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How is that Tohatsu workign out
Wilbur?
I'm thinking of upgrading from my 90's 6hp Johnson for a 4 stroke and the 6hp Sailpro from Defender is $1299. This is a great price compared to the other manufacturers so just wondering how you like yours? |
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ng.com... Wilbur? I'm thinking of upgrading from my 90's 6hp Johnson for a 4 stroke and the 6hp Sailpro from Defender is $1299. This is a great price compared to the other manufacturers so just wondering how you like yours? That IS a great price. My source is selling them at $1430 with free shipping. If you pay shipping from Defender the cost might be 80 bucks or so depending where you live. http://www.onlineoutboards.com/Tohat...p-MFS6BUL.html The motor is working out great for me. I think it's finally broken in and it has lots of power for its size. I'm quite impressed. I can't believe the gas mileage. It's work just trying to burn through the 3.5 gallon tank. It seems to last forever. But, I motor less than most people so that might have something to do with it. Most recently I motored for about two hours getting from bayside to oceanside through the creek and under the bascule bridge to the yard. It was full when I started and above 3/4 tank when I finished. It starts very easy and it idles smoothly and the complaint about the steering damper not holding it in place seems not to apply to mine. It stays pretty much where I put it using the knob-type steering detent on the rear of the motor and it's not even screwed down very hard. It's about as quiet as the Honda 9.9 was but not quite as smooth being a single cylinder job. But, it's not a noisy vibration machine either. At about half to 3/4 throttle it pushes my 27-footer at 5-6 knots in smooth water. Haven't tried it in any kind of a steep chop but it will probably be adequate to get in and out of channels that present a direct headwind that one cannot sail in. I'd say, go for it. Wilbur Hubbard |
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"Wilbur Hubbard" wrote in message anews.com... "MMC" wrote in message ng.com... Wilbur? I'm thinking of upgrading from my 90's 6hp Johnson for a 4 stroke and the 6hp Sailpro from Defender is $1299. This is a great price compared to the other manufacturers so just wondering how you like yours? That IS a great price. My source is selling them at $1430 with free shipping. If you pay shipping from Defender the cost might be 80 bucks or so depending where you live. http://www.onlineoutboards.com/Tohat...p-MFS6BUL.html The motor is working out great for me. I think it's finally broken in and it has lots of power for its size. I'm quite impressed. I can't believe the gas mileage. It's work just trying to burn through the 3.5 gallon tank. It seems to last forever. But, I motor less than most people so that might have something to do with it. Most recently I motored for about two hours getting from bayside to oceanside through the creek and under the bascule bridge to the yard. It was full when I started and above 3/4 tank when I finished. It starts very easy and it idles smoothly and the complaint about the steering damper not holding it in place seems not to apply to mine. It stays pretty much where I put it using the knob-type steering detent on the rear of the motor and it's not even screwed down very hard. It's about as quiet as the Honda 9.9 was but not quite as smooth being a single cylinder job. But, it's not a noisy vibration machine either. At about half to 3/4 throttle it pushes my 27-footer at 5-6 knots in smooth water. Haven't tried it in any kind of a steep chop but it will probably be adequate to get in and out of channels that present a direct headwind that one cannot sail in. I'd say, go for it. Wilbur Hubbard ===== Thanks Wilbur. Is there any problem with keeping these (I don't know 4 strokes) motors tilted out of the water when not in use? Particularly with the oil being in a pan? My Morgan has a cut out in the center of the transom for the outboard like the second pic in this ad: http://www.sailingtexas.com/smorgan25101.html |
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On 02/01/2011 03:00, MMC wrote:
"Wilbur Hubbard" wrote in message anews.com... ............ It starts very easy and it idles smoothly and the complaint about the steering damper not holding it in place seems not to apply to mine. It stays pretty much where I put it using the knob-type steering detent on the rear of the motor and it's not even screwed down very hard. ........ The steering damper looks like this: http://www.wareing77.plus.com/images/IMGP0229.JPG It works in a similar way to a hose clip. A stainlees steel band is tensioned around a shaft by tightening up on the threaded part while the other end is a tab located in a slot in the casting, next to the screw hole. In my case the thread bottomed out before it was tight enough to avoid creaping when idling. Possible causes are too much grease. band too long compared to the circumference of the shaft, or overtightening by myself. I have just bent the tab a little and it seems to have improved.. Wilbur Hubbard ===== Thanks Wilbur. Is there any problem with keeping these (I don't know 4 strokes) motors tilted out of the water when not in use? Particularly with the oil being in a pan? My Morgan has a cut out in the center of the transom for the outboard like the second pic in this ad: http://www.sailingtexas.com/smorgan25101.html When stored horizontal you are supposed to turn it so the gear lever is uppermost, it does not say why. Probably not an issue when just tilted on the boat. |
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"MMC" wrote in message
g.com... "Wilbur Hubbard" wrote in message anews.com... "MMC" wrote in message ng.com... Wilbur? I'm thinking of upgrading from my 90's 6hp Johnson for a 4 stroke and the 6hp Sailpro from Defender is $1299. This is a great price compared to the other manufacturers so just wondering how you like yours? That IS a great price. My source is selling them at $1430 with free shipping. If you pay shipping from Defender the cost might be 80 bucks or so depending where you live. http://www.onlineoutboards.com/Tohat...p-MFS6BUL.html The motor is working out great for me. I think it's finally broken in and it has lots of power for its size. I'm quite impressed. I can't believe the gas mileage. It's work just trying to burn through the 3.5 gallon tank. It seems to last forever. But, I motor less than most people so that might have something to do with it. Most recently I motored for about two hours getting from bayside to oceanside through the creek and under the bascule bridge to the yard. It was full when I started and above 3/4 tank when I finished. It starts very easy and it idles smoothly and the complaint about the steering damper not holding it in place seems not to apply to mine. It stays pretty much where I put it using the knob-type steering detent on the rear of the motor and it's not even screwed down very hard. It's about as quiet as the Honda 9.9 was but not quite as smooth being a single cylinder job. But, it's not a noisy vibration machine either. At about half to 3/4 throttle it pushes my 27-footer at 5-6 knots in smooth water. Haven't tried it in any kind of a steep chop but it will probably be adequate to get in and out of channels that present a direct headwind that one cannot sail in. I'd say, go for it. Wilbur Hubbard ===== Thanks Wilbur. Is there any problem with keeping these (I don't know 4 strokes) motors tilted out of the water when not in use? Particularly with the oil being in a pan? My Morgan has a cut out in the center of the transom for the outboard like the second pic in this ad: http://www.sailingtexas.com/smorgan25101.html That's the same arrangement my Coronado 27 has. The motor tilts up plenty far enough to keep the foot/prop well out of the water. I think I've got about six inches between the lowest part of the skeg and the water. Don't worry about the oil. I think it uses a dry sump system and only uses half a quart and no oil comes out anywhere when fully tilted up. It even has an small charging coil/rectifier that puts out five or six amps at 12vdc for running lights and/or minimal battery charging. I didn't hook up my wires because I use photovoltaics but at least that option is available. You're gonna love the four-stroke. It doesn't smoke and it's so nice to use gasoline without oil mixed. I've been using mid-grade fuel, btw. Wilbur Hubbard |
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"goofball_star_dot_etal" wrote in message
o.uk... On 02/01/2011 03:00, MMC wrote: "Wilbur Hubbard" wrote in message anews.com... ........... It starts very easy and it idles smoothly and the complaint about the steering damper not holding it in place seems not to apply to mine. It stays pretty much where I put it using the knob-type steering detent on the rear of the motor and it's not even screwed down very hard. ....... The steering damper looks like this: http://www.wareing77.plus.com/images/IMGP0229.JPG It works in a similar way to a hose clip. A stainlees steel band is tensioned around a shaft by tightening up on the threaded part while the other end is a tab located in a slot in the casting, next to the screw hole. In my case the thread bottomed out before it was tight enough to avoid creaping when idling. Possible causes are too much grease. band too long compared to the circumference of the shaft, or overtightening by myself. I have just bent the tab a little and it seems to have improved.. Wilbur Hubbard ===== Thanks Wilbur. Is there any problem with keeping these (I don't know 4 strokes) motors tilted out of the water when not in use? Particularly with the oil being in a pan? My Morgan has a cut out in the center of the transom for the outboard like the second pic in this ad: http://www.sailingtexas.com/smorgan25101.html When stored horizontal you are supposed to turn it so the gear lever is uppermost, it does not say why. Probably not an issue when just tilted on the boat. Thanks for the revealing photo. I think your 'too much grease' hypothesis is probably spot on. For that very reason I did not grease my zerk fittings at all believing they probably put what was needed in at the factory. Seems to me no grease at all around the circumference of the detent sleeve would be the best way to maintain the adequate friction so it didn't twist on its own. -- Gregory Hall |
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On 02/01/2011 17:11, Wilbur Hubbard wrote:
w wrote in message o.uk... On 02/01/2011 03:00, MMC wrote: "Wilbur Hubbard" wrote in message anews.com... ........... It starts very easy and it idles smoothly and the complaint about the steering damper not holding it in place seems not to apply to mine. It stays pretty much where I put it using the knob-type steering detent on the rear of the motor and it's not even screwed down very hard. ....... The steering damper looks like this: http://www.wareing77.plus.com/images/IMGP0229.JPG It works in a similar way to a hose clip. A stainlees steel band is tensioned around a shaft by tightening up on the threaded part while the other end is a tab located in a slot in the casting, next to the screw hole. In my case the thread bottomed out before it was tight enough to avoid creaping when idling. Possible causes are too much grease. band too long compared to the circumference of the shaft, or overtightening by myself. I have just bent the tab a little and it seems to have improved.. Wilbur Hubbard ===== Thanks Wilbur. Is there any problem with keeping these (I don't know 4 strokes) motors tilted out of the water when not in use? Particularly with the oil being in a pan? My Morgan has a cut out in the center of the transom for the outboard like the second pic in this ad: http://www.sailingtexas.com/smorgan25101.html When stored horizontal you are supposed to turn it so the gear lever is uppermost, it does not say why. Probably not an issue when just tilted on the boat. Thanks for the revealing photo. I think your 'too much grease' hypothesis is probably spot on. For that very reason I did not grease my zerk fittings at all believing they probably put what was needed in at the factory. Seems to me no grease at all around the circumference of the detent sleeve would be the best way to maintain the adequate friction so it didn't twist on its own. I have not greased it myself yet. I'm not sure I like the idea of dry stainless on aluminium with salt around, but I might use silcone oil and put some grooves in the band to reduce the Hydrodynamic Pressure(tm). |
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"Wilbur Hubbard" wrote in message anews.com... "MMC" wrote in message g.com... "Wilbur Hubbard" wrote in message anews.com... "MMC" wrote in message ng.com... Wilbur? I'm thinking of upgrading from my 90's 6hp Johnson for a 4 stroke and the 6hp Sailpro from Defender is $1299. This is a great price compared to the other manufacturers so just wondering how you like yours? That IS a great price. My source is selling them at $1430 with free shipping. If you pay shipping from Defender the cost might be 80 bucks or so depending where you live. http://www.onlineoutboards.com/Tohat...p-MFS6BUL.html The motor is working out great for me. I think it's finally broken in and it has lots of power for its size. I'm quite impressed. I can't believe the gas mileage. It's work just trying to burn through the 3.5 gallon tank. It seems to last forever. But, I motor less than most people so that might have something to do with it. Most recently I motored for about two hours getting from bayside to oceanside through the creek and under the bascule bridge to the yard. It was full when I started and above 3/4 tank when I finished. It starts very easy and it idles smoothly and the complaint about the steering damper not holding it in place seems not to apply to mine. It stays pretty much where I put it using the knob-type steering detent on the rear of the motor and it's not even screwed down very hard. It's about as quiet as the Honda 9.9 was but not quite as smooth being a single cylinder job. But, it's not a noisy vibration machine either. At about half to 3/4 throttle it pushes my 27-footer at 5-6 knots in smooth water. Haven't tried it in any kind of a steep chop but it will probably be adequate to get in and out of channels that present a direct headwind that one cannot sail in. I'd say, go for it. Wilbur Hubbard ===== Thanks Wilbur. Is there any problem with keeping these (I don't know 4 strokes) motors tilted out of the water when not in use? Particularly with the oil being in a pan? My Morgan has a cut out in the center of the transom for the outboard like the second pic in this ad: http://www.sailingtexas.com/smorgan25101.html That's the same arrangement my Coronado 27 has. The motor tilts up plenty far enough to keep the foot/prop well out of the water. I think I've got about six inches between the lowest part of the skeg and the water. Don't worry about the oil. I think it uses a dry sump system and only uses half a quart and no oil comes out anywhere when fully tilted up. It even has an small charging coil/rectifier that puts out five or six amps at 12vdc for running lights and/or minimal battery charging. I didn't hook up my wires because I use photovoltaics but at least that option is available. You're gonna love the four-stroke. It doesn't smoke and it's so nice to use gasoline without oil mixed. I've been using mid-grade fuel, btw. Wilbur Hubbard ====== Sounds good to me and I'm really looking forward to lowering the noise in the cockpit. We don't have far to motor from the dock to our sailing grounds but talking over the 2 stroke at all still sucks. Thanks again. |
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"MMC" wrote in message
ng.com... "Wilbur Hubbard" wrote in message anews.com... "MMC" wrote in message g.com... "Wilbur Hubbard" wrote in message anews.com... "MMC" wrote in message ng.com... Wilbur? I'm thinking of upgrading from my 90's 6hp Johnson for a 4 stroke and the 6hp Sailpro from Defender is $1299. This is a great price compared to the other manufacturers so just wondering how you like yours? That IS a great price. My source is selling them at $1430 with free shipping. If you pay shipping from Defender the cost might be 80 bucks or so depending where you live. http://www.onlineoutboards.com/Tohat...p-MFS6BUL.html The motor is working out great for me. I think it's finally broken in and it has lots of power for its size. I'm quite impressed. I can't believe the gas mileage. It's work just trying to burn through the 3.5 gallon tank. It seems to last forever. But, I motor less than most people so that might have something to do with it. Most recently I motored for about two hours getting from bayside to oceanside through the creek and under the bascule bridge to the yard. It was full when I started and above 3/4 tank when I finished. It starts very easy and it idles smoothly and the complaint about the steering damper not holding it in place seems not to apply to mine. It stays pretty much where I put it using the knob-type steering detent on the rear of the motor and it's not even screwed down very hard. It's about as quiet as the Honda 9.9 was but not quite as smooth being a single cylinder job. But, it's not a noisy vibration machine either. At about half to 3/4 throttle it pushes my 27-footer at 5-6 knots in smooth water. Haven't tried it in any kind of a steep chop but it will probably be adequate to get in and out of channels that present a direct headwind that one cannot sail in. I'd say, go for it. Wilbur Hubbard ===== Thanks Wilbur. Is there any problem with keeping these (I don't know 4 strokes) motors tilted out of the water when not in use? Particularly with the oil being in a pan? My Morgan has a cut out in the center of the transom for the outboard like the second pic in this ad: http://www.sailingtexas.com/smorgan25101.html That's the same arrangement my Coronado 27 has. The motor tilts up plenty far enough to keep the foot/prop well out of the water. I think I've got about six inches between the lowest part of the skeg and the water. Don't worry about the oil. I think it uses a dry sump system and only uses half a quart and no oil comes out anywhere when fully tilted up. It even has an small charging coil/rectifier that puts out five or six amps at 12vdc for running lights and/or minimal battery charging. I didn't hook up my wires because I use photovoltaics but at least that option is available. You're gonna love the four-stroke. It doesn't smoke and it's so nice to use gasoline without oil mixed. I've been using mid-grade fuel, btw. Wilbur Hubbard ====== Sounds good to me and I'm really looking forward to lowering the noise in the cockpit. We don't have far to motor from the dock to our sailing grounds but talking over the 2 stroke at all still sucks. Thanks again. If you're in no hurry and run it between 1/4 to 1/2 throttle you'll barely hear it. It just puts along. Above half throttle it starts getting more air intake noise than exhaust noise as it is a thru-propeller exhaust. Wilbur Hubbard |
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Wilbur Hubbard wrote:
"MMC" wrote in message ng.com... "Wilbur Hubbard" wrote in message anews.com... "MMC" wrote in message g.com... "Wilbur Hubbard" wrote in message anews.com... "MMC" wrote in message ng.com... Wilbur? I'm thinking of upgrading from my 90's 6hp Johnson for a 4 stroke and the 6hp Sailpro from Defender is $1299. This is a great price compared to the other manufacturers so just wondering how you like yours? That IS a great price. My source is selling them at $1430 with free shipping. If you pay shipping from Defender the cost might be 80 bucks or so depending where you live. http://www.onlineoutboards.com/Tohat...p-MFS6BUL.html The motor is working out great for me. I think it's finally broken in and it has lots of power for its size. I'm quite impressed. I can't believe the gas mileage. It's work just trying to burn through the 3.5 gallon tank. It seems to last forever. But, I motor less than most people so that might have something to do with it. Most recently I motored for about two hours getting from bayside to oceanside through the creek and under the bascule bridge to the yard. It was full when I started and above 3/4 tank when I finished. It starts very easy and it idles smoothly and the complaint about the steering damper not holding it in place seems not to apply to mine. It stays pretty much where I put it using the knob-type steering detent on the rear of the motor and it's not even screwed down very hard. It's about as quiet as the Honda 9.9 was but not quite as smooth being a single cylinder job. But, it's not a noisy vibration machine either. At about half to 3/4 throttle it pushes my 27-footer at 5-6 knots in smooth water. Haven't tried it in any kind of a steep chop but it will probably be adequate to get in and out of channels that present a direct headwind that one cannot sail in. I'd say, go for it. Wilbur Hubbard ===== Thanks Wilbur. Is there any problem with keeping these (I don't know 4 strokes) motors tilted out of the water when not in use? Particularly with the oil being in a pan? My Morgan has a cut out in the center of the transom for the outboard like the second pic in this ad: http://www.sailingtexas.com/smorgan25101.html That's the same arrangement my Coronado 27 has. The motor tilts up plenty far enough to keep the foot/prop well out of the water. I think I've got about six inches between the lowest part of the skeg and the water. Don't worry about the oil. I think it uses a dry sump system and only uses half a quart and no oil comes out anywhere when fully tilted up. It even has an small charging coil/rectifier that puts out five or six amps at 12vdc for running lights and/or minimal battery charging. I didn't hook up my wires because I use photovoltaics but at least that option is available. You're gonna love the four-stroke. It doesn't smoke and it's so nice to use gasoline without oil mixed. I've been using mid-grade fuel, btw. Wilbur Hubbard ====== Sounds good to me and I'm really looking forward to lowering the noise in the cockpit. We don't have far to motor from the dock to our sailing grounds but talking over the 2 stroke at all still sucks. Thanks again. If you're in no hurry and run it between 1/4 to 1/2 throttle you'll barely hear it. It just puts along. Above half throttle it starts getting more air intake noise than exhaust noise as it is a thru-propeller exhaust. Wilbur Hubbard While the thru-the-propeller exhaust helps keep noise down, it really ruins reverse thrust! -- Richard Lamb email me: web site: www.home.earthlink.net/~cavelamb |
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