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On Fri, 28 Jan 2011 10:55:55 -0500, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote: "Bruce" wrote in message .. . On Thu, 27 Jan 2011 23:43:31 -0600, CaveLamb wrote: Jessica B wrote: On Thu, 27 Jan 2011 21:20:12 -0600, CaveLamb wrote: Jessica B wrote: On Fri, 28 Jan 2011 08:47:36 +0700, Bruce wrote: On Thu, 27 Jan 2011 11:39:35 -0500, "Wilbur Hubbard" wrote: "Bruce" wrote in message ... snippage Given that I have lived for more than half of my life in Asia I wonder where you came up with your misconception that I ever intended to go further. You expect me to believe your goal was a Bangkok backwater? Yah, right! But of course you don't have misconceptions you simply make it up, unfortunately your blathering is simply "ignorance in action'. Wilbur: The proper length for your dinghy oars is short enough to fit inside the boat. ONE of the attributes of a proper-length dinghy oar is that it fits into the length of the dinghy. Get a clue and stop twisting my words. I hadn't believed that you were actually as stupid as you just proved yourself. I guess that proves that you should never underrate your opponents abilities. The "attribute" of an oar is that it reaches the water..... (Oars originated for, and are still used today, as a devise to propel a boat (through the water). Certainly it may have other attributes such as weight, shape of blade, material of which it is made, etc, but fitting inside the boat is not one of them. Your argument is about as logical as saying that the mast should not be longer then the length of the cockpit....because that is where you want to keep it when you aren't using the sails. Cheers, Bruce Ok... dumb question time... if the oar doesn't fit in the boat, what the heck do you do with it when you're done using it? If you just leave it hanging out, it seems to me it would get torn off or damaged. Mine are in the oar bag. Ok.. so, what happens when you get to the beach or where you're going? Seems to me that you'd want to keep them in the boat and not sticking out? Why does a couple of feet of oar sticking out of the boat matter? Best to lay them lengthwise and sticking out the bow. that way when you go visiting they sort of fend your dinghy off that hard ol' fiberglass. Cheers, Bruce Wrong again, Brucie Poo. I'll repeat a previous post lest you ignore the original which proves you to be a pretend sailor. Do you know of the highly-respected cruising sailor named Eric Hiscock? Certainly, you would have to admit that Sir Eric knew a thing or two about dinghies and dinghy oars. Here is what he had to say about them in "Cruising Under Sail" page 498: "Oars ought to be as long as possible, provided they will lie within the dinghy when not in use . . ." Now, run along and attempt to impress the ignorant dock types and bar types because you fail to impress those of us who actually sail and remain sober enough to think straight. Wilbur Hubbard Sir Eric may well have said/written that, however, given that Hiscock was writing in an earlier time ("Wandering Under Sail" -1939) and who died in 1986 I suggest that he was not writing about a rubber dinghy which is a far different design from the small rowing boat that was likely what Hiscock had experience with. Now go and ask anyone who rows a boat on a daily basis. They will simply laugh at you and row away as you have just exposed yourself as yet another Sunday Sailor who (in spite of having read Hiscock) still knows nothing of boats. Just another example of your real knowledge about boats and sailing. Cheers, Bruce |
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On Fri, 28 Jan 2011 10:43:26 -0500, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote: "Bruce" wrote in message .. . On Thu, 27 Jan 2011 11:39:35 -0500, "Wilbur Hubbard" wrote: "Bruce" wrote in message ... snippage Given that I have lived for more than half of my life in Asia I wonder where you came up with your misconception that I ever intended to go further. You expect me to believe your goal was a Bangkok backwater? Yah, right! But of course you don't have misconceptions you simply make it up, unfortunately your blathering is simply "ignorance in action'. Wilbur: The proper length for your dinghy oars is short enough to fit inside the boat. ONE of the attributes of a proper-length dinghy oar is that it fits into the length of the dinghy. Get a clue and stop twisting my words. I hadn't believed that you were actually as stupid as you just proved yourself. I guess that proves that you should never underrate your opponents abilities. The "attribute" of an oar is that it reaches the water..... (Oars originated for, and are still used today, as a devise to propel a boat (through the water). Certainly it may have other attributes such as weight, shape of blade, material of which it is made, etc, but fitting inside the boat is not one of them. Your argument is about as logical as saying that the mast should not be longer then the length of the cockpit....because that is where you want to keep it when you aren't using the sails. Cheers, Bruce OK, Brucie-poo, you just are not the authority you seem to think you are and you are definitely ill-informed as to the matter of length of oar. Do you know of the highly-respected cruising sailor named Eric Hiscock? Certainly, you would have to admit that Sir Eric knows a thing or two about dinghies and dinghy oars. Here is what he has to say about them in "Cruising Under Sail" page 498: "Oars ought to be as long as possible, provided they will lie within the dinghy when not in use . . ." Uh huh! Just as I said. There, take THAT and ruminate upon your abject ignorance and laughable arrogance. Wilbur Hubbard I think you are repeating yourself as I just answered your first message on that subject. Cheers, Bruce |
#123
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On Fri, 28 Jan 2011 10:52:09 -0500, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote: "CaveLamb" wrote in message ... snip Why does a couple of feet of oar sticking out of the boat matter? Spoken like a clueless dolt! An oar or oars sticking out of a dinghy can catch under the dinghy dock on a rising tide and capsize the boat. Duh! Just one of the many hazards that are eliminated with oars that fit inside the length of the dinghy. Perhaps some of you pretend sailors need to sail once in a while to learn how things really go down? Wilbur Hubbard Dinghy Dock? And you've spent all this time nattering on about Marinas and now you admit to anchoring off to avoid paying dockage and then sneaking into the dinghy dock?? Cheers, Bruce |
#124
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On Fri, 28 Jan 2011 12:50:15 -0500, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote: "Jessica B" wrote in message .. . snip Actually, it's even better than that. His boss and I are sort of lunch buddies going on a couple of years... it's kind of a long story, but the short version is that I was on this commercial inspection project in full "inspector" regalia (hard hat, gloves, steel-toe boots - all of which were required, but I rarely go on these sites any more).. anyway.. he ran over my foot in the dirt lot (no damage, just some bruising) and he's still feels bad about it. I didn't go on workers comp, which meant I didn't have to fill out a report, so you get it. So, we're having lunch and I mention about stickers on vehicles... isn't that against policy? Well, no, it isn't as long as it's tasteful. So, I said, would it be ok if I put a Support our Troops on the bumper... no problem. It's going on tomorrow. I love it! So, what are you going to say to your boss then he tries to write you up for putting the sticker back on? "You'd better talk to YOUR boss because he told me it was OK." That'll larn him! It was perfect. I actually just walked in there before I left (leave at 3pm), and sort of casually said, hey about that sticker thing... I was talking to Greg and he seemed ok with it, but I can remove it if you really think it's a problem. So, he says, oh yeah, Greg said something to me about the (his Mystery Spot) sticker, but didn't say to take it off. So I guess just don't worry about it. (I don't think anyone complained. I think he just had a hair up his butt about something and I happened to be there.) snipped some more Blinky? I've not heard that term... for a Ham radio?? That's "Binky". You know one of those little fake nipples mothers let their babies suck on so they don't cry. http://www.drugstore.com/products/pr...ELAID=61283337 Ah.. ok. Never heard it called that. No kids and I limit my time with my nieces. snip Funny that you mentioned the flat-screened TVs. You'd be surprised at how often a discussion of flat-screened TVs comes up here. It's so ludicrous reading so-called sailors REAL priorities - television. Some of them even have satellite receivers aboard. All the more reason for them to run smelly and noisy generators multiple hours each and every day. Anything but sailing yet they claim to be sailors. Yeah, I just don't get it. There are so many things to see and do... how about some real life! Don't hold your breath . . . They don't call them 'sheeple' for nothing. I didn't even have to say PMS! They just assumed. But, you can only get away with it once a month provided they have halfway decent memories. ;-) That's true, but that "once a month" could be a week! I know some girls who would remove said pound of flesh if someone looks at them the wrong way. We do good things most of the time. The commercial people mostly get it. Don't f*ck with me or your life will be a living hell. (Actually, they seem to listen to me more than the residential customers.) The residential ones think they know everything! I had one a couple of weeks ago.. a diy job. The guy hooked up furness fine, but never attached the ducting that goes from the air intake to the unit... a good inch gap - so it was sucking in air from God knows where, so the chief red-flagged it. I found it, so I got "blamed" by the customer. I said, hey, would you like me to look around for some more things? You should get yourself a nice pair of black, shiney jackboots and a riding crop - really intimidate them. LOL! Heh... Well, I prefer to go down the easy road first. I don't need the stress. I mean if they want to blow up their house, all their possessions, kids, wife, car... fine with me, as long as I told em and wrote it down. Three... whoa! It must take a lot to bring up the big ones... even just 10 ft. of chain isn't light. Even with the chain they only weigh about 35 pounds each. That's not much really. Breaking them out of the bottom, if the holding is good, is the most work but usually the boat does all that work. Just snub up the chain until it's straight up and down and let a few waves roll under the hull and the boat pulls the anchor out of the mud or sand. Well, heck! Even I can lift 35 lbs! Snub? Ok... like shorten it, so you're pulling until you're right over it. Got it. The guy with the Catalina had this monster-looking anchor, but we didn't use it. The eyes bigger than their stomach crowd with their forty and fifty foot boats must use anchors bigger and heavier than they can manually weigh - fifty or sixty pound anchors and lots of heavy chain - so they are forced to use windlasses which use electricity to pull up the ground tackle. These use tons of electricity and are very heavy and require heavy wire because of the high amperage loads. So, where does all that electricity come from? You guessed it, it comes from smelly, pollution machine diesels generating electricity at all hours. Overly large sailboats are really stupid, IMO. Any time a boat is so large that one strong man cannot manually work the various systems, it tells me it's an exercise in mental retardation on behalf of the owner. Yes... I think he had all of it chain or well all I could see. It went into a hatch, so I don't know. There was definitely chain though. |
#125
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On Fri, 28 Jan 2011 13:12:37 -0500, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote: "Bruce" wrote in message .. . snip This from a bloke that brags a photo of himself sitting in a tiny boat petting a pussy? A kitty cat is a proper addition to a sailing yacht as they will eliminate any mouse or rat that might come aboard from who knows where. there is room for you, and a rat, on the yellow dinghy? With pretensions of being a political pundit now? Truly the land of the fruits and the nuts. I have always represented a voice of conservative reason. As for being a sailor both Joe and I have at least some reason to call ourselves a "sailor" as we have both sailed somewhere. Willie-the Poo, conversely, has never sailed anywhere and rates himself an expert. Wrong! Both of you are demonstrable failures. Only in your liberal minds, where trying is more important than succeeding, can you fool yourselves into believing that, since you tried, then your failures are secondary. Talk about a warped way of thinking. In the real world, trying is something everybody must do. Trying is not the goal but only represents the first step towards the goal. If one falls down after the first step one should not pat himself on the back and say, "Oh well, that didn't go so well but I'm successful at walking because I tried." WRONG! If one falls down after the first step, one should say, "Well, I'm sure a failure at that. But, I can learn from failing so what have I learned so the next step I take doesn't result in failure all over again?" Errr, Willie, I'm here in Thailand, and you are still anchored in Florida? And somehow this indicates that you are the sailorman and I'm not..... Something wrong with your logic I'm afraid. You and Joe, being liberal drones, don't think this way. You equate trying with success. You have set the bar way too low and will always remain failures because of your liberal thinking that try = success. You are incapable of learning from failure because you don't and won't man up to your failures. Such an untenable belief system. I just couldn't live like that. Liberal drones? what ever gave you that idea? I certainly would like to see your evidence to support that statement.. Or did you read it in a book? Wilbur Hubbard Cheers, Bruce |
#126
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On Fri, 28 Jan 2011 13:12:37 -0500, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote: "Bruce" wrote in message .. . snip This from a bloke that brags a photo of himself sitting in a tiny boat petting a pussy? A kitty cat is a proper addition to a sailing yacht as they will eliminate any mouse or rat that might come aboard from who knows where. Do you have a kitty?! I love cats, but don't have any pets right now. With pretensions of being a political pundit now? Truly the land of the fruits and the nuts. I have always represented a voice of conservative reason. I think if you left off the word conservative, you would have said it all. Seriously though... I just don't get this liberal nonsense, especially what goes on in a place like this. How about some reasoned approach to finance?? Hello? As for being a sailor both Joe and I have at least some reason to call ourselves a "sailor" as we have both sailed somewhere. Willie-the Poo, conversely, has never sailed anywhere and rates himself an expert. Wrong! Both of you are demonstrable failures. Only in your liberal minds, where trying is more important than succeeding, can you fool yourselves into believing that, since you tried, then your failures are secondary. Talk about a warped way of thinking. In the real world, trying is something everybody must do. Trying is not the goal but only represents the first step towards the goal. If one falls down after the first step one should not pat himself on the back and say, "Oh well, that didn't go so well but I'm successful at walking because I tried." WRONG! If one falls down after the first step, one should say, "Well, I'm sure a failure at that. But, I can learn from failing so what have I learned so the next step I take doesn't result in failure all over again?" You got a get back up and try again. That's my experience anyway. You and Joe, being liberal drones, don't think this way. You equate trying with success. You have set the bar way too low and will always remain failures because of your liberal thinking that try = success. You are incapable of learning from failure because you don't and won't man up to your failures. Such an untenable belief system. I just couldn't live like that. Wilbur Hubbard |
#127
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On Fri, 28 Jan 2011 18:33:07 +0700, Bruce
wrote: rOn Thu, 27 Jan 2011 18:35:45 -0800, Jessica B wrote: On Fri, 28 Jan 2011 08:34:52 +0700, Bruce wrote: On Thu, 27 Jan 2011 11:39:35 -0500, "Wilbur Hubbard" wrote: "Bruce" wrote in message m... snippage Given that I have lived for more than half of my life in Asia I wonder where you came up with your misconception that I ever intended to go further. You expect me to believe your goal was a Bangkok backwater? Yah, right! But of course you don't have misconceptions you simply make it up, unfortunately your blathering is simply "ignorance in action'. Wilbur: The proper length for your dinghy oars is short enough to fit inside the boat. ONE of the attributes of a proper-length dinghy oar is that it fits into the length of the dinghy. Get a clue and stop twisting my words. snip And, whatever happened to your kill file? It seems to have as many holes in it as "Red Cloud's" transom. LOL! Wilbur Hubbard AS I previously mentioned, Willie doesn't have a clue and simply makes things up. I do not keep a boat in Bangkok (Willie (the master mariner obviously thinks "Bangkok" is a country), never have. The boat is presently located at Phuket Island, Thailand. Previously it was at Langkawi Island, Kedeh, Malaysia, and before that in the Singapore Straits, where I anchored for three years. I could regress even more but why bother as Willie-the master mariner has never been over here, knows nothing about it, and I might as well be writing Bucuresti, Trieste, or Vladivostok for all he knows. Cheers, Bruce Please don't regress! I think you mean digress. regress ~ noun rare 1. the reasoning involved when you assume the conclusion is true and reason backward to the evidence. Cheers, Bruce That's probably the reason it sounded so, ummm... foolish. |
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On Fri, 28 Jan 2011 13:17:17 -0500, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote: "Bruce" wrote in message news snip And you certainly should know - Willie-the great Walmart Thief. Urban legend. Returning defective storage batteries for warranty exchange is not theft. Wilbur Hubbard Nope. Referring your Internet posted, detailed, instructions about stealing a bottle of booze from Walmart.... You have a very selective memory. Cheers, Bruce |
#129
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On Thu, 27 Jan 2011 23:43:31 -0600, CaveLamb
wrote: Jessica B wrote: On Thu, 27 Jan 2011 21:20:12 -0600, CaveLamb wrote: Jessica B wrote: On Fri, 28 Jan 2011 08:47:36 +0700, Bruce wrote: On Thu, 27 Jan 2011 11:39:35 -0500, "Wilbur Hubbard" wrote: "Bruce" wrote in message ... snippage Given that I have lived for more than half of my life in Asia I wonder where you came up with your misconception that I ever intended to go further. You expect me to believe your goal was a Bangkok backwater? Yah, right! But of course you don't have misconceptions you simply make it up, unfortunately your blathering is simply "ignorance in action'. Wilbur: The proper length for your dinghy oars is short enough to fit inside the boat. ONE of the attributes of a proper-length dinghy oar is that it fits into the length of the dinghy. Get a clue and stop twisting my words. I hadn't believed that you were actually as stupid as you just proved yourself. I guess that proves that you should never underrate your opponents abilities. The "attribute" of an oar is that it reaches the water..... (Oars originated for, and are still used today, as a devise to propel a boat (through the water). Certainly it may have other attributes such as weight, shape of blade, material of which it is made, etc, but fitting inside the boat is not one of them. Your argument is about as logical as saying that the mast should not be longer then the length of the cockpit....because that is where you want to keep it when you aren't using the sails. Cheers, Bruce Ok... dumb question time... if the oar doesn't fit in the boat, what the heck do you do with it when you're done using it? If you just leave it hanging out, it seems to me it would get torn off or damaged. Mine are in the oar bag. Ok.. so, what happens when you get to the beach or where you're going? Seems to me that you'd want to keep them in the boat and not sticking out? Why does a couple of feet of oar sticking out of the boat matter? Well, someone could get snagged on it or it could get snagged on something. Do you really need that extra couple of feet to power up? |
#130
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On Fri, 28 Jan 2011 10:52:09 -0500, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote: "CaveLamb" wrote in message ... snip Why does a couple of feet of oar sticking out of the boat matter? Spoken like a clueless dolt! An oar or oars sticking out of a dinghy can catch under the dinghy dock on a rising tide and capsize the boat. Duh! Just one of the many hazards that are eliminated with oars that fit inside the length of the dinghy. Perhaps some of you pretend sailors need to sail once in a while to learn how things really go down? Wilbur Hubbard Or, even just scratch the sides... You could put fenders to protect the boat from the dinghy, but they wouldn't protect it from the oars. They might even get broken off. |
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