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Refrigerator:
Skip, Line coming out of BD50 compressor’s side is high pressure line, in warm seawater it would be the one that gets the hottest and may be why O ring failed in it. Hopefully compressor was not overheated as well. When failed O ring was removed I hope all pieces were accounted for. As you know your system has no filter or screen protecting expansion capillary tube inlet orifice in high pressure liquid side of system. Yes, the single service connection on top of compressor is where vacuum dehydration pump and recharge with 134a is accomplished. Rube Goldberg would give you an A+ for trying to complicate a simple process. Only time will tell if you dehydrated deep and long enough to be successful. On your system successful performance can only be when refrigerant volume and keel cooler condenser cooling are in balance as seawater temperatures and compressor speeds change. |
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Richard Kollmann" Newsgroups: rec.boats.cruising Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2011 9:28 AM Subject: Skip, this may help with refrigerator problem. Refrigerator: Skip, Line coming out of BD50 compressor’s side is high pressure line, in warm seawater it would be the one that gets the hottest and may be why O ring failed in it. Hopefully compressor was not overheated as well. When failed O ring was removed I hope all pieces were accounted for. As you know your system has no filter or screen protecting expansion capillary tube inlet orifice in high pressure liquid side of system. The O-ring came out nicely - just flat! (well, actually, on close review, a truncated right-angle cone ring) - no scars, and a brilliant metal where the new one landed immediately and was immediately inserted and tightened. Yes, the single service connection on top of compressor is where vacuum dehydration pump and recharge with 134a is accomplished. Rube Goldberg would give you an A+ for trying to complicate a simple process. :{)) When my vendor and Veco kept telling me that I should have a low-side tap, foolishly, I believed them. Reviewing the manual, and, of course referring to your earlier helpful comments, I stopped worrying about that. As to Rube Goldberg, if I'd known that the vacuum was an R12 fitting, I could have been sucking away much earlier. Getting the gas to the system would still have taken a bit longer due to the hens-teeth nature of the 134aF/12M fitting (everyone has the reverse). However, I'll acquire my own vacuum pump shortly, which will eliminate that problem, and we'll be good to go with my 134-only gauge set and can adapter/R12 hose. Only time will tell if you dehydrated deep and long enough to be successful. On your system successful performance can only be when refrigerant volume and keel cooler condenser cooling are in balance as seawater temperatures and compressor speeds change. Agreed. However, I suspect that a previously closed (and remaining closed due to the quick-connects) system, evacuated at 6cfm for 14 or whatever larger number of hours it was, likely pulled it about as far and dry as it could get absent some industrial-grade sucker. As I write, all the door repairs/improvements are finished, and, 12 hours into an 83° 10CF (total) box' cooling, I'm at 10.9 and 32.3 in the freezer and reefer, respectively, and no ice on the return line. I've left the charge line/can attached just in case I'm not absolutely perfectly charged, but the trial run suggests it's right on. I'll make that determination after a while of running at normal cycling vs full-time pull-down. My vendor, who'd been watching from the sidelines (the Boy Scout program in the Keys, where he's a charter captain in those months the program operates), including some emailed pix of what was going on, wrote after my last to say: "Congrats, You need to fill out a job app. for service technician now when you're ready to come out of retirement." He'd offered me a job when he came to look at the boat in Keys Boat Works just after the wreck, too; apparently, following your suggestions about box-building, including the doors (with carefully calculated swing radii to make sure of the angle I'd have to cut into them to allow opening, with all that depth) impressed him :{)) And, to my previous, my presumption had been that the circulating fan had been running. Turns out not so, as my reed switch had failed somewhere along the line, discovered during the redo of the power line to the LED cluster which comes on when the door's opened at the same time the fan switches off, and the reverse when closed. So, yesterday, before reassembly, I ordered new (one for spare) NO/NC switches, and put in a new fan, along with repairing the broken line on the LED cluster for the lighting. Once the switch arrives, it will be a 10-minute job to install it. Due to the now-constant 90+ temps here, I've also rigged something similar to, but much improved over, the setup to keep the keel cooler wet which I did in St. Pete during our wreck rehab. In our prior trial, the water running off it got cooler as it stabilized; I assume that will assist in my overall efforts at having cold beer for Lydia and coke for me, along with the first-in-many-days, cold eggs to break for our breakfast that I enjoyed feeling as I picked them up over the bowl this morning :{)) I believe this concludes all but chatter on this thread :{)) L8R Skip and crew, back to the old grind (first step to polish up the new weld/SS installation on the bow roller/cage system) -- Morgan 461 #2 SV Flying Pig KI4MPC See our galleries at www.justpickone.org/skip/gallery ! Follow us at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/TheFlyingPigLog and/or http://groups.google.com/group/flyingpiglog "Believe me, my young friend, there is *nothing*-absolutely nothing-half so much worth doing as simply messing, messing-about-in-boats; messing about in boats-or *with* boats. In or out of 'em, it doesn't matter. Nothing seems really to matter, that's the charm of it. 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"Flying Pig" wrote in message
... big trim Due to the now-constant 90+ temps here, I've also rigged something similar to, but much improved over, the setup to keep the keel cooler wet which I did in St. Pete during our wreck rehab. In our prior trial, the water running off it got cooler as it stabilized; I assume that will assist in my overall efforts at having cold beer for Lydia and coke for me, along with the first-in-many-days, cold eggs to break for our breakfast that I enjoyed feeling as I picked them up over the bowl this morning :{)) That was a smart move, Skippy. Keeping the condenser water-cooled is how it is intended to operate. Having no such method of cooling and relying on air temperatures alone causes they system to operate harder, longer and with more stress on all components. The excess heat was probably responsible for the failed o-ring. "Cold beer for Lydia and a coke for me"????? C'mon, Skippy, man up and have a beer. Wilbur Hubbard |
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