On Sat, 22 Jan 2011 22:18:51 -0600, CaveLamb
wrote:



What do you think, Wilbur?
Would this one do?

Cannibal
http://www.sailingtexas.com/scustom54100.html

Wow... pretty boat, but isn't it a pain to get in an out from where
the big wheel is? Seems like they could have made it simpler.

A washer/dryer on a sailboat??? That's weird!
--

47 is special

Jessica,
I hate laundermats. I have a washer and dryer on my boat. They are very useful. Here is a tip, never use a belt drive model. They
throw the belt off when sailing.
Steve

"Jessica B" wrote in message ...
On Sat, 22 Jan 2011 22:18:51 -0600, CaveLamb
wrote:



What do you think, Wilbur?
Would this one do?

Cannibal
http://www.sailingtexas.com/scustom54100.html

Wow... pretty boat, but isn't it a pain to get in an out from where
the big wheel is? Seems like they could have made it simpler.

A washer/dryer on a sailboat??? That's weird!
--

47 is special

I'm guessing that on a two or three year cruise it might be nice to
processionally have clean clothes.

But that's just me. YMMV?


Steve Lusardi wrote:
Jessica,
I hate laundermats. I have a washer and dryer on my boat. They are very
useful. Here is a tip, never use a belt drive model. They throw the belt
off when sailing.
Steve

"Jessica B" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 22 Jan 2011 22:18:51 -0600, CaveLamb
wrote:



What do you think, Wilbur?
Would this one do?

Cannibal
http://www.sailingtexas.com/scustom54100.html

Wow... pretty boat, but isn't it a pain to get in an out from where
the big wheel is? Seems like they could have made it simpler.

A washer/dryer on a sailboat??? That's weird!
--

47 is special



--

Richard Lamb
email me:
web site: http://www.home.earthlink.net/~cavelamb

On Sun, 23 Jan 2011 17:48:35 -0600, CaveLamb
wrote:

I'm guessing that on a two or three year cruise it might be nice to
processionally have clean clothes.

But that's just me. YMMV?


Steve Lusardi wrote:
Jessica,
I hate laundermats. I have a washer and dryer on my boat. They are very
useful. Here is a tip, never use a belt drive model. They throw the belt
off when sailing.
Steve

"Jessica B" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 22 Jan 2011 22:18:51 -0600, CaveLamb
wrote:



What do you think, Wilbur?
Would this one do?

Cannibal
http://www.sailingtexas.com/scustom54100.html

Wow... pretty boat, but isn't it a pain to get in an out from where
the big wheel is? Seems like they could have made it simpler.

A washer/dryer on a sailboat??? That's weird!
--

47 is special


Doesn't the boat ever stop somewhere? Seems like all you have to do is
pull in somewhere and deal with it.

What happens in the middle of the ocean? You're going to do laundry in
your bring-along system? Seems at odds with sailing some how.

"Jessica B" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 23 Jan 2011 17:48:35 -0600, CaveLamb
wrote:

I'm guessing that on a two or three year cruise it might be nice to
processionally have clean clothes.

But that's just me. YMMV?


Steve Lusardi wrote:
Jessica,
I hate laundermats. I have a washer and dryer on my boat. They are very
useful. Here is a tip, never use a belt drive model. They throw the belt
off when sailing.
Steve

"Jessica B" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 22 Jan 2011 22:18:51 -0600, CaveLamb
wrote:



What do you think, Wilbur?
Would this one do?

Cannibal
http://www.sailingtexas.com/scustom54100.html

Wow... pretty boat, but isn't it a pain to get in an out from where
the big wheel is? Seems like they could have made it simpler.

A washer/dryer on a sailboat??? That's weird!
--

47 is special


Doesn't the boat ever stop somewhere? Seems like all you have to do is
pull in somewhere and deal with it.

What happens in the middle of the ocean? You're going to do laundry in
your bring-along system? Seems at odds with sailing some how.



I can't help loving your sensible attitude.

You are 100% correct. Some of these lubbers don't know what sailing's all
about, even when they've abused (as opposed to used) a sailboat for years.
Some, like those who carry shoreside-type washer/driers and run them when
sailing (or when anchored) are just plain pathetic.

When sailing one needs minimal clothing. To wash that clothing, when
necessary, all that's needed is a bucket full of salt water, a good
detergent that bubbles up in salt water and bleach. Hand scrubbing some
shorts and t-shirts takes little time and one hand-rinse with fresh water
will rid them of salt residue so they dry properly. Drying them in the wind
and sun takes less than a half hour.

Instead, some so-called sailors load their boats up with all sorts of
lubberly crap that requires lubberly amount of energy and I'm convinced they
do so because they really are AFRAID to sail and live the sailing life so
they sail a house, apartment or condo instead.

I wouldn't mind this sort of stupidity except for the fact that it spreads
out from their boats like a giant sewage slick. The noise of generators 24/7
to run all this crap impinges upon the peace, quiet and clean air of
anchorages everywhere. And, these fools actually think they are sailors.
They think they are cool and they actually brag about their selfish and
anti-social activities on Usenet.

They are disgusting, selfish and ignorant, bothersome losers.


Wilbur Hubbard

On Mon, 24 Jan 2011 10:15:48 -0500, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote:

"Jessica B" wrote in message
.. .
On Sun, 23 Jan 2011 17:48:35 -0600, CaveLamb
wrote:

I'm guessing that on a two or three year cruise it might be nice to
processionally have clean clothes.

But that's just me. YMMV?


Steve Lusardi wrote:
Jessica,
I hate laundermats. I have a washer and dryer on my boat. They are very
useful. Here is a tip, never use a belt drive model. They throw the belt
off when sailing.
Steve

"Jessica B" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 22 Jan 2011 22:18:51 -0600, CaveLamb
wrote:



What do you think, Wilbur?
Would this one do?

Cannibal
http://www.sailingtexas.com/scustom54100.html

Wow... pretty boat, but isn't it a pain to get in an out from where
the big wheel is? Seems like they could have made it simpler.

A washer/dryer on a sailboat??? That's weird!
--

47 is special


Doesn't the boat ever stop somewhere? Seems like all you have to do is
pull in somewhere and deal with it.

What happens in the middle of the ocean? You're going to do laundry in
your bring-along system? Seems at odds with sailing some how.



I can't help loving your sensible attitude.

You are 100% correct. Some of these lubbers don't know what sailing's all
about, even when they've abused (as opposed to used) a sailboat for years.
Some, like those who carry shoreside-type washer/driers and run them when
sailing (or when anchored) are just plain pathetic.

When sailing one needs minimal clothing. To wash that clothing, when
necessary, all that's needed is a bucket full of salt water, a good
detergent that bubbles up in salt water and bleach. Hand scrubbing some
shorts and t-shirts takes little time and one hand-rinse with fresh water
will rid them of salt residue so they dry properly. Drying them in the wind
and sun takes less than a half hour.


As I previously posted, you demonstrate your ignorance of the Real
Cruising lifestyle yet again. the Real Cruiser, i.e., one who actually
makes cruises, rather then an aborted "voyage" around the harbour -
assuming that the wind isn't blowing too strong and nor to lightly -
by necessity requires more then your "minimal clothing".

Say a "cruise" from Singapore to Japan and onward through the
Aleutians, Alaska and onward, ultimately to Mexico and then through
the Canal to the Caribbean, north to Canada and so finally to England
and eventually returned to Asia.

A Cruise made by a personal friend with his 36 ft. steel hull sloop,
over the past few years.

So Willie-boy, all your so called Sailorman experience is somewhat
lacking in both scope, and distance.

Instead, some so-called sailors load their boats up with all sorts of
lubberly crap that requires lubberly amount of energy and I'm convinced they
do so because they really are AFRAID to sail and live the sailing life so
they sail a house, apartment or condo instead.

And for what periods have you lived the "sailing life"? Was it last
Sunday when you planned the "cruise' around the bay.... and aborted
because the wind wasn't blowing the correct velocity for your
tastes.... I wonder what you'd do if you made a real voyage and hit a
period of little wind when half way from Langkawi to Kochi, say, as
another friend did a year ago?

I wouldn't mind this sort of stupidity except for the fact that it spreads
out from their boats like a giant sewage slick. The noise of generators 24/7
to run all this crap impinges upon the peace, quiet and clean air of
anchorages everywhere. And, these fools actually think they are sailors.
They think they are cool and they actually brag about their selfish and
anti-social activities on Usenet.

Again you exhibit your minimal experience in actually cruising, as
apposed to reading magazines. In the last 15 years I have rarely
anchored in a harbout where there were more then two or three boats
and never... let me repeat that NEVER .... anchored anywhere that I
could even hear a generator.

Ah Willie-boy, perhaps if you would get out into the world you'd
discover what a sailing life style is all about as apposed to your
overheated imagination.

They are disgusting, selfish and ignorant, bothersome losers.


Wilbur Hubbard

Cheers,

Bruce

On Tue, 25 Jan 2011 07:08:43 +0700, Bruce
wrote:



As I previously posted, you demonstrate your ignorance of the Real
Cruising lifestyle yet again. the Real Cruiser, i.e., one who actually
makes cruises, rather then an aborted "voyage" around the harbour -
assuming that the wind isn't blowing too strong and nor to lightly -
by necessity requires more then your "minimal clothing".

Say a "cruise" from Singapore to Japan and onward through the
Aleutians, Alaska and onward, ultimately to Mexico and then through
the Canal to the Caribbean, north to Canada and so finally to England
and eventually returned to Asia.

A Cruise made by a personal friend with his 36 ft. steel hull sloop,
over the past few years.


Have you heard anything from Peter recently?
The coffee lover from Sydney.
I miss his conversation.
As I recall, he made some lengthy cruises and was about to cruise to
the Caribbean.
Hope he's doing well.
If you're in contact with him, please pass along my good wishes.

--Vic

"Bruce" wrote in message
...
trim

Why don't YOU learn how to trim, Bruce?

As I previously posted, you demonstrate your ignorance of the Real
Cruising lifestyle yet again. the Real Cruiser, i.e., one who actually
makes cruises, rather then an aborted "voyage" around the harbour -
assuming that the wind isn't blowing too strong and nor to lightly -
by necessity requires more then your "minimal clothing".

Cruising is cruising. It is not defined by length of passage or time at
anchor. I think you are confusing cruising with voyaging. Probably because
you aren't intimately familiar with either. LOL!

Say a "cruise" from Singapore to Japan and onward through the
Aleutians, Alaska and onward, ultimately to Mexico and then through
the Canal to the Caribbean, north to Canada and so finally to England
and eventually returned to Asia.

Sounds like a voyage to me. . . Voyaging is going from a to b to c to d,
etc. Cruising is more often going from a to b to a, etc.

A Cruise made by a personal friend with his 36 ft. steel hull sloop,
over the past few years.

That's a voyage, PUTZ!

So Willie-boy, all your so called Sailorman experience is somewhat
lacking in both scope, and distance.

Says the ladyboy expert whose idea of "around the world" is some
sordid,transgendered sexcapade. LOL! Everybody knows why you remain in
Thailand, d00d!


And for what periods have you lived the "sailing life"? Was it last
Sunday when you planned the "cruise' around the bay.... and aborted
because the wind wasn't blowing the correct velocity for your
tastes.... I wonder what you'd do if you made a real voyage and hit a
period of little wind when half way from Langkawi to Kochi, say, as
another friend did a year ago?


Finally, you said it right. "A real voyage." Hey, I never claimed to be a
voyager as I've always said that crap is boring beyond belief and an
undesirable way to sail. The challenge of sailing is not isolation thousands
of miles from civilization but, rather, sailing along the fringes of
civililzation taking and leaving it as is one's heartfelt desire. It's not
being controlled and harassed by foreign bureaucrats and their dumb
restrictions, graft and corruption.

Again you exhibit your minimal experience in actually cruising, as
apposed to reading magazines. In the last 15 years I have rarely
anchored in a harbout where there were more then two or three boats
and never... let me repeat that NEVER .... anchored anywhere that I
could even hear a generator.


I don't read the 'tales of inept woe' magazines any more. I've had my fill
of them since they regularly portray sailing as some bumbleing cluster****
as the norm. Take Joe, for example. His tale of ineptitude and woe is
exactly the thing one would see in the sailing magazines. And, NEVER would
there be one word about WHY the ineptitude caused the entire embarrassing
and unnecessary scenario.


Ah Willie-boy, perhaps if you would get out into the world you'd
discover what a sailing life style is all about as apposed to your
overheated imagination.


If I have an overheated imagination lately it's probably because of
JessicaB. That girl is about as perfect as any I've run across in decades.
She has little or no trouble seeing you pretenders for what you are. That
alone makes her highly discriminating and ultimately desirable. If only I
were about 25-30 years younger I'd have to seriously pursue her.


Wilbur Hubbard

On Mon, 24 Jan 2011 10:15:48 -0500, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote:

"Jessica B" wrote in message
.. .
On Sun, 23 Jan 2011 17:48:35 -0600, CaveLamb
wrote:

I'm guessing that on a two or three year cruise it might be nice to
processionally have clean clothes.

But that's just me. YMMV?


Steve Lusardi wrote:
Jessica,
I hate laundermats. I have a washer and dryer on my boat. They are very
useful. Here is a tip, never use a belt drive model. They throw the belt
off when sailing.
Steve

"Jessica B" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 22 Jan 2011 22:18:51 -0600, CaveLamb
wrote:



What do you think, Wilbur?
Would this one do?

Cannibal
http://www.sailingtexas.com/scustom54100.html

Wow... pretty boat, but isn't it a pain to get in an out from where
the big wheel is? Seems like they could have made it simpler.

A washer/dryer on a sailboat??? That's weird!
--

47 is special


Doesn't the boat ever stop somewhere? Seems like all you have to do is
pull in somewhere and deal with it.

What happens in the middle of the ocean? You're going to do laundry in
your bring-along system? Seems at odds with sailing some how.



I can't help loving your sensible attitude.

Thanks! I've been accused of that before.

You are 100% correct. Some of these lubbers don't know what sailing's all
about, even when they've abused (as opposed to used) a sailboat for years.
Some, like those who carry shoreside-type washer/driers and run them when
sailing (or when anchored) are just plain pathetic.

Seems like you couldn't do much if it's running either... just sit
there an listen to the noise. Gross. What's the point.

When sailing one needs minimal clothing. To wash that clothing, when
necessary, all that's needed is a bucket full of salt water, a good
detergent that bubbles up in salt water and bleach. Hand scrubbing some
shorts and t-shirts takes little time and one hand-rinse with fresh water
will rid them of salt residue so they dry properly. Drying them in the wind
and sun takes less than a half hour.

Well, I guess that depends on the temperature. I'd want layers if
things were cold, but in warm weather, just shorts and a t top. Do you
make your guests wear shoes? My friend told me he does so nobody
breaks toes. I hate wearing shoes if I don't have to. Sorry if that
bursts your bubble, but I'm not a high-heels sort of person. I mean I
can, but I just don't.

Instead, some so-called sailors load their boats up with all sorts of
lubberly crap that requires lubberly amount of energy and I'm convinced they
do so because they really are AFRAID to sail and live the sailing life so
they sail a house, apartment or condo instead.

I wouldn't mind this sort of stupidity except for the fact that it spreads
out from their boats like a giant sewage slick. The noise of generators 24/7
to run all this crap impinges upon the peace, quiet and clean air of
anchorages everywhere. And, these fools actually think they are sailors.
They think they are cool and they actually brag about their selfish and
anti-social activities on Usenet.

Yeah, yeah! That's what I was thinking... all that noise. I sure as
heck don't want to listen to something running while I'm sipping my
daiquiri.

They are disgusting, selfish and ignorant, bothersome losers.

Sounds like you've had your run-ins with them. It must be nice if you
can find a quiet spot.

"Jessica B" wrote in message
...
snipped some

I can't help loving your sensible attitude.

Thanks! I've been accused of that before.

You're a rare type these days. . .


You are 100% correct. Some of these lubbers don't know what sailing's all
about, even when they've abused (as opposed to used) a sailboat for years.
Some, like those who carry shoreside-type washer/driers and run them when
sailing (or when anchored) are just plain pathetic.

Seems like you couldn't do much if it's running either... just sit
there an listen to the noise. Gross. What's the point.

I guess the point is these lubbers who pretend to be sailors are actually
comforted by having familiar household appliances running. I suppose it
relieves the tension the feel on a boat so they use it as a security blanket
of sorts.
I don't know if you've spent any time in or around boats but very ludicrous
is when so-called sailors become all insecure in any kind of moderate to
heavy winds so what do they do? They start up the diesel and keep it running
on 'standby'. Talk about Binky city. LOL!

When sailing one needs minimal clothing. To wash that clothing, when
necessary, all that's needed is a bucket full of salt water, a good
detergent that bubbles up in salt water and bleach. Hand scrubbing some
shorts and t-shirts takes little time and one hand-rinse with fresh water
will rid them of salt residue so they dry properly. Drying them in the
wind
and sun takes less than a half hour.

Well, I guess that depends on the temperature. I'd want layers if
things were cold, but in warm weather, just shorts and a t top. Do you
make your guests wear shoes? My friend told me he does so nobody
breaks toes. I hate wearing shoes if I don't have to. Sorry if that
bursts your bubble, but I'm not a high-heels sort of person. I mean I
can, but I just don't.

I suppose I'm spoiled here in southern Florida. It gets a little chilly from
time to time in the winter but most of the year it's shorts, sandals and
t-shirt time. Shoes are for the land. I don't allow cigarette smoking aboard
nor do I allow shoes worn. Nothing beats bare feet. If one is so clumsy that
they stub a toe then I say, "TOUGH." So no bubble busted. Actually any
enclosed footwear is bad for the feet. Makes a great environment for smelly
bacteria and hungry fungus.


Instead, some so-called sailors load their boats up with all sorts of
lubberly crap that requires lubberly amount of energy and I'm convinced
they
do so because they really are AFRAID to sail and live the sailing life so
they sail a house, apartment or condo instead.

I wouldn't mind this sort of stupidity except for the fact that it spreads
out from their boats like a giant sewage slick. The noise of generators
24/7
to run all this crap impinges upon the peace, quiet and clean air of
anchorages everywhere. And, these fools actually think they are sailors.
They think they are cool and they actually brag about their selfish and
anti-social activities on Usenet.

Yeah, yeah! That's what I was thinking... all that noise. I sure as
heck don't want to listen to something running while I'm sipping my
daiquiri.

You are so well-grounded. Why can't everybody be a little less selfish and a
little more concerned about peace and quiet - especially in an anchorage.
Are they so stupid and/or rude that they think their individual noise has
greater rights than others peace and quiet. Just who are these people who
are so self-centered and arrogant? Not only do they make noise but they
pollute the atmosphere doing it. Any boat downwind from a diesel motor
running will be forced to breathe dangerous and obnoxious fumes. How rude is
THAT?

Your sipping a daiquiri bothers nobody at all while making noise and running
smelly generators bothers EVERYBODY. The really sad thing is real sailors
don't do that kind of crap - it's just the pretenders doing it and ruining
an anchorage for everybody. I just wish these cretins would buy an RV and
stay ashore. They really are nothing but trailer park trash cum marina trash
cum pretend sailor. "Hey lookit meeeee!" types.


They are disgusting, selfish and ignorant, bothersome losers.

Sounds like you've had your run-ins with them. It must be nice if you
can find a quiet spot.

Believe me I have. I get settled into a nice quiet anchorage by
mid-afternoon and around sunset here comes the obnoxious twits who come
motoring in, anchor directly upwind of me, the only other boat in the
anchorage, and about three boat lengths away. Do they think I love company
so much that I need a close neighbor? They anchor by committee which is the
moron at the helm yelling at the top of his lungs at the poor wife at the
bow dealing with the anchor. Then they don't even back down on the anchor.
They just drop it with about twenty feet of chain lying right on top of it.
Then they jump in the inflatable with the 25 HP outboard, they coax in the
barking dog. Then off they roar making a big wake. Then they come back after
the dog has shat on somebody's lawn with bags of groceries and cases of beer
and then they proceed to play loud music and get drunk and holler and scream
until about 2 o'clock in the morning. This is what sailing has come to and
most of the imbeciles here in this group actually defend that kind of
behavior because they, themselves, regularly engage in it.

It's a truly sad state of affairs.

Wilbur Hubbard