"Bruce" wrote in message
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On Wed, 2 Feb 2011 14:17:26 -0500, "Wilbur Hubbard"
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Cruising is cruising. It is not defined by length of passage or time at
anchor. I think you are confusing cruising with voyaging. Probably because
you aren't intimately familiar with either. LOL!

Goodness, a Sunday ride around the harbor and you call it "cruising"?
What is next? Peddling a Swan Boat on the lake in the park to simulate
a world cruise?

You're just jealous because you were stuck at the dock ALL weekend. Too much
trouble to uplug all the cords and unscrew all the hoses and untie all the
dock lines, etc.


Sounds like a voyage to me. . . Voyaging is going from a to b to c to d,
etc. Cruising is more often going from a to b to a, etc.

You are misquoting Lynn Pardey, who was making the point that The
Pardeys are different from other people - THEY make VOYAGES, while the
hoi polloi only cru(i)se.

I'm neither quoting nor misquoting anybody. I speak for myself in case you
haven't noticed.


A Cruise made by a personal friend with his 36 ft. steel hull sloop,
over the past few years.

That's a voyage, PUTZ!

Well, Willie-boy, you are, of course, are quite capable of calling a
Spade a Diamond, but the people that actually do it call it
"cruising".

If they call voyaging cruising then they are just plain ignorant. It's as
simple as that.


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Sorry Willie-boy, Got a wife, kids and grand kids and I stay in
Thailand because I like it..... Please note that this little,
backward, 3rd world, country, is cheaper to live in, has equal or
perhaps better medical care, and doesn't cancel my licenses....


Like it as in too old and feeble to go anyplace else. As for cancelling your
licenses, it's obvious you have no USCG licenses as where you happen to live
has no bearing on rules that apply to Merchant Mariner documents issued in
the United States of America.


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Finally, you said it right. "A real voyage." Hey, I never claimed to be a
voyager as I've always said that crap is boring beyond belief and an
undesirable way to sail. The challenge of sailing is not isolation
thousands
of miles from civilization but, rather, sailing along the fringes of
civililzation taking and leaving it as is one's heartfelt desire. It's not
being controlled and harassed by foreign bureaucrats and their dumb
restrictions, graft and corruption.

Goodness... the challenge of sailing. What challenge is that? You mean
that you forgot to turn on the GPS and are lost? Or that the wind got
up to 15 MPH and you had to run for shelter?


Of, course you wouldn't know anything about the challenge of sailing having
been stuck at the docks for 30-some-odd years.



You certainly change your tune, don't you. Only a few messages ago you
were bemoaning the fact that the US Government had cancelled your
license. The Thais haven't cancelled mine... I made my annual trip to
the Thai Immigrations to renew my resident visa and was in and out in
less then an hour (including time for a doughnut and coffee). Handed
over the required documents, the lady officer smiled and said have a
nice day. If that is the "harassed" that you are talking about then I
might point out that it is far nicer treatment then one receives at
the US Embassy.


Duh! I never said anything about the government 'cancelling' my license. I
only stated that the government has added a redundant TWIC card they say is
required for the license to be used for payments received. I only said they
reneged on a contract by doing so. Try reading with comprehension for once.

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I don't read the 'tales of inept woe' magazines any more. I've had my fill
of them since they regularly portray sailing as some bumbleing cluster****
as the norm. Take Joe, for example. His tale of ineptitude and woe is
exactly the thing one would see in the sailing magazines. And, NEVER would
there be one word about WHY the ineptitude caused the entire embarrassing
and unnecessary scenario.

Willie-boy your so called "expertise" is derived from reading books
and your activities, as you have reported here, are on the level of
that neophyte.


Says the has-been while sitting for thirty-some-odd years at the Thailand
docks.


Joe, to use your example, actually did something, he made a trip
somewhere. Yes he had his problems but as you weren't there you really
don't know a damned thing about any of the details or why anything
happened, so your comments about "ineptitude" are just the
blathering's of a totally uninformed spectator. You, on the other hand
made a trip out into the bay and, as reported, anchored overnight.


Joe did something alright. He embarrassed the hell out of any
self-respecting seaman what with his bragging all the time how great a
sailor he was and then being proven totally inept by a little old predicted
cold front. Duh! How moronic is THAT?

Try to get something straight. A trip out in the Bay and anchored overnight
and a successful return with no problems is a successful cruise. On the
other hand a trip to no matter where that ends in a sunken boat is a
FAILURE. Try to get it through your thick skull that trying does not mean
suceeding. If that were so then one would have to say the space shuttle
Challenger when it blew up was a success.
Sure, the goal was lofty. Way lofty. That doesn't make the failure a
success. Lose your faulty liberal thinking or you will never sound rational.

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If I have an overheated imagination lately it's probably because of
JessicaB. That girl is about as perfect as any I've run across in decades.
She has little or no trouble seeing you pretenders for what you are. That
alone makes her highly discriminating and ultimately desirable. If only I
were about 25-30 years younger I'd have to seriously pursue her.

Twist and turn some more. I said "...what a sailing life style is all
about as apposed to your overheated imagination" obviously referring
to your imagined sailing experience. You have no answer to my
statement so, in order to attempt to save face, you try an end-run
around the subject and start to talk about some woman who you've never
met and know very little about..

Negative I was just trying to point out a very obvious difference between
you and me. I like real women - not ladyboys. LOL!


Wilbur Hubbard