On Tue, 25 Jan 2011 14:36:52 -0500, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote:

"Jessica B" wrote in message
.. .
snipped some

I can't help loving your sensible attitude.

Thanks! I've been accused of that before.

You're a rare type these days. . .

Well, thanks! Actually, I have some friends who are pretty sensible.
They can't believe I work for the city.


You are 100% correct. Some of these lubbers don't know what sailing's all
about, even when they've abused (as opposed to used) a sailboat for years.
Some, like those who carry shoreside-type washer/driers and run them when
sailing (or when anchored) are just plain pathetic.

Seems like you couldn't do much if it's running either... just sit
there an listen to the noise. Gross. What's the point.

I guess the point is these lubbers who pretend to be sailors are actually
comforted by having familiar household appliances running. I suppose it
relieves the tension the feel on a boat so they use it as a security blanket
of sorts.

I don't even like to listen to the TV... maybe some football or
baseball at a friend's place.

I don't know if you've spent any time in or around boats but very ludicrous
is when so-called sailors become all insecure in any kind of moderate to
heavy winds so what do they do? They start up the diesel and keep it running
on 'standby'. Talk about Binky city. LOL!

Not really a lot. It's pretty light wind down this way, but I don't
think the boats around here go out much. Every time I visit a marina,
just about every boat is at the dock. The big ones never seem to
leave.. mostly smaller ones who look like they know what they're
doing.

When sailing one needs minimal clothing. To wash that clothing, when
necessary, all that's needed is a bucket full of salt water, a good
detergent that bubbles up in salt water and bleach. Hand scrubbing some
shorts and t-shirts takes little time and one hand-rinse with fresh water
will rid them of salt residue so they dry properly. Drying them in the
wind
and sun takes less than a half hour.

Well, I guess that depends on the temperature. I'd want layers if
things were cold, but in warm weather, just shorts and a t top. Do you
make your guests wear shoes? My friend told me he does so nobody
breaks toes. I hate wearing shoes if I don't have to. Sorry if that
bursts your bubble, but I'm not a high-heels sort of person. I mean I
can, but I just don't.

I suppose I'm spoiled here in southern Florida. It gets a little chilly from
time to time in the winter but most of the year it's shorts, sandals and
t-shirt time. Shoes are for the land. I don't allow cigarette smoking aboard
nor do I allow shoes worn. Nothing beats bare feet. If one is so clumsy that
they stub a toe then I say, "TOUGH." So no bubble busted. Actually any
enclosed footwear is bad for the feet. Makes a great environment for smelly
bacteria and hungry fungus.

I hate to wear closed shoes if I don't have to... I have to at work. a
nice outfit because I have deal with the public when I travel around.

Instead, some so-called sailors load their boats up with all sorts of
lubberly crap that requires lubberly amount of energy and I'm convinced
they
do so because they really are AFRAID to sail and live the sailing life so
they sail a house, apartment or condo instead.

I wouldn't mind this sort of stupidity except for the fact that it spreads
out from their boats like a giant sewage slick. The noise of generators
24/7
to run all this crap impinges upon the peace, quiet and clean air of
anchorages everywhere. And, these fools actually think they are sailors.
They think they are cool and they actually brag about their selfish and
anti-social activities on Usenet.

Yeah, yeah! That's what I was thinking... all that noise. I sure as
heck don't want to listen to something running while I'm sipping my
daiquiri.

You are so well-grounded. Why can't everybody be a little less selfish and a
little more concerned about peace and quiet - especially in an anchorage.
Are they so stupid and/or rude that they think their individual noise has
greater rights than others peace and quiet. Just who are these people who
are so self-centered and arrogant? Not only do they make noise but they
pollute the atmosphere doing it. Any boat downwind from a diesel motor
running will be forced to breathe dangerous and obnoxious fumes. How rude is
THAT?

It's got to be the worst smell there is. I almost puked the last time
I smelled it.

Your sipping a daiquiri bothers nobody at all while making noise and running
smelly generators bothers EVERYBODY. The really sad thing is real sailors
don't do that kind of crap - it's just the pretenders doing it and ruining
an anchorage for everybody. I just wish these cretins would buy an RV and
stay ashore. They really are nothing but trailer park trash cum marina trash
cum pretend sailor. "Hey lookit meeeee!" types.

I can't stand it when my neighbors run their TVs full blast. How about
other people?? Hello??


They are disgusting, selfish and ignorant, bothersome losers.

Sounds like you've had your run-ins with them. It must be nice if you
can find a quiet spot.

Believe me I have. I get settled into a nice quiet anchorage by
mid-afternoon and around sunset here comes the obnoxious twits who come
motoring in, anchor directly upwind of me, the only other boat in the
anchorage, and about three boat lengths away. Do they think I love company
so much that I need a close neighbor? They anchor by committee which is the
moron at the helm yelling at the top of his lungs at the poor wife at the
bow dealing with the anchor. Then they don't even back down on the anchor.
They just drop it with about twenty feet of chain lying right on top of it.
Then they jump in the inflatable with the 25 HP outboard, they coax in the
barking dog. Then off they roar making a big wake. Then they come back after
the dog has shat on somebody's lawn with bags of groceries and cases of beer
and then they proceed to play loud music and get drunk and holler and scream
until about 2 o'clock in the morning. This is what sailing has come to and
most of the imbeciles here in this group actually defend that kind of
behavior because they, themselves, regularly engage in it.

How do you deal with them? I hate yelling. I had an ex who yelled.
Give me a break. I was smarter and he couldn't handle it. Dump time
didn't come a day too soon!

It's a truly sad state of affairs.

Wilbur Hubbard

"Jessica B" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 25 Jan 2011 14:36:52 -0500, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote:
snip

You're a rare type these days. . .

Well, thanks! Actually, I have some friends who are pretty sensible.
They can't believe I work for the city.

It must be difficult working alongside a bunch of liberals which is usually
what you end up with in any government office. They hate conservatives and
actively discriminate against them. So much for their vaunted 'diversity.'

snip

I guess the point is these lubbers who pretend to be sailors are actually
comforted by having familiar household appliances running. I suppose it
relieves the tension the feel on a boat so they use it as a security
blanket
of sorts.

I don't even like to listen to the TV... maybe some football or
baseball at a friend's place.

Atta girl! I used to have a little TV years ago but I got so mad at how
much of a waste of space it was that I ended up tossing it overboard in the
Gulf Stream one fine day. Haven't missed TV since. The little snippets I get
of it in public places such as stores and restaurants reconfirms my
observation that TV is the main reason why much of the American public is a
bunch of stupid, brainwashed, mindless consumers and hypocrite drones.

The only place to get somewhat accurate and unbiased information is the
radio. A shortwave radio receiver is a necessity so one can listen to radio
around the world to get an unslanted view of what's going on. Even Radio
Havana has more accurate reporting than the Voice of America or the
Corporation for Public Broadcast - a taxpayer supported arm of the Democrat
Party.

I don't know if you've spent any time in or around boats but very
ludicrous
is when so-called sailors become all insecure in any kind of moderate to
heavy winds so what do they do? They start up the diesel and keep it
running
on 'standby'. Talk about Binky city. LOL!

Not really a lot. It's pretty light wind down this way, but I don't
think the boats around here go out much. Every time I visit a marina,
just about every boat is at the dock. The big ones never seem to
leave.. mostly smaller ones who look like they know what they're
doing.

What you just said applies almost EVERYWHERE. Few things are more pathetic
than the pretenders living in the Marinas or keeping their boats there where
most of them rot away going unused year after year, just taking up space and
making the Marina look like some floating, trailer park trash haven. It is a
general truism that the bigger the boat the less it sails. You hit the nail
right on the head with that one, JessicaB. Just look at all the
thick-as-an-arm, power cords, hoses, dock lines, cable TV hook-ups,fenders,
etc. that must be dealt with. Daunting. I can be underway in two minutes
just by tying a float to my mooring lines and dropping it into the water.

snip

I suppose I'm spoiled here in southern Florida. It gets a little chilly
from
time to time in the winter but most of the year it's shorts, sandals and
t-shirt time. Shoes are for the land. I don't allow cigarette smoking
aboard
nor do I allow shoes worn. Nothing beats bare feet. If one is so clumsy
that
they stub a toe then I say, "TOUGH." So no bubble busted. Actually any
enclosed footwear is bad for the feet. Makes a great environment for
smelly
bacteria and hungry fungus.

I hate to wear closed shoes if I don't have to... I have to at work. a
nice outfit because I have deal with the public when I travel around.

What kind of work do you do?

snip

You are so well-grounded. Why can't everybody be a little less selfish and
a
little more concerned about peace and quiet - especially in an anchorage.
Are they so stupid and/or rude that they think their individual noise has
greater rights than others peace and quiet. Just who are these people who
are so self-centered and arrogant? Not only do they make noise but they
pollute the atmosphere doing it. Any boat downwind from a diesel motor
running will be forced to breathe dangerous and obnoxious fumes. How rude
is
THAT?

It's got to be the worst smell there is. I almost puked the last time
I smelled it.

Many people become "seasick" on diesel powered boats not as much from the
motion but from those obnoxious diesel fumes. I wish there were stricter
emmission standards being enforced for diesel engines.

snip


I can't stand it when my neighbors run their TVs full blast. How about
other people?? Hello??

You won't get much support among this bunch of lubbers who are addicted to
their televisions. They are just so used to noise. Instead of doing the
sensible thing and turning the noise down, they turn it up more and more to
drown out all the other inconsiderate people who are making an infernal
racket. It becomes a vicious circle of escalating noise.

snip

Believe me I have. I get settled into a nice quiet anchorage by
mid-afternoon and around sunset here comes the obnoxious twits who come
motoring in, anchor directly upwind of me, the only other boat in the
anchorage, and about three boat lengths away. Do they think I love company
so much that I need a close neighbor? They anchor by committee which is
the
moron at the helm yelling at the top of his lungs at the poor wife at the
bow dealing with the anchor. Then they don't even back down on the anchor.
They just drop it with about twenty feet of chain lying right on top of
it.
Then they jump in the inflatable with the 25 HP outboard, they coax in the
barking dog. Then off they roar making a big wake. Then they come back
after
the dog has shat on somebody's lawn with bags of groceries and cases of
beer
and then they proceed to play loud music and get drunk and holler and
scream
until about 2 o'clock in the morning. This is what sailing has come to and
most of the imbeciles here in this group actually defend that kind of
behavior because they, themselves, regularly engage in it.

How do you deal with them? I hate yelling. I had an ex who yelled.
Give me a break. I was smarter and he couldn't handle it. Dump time
didn't come a day too soon!

Sadly, there isn't much one can do other than weighing anchor and moving
someplace else far enough away where there aren't any inconsiderate morons
within earshot. You can't reason with people who can't even understand they
are not wanted in the area and are acting like Neanderthals. They have this
attitude that the whole world revolves around them and everybody else can
just bugger off.



Wilbur Hubbard

On Wed, 26 Jan 2011 13:18:55 -0500, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote:

"Jessica B" wrote in message
.. .
On Tue, 25 Jan 2011 14:36:52 -0500, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote:
snip

You're a rare type these days. . .

Well, thanks! Actually, I have some friends who are pretty sensible.
They can't believe I work for the city.

It must be difficult working alongside a bunch of liberals which is usually
what you end up with in any government office. They hate conservatives and
actively discriminate against them. So much for their vaunted 'diversity.'

Tell me about it. If I want to keep my job, I need to keep my mouth
shut. I put a small "Support our troops" ribbon-sticker on the car I'm
assigned and someone in the office complained to my boss. I asked what
the problem was with it, and he told me that "while you have the right
to free speech, you can't have the sticker on an official car." Ok,
except that he had a "Mystery Spot" sticker on his (it's a place in
northern cal that's an optical illusion). No comment from him.
snip

I guess the point is these lubbers who pretend to be sailors are actually
comforted by having familiar household appliances running. I suppose it
relieves the tension the feel on a boat so they use it as a security
blanket
of sorts.

I don't even like to listen to the TV... maybe some football or
baseball at a friend's place.

Atta girl! I used to have a little TV years ago but I got so mad at how
much of a waste of space it was that I ended up tossing it overboard in the
Gulf Stream one fine day. Haven't missed TV since. The little snippets I get
of it in public places such as stores and restaurants reconfirms my
observation that TV is the main reason why much of the American public is a
bunch of stupid, brainwashed, mindless consumers and hypocrite drones.

All you get is Olbermann (that God he's off!) or blood and guns
nonsense. I can't listen to any of them honestly.

The only place to get somewhat accurate and unbiased information is the
radio. A shortwave radio receiver is a necessity so one can listen to radio
around the world to get an unslanted view of what's going on. Even Radio
Havana has more accurate reporting than the Voice of America or the
Corporation for Public Broadcast - a taxpayer supported arm of the Democrat
Party.

I don't have a shortwave. Don't you have to have a license to use it?
Ham?

I don't know if you've spent any time in or around boats but very
ludicrous
is when so-called sailors become all insecure in any kind of moderate to
heavy winds so what do they do? They start up the diesel and keep it
running
on 'standby'. Talk about Binky city. LOL!

Not really a lot. It's pretty light wind down this way, but I don't
think the boats around here go out much. Every time I visit a marina,
just about every boat is at the dock. The big ones never seem to
leave.. mostly smaller ones who look like they know what they're
doing.

What you just said applies almost EVERYWHERE. Few things are more pathetic
than the pretenders living in the Marinas or keeping their boats there where
most of them rot away going unused year after year, just taking up space and
making the Marina look like some floating, trailer park trash haven. It is a
general truism that the bigger the boat the less it sails. You hit the nail
right on the head with that one, JessicaB. Just look at all the
thick-as-an-arm, power cords, hoses, dock lines, cable TV hook-ups,fenders,
etc. that must be dealt with. Daunting. I can be underway in two minutes
just by tying a float to my mooring lines and dropping it into the water.

Well I guess if you have a boat for entertainment or something, then I
guess it's ok to be stuck next to the other guy who's doing the same
thing. I even saw a LCD or LED TV on one of them. Seems dumb. Seems
like if you want to entertain people, do it in your house or rent a
hotel venue.

snip

I suppose I'm spoiled here in southern Florida. It gets a little chilly
from
time to time in the winter but most of the year it's shorts, sandals and
t-shirt time. Shoes are for the land. I don't allow cigarette smoking
aboard
nor do I allow shoes worn. Nothing beats bare feet. If one is so clumsy
that
they stub a toe then I say, "TOUGH." So no bubble busted. Actually any
enclosed footwear is bad for the feet. Makes a great environment for
smelly
bacteria and hungry fungus.

I hate to wear closed shoes if I don't have to... I have to at work. a
nice outfit because I have deal with the public when I travel around.

What kind of work do you do?

I'm part of the building dept. inspector's office. Oh look, that pipe
is suppose to be gray not white, and shocker... it's an inch off for
the bury depth. Here's a violation for you. Oh, I'm sorry, even though
it was done to code, you didn't pull a permit for that portable hot
tub, so we have to red-flag it. Some of it I get, but most of it is
just for money for the city. Got off early today. I faked a headache.

snip

You are so well-grounded. Why can't everybody be a little less selfish and
a
little more concerned about peace and quiet - especially in an anchorage.
Are they so stupid and/or rude that they think their individual noise has
greater rights than others peace and quiet. Just who are these people who
are so self-centered and arrogant? Not only do they make noise but they
pollute the atmosphere doing it. Any boat downwind from a diesel motor
running will be forced to breathe dangerous and obnoxious fumes. How rude
is
THAT?

It's got to be the worst smell there is. I almost puked the last time
I smelled it.

Many people become "seasick" on diesel powered boats not as much from the
motion but from those obnoxious diesel fumes. I wish there were stricter
emmission standards being enforced for diesel engines.

I don't mind gas engine smell too much, but diesel is foul.

snip


I can't stand it when my neighbors run their TVs full blast. How about
other people?? Hello??

You won't get much support among this bunch of lubbers who are addicted to
their televisions. They are just so used to noise. Instead of doing the
sensible thing and turning the noise down, they turn it up more and more to
drown out all the other inconsiderate people who are making an infernal
racket. It becomes a vicious circle of escalating noise.

snip

Believe me I have. I get settled into a nice quiet anchorage by
mid-afternoon and around sunset here comes the obnoxious twits who come
motoring in, anchor directly upwind of me, the only other boat in the
anchorage, and about three boat lengths away. Do they think I love company
so much that I need a close neighbor? They anchor by committee which is
the
moron at the helm yelling at the top of his lungs at the poor wife at the
bow dealing with the anchor. Then they don't even back down on the anchor.
They just drop it with about twenty feet of chain lying right on top of
it.
Then they jump in the inflatable with the 25 HP outboard, they coax in the
barking dog. Then off they roar making a big wake. Then they come back
after
the dog has shat on somebody's lawn with bags of groceries and cases of
beer
and then they proceed to play loud music and get drunk and holler and
scream
until about 2 o'clock in the morning. This is what sailing has come to and
most of the imbeciles here in this group actually defend that kind of
behavior because they, themselves, regularly engage in it.

How do you deal with them? I hate yelling. I had an ex who yelled.
Give me a break. I was smarter and he couldn't handle it. Dump time
didn't come a day too soon!

Sadly, there isn't much one can do other than weighing anchor and moving
someplace else far enough away where there aren't any inconsiderate morons
within earshot. You can't reason with people who can't even understand they
are not wanted in the area and are acting like Neanderthals. They have this
attitude that the whole world revolves around them and everybody else can
just bugger off.

That doesn't seem right. I mean if you were there first... oh well.
Seems like a pain to raise the anchor. It must be pretty big even for
a smaller boat? It's got to hold all the weight in place, even if
there are waves and wind. Maybe two smaller ones are better than one
big one?

"Jessica B" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 26 Jan 2011 13:18:55 -0500, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote:
snipped some repeat


Tell me about it. If I want to keep my job, I need to keep my mouth
shut. I put a small "Support our troops" ribbon-sticker on the car I'm
assigned and someone in the office complained to my boss. I asked what
the problem was with it, and he told me that "while you have the right
to free speech, you can't have the sticker on an official car." Ok,
except that he had a "Mystery Spot" sticker on his (it's a place in
northern cal that's an optical illusion). No comment from him.

Yes, the old, liberal double standard rears it's ugly head. Do as I say -
not as I do and all that. . . Try to find a G-Spot sticker (apolitical just
like his) for your car and when he tells you to get rid of it be sure to
have a photo of his "Mystery Spot" sticker then hit him up with a sexual
harassment lawsuit.



snippage
..

Atta girl! I used to have a little TV years ago but I got so mad at how
much of a waste of space it was that I ended up tossing it overboard in
the
Gulf Stream one fine day. Haven't missed TV since. The little snippets I
get
of it in public places such as stores and restaurants reconfirms my
observation that TV is the main reason why much of the American public is
a
bunch of stupid, brainwashed, mindless consumers and hypocrite drones.

All you get is Olbermann (that God he's off!) or blood and guns
nonsense. I can't listen to any of them honestly.


Never even saw that Rube. Just heard Rush describing how worthless he is and
didn't they just fire his sorry arse? Is Olberman the one who got the tingle
right up his leg when listening to Obama?


The only place to get somewhat accurate and unbiased information is the
radio. A shortwave radio receiver is a necessity so one can listen to
radio
around the world to get an unslanted view of what's going on. Even Radio
Havana has more accurate reporting than the Voice of America or the
Corporation for Public Broadcast - a taxpayer supported arm of the
Democrat
Party.

I don't have a shortwave. Don't you have to have a license to use it?
Ham?

Only if you transmit.

You can listen to any frequency without a license thus the recommendation of
a receiver and not a transceiver. I hate Ham and SSB radios aboard yachts.
This is yet another anomaly that some pretenders must install because they
need the Binky to remind them of their preferred way of life - a lubberly
abode ashore.

snippage

What you just said applies almost EVERYWHERE. Few things are more pathetic
than the pretenders living in the Marinas or keeping their boats there
where
most of them rot away going unused year after year, just taking up space
and
making the Marina look like some floating, trailer park trash haven. It is
a
general truism that the bigger the boat the less it sails. You hit the
nail
right on the head with that one, JessicaB. Just look at all the
thick-as-an-arm, power cords, hoses, dock lines, cable TV
hook-ups,fenders,
etc. that must be dealt with. Daunting. I can be underway in two minutes
just by tying a float to my mooring lines and dropping it into the water.

Well I guess if you have a boat for entertainment or something, then I
guess it's ok to be stuck next to the other guy who's doing the same
thing. I even saw a LCD or LED TV on one of them. Seems dumb. Seems
like if you want to entertain people, do it in your house or rent a
hotel venue.

Funny that you mentioned the flat-screened TVs. You'd be surprised at how
often a discussion of flat-screened TVs comes up here. It's so ludicrous
reading so-called sailors REAL priorities - television. Some of them even
have satellite receivers aboard. All the more reason for them to run smelly
and noisy generators multiple hours each and every day. Anything but sailing
yet they claim to be sailors.

snippage


What kind of work do you do?

I'm part of the building dept. inspector's office. Oh look, that pipe
is suppose to be gray not white, and shocker... it's an inch off for
the bury depth. Here's a violation for you. Oh, I'm sorry, even though
it was done to code, you didn't pull a permit for that portable hot
tub, so we have to red-flag it. Some of it I get, but most of it is
just for money for the city. Got off early today. I faked a headache.


Ha ha. Women sure get a lot of mileage out of the good ole headache. LOL!
Boy, yours is a thankless job. Everybody hates a building/construction
inspector but you guys are necessary. Otherwise builders would cheat to cut
costs and shoddy, substandard and dangerous construction would be the norm.

snippage


Sadly, there isn't much one can do other than weighing anchor and moving
someplace else far enough away where there aren't any inconsiderate morons
within earshot. You can't reason with people who can't even understand
they
are not wanted in the area and are acting like Neanderthals. They have
this
attitude that the whole world revolves around them and everybody else can
just bugger off.

That doesn't seem right. I mean if you were there first... oh well.
Seems like a pain to raise the anchor. It must be pretty big even for
a smaller boat? It's got to hold all the weight in place, even if
there are waves and wind. Maybe two smaller ones are better than one
big one?


You're correct, it isn't right but that's life. One of the many good things
about a functionally-sized sailboat is the smaller and manageable ground
tackle. I carry three different anchors at the ready on bow rollers --
22-pound Danforth Hi-Tensile, 25-pound CQR, and 25-pound Herreschoff
yachtsman anchor. Each have about ten feet of stainless steel chain affixed.
I usually set two anchors Bahamian style. Being a strong, handsome and
virile man, it is nothing for me to weigh a couple of 25-pound anchors and
move away from some inconsiderate and noisy jerk's hazard to my health and
welfare. I don't particularly like doing it but one must often take matters
in one's own hands to better one's circumstances and the inconsiderate
people be damned.


Wilbur Hubbard

On Thu, 27 Jan 2011 11:26:55 -0500, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote:

"Jessica B" wrote in message
.. .
On Wed, 26 Jan 2011 13:18:55 -0500, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote:
snipped some repeat


Tell me about it. If I want to keep my job, I need to keep my mouth
shut. I put a small "Support our troops" ribbon-sticker on the car I'm
assigned and someone in the office complained to my boss. I asked what
the problem was with it, and he told me that "while you have the right
to free speech, you can't have the sticker on an official car." Ok,
except that he had a "Mystery Spot" sticker on his (it's a place in
northern cal that's an optical illusion). No comment from him.

Yes, the old, liberal double standard rears it's ugly head. Do as I say -
not as I do and all that. . . Try to find a G-Spot sticker (apolitical just
like his) for your car and when he tells you to get rid of it be sure to
have a photo of his "Mystery Spot" sticker then hit him up with a sexual
harassment lawsuit.

Actually, it's even better than that. His boss and I are sort of lunch
buddies going on a couple of years... it's kind of a long story, but
the short version is that I was on this commercial inspection project
in full "inspector" regalia (hard hat, gloves, steel-toe boots - all
of which were required, but I rarely go on these sites any more)..
anyway.. he ran over my foot in the dirt lot (no damage, just some
bruising) and he's still feels bad about it. I didn't go on workers
comp, which meant I didn't have to fill out a report, so you get it.

So, we're having lunch and I mention about stickers on vehicles...
isn't that against policy? Well, no, it isn't as long as it's
tasteful. So, I said, would it be ok if I put a Support our Troops on
the bumper... no problem. It's going on tomorrow.

snippage
.

Atta girl! I used to have a little TV years ago but I got so mad at how
much of a waste of space it was that I ended up tossing it overboard in
the
Gulf Stream one fine day. Haven't missed TV since. The little snippets I
get
of it in public places such as stores and restaurants reconfirms my
observation that TV is the main reason why much of the American public is
a
bunch of stupid, brainwashed, mindless consumers and hypocrite drones.

All you get is Olbermann (that God he's off!) or blood and guns
nonsense. I can't listen to any of them honestly.


Never even saw that Rube. Just heard Rush describing how worthless he is and
didn't they just fire his sorry arse? Is Olberman the one who got the tingle
right up his leg when listening to Obama?

Yep.. fired him, some deal I think. Chris Matthews... another
intellectual snob IMHO.


The only place to get somewhat accurate and unbiased information is the
radio. A shortwave radio receiver is a necessity so one can listen to
radio
around the world to get an unslanted view of what's going on. Even Radio
Havana has more accurate reporting than the Voice of America or the
Corporation for Public Broadcast - a taxpayer supported arm of the
Democrat
Party.

I don't have a shortwave. Don't you have to have a license to use it?
Ham?

Only if you transmit.

Ah...

You can listen to any frequency without a license thus the recommendation of
a receiver and not a transceiver. I hate Ham and SSB radios aboard yachts.
This is yet another anomaly that some pretenders must install because they
need the Binky to remind them of their preferred way of life - a lubberly
abode ashore.

Blinky? I've not heard that term... for a Ham radio??

snippage

What you just said applies almost EVERYWHERE. Few things are more pathetic
than the pretenders living in the Marinas or keeping their boats there
where
most of them rot away going unused year after year, just taking up space
and
making the Marina look like some floating, trailer park trash haven. It is
a
general truism that the bigger the boat the less it sails. You hit the
nail
right on the head with that one, JessicaB. Just look at all the
thick-as-an-arm, power cords, hoses, dock lines, cable TV
hook-ups,fenders,
etc. that must be dealt with. Daunting. I can be underway in two minutes
just by tying a float to my mooring lines and dropping it into the water.

Well I guess if you have a boat for entertainment or something, then I
guess it's ok to be stuck next to the other guy who's doing the same
thing. I even saw a LCD or LED TV on one of them. Seems dumb. Seems
like if you want to entertain people, do it in your house or rent a
hotel venue.

Funny that you mentioned the flat-screened TVs. You'd be surprised at how
often a discussion of flat-screened TVs comes up here. It's so ludicrous
reading so-called sailors REAL priorities - television. Some of them even
have satellite receivers aboard. All the more reason for them to run smelly
and noisy generators multiple hours each and every day. Anything but sailing
yet they claim to be sailors.

Yeah, I just don't get it. There are so many things to see and do...
how about some real life!

snippage


What kind of work do you do?

I'm part of the building dept. inspector's office. Oh look, that pipe
is suppose to be gray not white, and shocker... it's an inch off for
the bury depth. Here's a violation for you. Oh, I'm sorry, even though
it was done to code, you didn't pull a permit for that portable hot
tub, so we have to red-flag it. Some of it I get, but most of it is
just for money for the city. Got off early today. I faked a headache.


Ha ha. Women sure get a lot of mileage out of the good ole headache. LOL!
Boy, yours is a thankless job. Everybody hates a building/construction
inspector but you guys are necessary. Otherwise builders would cheat to cut
costs and shoddy, substandard and dangerous construction would be the norm.

I didn't even have to say PMS! They just assumed.

We do good things most of the time. The commercial people mostly get
it. Don't f*ck with me or your life will be a living hell. (Actually,
they seem to listen to me more than the residential customers.) The
residential ones think they know everything! I had one a couple of
weeks ago.. a diy job. The guy hooked up furness fine, but never
attached the ducting that goes from the air intake to the unit... a
good inch gap - so it was sucking in air from God knows where, so the
chief red-flagged it. I found it, so I got "blamed" by the customer. I
said, hey, would you like me to look around for some more things?

snippage


Sadly, there isn't much one can do other than weighing anchor and moving
someplace else far enough away where there aren't any inconsiderate morons
within earshot. You can't reason with people who can't even understand
they
are not wanted in the area and are acting like Neanderthals. They have
this
attitude that the whole world revolves around them and everybody else can
just bugger off.

That doesn't seem right. I mean if you were there first... oh well.
Seems like a pain to raise the anchor. It must be pretty big even for
a smaller boat? It's got to hold all the weight in place, even if
there are waves and wind. Maybe two smaller ones are better than one
big one?


You're correct, it isn't right but that's life. One of the many good things
about a functionally-sized sailboat is the smaller and manageable ground
tackle. I carry three different anchors at the ready on bow rollers --
22-pound Danforth Hi-Tensile, 25-pound CQR, and 25-pound Herreschoff
yachtsman anchor. Each have about ten feet of stainless steel chain affixed.
I usually set two anchors Bahamian style. Being a strong, handsome and
virile man, it is nothing for me to weigh a couple of 25-pound anchors and
move away from some inconsiderate and noisy jerk's hazard to my health and
welfare. I don't particularly like doing it but one must often take matters
in one's own hands to better one's circumstances and the inconsiderate
people be damned.

Three... whoa! It must take a lot to bring up the big ones... even
just 10 ft. of chain isn't light.

"Jessica B" wrote in message
...
snip

Actually, it's even better than that. His boss and I are sort of lunch
buddies going on a couple of years... it's kind of a long story, but
the short version is that I was on this commercial inspection project
in full "inspector" regalia (hard hat, gloves, steel-toe boots - all
of which were required, but I rarely go on these sites any more)..
anyway.. he ran over my foot in the dirt lot (no damage, just some
bruising) and he's still feels bad about it. I didn't go on workers
comp, which meant I didn't have to fill out a report, so you get it.

So, we're having lunch and I mention about stickers on vehicles...
isn't that against policy? Well, no, it isn't as long as it's
tasteful. So, I said, would it be ok if I put a Support our Troops on
the bumper... no problem. It's going on tomorrow.


I love it! So, what are you going to say to your boss then he tries to
write you up for putting the sticker back on? "You'd better talk to YOUR
boss because he told me it was OK." That'll larn him!



snipped some more

Blinky? I've not heard that term... for a Ham radio??


That's "Binky". You know one of those little fake nipples mothers let their
babies suck on so they don't cry.

http://www.drugstore.com/products/pr...ELAID=61283337


snip

Funny that you mentioned the flat-screened TVs. You'd be surprised at how
often a discussion of flat-screened TVs comes up here. It's so ludicrous
reading so-called sailors REAL priorities - television. Some of them even
have satellite receivers aboard. All the more reason for them to run
smelly
and noisy generators multiple hours each and every day. Anything but
sailing
yet they claim to be sailors.

Yeah, I just don't get it. There are so many things to see and do...
how about some real life!

Don't hold your breath . . . They don't call them 'sheeple' for nothing.



I didn't even have to say PMS! They just assumed.


But, you can only get away with it once a month provided they have halfway
decent memories. ;-)

We do good things most of the time. The commercial people mostly get
it. Don't f*ck with me or your life will be a living hell. (Actually,
they seem to listen to me more than the residential customers.) The
residential ones think they know everything! I had one a couple of
weeks ago.. a diy job. The guy hooked up furness fine, but never
attached the ducting that goes from the air intake to the unit... a
good inch gap - so it was sucking in air from God knows where, so the
chief red-flagged it. I found it, so I got "blamed" by the customer. I
said, hey, would you like me to look around for some more things?

You should get yourself a nice pair of black, shiney jackboots and a riding
crop - really intimidate them. LOL!



Three... whoa! It must take a lot to bring up the big ones... even
just 10 ft. of chain isn't light.




Even with the chain they only weigh about 35 pounds each. That's not much
really. Breaking them out of the bottom, if the holding is good, is the most
work but usually the boat does all that work. Just snub up the chain until
it's straight up and down and let a few waves roll under the hull and the
boat pulls the anchor out of the mud or sand.

The eyes bigger than their stomach crowd with their forty and fifty foot
boats must use anchors bigger and heavier than they can manually weigh -
fifty or sixty pound anchors and lots of heavy chain - so they are forced to
use windlasses which use electricity to pull up the ground tackle. These use
tons of electricity and are very heavy and require heavy wire because of the
high amperage loads. So, where does all that electricity come from? You
guessed it, it comes from smelly, pollution machine diesels generating
electricity at all hours. Overly large sailboats are really stupid, IMO. Any
time a boat is so large that one strong man cannot manually work the various
systems, it tells me it's an exercise in mental retardation on behalf of the
owner.



Wilbur Hubbard

On Fri, 28 Jan 2011 12:50:15 -0500, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote:

"Jessica B" wrote in message
.. .
snip

Actually, it's even better than that. His boss and I are sort of lunch
buddies going on a couple of years... it's kind of a long story, but
the short version is that I was on this commercial inspection project
in full "inspector" regalia (hard hat, gloves, steel-toe boots - all
of which were required, but I rarely go on these sites any more)..
anyway.. he ran over my foot in the dirt lot (no damage, just some
bruising) and he's still feels bad about it. I didn't go on workers
comp, which meant I didn't have to fill out a report, so you get it.

So, we're having lunch and I mention about stickers on vehicles...
isn't that against policy? Well, no, it isn't as long as it's
tasteful. So, I said, would it be ok if I put a Support our Troops on
the bumper... no problem. It's going on tomorrow.


I love it! So, what are you going to say to your boss then he tries to
write you up for putting the sticker back on? "You'd better talk to YOUR
boss because he told me it was OK." That'll larn him!

It was perfect. I actually just walked in there before I left (leave
at 3pm), and sort of casually said, hey about that sticker thing... I
was talking to Greg and he seemed ok with it, but I can remove it if
you really think it's a problem. So, he says, oh yeah, Greg said
something to me about the (his Mystery Spot) sticker, but didn't say
to take it off. So I guess just don't worry about it. (I don't think
anyone complained. I think he just had a hair up his butt about
something and I happened to be there.)

snipped some more

Blinky? I've not heard that term... for a Ham radio??


That's "Binky". You know one of those little fake nipples mothers let their
babies suck on so they don't cry.

http://www.drugstore.com/products/pr...ELAID=61283337


Ah.. ok. Never heard it called that. No kids and I limit my time with
my nieces.

snip

Funny that you mentioned the flat-screened TVs. You'd be surprised at how
often a discussion of flat-screened TVs comes up here. It's so ludicrous
reading so-called sailors REAL priorities - television. Some of them even
have satellite receivers aboard. All the more reason for them to run
smelly
and noisy generators multiple hours each and every day. Anything but
sailing
yet they claim to be sailors.

Yeah, I just don't get it. There are so many things to see and do...
how about some real life!

Don't hold your breath . . . They don't call them 'sheeple' for nothing.



I didn't even have to say PMS! They just assumed.


But, you can only get away with it once a month provided they have halfway
decent memories. ;-)

That's true, but that "once a month" could be a week! I know some
girls who would remove said pound of flesh if someone looks at them
the wrong way.

We do good things most of the time. The commercial people mostly get
it. Don't f*ck with me or your life will be a living hell. (Actually,
they seem to listen to me more than the residential customers.) The
residential ones think they know everything! I had one a couple of
weeks ago.. a diy job. The guy hooked up furness fine, but never
attached the ducting that goes from the air intake to the unit... a
good inch gap - so it was sucking in air from God knows where, so the
chief red-flagged it. I found it, so I got "blamed" by the customer. I
said, hey, would you like me to look around for some more things?

You should get yourself a nice pair of black, shiney jackboots and a riding
crop - really intimidate them. LOL!

Heh... Well, I prefer to go down the easy road first. I don't need the
stress. I mean if they want to blow up their house, all their
possessions, kids, wife, car... fine with me, as long as I told em and
wrote it down.



Three... whoa! It must take a lot to bring up the big ones... even
just 10 ft. of chain isn't light.




Even with the chain they only weigh about 35 pounds each. That's not much
really. Breaking them out of the bottom, if the holding is good, is the most
work but usually the boat does all that work. Just snub up the chain until
it's straight up and down and let a few waves roll under the hull and the
boat pulls the anchor out of the mud or sand.

Well, heck! Even I can lift 35 lbs! Snub? Ok... like shorten it, so
you're pulling until you're right over it. Got it. The guy with the
Catalina had this monster-looking anchor, but we didn't use it.

The eyes bigger than their stomach crowd with their forty and fifty foot
boats must use anchors bigger and heavier than they can manually weigh -
fifty or sixty pound anchors and lots of heavy chain - so they are forced to
use windlasses which use electricity to pull up the ground tackle. These use
tons of electricity and are very heavy and require heavy wire because of the
high amperage loads. So, where does all that electricity come from? You
guessed it, it comes from smelly, pollution machine diesels generating
electricity at all hours. Overly large sailboats are really stupid, IMO. Any
time a boat is so large that one strong man cannot manually work the various
systems, it tells me it's an exercise in mental retardation on behalf of the
owner.

Yes... I think he had all of it chain or well all I could see. It went
into a hatch, so I don't know. There was definitely chain though.