum depths were you seeing? Good depths i.e. about 6 min in some places but way more in the middle in most. Locks were good. Are you talking about Roger from Maine? Let me know if you or Roger are going to be near SWFL and we'll figure out how to meet up somewhere. I think Roger is only going as far as Georgia this year. He runs a section on sailboatowners dot com which I subscribe to. Peggy Hall has a column on there also. Check it for his Dismal Swamp updates over the past couple of days for a good idea of what it's like. He's going to put in a bit about the Feeder Lake that he visited. We'll be in SE Florida, not SW depending on how you define SW. We will be visiting a friend in Sarasota at some stage and also visiting a former Commander of mine who's now an Admiral in Central Command. (I like to pretend I helped in his elevation). Then Bahamas in January. Is he the same Roger running the Q& A site? Don't think so. There's a good anchorage at the south end of the Alligator River just before the canal, and another good anchorage at the western end. Check on activecaptain.com for details. Will do - I only just started using activecaptain Keep moving south ASAP. It starts getting cold in the Carolinas this time of year. Don't ask how I know. :-) No need to tell us. We're from sunny South West Australia and getting whacked by stuff that you guys think is "normal" is not pleasant for us. |
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"Wayne.B" wrote in message
... On Tue, 22 Nov 2011 16:20:28 -0500, "Wilbur Hubbard" wrote: "Wayne.B" wrote in message . .. Most serious cruisers have migrated off of newsgroups and onto moderated web based forums. That is regrettable in my opinion but you can't fight city hall. That said, let's start a thread here listing some of the better cruising web sites. snipped repeat of hyperlinks Thanks for the effort, perhaps some people might find them of value, but not me . . . ==== Well of course not. How is your battle with FFWC coming along? I'm sure we're all interested in progress reports on that. The trial is set for Dec 2nd. I shall appraise the group as to the results of the litigation. Depending upon the demeanor of the State (if they appear overly arrogant) I plan to ask for a dismissal *with prejudice* as a means of thwarting future abuse of the statutes against boaters by the State. Wilbur Hubbard |
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Hi, Wayne, and list,
I, too, lament the web-based movement, moderated or not, of information exchange between cruisers (and, for that matter, any other subject which used to be the bailiwick of NNTP groups like this and bulletin boards before them), if for no other reason that I can't subscribe to them, as well as the bandwidth issues which face TRUE cruisers. The Cruiser_network_online is a subscription mailing list, and I'm on it (and several others, Morgan, liveaboard and others for example), hooray, but is for honest-to-God cruisers. Many of them utilize Pactor to get their mail and post/respond from far-flung corners of the world, with the "don't include this text when replying" bandwidth notification, so, for example, I don't post my logs there (regulars here know that they're long)... The forums I go to only when I either specifically am looking for something or have something to say to a larger audience, due to their difficulty in access and the time it takes to wade through the possibilities compared to this group, for example, or my subscriptions, which land in my mailbox and can be reviewed offline, and, for that matter, replied to offline, to go up on the next connection (those being the other major dissatisfactions by comparisons to the forums). I am also a member of SSCA, and so have access to their forums. Regrettably, I find that, with very few exceptions, where there is a specific section for either logs or blogs, these forums are part social media, in that they aren't really interested in anything other than chatter-depth discussions. If there is a means of subscription to these which I've missed (other than the notification of a response to a thread I've been involved in, either by origination or by contribution), I'd love to hear about it, for the reasons shown above. That said, I know of NO such forum which will allow off-line composition and placement into an outbox for later mailing, but at least I'd be able to see what I MIGHT want to take the time to go to the forum to investigate. Here's the ones I use, from time to time: http://www.anything-sailing.com/foru...g-Else-Sailing http://www.anything-sailing.com/foru...nd-Life-Aboard http://www.anything-sailing.com/foru...ons-amp-Routes http://www.cruisersforum.com/forums/f74/ - life aquatic aboard a boat http://www.cruisersforum.com/forums/f19/ - atlantic and carib http://www.cruisersforum.com/forums/f2/ - general sailing http://www.cruisersforum.com/forums/f54/ - engines http://www.cruisersforum.com/forums/f71/ - logs http://www.sailnet.com/forums/general-interest-forums/ http://www.sailnet.com/forums/gear-maintenance/ http://www.sailnet.com/forums/genera...iling-related/ http://renegade-cruisers.net/bb/viewforum.php?f=2 - pub http://renegade-cruisers.net/bb/viewforum.php?f=3 - sailing and cruising http://renegade-cruisers.net/bb/viewforum.php?f=80 - blogs http://forums.sbo.sailboatowners.com/index.php http://forums.sbo.sailboatowners.com...splay.php?f=18 - ask all sailors As I cribbed this from a prior search, not listed is Lats and Atts' very good board, sailnet (long live their prior mailing lists in our memory) and perhaps a few others I've forgotten... L8R Skip -- Morgan 461 #2 SV Flying Pig KI4MPC See our galleries at www.justpickone.org/skip/gallery ! Follow us at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/TheFlyingPigLog and/or http://groups.google.com/group/flyingpiglog "Your time is limited, so don't waste it living someone else's life. Don't be trapped by dogma - which is living with the results of other people's thinking. Don't let the noise of others' opinion drown out your own inner voice; and most important, have the courage to follow your heart and intuition. They somehow already know what you truly want to become. Everything else is secondary". - Steve Jobs |
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On Wed, 23 Nov 2011 08:39:14 -0500, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote: The trial is set for Dec 2nd. I shall appraise the group as to the results of the litigation. Apprise. Misspelling gets a pass, but not word misuse. Sailors should talk good. --Vic |
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On Wed, 23 Nov 2011 09:03:13 -0500, "Flying Pig"
wrote: Here's the ones I use, from time to time: http://www.anything-sailing.com/foru...g-Else-Sailing http://www.anything-sailing.com/foru...nd-Life-Aboard http://www.anything-sailing.com/foru...ons-amp-Routes http://www.cruisersforum.com/forums/f74/ - life aquatic aboard a boat http://www.cruisersforum.com/forums/f19/ - atlantic and carib http://www.cruisersforum.com/forums/f2/ - general sailing http://www.cruisersforum.com/forums/f54/ - engines http://www.cruisersforum.com/forums/f71/ - logs http://www.sailnet.com/forums/general-interest-forums/ http://www.sailnet.com/forums/gear-maintenance/ http://www.sailnet.com/forums/genera...iling-related/ http://renegade-cruisers.net/bb/viewforum.php?f=2 - pub http://renegade-cruisers.net/bb/viewforum.php?f=3 - sailing and cruising http://renegade-cruisers.net/bb/viewforum.php?f=80 - blogs http://forums.sbo.sailboatowners.com/index.php http://forums.sbo.sailboatowners.com...splay.php?f=18 - ask all sailors ======== Impressive list Skip, thanks. Are we any closer to hearing splashing noises from the direction of Ft Pierce? |
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"Wayne.B" wrote in message
... Impressive list Skip, thanks. Are we any closer to hearing splashing noises from the direction of Ft Pierce? Yes, but still no end date. We're expecting some time in Janury. We will be taking 2-3 weeks to make the trek north again at yet another baby's birth (this time it's my daughter's) and to allow Lydia to finally catch up with my kids, the last several years' having been so her-kid centric that she didn't take any time to visit with them when we came ashore - and is now regretting it, so that will make our departure a bit less speedy than we might have otherwise wished, but also making us very grateful to have been stateside for all that's happened while we've been on the ground. The final fairing is coming along very nicely, if slowly. We've found another helper who is very skilled at what he does, having worked for a boatbuilder for several years here in FTP, and we've turned that part over to him while we do other things. ETD on that is a couple of weeks or so, after which we'll put on copious barrier coat, followed by bottom paint. In the meantime, we have a new 73# Rocna anchor on the way (I'll have a for-sale on my 75# CQR knockoff here shortly, once I get the pictures up and my spiel written), which will involve some modification (extra parts, and better end result, to boot) of our newly brilliant anchor roller system, due to the roll bar on the Rocna otherwise impacting our cage, plus running backstays for the staysail which never had any, this week. I'm also sourcing, thence to install, the various other things (like a new VHF antenna for the arch, hardware for the new cockpit table, 3/8 teak-and-holly to replace the forward-head-area cutouts due to rot [forward shower leak remediation in the galleries], casting of new chocks, and a few other things) which need to be done before we leave :{)) L8R Skip and crew -- Morgan 461 #2 SV Flying Pig KI4MPC See our galleries at www.justpickone.org/skip/gallery ! Follow us at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/TheFlyingPigLog and/or http://groups.google.com/group/flyingpiglog "And then again, when you sit at the helm of your little ship on a clear night, and gaze at the countless stars overhead, and realize that you are quite alone on a wide, wide sea, it is apt to occur to you that in the general scheme of things you are merely an insignificant speck on the surface of the ocean; and are not nearly so important or as self-sufficient as you thought you were. Which is an exceedingly wholesome thought, and one that may effect a permanent change in your deportment that will be greatly appreciated by your friends."- James S. Pitkin |
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On Nov 24, 6:19*am, "Flying Pig" wrote:
In the meantime, we have a new 73# Rocna anchor on the way (I'll have a for-sale on my 75# CQR knockoff here shortly, once I get the pictures up and I'm hoping you saw the recall notice on some Rocna anchors. The issue - as I understood it - was that a manufacturer used a cheap steel in some Rocnas, to the point that their strength was compromised. I think ownership of the brand has changed hands. So you may need to check who made your Rocna and when. Cheers Bil |
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On 23/11/2011 3:53 PM, Bil wrote:
On Nov 24, 6:19 am, "Flying wrote: In the meantime, we have a new 73# Rocna anchor on the way (I'll have a for-sale on my 75# CQR knockoff here shortly, once I get the pictures up and I'm hoping you saw the recall notice on some Rocna anchors. The issue - as I understood it - was that a manufacturer used a cheap steel in some Rocnas, to the point that their strength was compromised. I think ownership of the brand has changed hands. So you may need to check who made your Rocna and when. Cheers Bil I don't think the change of ownership made any difference. Now Canadian but I think they were in deception mode, too. Chinese crap steel - owners tried to pretend it happened behind their backs but it seems not. I would assume it's been stopped by now? |
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On Nov 22, 10:59*am, Wayne.B wrote:
Most serious cruisers have migrated off of newsgroups and onto moderated web based forums. * That is regrettable in my opinion but you can't fight city hall. * That said, let's start a thread here listing some of the better cruising web sites. I'll start with some that I've found: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Cruisers_Network_Online/ http://www.cruisersforum.com/ http://cruisersnet.net/ http://www.trawlercrawler.net/ http://ssca.org/cgi-bin/pagegen.pl?pg=home&title=Home (membership required) http://www.noonsite.com/ http://www.mtoa.net/ https://activecaptain.com/ (Interactive Cruising Guide Book - good online charts and local knowledge) A word to the wise: *None of these groups tolerate asshats, personal insults or political discussion. *Don't even think about it. Seeing I'm not a cruiser, but a runabout kinda guy I usually hit up http://forums.iboats.com/forum.php I like to watch the rebuilds and restorations. A lot of useful stuff there. Same way with http://www.thehulltruth.com/ I've attended some other boating forums but they were mostly small communique's between friends as were slow moving. So, those are about the only two that i know of. Anybody got any suggestions on a site dedicated to cruising the Ohio, Cumberland, Mississippi and other various mid-west rivers? I'd appreciate it. I can't do the whole inner coastal, but it would be nice to do the Ohio/ Ky Lake cruise next year. god tips are always appreciated. |
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Hi, all,
Changing the title so this thread doesn't ENTIRELY go off the rails... Rocna put out a recall notice which was complete in its explanation of the shank difficulties alleged/alluded to by another poster here. In my mind, though I'll not be affected by it, they have properly and adequately dealt with the issue. Look it up, if you're concerned. I've resolved any potential concern for myself (and it's not my job to educate you or quash rumors for any concerns or issues you may have) and the batch of mild steel which mistakenly made it into some anchors is no longer an issue - certainly, to me. Thanks for the heads-up. If your Rocna is several years old, you would do well to look up the document and exercise the very generous provisions therein for yourself. L8R Skip -- Morgan 461 #2 SV Flying Pig KI4MPC See our galleries at www.justpickone.org/skip/gallery ! Follow us at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/TheFlyingPigLog and/or http://groups.google.com/group/flyingpiglog "Your time is limited, so don't waste it living someone else's life. Don't be trapped by dogma - which is living with the results of other people's thinking. Don't let the noise of others' opinion drown out your own inner voice; and most important, have the courage to follow your heart and intuition. They somehow already know what you truly want to become. Everything else is secondary". - Steve Jobs |
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On Nov 23, 8:27*pm, "Flying Pig" wrote:
Hi, all, Changing the title so this thread doesn't ENTIRELY go off the rails... Rocna put out a recall notice which was complete in its explanation of the shank difficulties alleged/alluded to by another poster here. *In my mind, though I'll not be affected by it, they have properly and adequately dealt with the issue. Look it up, if you're concerned. *I've resolved any potential concern for myself (and it's not my job to educate you or quash rumors for any concerns or issues you may have) and the batch of mild steel which mistakenly made it into some anchors is no longer an issue - certainly, to me. Thanks for the heads-up. *If your Rocna is several years old, you would do well to look up the document and exercise the very generous provisions therein for yourself. L8R Skip -- Morgan 461 #2 SV Flying Pig KI4MPC See our galleries atwww.justpickone.org/skip/gallery! Follow us athttp://groups.yahoo.com/group/TheFlyingPigLog and/orhttp://groups.google.com/group/flyingpiglog "Your time is limited, so don't waste it living someone else's life. Don't be trapped by dogma - which is living with the results of other people's thinking. Don't let the noise of others' opinion drown out your own inner voice; and most important, have the courage to follow your heart and intuition. They somehow already know what you truly want to become. Everything else is secondary". - Steve Jobs Wow. And I thought an anchor was a cement block tied to a nylon rope. i guess I need to expand my horizons .... ?;^ ) |
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On Wed, 23 Nov 2011 19:09:15 -0800 (PST), Tim
wrote: Wow. And I thought an anchor was a cement block tied to a nylon rope. i guess I need to expand my horizons .... ==== It's probably better to take a bunch of old burned out alternators and tie them together. :-) |
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On Nov 23, 10:57*pm, Wayne.B wrote:
On Wed, 23 Nov 2011 19:09:15 -0800 (PST), Tim wrote: Wow. And I thought an anchor was a cement block tied to a nylon rope. i guess I need to expand my horizons .... ==== It's probably better to take a bunch of old burned out alternators and tie them together. * *:-) I'd think that heavy diesel starters work better, Wayne.... ?8^ 0 |
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On Wed, 23 Nov 2011 08:39:14 -0500, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote: The trial is set for Dec 2nd. I shall appraise the group as to the results of the litigation. === So how did things go? |
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On Sat, 03 Dec 2011 11:52:06 -0500, WaIIy wrote:
On Fri, 02 Dec 2011 22:59:33 -0500, Wayne.B wrote: On Wed, 23 Nov 2011 08:39:14 -0500, "Wilbur Hubbard" wrote: The trial is set for Dec 2nd. I shall appraise the group as to the results of the litigation. === So how did things go? Maybe he doesn't have computer access from the chain gang. Or maybe too busy working on his appeal. --Vic |
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"Wayne.B" wrote in message
... On Wed, 23 Nov 2011 08:39:14 -0500, "Wilbur Hubbard" wrote: The trial is set for Dec 2nd. I shall appraise the group as to the results of the litigation. === So how did things go? NOT GUILTY!!!! I'm going to get a transcript from the clerk of the court and plan to post it soon. The FWC came to court and said they had charged me under the wrong paragraph. Instead of paragraph (1) they wanted to change it to paragraph (2) the one that gives the requirements for a houseboat. The judge asked me if I'd like a continuance. I said I was prepared to defend against paragraph (2) charges. I finally convinced the court that my vessel did not meet the statutory definition of houseboat {paragraph (2)} after considerable wrangling. The judge was obviously on the side of the state as he even had somebody bring him a dictionary so he could look up the word, "preclusion". Then he tried to construe the meaning of "transportation" as something more complicated than just going out for a day sail or a week-end sail. Then they had the nerve to go back to paragraph (1) even though the officer said he had listed it wrong on the statute and meant paragraph (2). The long and short of it was that I provided enough evidence that the judge was forced to come back with a not guilty verdict. He even had the nerve to say something along the lines of, "Officer________, I don't like it and I'm sure you don't like it but Mr. Hubbard is in compliance with the statutes." Then he had the nerve to suggest that perhaps the FWC should work on getting paragraph (2) changed to eliminate the second clause that talks about preclusionary use. IOW the FWC wants to define a houseboat as any vessel on which somebody lives more than 21 days in a month's period. They are going to have little joy with this as federal law defines a vessel and has only allowed Florida to regulate houseboats because the definition of a houseboat is NOT that of a vessel as a houseboat has conditions that preclude it's use as transportation. The FWS and courts are against boaters. It's patently obvious to this sailor. Will be getting a copy of the trial transcript and will post it soon as it might be fascinating to interested boaters. Wilbur Hubbard |
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"WaIIy" wrote in message
... On Fri, 02 Dec 2011 22:59:33 -0500, Wayne.B wrote: On Wed, 23 Nov 2011 08:39:14 -0500, "Wilbur Hubbard" wrote: The trial is set for Dec 2nd. I shall appraise the group as to the results of the litigation. === So how did things go? Maybe he doesn't have computer access from the chain gang. Oh ye of little faith! Wilbur Hubbard |
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"Vic Smith" wrote in message
... On Sat, 03 Dec 2011 11:52:06 -0500, WaIIy wrote: On Fri, 02 Dec 2011 22:59:33 -0500, Wayne.B wrote: On Wed, 23 Nov 2011 08:39:14 -0500, "Wilbur Hubbard" wrote: The trial is set for Dec 2nd. I shall appraise the group as to the results of the litigation. === So how did things go? Maybe he doesn't have computer access from the chain gang. Or maybe too busy working on his appeal. --Vic Oh ye of little faith. When I claim to be brilliant you'd best believe it, sir. Pro se representation works just fine and doesn't cost a dime if one has a brilliant legal mind - actually, mostly a brilliant mind that understands the English language and word definitions and knows how laws are written from general to specific. It's a matter of using logic as much as anything else. A judge can be biased but even the most biased of judges cannot argue against logic when confronted with it in the context of statutes. Wilbur Hubbard Wilbur Hubbard |
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what is the actual text of the two provisions of fla law in question? what is the federal legislation or regulation or caselaw that you say defines a vessel in a way you apparently imply you would argue preempts state law? :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: On Sat, 3 Dec 2011 14:22:24 -0500, "Wilbur Hubbard" wrote: "Wayne.B" wrote in message .. . On Wed, 23 Nov 2011 08:39:14 -0500, "Wilbur Hubbard" wrote: The trial is set for Dec 2nd. I shall appraise the group as to the results of the litigation. === So how did things go? NOT GUILTY!!!! I'm going to get a transcript from the clerk of the court and plan to post it soon. The FWC came to court and said they had charged me under the wrong paragraph. Instead of paragraph (1) they wanted to change it to paragraph (2) the one that gives the requirements for a houseboat. The judge asked me if I'd like a continuance. I said I was prepared to defend against paragraph (2) charges. I finally convinced the court that my vessel did not meet the statutory definition of houseboat {paragraph (2)} after considerable wrangling. The judge was obviously on the side of the state as he even had somebody bring him a dictionary so he could look up the word, "preclusion". Then he tried to construe the meaning of "transportation" as something more complicated than just going out for a day sail or a week-end sail. Then they had the nerve to go back to paragraph (1) even though the officer said he had listed it wrong on the statute and meant paragraph (2). The long and short of it was that I provided enough evidence that the judge was forced to come back with a not guilty verdict. He even had the nerve to say something along the lines of, "Officer________, I don't like it and I'm sure you don't like it but Mr. Hubbard is in compliance with the statutes." Then he had the nerve to suggest that perhaps the FWC should work on getting paragraph (2) changed to eliminate the second clause that talks about preclusionary use. IOW the FWC wants to define a houseboat as any vessel on which somebody lives more than 21 days in a month's period. They are going to have little joy with this as federal law defines a vessel and has only allowed Florida to regulate houseboats because the definition of a houseboat is NOT that of a vessel as a houseboat has conditions that preclude it's use as transportation. The FWS and courts are against boaters. It's patently obvious to this sailor. Will be getting a copy of the trial transcript and will post it soon as it might be fascinating to interested boaters. Wilbur Hubbard |
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"james ferraday" wrote in message
... what is the actual text of the two provisions of fla law in question? what is the federal legislation or regulation or caselaw that you say defines a vessel in a way you apparently imply you would argue preempts state law? I don't reply to top-posters other than to tell them to stop it. It's rude and not in compliance with accepted Usenet etiquette. Wilbur Hubbard |
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On Sat, 3 Dec 2011 14:22:24 -0500, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote: Congratulations. FWC has been over stepping for a long time. Will be getting a copy of the trial transcript and will post it soon as it might be fascinating to interested boaters. Please do, along with the docket #, etc. |
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"Wayne.B" wrote in message
... On Sat, 3 Dec 2011 14:22:24 -0500, "Wilbur Hubbard" wrote: Congratulations. FWC has been over stepping for a long time. Will be getting a copy of the trial transcript and will post it soon as it might be fascinating to interested boaters. Please do, along with the docket #, etc. Thanks! I trust the docket #, case # etc. will be on the official court transcript. What amazes me is the speed at which the clerk of the court can transcribe. I'll go to the clerk's office early this week and request a copy of the transcript. I'm hoping it will be available almost immediately but I might have to wait for it to be mailed to me. . . Wilbur Hubbard |
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On Sat, 3 Dec 2011 15:02:00 -0500, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote: "Vic Smith" wrote in message .. . On Sat, 03 Dec 2011 11:52:06 -0500, WaIIy wrote: On Fri, 02 Dec 2011 22:59:33 -0500, Wayne.B wrote: On Wed, 23 Nov 2011 08:39:14 -0500, "Wilbur Hubbard" wrote: The trial is set for Dec 2nd. I shall appraise the group as to the results of the litigation. === So how did things go? Maybe he doesn't have computer access from the chain gang. Or maybe too busy working on his appeal. --Vic Oh ye of little faith. When I claim to be brilliant you'd best believe it, sir. Pro se representation works just fine and doesn't cost a dime if one has a brilliant legal mind - actually, mostly a brilliant mind that understands the English language and word definitions and knows how laws are written from general to specific. It's a matter of using logic as much as anything else. A judge can be biased but even the most biased of judges cannot argue against logic when confronted with it in the context of statutes. Wilbur Hubbard Good for you. Seemed bogus, and you didn't cave. --Vic |
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"Wilbur Hubbard" wrote:
I don't reply to top-posters other than to tell them to stop it. It's rude and not in compliance with accepted Usenet etiquette. A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing on usenet and in email? -mhd |
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On 2011-12-03, Wayne.B wrote:
On Sat, 3 Dec 2011 14:22:24 -0500, "Wilbur Hubbard" wrote: Congratulations. FWC has been over stepping for a long time. Will be getting a copy of the trial transcript and will post it soon as it might be fascinating to interested boaters. Please do, along with the docket #, etc. For once it might be worth letting him out of the kill file. Justin. |
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"-mhd" wrote in message
... "Wilbur Hubbard" wrote: I don't reply to top-posters other than to tell them to stop it. It's rude and not in compliance with accepted Usenet etiquette. A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing on usenet and in email? Right on! And it becomes more and more confusing as the thread lengthens .. . Wilbur Hubbard |
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