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On Mon, 1 Aug 2011 15:28:04 -0400, "Flying Pig"
wrote:

Do a Google search on "r134a can tap".

You can buy them anywhere.


Can taps are easy. Making them go on a gauge set, not so much :{))

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I have two different can taps and both attach easily to my gauge set.

Do you have a standard 3 hose set?

Refrigeration discussion in Shifting sands
 

Hi, and thanks to Wayne and Vic for enlightening me on stand-alone taps. I
can buy them at anywhere from 6 to 20 bux.

I've cc'd this to the refrigeration discussion, as it's a bit afield from
sanding :{))

I do still have a problem about feeding the gauge set with it, as I have
only 3 hoses with my set; indeed, connecting to the second end of the center
line was my challenge. (The center has two males, one down, one out.)

The connections for the high and low pressure lines have a common air hose
connector - pull to allow/release ring - and a valve on them as well as on
the gauges, a curiosity to me as to why that rather than a direct hose
connection - but have the male open end on the hose-connect assembly/handle.
All three hoses are open on one end, and valve depressor on the other.

It was my recollection (it's been a while since I had to use one) that the
refill kits one buys have a made-up fitting at the can end, not a screw-off,
so I didn't twig to the possibility of a tap with just a male fitting coming
out.

I may have to buy a 4th hose (?) to make it work, or an adapter such as
Neal's picture showed, however, without extra hardware left somewhere...

As to the gas, it takes all of 6 ounces to fully charge our system, so
hunting for bargains on cans isn't a high priority :{)) When we bought our
car here and the AC failed after some work on other stuff, the mechanic who
screwed it up claimed he'd put gauges on it and found no pressure (instead,
the failure of the AC to run was his neglect of not putting on the high-temp
alarm connection back on when he did some other work); I bought a can with a
trigger and gauge; it read 150# (and was able to return it immediately from
outside AutoZone where I'd tested it), so I knew he was full of ****. As to
the WalMart can lead Neal provided, it has oil, and Danfoss is adamant about
putting in nothing other than straight gas, so I'd get the one without, if I
went that route for charging (still have the challenge of attaching the
pop-on end, of course; perhaps I'd have to buy an adapter such as his boat
pic showed for the other end of the ell-connection on the gauges - anyone
have a name for that fitting? It would be one which screws onto a 134a tap,
not a standard R12 [or, at least, the gauges suggest it's only for 134a, so
I presume there's a difference]).

Thanks again to all respondents. Tackling the handle seating in the freezer
lid today - once again, it broke out, as there isn't enough wood at the lip
to support the stress it endures, and the screws have stripped out more than
once, the latest before the current having been resolved by using 5-minute
double-tube syringe-type epoxy and shaping it with a chisel as it started to
set. I'm thinking of using our fairing compound this time (epoxy 2-part
mixup), as it will start setting at 4 hours, and be permanent in a day. When
it's green, it works easily, but is rock hard in the end; I'd drill and tap,
instead of using wood screws as in the priors. The 5-minute stuff wasn't
rock hard when I went to remove the broken bits...

Thanks for all the chime-ins. Even in this relatively limited forum (which
I vastly prefer as it's NNTP based rather than web interface), I get what I
come for!

L8R

Skip and crew

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Shifting sands
 

On Jul 29, 5:39*am, "Flying Pig" wrote:
Hi, Bruce, and other readers worldwide (I wonder how many there actually are
besides the anonymous knee-jerk Neal-bashers, "Wilbur", Cavelamb, you and a
couple of others - even "Bob" hasn't fired a shot in a while, and Roger's
off cruising - a quickie "here I am" response would shed some light on the
question...),


HOpe youre having fun Skip....... two comments.

one, 60 grt on stainless??? Im assuming your grinding welds and not
attempting to polish rust.. wtf?!?! Damn you must have some serious
corrsion ie ****ty grade SS.

two, there are a ton of other woods out there you can get here in the
usa that will work/last as good as teak. try Pacific Yew Wood or maybe
Black Locust. In the PNW they are lopping 100 year old trees down
because the Black Locus boring Beattle is munching them. Loads of logs
availible for the taking.

Old growth doug fir is excelelnt. Ya worried about warping??? have a
doormaker make a custom solid lam door with a quarter inch veener
black walnut.... jsut because its a boat dont mean its anything
fancier than a land mansion......

hell the house I have now has 130 year old doug fir ballon framing
held togehter with square nails..... zero rot. the grain is as tight
as the pages on an unabridged dictionary.... 1000 year old trees make
good boat building wood. Yes you can still get it easily at a fair
price. just gota know where to look.

SKip P L E A S E ....... ! The Pig aint nothin fancy.... its a ****ing
boat!

I hope this finds you well its been sometimes since I had a chance to
say helloo. See you on the water :)

Bob

Shifting sands
 

Hi, Bob,

"Bob" wrote in message
...

HOpe youre having fun Skip....... two comments.

one, 60 grt on stainless??? Im assuming your grinding welds and not
attempting to polish rust.. wtf?!?! Damn you must have some serious
corrsion ie ****ty grade SS.

********
Sorry, I miswrote. Start with 80, and work down (well, up). No rust - cut
all that off -just leftovers from barely brushed mill finish which is now
brilliant
*********

two, there are a ton of other woods out there you can get here in the
usa that will work/last as good as teak. try Pacific Yew Wood or maybe
Black Locust. In the PNW they are lopping 100 year old trees down
because the Black Locus boring Beattle is munching them. Loads of logs
availible for the taking.

*********
Hm. How would I get it here on the east coast?
*********

Old growth doug fir is excelelnt. Ya worried about warping??? have a
doormaker make a custom solid lam door with a quarter inch veener
black walnut.... jsut because its a boat dont mean its anything
fancier than a land mansion......

hell the house I have now has 130 year old doug fir ballon framing
held togehter with square nails..... zero rot. the grain is as tight
as the pages on an unabridged dictionary.... 1000 year old trees make
good boat building wood. Yes you can still get it easily at a fair
price. just gota know where to look.

************
Heh. The house I grew up in will be 100 years old in a couple of years.
The 2x were just that, full dimension, and made from yellow pine.

In 62, when there was some remodeling, the contractors broke blade after
blade trying to cut the stuff. Aged yellow pine is about like iron.

So, I'm not surprised. Getting that aged (or original growth) wood is a bit
challenging...
*************

SKip P L E A S E ....... ! The Pig aint nothin fancy.... its a ****ing
boat!

**********
The Flying Pig is talented, but not THAT talented!
**********

I hope this finds you well its been sometimes since I had a chance to
say helloo. See you on the water :)

Bob

********
Yes, we are well, if hot. Seen in the moved thread, the refrigeration is
going well, as is the taping for the new boot stripe and reveal line (used a
laser to keep it straight, a vast improvement over our eyeball of 4 years
ago).

See you on the water if you ever get to this side of the world!

L8R

Skip


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