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I December 27th 10 08:56 AM

I hate "merry" Christmas.
 
Sir Gregory Hall, Esq. wrote:
"husk" wrote in message
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On Dec 26, 2:53 pm, " Sir Gregory Hall, Esq."
wrote:
"husk" wrote in message

...
On Dec 26, 10:04 am, " Sir Gregory Hall, Esq."
wrote:

Negative, I am saying that, as a Christian, I am tasked with not
allowing
my
religion to be secularized, liberalized and *******ized by accepting the
language the anti-religious or non-religious use to usurp and
marginalize
my
religion.
--
Gregory Hall

Maybe I live in a different culture than you do Greg, but where I live
Christian are fighting to maintain the Merry Christmas greeting. Go
to a grocery or departent store, run by a big chain, and one does not
hear a Merry Christmas greeting from the staff. Even when you give
them a Merry Christmas and they attend the same church as you, they
are reluctant to respond back the same due to pressure from their
bosses to be PC. I have talked to Jews and Muslims on this matter
and they are not offended by the Merry Christmas greeting as in their
opinion it is polite to wish someone of another religion merriment in
their religious celebrations, just as I will wish Happy Hanakah , or
Happy Eid to Jews and Muslims. What is wrong is the exclusion of any
mention of the beliefs of others in secular society. It is only
polite to offer another good wishes on the eve of their religious
occasion. We shouldn't take offence when offered such greeting and we
shouldn't feel uncomfortable in giving the greeting.

The words of the greeting matter not unless the words are an attempt
at nutralizing the religion in the event. Since the word "Christmas"
is in "Merry Christmas" and Holy is in "Happy Holidays", one should
not get all wrapped up in the meaning each individual takes. If you
say Happy Holidays, or Merry Christmas to me I interpret that as a
religious greeting. It matters not that the sender or the greeting
may not, it is how it is interpretted that matters.

What upsets me is when corporations deny their employees the right to
say , "Merry Christmas." One should not take offence to being wished
Merry Christmas any more than if I were mistaken for a Jew and be
wished Happy Hanakah.

=================[REPLY]=====================

But the word they are trying to suppress is not the word, merry. It is the
word Christmas because Christmas is a religious-based word. I can
guarantee
if people went around saying, "Satanic Salutations" these anti-religious
liberals would be ALL FOR that. There would be NO mention of trying to
suppress that expression in public. There would be no mention of
separation
of church and state.

See the difference? The agenda is to mock and belittle Christianity. The
word 'merry' accomplishes that purpose in the eyes of the anti-religious.
Therefore, Christians should not fall into their trap which marginalizes
Christianity. As Christians, we should reply to any "merry Christmas
salutation with something like, "Holy Christmas" or "Blessed Christmas."
This would demonstrate that a 'merry Christmas' is a less than
satisfactory
expression as to the real meaning of Christmas.

--
Gregory Hall


My argument is the mocking of Christ only makes him stronger.

He needs us not to fight his battles. He needs us to be generous with
our money, our time, our labour and our heart. That alone will aid
him in more ways than fighting the secularists.




==================[REPLY]==================

Historically speaking, there is no justification for your statement that
Jesus doesn't need us to fight His battles.


Religiously speaking, there is. Read Matthew 5:39, where he advises you
to turn the other cheek.

His recruiting the apostles and
his instructing them to go forth and teach the world about His message of
salvation refutes your assertion.


He told the apostles to do that, not you.

His statement, "Upon this rock (the
steadfast faith as shown by Peter) shall my church be built" is another
example of how He needs and requires Christians to spread the Gospel.


Jesus specifically refutes that in Matthew 6:5-6. Also Matthew 7:21-27
where the "rock" example is used for the first time.



--

Greg's wrong guesses so far:

Aratzio
Spooge
MAABOF
Vince
Deco
Mike/Bill (?)
Johnny Dollar

I December 27th 10 08:58 AM

I hate "merry" Christmas.
 
husk wrote:
On Dec 26, 6:28 pm, " Sir Gregory Hall, Esq."
wrote:
"husk" wrote in message

...
On Dec 26, 2:53 pm, " Sir Gregory Hall, Esq."
wrote:



"husk" wrote in message
...
On Dec 26, 10:04 am, " Sir Gregory Hall, Esq."
wrote:
Negative, I am saying that, as a Christian, I am tasked with not
allowing
my
religion to be secularized, liberalized and *******ized by accepting the
language the anti-religious or non-religious use to usurp and
marginalize
my
religion.
--
Gregory Hall
Maybe I live in a different culture than you do Greg, but where I live
Christian are fighting to maintain the Merry Christmas greeting. Go
to a grocery or departent store, run by a big chain, and one does not
hear a Merry Christmas greeting from the staff. Even when you give
them a Merry Christmas and they attend the same church as you, they
are reluctant to respond back the same due to pressure from their
bosses to be PC. I have talked to Jews and Muslims on this matter
and they are not offended by the Merry Christmas greeting as in their
opinion it is polite to wish someone of another religion merriment in
their religious celebrations, just as I will wish Happy Hanakah , or
Happy Eid to Jews and Muslims. What is wrong is the exclusion of any
mention of the beliefs of others in secular society. It is only
polite to offer another good wishes on the eve of their religious
occasion. We shouldn't take offence when offered such greeting and we
shouldn't feel uncomfortable in giving the greeting.
The words of the greeting matter not unless the words are an attempt
at nutralizing the religion in the event. Since the word "Christmas"
is in "Merry Christmas" and Holy is in "Happy Holidays", one should
not get all wrapped up in the meaning each individual takes. If you
say Happy Holidays, or Merry Christmas to me I interpret that as a
religious greeting. It matters not that the sender or the greeting
may not, it is how it is interpretted that matters.
What upsets me is when corporations deny their employees the right to
say , "Merry Christmas." One should not take offence to being wished
Merry Christmas any more than if I were mistaken for a Jew and be
wished Happy Hanakah.
=================[REPLY]=====================
But the word they are trying to suppress is not the word, merry. It is the
word Christmas because Christmas is a religious-based word. I can
guarantee
if people went around saying, "Satanic Salutations" these anti-religious
liberals would be ALL FOR that. There would be NO mention of trying to
suppress that expression in public. There would be no mention of
separation
of church and state.
See the difference? The agenda is to mock and belittle Christianity. The
word 'merry' accomplishes that purpose in the eyes of the anti-religious.
Therefore, Christians should not fall into their trap which marginalizes
Christianity. As Christians, we should reply to any "merry Christmas
salutation with something like, "Holy Christmas" or "Blessed Christmas."
This would demonstrate that a 'merry Christmas' is a less than
satisfactory
expression as to the real meaning of Christmas.
--
Gregory Hall

My argument is the mocking of Christ only makes him stronger.

He needs us not to fight his battles. He needs us to be generous with
our money, our time, our labour and our heart. That alone will aid
him in more ways than fighting the secularists.

==================[REPLY]==================

Historically speaking, there is no justification for your statement that
Jesus doesn't need us to fight His battles. His recruiting the apostles and
his instructing them to go forth and teach the world about His message of
salvation refutes your assertion. His statement, "Upon this rock (the
steadfast faith as shown by Peter) shall my church be built" is another
example of how He needs and requires Christians to spread the Gospel.

--
Gregory Hall


He said to go forth and teach. He did not say to go forth and fight.

When we are generous with our time, our labour, our money and our
heart, in the name of Jesus, we are Apostles. For when we do these
things we are asked why. At that point we can teach them about
Jesus. You give first and wait for them to be inquisitive. In your
face missionary work is rarely successful. If it was all Haitians
would be Scientologists by now.

A true story was retold at our church last year. A parishoner heard
of a woman, on her street,who had her hours drastically reduced at
work and had barely enough for rent let alone food and other bills.
He and his wife determined that they had surplus money and the woman
could make better use of it than they. He went over to her house and
gave an envelope of money to her with no explanation. The woman
opened the envelope and was not happy, she went back to the givers'
house and demanded to know what they expected in return for this
money. When told nothing, she was suspicious, but under her financial
circumstances grudgingly took the money and left. Very little of a
thank you was given. During the next weeks the couple and the woman
would pass on the street and exchange hellos, but no mention of the
money was made. One day the woman appeared at the door and told the
couple she needed to know why they gave her the money, why they
expected nothing back as her expeience had been nothing came to you
for free.

At this point the woman was ready to hear the story of Jesus.

We give of ourselves, we expect nothing in return and we wait for them
to come to us.

Fighting the secularists is a waste of our time. It's what the
Scientologists do and they are failing miserably.


Very true. Jesus specifically said to spread the gospel through your
good works. Greg does no good works and thus is not an apostle.

--

Greg's wrong guesses so far:

Aratzio
Spooge
MAABOF
Vince
Deco
Mike/Bill (?)
Johnny Dollar

Marian December 27th 10 02:20 PM

I hate "merry" Christmas.
 
On Dec 26, 11:07*pm, "O.K. Urknext" wrote:
On Dec 26, 5:45*pm, Marian wrote:

On Dec 25, 1:58*pm, "O.K. Urknext" wrote:


On Dec 25, 10:50*am, " *Sir Gregory Hall, Esq."
wrote:

[...]
--
Gregory Hall


Enjoy your Christmas the way you want. Why get all testy about what
others do?


Charlie


Because. He. Is. A. Troll.
* * * * * * * * &
That. Is. What. They. Do.


http://afpf.tripod.com/troll.htm


Marian


You'll have to talk to Dalin "the enabler". I know he is a troll.

Merry Christmas (a little late) Marian.

Charlie


Thank you, Charlie. It was. Hope it was for you and yours, also.

Marian

Sir Gregory Hall, Esq. December 27th 10 08:04 PM

I hate "merry" Christmas.
 
"husk" wrote in message
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He said to go forth and teach. He did not say to go forth and fight.


He said it would be dangerous work that might cost their lives. He equipped
them with various weapons to fight with. They could even exorcise demons and
that is some tough dude who can exorcise a demon. A couple of them could
even raise the dead. Jesus was no wus when it came to establishing His
church.

When we are generous with our time, our labour, our money and our
heart, in the name of Jesus, we are Apostles. For when we do these
things we are asked why. At that point we can teach them about
Jesus. You give first and wait for them to be inquisitive. In your
face missionary work is rarely successful. If it was all Haitians
would be Scientologists by now.


Haitians already had a religion based upon their African heritage. But, you
make a good point. Lead by example but don't be swayed by this turn the
other cheek nonsense. Jesus himself, for example, did not turn the other
check when it came to smacking the money changers in the temple around.

A true story was retold at our church last year. A parishoner heard
of a woman, on her street,who had her hours drastically reduced at
work and had barely enough for rent let alone food and other bills.
He and his wife determined that they had surplus money and the woman
could make better use of it than they. He went over to her house and
gave an envelope of money to her with no explanation. The woman
opened the envelope and was not happy, she went back to the givers'
house and demanded to know what they expected in return for this
money. When told nothing, she was suspicious, but under her financial
circumstances grudgingly took the money and left. Very little of a
thank you was given. During the next weeks the couple and the woman
would pass on the street and exchange hellos, but no mention of the
money was made. One day the woman appeared at the door and told the
couple she needed to know why they gave her the money, why they
expected nothing back as her expeience had been nothing came to you
for free.

At this point the woman was ready to hear the story of Jesus.

We give of ourselves, we expect nothing in return and we wait for them
to come to us.



That's not entirely true.

"Paul writes some instruction regarding Christian giving in 1 Corinthians
9:14, where he states that, "...the Lord ordained that they which preach the
gospel should live of the gospel." In other words, preachers should be paid
to preach. Where does this money come from? In Galatians Paul tells us, "Let
him that is taught in the word communicate unto him that teacheth in all
good things" (Galatians 6:6 - this can be better understood from another
translation: "And let the one who is taught the word share all good things
with him who teaches" (NASB). We see this same concept again in 1 Timothy
5:17-18 where Paul writes, "Let the elders that rule well be counted worthy
of double honour, especially they who labour in the word and doctrine. For
the scripture saith, Thou shalt not muzzle the ox that treadeth out the
corn. And, The labourer is worthy of his reward." Therefore, we should be
giving to support those who teach us faithfully.


Source: http://www.thebiblepage.org/biblesays/tithing.shtml


Fighting the secularists is a waste of our time. It's what the
Scientologists do and they are failing miserably.



Don't fight them but preach to them and not in some wuss, PC manner. Teach
them the truth and the Word.

--
Gregory Hall



Bozo December 27th 10 11:45 PM

I hate "merry" Christmas.
 
On Dec 25, 1:45*pm, Sjouke Burry
wrote:
Jackie DeGrippo wrote:
I pray that God will strike you and your kind down as in the days of
Lot. I want the Devil to personally force feed you his feces. I want
you to choke to death 1000X on the molten crap that flows from Satan's
anus.


Ah, it is such an honor to meet a xian who loves his neighbours
and in an argument turns the other cheek.
Who loves others like Jezus did.......


Now that "choke-to-death on hot molten crap from Satan's anus" is that
old time religion I was praying for, and hoping I wouldn't miss if I
took my sweet time to read thru all this xmas rigmarole you guys are
sweating about, thank you lord and HALLELUJAH for not disappointing
me.

Now If I didn't find it, I was going to have leave on some some lame
observation I made about somebody here saying "that religion depends
on good relationships with people" or something to that effect as
cited below ... but what do I know ... it's been a long time since
I've been to divinity school NOT!

On Dec 27, 8:20*am, husk wrote:
On Dec 27, 5:01*am, l *tr l wrote:

Gookler , wrote:
money was made. *One day the woman appeared at the door and told the
couple she needed to know why they gave her the money, why they
expected nothing back as her expeience had been nothing came to you
for free.


At this point the woman was ready to hear the story of Jesus.


So the woman had it exactly right.
Christians *give* for reason/expectation.
There is her expectation of your mocking
her common sense. Fruit of her seeing straight
through the usual shallow christian ****.


We give of ourselves, we expect nothing in return and we wait for them
to come to us.


Full up on contradiction in just a single sentence.
Not so amazing as it is, ****tards fail
at seeing the message in the utterings
they make in the name of saving themselves.
Again, an expectation of that brand of "giving".
This christian **** really is a dum****ers trip.


I can see how you would interpret in that way. *You see it as someone
paying someone to hear the word of Christ. *I see it as no
obligation. *Had the woman never come over to ask why the couple gave
her the money, it would have been left at that, a random act of
kindness. * And if that is all that is acheived, that the woman
realizes that strangers can care, then that is also, as Scientologists
put it, a win. * If the woman comes over to ask why, telling the woman
that the couple was influenced by the example set by Jesus, does not
brainwash her into instantly becoming a Christian. *Someone with a
long history of poor relationships with people is not going to jump
gung ho into a religion.

There is no payment expected back from the woman. The help is
genuine. *If she asks why, she is told and she has the ability to
decide whether the story is real or not, and again as Scientologists
put it, is true for her.


Note to self: now don't get Scientologists and Christian Scientists
mixed up.

-bdn-



Transremaxculver December 28th 10 04:39 AM

I hate "merry" Christmas.
 
On Dec 27, 7:57*am, kachina wrote:
Marian said stuff on 26 Dec 2010:





On Dec 25, 1:58 pm, "O.K. Urknext" wrote:
On Dec 25, 10:50 am, " Sir Gregory Hall, Esq."
wrote:

[...]
--
Gregory Hall


Enjoy your Christmas the way you want. Why get all testy about what
others do?


Charlie


Because. He. Is. A. Troll.
* * * * * * * * &
That. Is. What. They. Do.


http://afpf.tripod.com/troll.htm


Marian


finally, someone who understands gweggy.

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Transremaxculver December 28th 10 04:40 AM

I hate "merry" Christmas.
 
On Dec 27, 8:40*am, I wrote:
* Sir Gregory Hall, Esq. wrote:





"BigBadBubba" wrote in message
...
" Sir Gregory Hall, Esq." wrote in message
...


Christmas is a celebration of the birth of Christ so what's with this
'merry' crap?


The Online dictionary definition:


mer ry
adj. mer ri er, mer ri est
1. Full of high-spirited gaiety; jolly.
2. Marked by or offering fun and gaiety; festive: a merry evening.
3. Archaic Delightful; entertaining.
4. Brisk: a merry pace.


It seems to me this 'merry' Christmas crap is just another way for
non-believers to take over and *marginalize the true meaning of
Christmas. It seems to me Christ's birth should be celebrated with solemn
thanks to our Lord for giving his only begotten son that those who
believe in Him may have everlasting life.


Getting drunk on spirits and getting bloated on too much food is
debauchery. Is it proper to gives thanks to the Lord's ultimate sacrifice
by engaging in sinful behavior? Making Christmas all about human vices
seems to me to be very antithetical, blasphemous and sinful and no way to
get to Heaven.


You just HATE Christmas.


I hate the secular version of Christmas because it disrespects my religion.


Does calling women "kunts" venerate your religion, Greg?

Santa Claus is held in higher esteem than my Lord and that sticks in my
craw.


As evidenced by all the churchs to Santa. *Right.

They call them toy stores.
--

Greg's wrong guesses so far:

Aratzio
Spooge
MAABOF
Vince
Deco
Mike/Bill (?)
Johnny Dollar- Hide quoted text -

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Karl Master December 28th 10 05:15 AM

I hate "merry" Christmas.
 
On Dec 25, 12:50*pm, " Sir Gregory Hall, Esq."
wrote:
Christmas is a celebration of the birth of Christ so what's with this
'merry' crap?

The Online dictionary definition:

mer ry
adj. mer ri er, mer ri est
1. Full of high-spirited gaiety; jolly.
2. Marked by or offering fun and gaiety; festive: a merry evening.
3. Archaic Delightful; entertaining.
4. Brisk: a merry pace.

It seems to me this 'merry' Christmas crap is just another way for
non-believers to take over and *marginalize the true meaning of Christmas.
It seems to me Christ's birth should be celebrated with solemn thanks to our
Lord for giving his only begotten son that those who believe in Him may have
everlasting life.

Getting drunk on spirits and getting bloated on too much food is debauchery.
Is it proper to gives thanks to the Lord's ultimate sacrifice by engaging in
sinful behavior? Making Christmas all about human vices seems to me to be
very antithetical, blasphemous and sinful and no way to get to Heaven.

--
Gregory Hall


He hates "Merry" Christmas 'cause Neal Warren is alone. Nobody wants
him around 'cause he's lazy, nasty and evil.

Sir Gregory Hall, Esq. December 28th 10 04:02 PM

I hate "merry" Christmas.
 
"Karl Master" wrote in message
...
On Dec 25, 12:50 pm, " Sir Gregory Hall, Esq."
wrote:
Christmas is a celebration of the birth of Christ so what's with this
'merry' crap?

The Online dictionary definition:

mer ry
adj. mer ri er, mer ri est
1. Full of high-spirited gaiety; jolly.
2. Marked by or offering fun and gaiety; festive: a merry evening.
3. Archaic Delightful; entertaining.
4. Brisk: a merry pace.

It seems to me this 'merry' Christmas crap is just another way for
non-believers to take over and marginalize the true meaning of Christmas.
It seems to me Christ's birth should be celebrated with solemn thanks to
our
Lord for giving his only begotten son that those who believe in Him may
have
everlasting life.

Getting drunk on spirits and getting bloated on too much food is
debauchery.
Is it proper to gives thanks to the Lord's ultimate sacrifice by engaging
in
sinful behavior? Making Christmas all about human vices seems to me to be
very antithetical, blasphemous and sinful and no way to get to Heaven.

--
Gregory Hall


:: He hates "Merry" Christmas 'cause Neal Warren is alone. Nobody wants
:: him around 'cause he's lazy, nasty and evil.

Barbarella, you know that just isn't true. I have to constantly repel comely
and aggressive, female boarders from my 'nutshell.' I am not alone - I am
just very particular whom I choose to be with.

I insist upon a perfect woman/helpmate. Actually, there is no such thing as
a perfect woman but some women come very close to it. You are one such
woman. There is only one thing you need to be completely perfect - that
being your being my helpmate.

--
Gregory Hall




pandora[_2_] December 28th 10 09:52 PM

I hate "merry" Christmas.
 
On Sun, 26 Dec 2010 10:04:52 -0500, Sir Gregory Hall, Esq. wrote:

"Sherkaner Underhill" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 25 Dec 2010 15:58:34 -0500, " Sir Gregory Hall, Esq."
wrote:

"seymore" wrote in message
news:c0ce9bbb-2243-4f58-

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oh, **** you, Gregory! The expression is old as dirt! In other parts
of the world "merry" is substituted by the word "happy". The meaning
is the same for Christians. why would they *not* be merry or happy
that the savior was born? huh?



You missed the point. "Merry Christmas" is the preferred, non-believer,
politically correct greeting that marginalizes the true purpose of
Christmas
which is celebrating the birth of the Christ. How about 'Joyous
Christmas' or better yet. 'Holy Christmas'.


That sounds like a dine idea and I hope you enjoy your push to put the
christian back into christianity. You plan to lead by example?


I am leading by example.


Do you think the non-believers would ever accept and say those
greetings?


Why are you so interested in controlling what other people are doing
and saying?


Negative, I am saying that, as a Christian, I am tasked with not
allowing my religion to be secularized, liberalized and *******ized by
accepting the language the anti-religious or non-religious use to usurp
and marginalize my religion.


Keep your religion to yourself (as instructed to do in your bible) and no
one will bother you. Real simple.

pandora[_2_] December 28th 10 09:58 PM

I hate "merry" Christmas.
 
On Sun, 26 Dec 2010 11:39:06 -0500, BigBadBubba wrote:

" Sir Gregory Hall, Esq." wrote in message
...


Christmas is a celebration of the birth of Christ so what's with this
'merry' crap?

The Online dictionary definition:

mer·ry
adj. mer·ri·er, mer·ri·est
1. Full of high-spirited gaiety; jolly. 2. Marked by or offering fun
and gaiety; festive: a merry evening. 3. Archaic Delightful;
entertaining.
4. Brisk: a merry pace.


It seems to me this 'merry' Christmas crap is just another way for
non-believers to take over and marginalize the true meaning of
Christmas. It seems to me Christ's birth should be celebrated with
solemn thanks to our Lord for giving his only begotten son that those
who believe in Him may have everlasting life.

Getting drunk on spirits and getting bloated on too much food is
debauchery. Is it proper to gives thanks to the Lord's ultimate
sacrifice by engaging in sinful behavior? Making Christmas all about
human vices seems to me to be very antithetical, blasphemous and sinful
and no way to get to Heaven.



You just HATE Christmas.



--- news://freenews.netfront.net/ - complaints: ---


Nah. He's just alone and lonely and desperate.

Sir Gregory Hall, Esq. December 28th 10 10:11 PM

I hate "merry" Christmas.
 
"pandora" wrote in message
news:d4GdnaXy15qVwYfQnZ2dnUVZ_qCdnZ2d@scnresearch. com...


Keep your religion to yourself (as instructed to do in your bible) and no
one will bother you. Real simple.




As usual you know nothing, Pandora. And, you appear to know even less about
the Bible.

As Christians, the Bible says to NOT to keep Christianity to ourselves.
Rather, the Bible teaches us to spread our religion throughout the world.

Matthew 28:18 - And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is
given unto me in heaven and in earth.
Matthew 28:19 -Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in
the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:
Matthew 28:20 - Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have
commanded you: and, lo, I am with you always, even unto the end of the
world. Amen.

Mark 16:15 - And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach
the gospel to every creature.
Mark 16:16 - He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that
believeth not shall be damned.

It is plain as day that Christians are tasked to spread the Gospel.

--
Gregory Hall



Sir Gregory Hall, Esq. December 28th 10 10:12 PM

I hate "merry" Christmas.
 
"pandora" wrote in message
news:d4GdnaHy15riwIfQnZ2dnUVZ_qCdnZ2d@scnresearch. com...
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Nah. He's just alone and lonely and desperate.




PKB!



Meat Plow December 28th 10 10:13 PM

I hate "merry" Christmas.
 
On Tue, 28 Dec 2010 17:11:13 -0500, Sir Gregory Hall, Esq. wrote:

"pandora" wrote in message
news:d4GdnaXy15qVwYfQnZ2dnUVZ_qCdnZ2d@scnresearch. com...


Keep your religion to yourself (as instructed to do in your bible) and
no one will bother you. Real simple.




As usual you know nothing, Pandora. And, you appear to know even less
about the Bible.

As Christians, the Bible says to NOT to keep Christianity to ourselves.
Rather, the Bible teaches us to spread our religion throughout the
world.

Matthew 28:18 - And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is
given unto me in heaven and in earth. Matthew 28:19 -Go ye therefore,
and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of
the Son, and of the Holy Ghost: Matthew 28:20 - Teaching them to observe
all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you
always, even unto the end of the world. Amen.

Mark 16:15 - And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and
preach the gospel to every creature.
Mark 16:16 - He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he
that believeth not shall be damned.

It is plain as day that Christians are tasked to spread the Gospel.


If you're nice maybe Pandora will knit you an Asbestos suit for your
afterlife.



--
Live Fast, Die Young and Leave a Pretty Corpse

Sir Gregory Hall, Esq. December 28th 10 10:16 PM

I hate "merry" Christmas.
 
"Meat Plow" wrote in message
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On Tue, 28 Dec 2010 17:11:13 -0500, Sir Gregory Hall, Esq. wrote:

"pandora" wrote in message
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Keep your religion to yourself (as instructed to do in your bible) and
no one will bother you. Real simple.




As usual you know nothing, Pandora. And, you appear to know even less
about the Bible.

As Christians, the Bible says to NOT to keep Christianity to ourselves.
Rather, the Bible teaches us to spread our religion throughout the
world.

Matthew 28:18 - And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is
given unto me in heaven and in earth. Matthew 28:19 -Go ye therefore,
and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of
the Son, and of the Holy Ghost: Matthew 28:20 - Teaching them to observe
all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you
always, even unto the end of the world. Amen.

Mark 16:15 - And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and
preach the gospel to every creature.
Mark 16:16 - He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he
that believeth not shall be damned.

It is plain as day that Christians are tasked to spread the Gospel.


If you're nice maybe Pandora will knit you an Asbestos suit for your
afterlife.



Good one! (for once)

--
Gregory Hall



pandora[_2_] December 29th 10 09:03 AM

I hate "merry" Christmas.
 
On Tue, 28 Dec 2010 17:11:13 -0500, Sir Gregory Hall, Esq. wrote:

"pandora" wrote in message
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Keep your religion to yourself (as instructed to do in your bible) and
no one will bother you. Real simple.




As usual you know nothing, Pandora. And, you appear to know even less
about the Bible.

As Christians, the Bible says to NOT to keep Christianity to ourselves.
Rather, the Bible teaches us to spread our religion throughout the
world.

Matthew 28:18 - And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is
given unto me in heaven and in earth. Matthew 28:19 -Go ye therefore,
and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of
the Son, and of the Holy Ghost: Matthew 28:20 - Teaching them to observe
all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you
always, even unto the end of the world. Amen.

Mark 16:15 - And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and
preach the gospel to every creature.
Mark 16:16 - He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he
that believeth not shall be damned.

It is plain as day that Christians are tasked to spread the Gospel.


And thus shall ye be spit upon.

pandora[_2_] December 29th 10 09:05 AM

I hate "merry" Christmas.
 
On Tue, 28 Dec 2010 17:12:08 -0500, Sir Gregory Hall, Esq. wrote:

"pandora" wrote in message
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Nah. He's just alone and lonely and desperate.




PKB!


Heh. I'm actually enjoying being alone today as I just spent the entire
weekend with 20 of my family. We ate, opened gifts, talked, drank a lot
of wine and enjoyed one another's company. It was a special weekend as
our son and his wife and daughters drove all the way from Reno, Nevada to
spend the weekend with us. We had a wonderful time. Sorry you didn't.


pandora[_2_] December 29th 10 09:06 AM

I hate "merry" Christmas.
 
On Tue, 28 Dec 2010 22:13:50 +0000, Meat Plow wrote:

On Tue, 28 Dec 2010 17:11:13 -0500, Sir Gregory Hall, Esq. wrote:

"pandora" wrote in message
news:d4GdnaXy15qVwYfQnZ2dnUVZ_qCdnZ2d@scnresearch. com...


Keep your religion to yourself (as instructed to do in your bible) and
no one will bother you. Real simple.




As usual you know nothing, Pandora. And, you appear to know even less
about the Bible.

As Christians, the Bible says to NOT to keep Christianity to ourselves.
Rather, the Bible teaches us to spread our religion throughout the
world.

Matthew 28:18 - And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power
is given unto me in heaven and in earth. Matthew 28:19 -Go ye
therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the
Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost: Matthew 28:20 - Teaching
them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I
am with you always, even unto the end of the world. Amen.

Mark 16:15 - And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and
preach the gospel to every creature.
Mark 16:16 - He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he
that believeth not shall be damned.

It is plain as day that Christians are tasked to spread the Gospel.


If you're nice maybe Pandora will knit you an Asbestos suit for your
afterlife.


Heh. I might even give him a sip of cold water.

I December 29th 10 01:24 PM

I hate "merry" Christmas.
 
Transremaxculver wrote:
On Dec 27, 8:40 am, I wrote:
Sir Gregory Hall, Esq. wrote:





"BigBadBubba" wrote in message
...
" Sir Gregory Hall, Esq." wrote in message
...
Christmas is a celebration of the birth of Christ so what's with this
'merry' crap?
The Online dictionary definition:
mer ry
adj. mer ri er, mer ri est
1. Full of high-spirited gaiety; jolly.
2. Marked by or offering fun and gaiety; festive: a merry evening.
3. Archaic Delightful; entertaining.
4. Brisk: a merry pace.
It seems to me this 'merry' Christmas crap is just another way for
non-believers to take over and marginalize the true meaning of
Christmas. It seems to me Christ's birth should be celebrated with solemn
thanks to our Lord for giving his only begotten son that those who
believe in Him may have everlasting life.
Getting drunk on spirits and getting bloated on too much food is
debauchery. Is it proper to gives thanks to the Lord's ultimate sacrifice
by engaging in sinful behavior? Making Christmas all about human vices
seems to me to be very antithetical, blasphemous and sinful and no way to
get to Heaven.
You just HATE Christmas.
I hate the secular version of Christmas because it disrespects my religion.

Does calling women "kunts" venerate your religion, Greg?

Santa Claus is held in higher esteem than my Lord and that sticks in my
craw.

As evidenced by all the churchs to Santa. Right.

They call them toy stores.


Where Santa's image is left up all year and venerated; where people sing
his praises all year long; where they get into bloody, pulpit-pounding
doctrinal fights about what his writings mean for eternal salvation/

Right.

--

Greg's wrong guesses so far:

Aratzio
Spooge
MAABOF
Vince
Deco
Mike/Bill (?)
Johnny Dollar

Sir Gregory Hall, Esq. December 29th 10 04:00 PM

I hate "merry" Christmas.
 
"pandora" wrote in message
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On Tue, 28 Dec 2010 17:11:13 -0500, Sir Gregory Hall, Esq. wrote:

"pandora" wrote in message
news:d4GdnaXy15qVwYfQnZ2dnUVZ_qCdnZ2d@scnresearch. com...


Keep your religion to yourself (as instructed to do in your bible) and
no one will bother you. Real simple.




As usual you know nothing, Pandora. And, you appear to know even less
about the Bible.

As Christians, the Bible says to NOT to keep Christianity to ourselves.
Rather, the Bible teaches us to spread our religion throughout the
world.

Matthew 28:18 - And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is
given unto me in heaven and in earth. Matthew 28:19 -Go ye therefore,
and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of
the Son, and of the Holy Ghost: Matthew 28:20 - Teaching them to observe
all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you
always, even unto the end of the world. Amen.

Mark 16:15 - And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and
preach the gospel to every creature.
Mark 16:16 - He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he
that believeth not shall be damned.

It is plain as day that Christians are tasked to spread the Gospel.


And thus shall ye be spit upon.




Spat not spit. Duh!

--
Gregory Hall



Bob G. December 29th 10 04:38 PM

I hate "merry" Christmas.
 
On Dec 29, 9:00*am, " Sir Gregory Hall, Esq."
wrote:
"pandora" wrote in message


And thus shall ye be spit upon.


Spat not spit. Duh!

--
Gregory Hall-


There you go again! Not only are you incapable of learning to snip,
you are so willing to glorify your own ignorance.

Spit and spat are both acceptable past and past participles of spit. I
believe, but will not bet the farm, that spat is the common
British version.

Cease to comment on the ignorance of others until you get rid of your
own, never mind that is the only way you can achieve orgasm.

Bob G

Sir Gregory Hall, Esq. December 29th 10 04:50 PM

I hate "merry" Christmas.
 
"Bob G." wrote in message
...
On Dec 29, 9:00 am, " Sir Gregory Hall, Esq."
wrote:
"pandora" wrote in message


And thus shall ye be spit upon.


Spat not spit. Duh!


:: There you go again! Not only are you incapable of learning to snip,
:: you are so willing to glorify your own ignorance.
::
:: Spit and spat are both acceptable past and past participles of spit. I
:: believe, but will not bet the farm, that spat is the common
:: British version.


What a dull-minded little **** you are, Bob G. Sad that your like presumes
to educate young minds when your own mind is so narrow as demonstrated by
your lack of understanding of context.

"And thus shall ye be spit upon" is a layman's attempt at "Bible speak."
It's an antiquated language form no longer in everyday use.

When using antiquated language forms it is better to use them correctly.
"Spat" is the appropriate form of the word when used in antiquated, Biblical
language form.

:: Cease to comment on the ignorance of others until you get rid of your
:: own, never mind that is the only way you can achieve orgasm.

PKB, as I just pointed out above with my usual brilliance. Don't you ever
tire of getting smacked down?

--
Gregory Hall




I December 30th 10 09:33 AM

I hate "merry" Christmas.
 
Sir Gregory Hall, Esq. wrote:
"husk" wrote in message
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He said to go forth and teach. He did not say to go forth and fight.


He said it would be dangerous work that might cost their lives.


He did not tell them to fight. Over and over he told them to reconcile
with their accusers, etc. This just shows you've only been selectively
reading the Bible, assuming you've been reading it at all.

He equipped
them with various weapons to fight with. They could even exorcise demons and
that is some tough dude who can exorcise a demon. A couple of them could
even raise the dead. Jesus was no wus when it came to establishing His
church.


Which is why he kept leaving towns as soon as there was some sort of
ruckus. Right.

When we are generous with our time, our labour, our money and our
heart, in the name of Jesus, we are Apostles. For when we do these
things we are asked why. At that point we can teach them about
Jesus. You give first and wait for them to be inquisitive. In your
face missionary work is rarely successful. If it was all Haitians
would be Scientologists by now.


Haitians already had a religion based upon their African heritage. But, you
make a good point. Lead by example but don't be swayed by this turn the
other cheek nonsense.


Uh, that's exactly the opposite of what Jesus preached. He told you to
turn the other cheek when struck. Sadly, your ego will not let you do that.

Jesus himself, for example, did not turn the other
check when it came to smacking the money changers in the temple around.


Clearly you do not understand the difference between Godly anger and
manly temper. He did not overturn the tables because the money changers
had done anything specifically to HIM, it was for what that was doing to
the observance of their religion.

A true story was retold at our church last year. A parishoner heard
of a woman, on her street,who had her hours drastically reduced at
work and had barely enough for rent let alone food and other bills.
He and his wife determined that they had surplus money and the woman
could make better use of it than they. He went over to her house and
gave an envelope of money to her with no explanation. The woman
opened the envelope and was not happy, she went back to the givers'
house and demanded to know what they expected in return for this
money. When told nothing, she was suspicious, but under her financial
circumstances grudgingly took the money and left. Very little of a
thank you was given. During the next weeks the couple and the woman
would pass on the street and exchange hellos, but no mention of the
money was made. One day the woman appeared at the door and told the
couple she needed to know why they gave her the money, why they
expected nothing back as her expeience had been nothing came to you
for free.

At this point the woman was ready to hear the story of Jesus.

We give of ourselves, we expect nothing in return and we wait for them
to come to us.



That's not entirely true.


Sure it is.

"Paul writes some instruction regarding Christian giving in 1 Corinthians
9:14, where he states that, "...the Lord ordained that they which preach the
gospel should live of the gospel." In other words, preachers should be paid
to preach. Where does this money come from? In Galatians Paul tells us, "Let
him that is taught in the word communicate unto him that teacheth in all
good things" (Galatians 6:6 - this can be better understood from another
translation: "And let the one who is taught the word share all good things
with him who teaches" (NASB). We see this same concept again in 1 Timothy
5:17-18 where Paul writes, "Let the elders that rule well be counted worthy
of double honour, especially they who labour in the word and doctrine. For
the scripture saith, Thou shalt not muzzle the ox that treadeth out the
corn. And, The labourer is worthy of his reward." Therefore, we should be
giving to support those who teach us faithfully.


Source: http://www.thebiblepage.org/biblesays/tithing.shtml


What the hell are you babbling about? You've completely bolloxed up
husk's point, which is that when he gave the woman money he expected
nothing in return. How does some scripture saying it's OK to pay
teachers enter into that?

Fighting the secularists is a waste of our time. It's what the
Scientologists do and they are failing miserably.



Don't fight them but preach to them and not in some wuss, PC manner. Teach
them the truth and the Word.



Fortunately, Greg, you're not a Christian so you don't have to worry
about it. Pretending to be one is just another act you put on.

--

Greg's wrong guesses so far:

Aratzio
Spooge
MAABOF
Vince
Deco
Mike/Bill (?)
Johnny Dollar

I December 30th 10 09:35 AM

I hate "merry" Christmas.
 
Sir Gregory Hall, Esq. wrote:
"Karl Master" wrote in message
...
On Dec 25, 12:50 pm, " Sir Gregory Hall, Esq."
wrote:
Christmas is a celebration of the birth of Christ so what's with this
'merry' crap?

The Online dictionary definition:

mer ry
adj. mer ri er, mer ri est
1. Full of high-spirited gaiety; jolly.
2. Marked by or offering fun and gaiety; festive: a merry evening.
3. Archaic Delightful; entertaining.
4. Brisk: a merry pace.

It seems to me this 'merry' Christmas crap is just another way for
non-believers to take over and marginalize the true meaning of Christmas.
It seems to me Christ's birth should be celebrated with solemn thanks to
our
Lord for giving his only begotten son that those who believe in Him may
have
everlasting life.

Getting drunk on spirits and getting bloated on too much food is
debauchery.
Is it proper to gives thanks to the Lord's ultimate sacrifice by engaging
in
sinful behavior? Making Christmas all about human vices seems to me to be
very antithetical, blasphemous and sinful and no way to get to Heaven.

--
Gregory Hall


:: He hates "Merry" Christmas 'cause Neal Warren is alone. Nobody wants
:: him around 'cause he's lazy, nasty and evil.

Barbarella, you know that just isn't true. I have to constantly repel comely
and aggressive, female boarders from my 'nutshell.' I am not alone - I am
just very particular whom I choose to be with.


The man who cannot dance pretends that the band doesn't know how to play.

I insist upon a perfect woman/helpmate. Actually, there is no such thing as
a perfect woman but some women come very close to it. You are one such
woman. There is only one thing you need to be completely perfect - that
being your being my helpmate.


As evidenced by your hitting on all those other Usenet women.

--

Greg's wrong guesses so far:

Aratzio
Spooge
MAABOF
Vince
Deco
Mike/Bill (?)
Johnny Dollar

I December 30th 10 09:36 AM

I hate "merry" Christmas.
 
pandora wrote:
On Sun, 26 Dec 2010 10:04:52 -0500, Sir Gregory Hall, Esq. wrote:

"Sherkaner Underhill" wrote in message
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On Sat, 25 Dec 2010 15:58:34 -0500, " Sir Gregory Hall, Esq."
wrote:

"seymore" wrote in message
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oh, **** you, Gregory! The expression is old as dirt! In other parts
of the world "merry" is substituted by the word "happy". The meaning
is the same for Christians. why would they *not* be merry or happy
that the savior was born? huh?


You missed the point. "Merry Christmas" is the preferred, non-believer,
politically correct greeting that marginalizes the true purpose of
Christmas
which is celebrating the birth of the Christ. How about 'Joyous
Christmas' or better yet. 'Holy Christmas'.
That sounds like a dine idea and I hope you enjoy your push to put the
christian back into christianity. You plan to lead by example?

I am leading by example.


Do you think the non-believers would ever accept and say those
greetings?
Why are you so interested in controlling what other people are doing
and saying?

Negative, I am saying that, as a Christian, I am tasked with not
allowing my religion to be secularized, liberalized and *******ized by
accepting the language the anti-religious or non-religious use to usurp
and marginalize my religion.


Keep your religion to yourself (as instructed to do in your bible) and no
one will bother you. Real simple.


It's not even really his religion. It's just a way for him to bolster
his pretend superiority.

--

Greg's wrong guesses so far:

Aratzio
Spooge
MAABOF
Vince
Deco
Mike/Bill (?)
Johnny Dollar

I December 30th 10 11:29 AM

I hate "merry" Christmas.
 
Sir Gregory Hall, Esq. wrote:
"pandora" wrote in message
news:d4GdnaXy15qVwYfQnZ2dnUVZ_qCdnZ2d@scnresearch. com...

Keep your religion to yourself (as instructed to do in your bible) and no
one will bother you. Real simple.




As usual you know nothing, Pandora. And, you appear to know even less about
the Bible.

As Christians, the Bible says to NOT to keep Christianity to ourselves.
Rather, the Bible teaches us to spread our religion throughout the world.

Matthew 28:18 - And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is
given unto me in heaven and in earth.
Matthew 28:19 -Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in
the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:
Matthew 28:20 - Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have
commanded you: and, lo, I am with you always, even unto the end of the
world. Amen.


Jesus was speaking to his disciples, not to all men. See Matthew
28:16-17 where it makes it clear he was only speaking to the eleven
disciples.

In Matthew 6:5-8, when speaking to the multitude he tells them to pray
in secret, not out in public as the hypocrites do.

Further, in Matthew 7:21-23 he makes it clear that doing things in his
name, even prophesying and casting out demons, is not enough to gain
entry into heaven.

Mark 16:15 - And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach
the gospel to every creature.
Mark 16:16 - He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that
believeth not shall be damned.


In Mark 16:14 he makes it clear he is only talking to the disciples;
also Mark 3:14.

It is plain as day that Christians are tasked to spread the Gospel.


Then why, in Matthew 9:30 does Jesus instruct the blind men not to tell
anyone he healed them?

--

Greg's wrong guesses so far:

Aratzio
Spooge
MAABOF
Vince
Deco
Mike/Bill (?)
Johnny Dollar

pandora[_2_] December 31st 10 10:06 PM

I hate "merry" Christmas.
 
On Fri, 31 Dec 2010 07:02:14 +0000, kachina wrote:

pandora said stuff on 29 Dec 2010:

On Tue, 28 Dec 2010 17:12:08 -0500, Sir Gregory Hall, Esq. wrote:

"pandora" wrote in message
news:d4GdnaHy15riwIfQnZ2dnUVZ_qCdnZ2d@scnresearch. com... snip

Nah. He's just alone and lonely and desperate.



PKB!


Heh. I'm actually enjoying being alone today as I just spent the
entire weekend with 20 of my family. We ate, opened gifts, talked,
drank a lot of wine and enjoyed one another's company. It was a
special weekend as our son and his wife and daughters drove all the way
from Reno, Nevada to spend the weekend with us. We had a wonderful
time. Sorry you didn't.


hard to be lonely in a small crowd of 20. i'm glad you had a good time.
my sister and her husband and youngest came up from the ozarks to spend
the week, and we had 24 at christmas dinner, only 17 at christmas eve
dinner.


Drat! And here I thought I'd had a lot of people for dinner. We seem to
have the same ideas though. :-)

pandora[_2_] December 31st 10 10:08 PM

I hate "merry" Christmas.
 
On Fri, 31 Dec 2010 07:06:20 +0000, kachina wrote:

k2 said stuff on 27 Dec 2010:

On Dec 25, 9:50Â*am, " Sir Gregory Hall, Esq."
wrote:
Christmas is a celebration of the birth of Christ so what's with this
'merry' crap?

The Online dictionary definition:

mer ry
adj. mer ri er, mer ri est
1. Full of high-spirited gaiety; jolly. 2. Marked by or offering fun
and gaiety; festive: a merry evening. 3. Archaic Delightful;
entertaining.
4. Brisk: a merry pace.

It seems to me this 'merry' Christmas crap is just another way for
non-believers to take over and Â*marginalize the true meaning of
Christm

as.
It seems to me Christ's birth should be celebrated with solemn thanks
to

our
Lord for giving his only begotten son that those who believe in Him
may h

ave
everlasting life.

Getting drunk on spirits and getting bloated on too much food is
debauche

ry.
Is it proper to gives thanks to the Lord's ultimate sacrifice by
engaging

in
sinful behavior? Making Christmas all about human vices seems to me to
be very antithetical, blasphemous and sinful and no way to get to
Heaven.

--
Gregory Hall


One would imagine your childhood Christmas time was pretty bleak.
Christmas is a great time for children, more so than adults.
Overanalyizing Christmas robs the simple joy that Christmas is for
children. Sorry yours was ****ty...


I don't know, k2. I think it might be just as great a time for adults,
for different reasons. I appreciate getting the whole family together
more than I used to.

We sat down 17 to dinner on Christmas Eve, 24 for a buffet for
Christmas. It's good to have all the kids playing together.


I used to love it when I was a kid and all the family got together and us
*cousins* could sneak off alone without the grownups and just hang. I
love, today, to see my grandkids doing the same. I think when they're
all grownup they'll be good friends. And so the tradition continues.
It's FAMILY after all.

Sir Gregory Hall, Esq. December 31st 10 10:08 PM

I hate "merry" Christmas.
 
"pandora" wrote in message
news:_dqdnRia8MFDzoPQnZ2dnUVZ_judnZ2d@scnresearch. com...
snip

Drat! And here I thought I'd had a lot of people for dinner. We seem to
have the same ideas though. :-)




The same two?

--
Gregory Hall



pandora[_2_] January 4th 11 08:03 AM

I hate "merry" Christmas.
 
On Tue, 04 Jan 2011 04:17:50 +0000, kachina wrote:

pandora said stuff on 31 Dec 2010:

On Fri, 31 Dec 2010 07:02:14 +0000, kachina wrote:

pandora said stuff on 29 Dec 2010:

On Tue, 28 Dec 2010 17:12:08 -0500, Sir Gregory Hall, Esq. wrote:

"pandora" wrote in message
news:d4GdnaHy15riwIfQnZ2dnUVZ_qCdnZ2d@scnresearch. com... snip

Nah. He's just alone and lonely and desperate.



PKB!

Heh. I'm actually enjoying being alone today as I just spent the
entire weekend with 20 of my family. We ate, opened gifts, talked,
drank a lot of wine and enjoyed one another's company. It was a
special weekend as our son and his wife and daughters drove all the
way from Reno, Nevada to spend the weekend with us. We had a
wonderful time. Sorry you didn't.


hard to be lonely in a small crowd of 20. i'm glad you had a good
time. my sister and her husband and youngest came up from the ozarks
to spend the week, and we had 24 at christmas dinner, only 17 at
christmas eve dinner.


Drat! And here I thought I'd had a lot of people for dinner. We seem
to have the same ideas though. :-)


we were fewer this year. my brother joe didn't fly in from los angeles,
my sister becky and her husband were on vacation in south america, and
my brother ray didn't show up, prolly mad at somebody. he usually is. i
think our record one year was 30.


Amazing!

i prefer the independance day party, which is "mine". [we split up the
different holidays.] if people get rowdy, we kick them outside. it's a
bit cold to do that this time of year.


Indeed it is, even here. We managed though without any rowdiness this
year.

pandora[_2_] January 4th 11 08:05 AM

I hate "merry" Christmas.
 
On Tue, 04 Jan 2011 04:22:23 +0000, kachina wrote:

pandora said stuff on 31 Dec 2010:

On Fri, 31 Dec 2010 07:06:20 +0000, kachina wrote:

k2 said stuff on 27 Dec 2010:

On Dec 25, 9:50Â*am, " Sir Gregory Hall, Esq."
wrote:
Christmas is a celebration of the birth of Christ so what's with
this 'merry' crap?

The Online dictionary definition:

mer ry
adj. mer ri er, mer ri est
1. Full of high-spirited gaiety; jolly. 2. Marked by or offering fun
and gaiety; festive: a merry evening. 3. Archaic Delightful;
entertaining.
4. Brisk: a merry pace.

It seems to me this 'merry' Christmas crap is just another way for
non-believers to take over and Â*marginalize the true meaning of
Christm
as.
It seems to me Christ's birth should be celebrated with solemn
thanks to
our
Lord for giving his only begotten son that those who believe in Him
may h
ave
everlasting life.

Getting drunk on spirits and getting bloated on too much food is
debauche
ry.
Is it proper to gives thanks to the Lord's ultimate sacrifice by
engaging
in
sinful behavior? Making Christmas all about human vices seems to me
to be very antithetical, blasphemous and sinful and no way to get to
Heaven.

--
Gregory Hall

One would imagine your childhood Christmas time was pretty bleak.
Christmas is a great time for children, more so than adults.
Overanalyizing Christmas robs the simple joy that Christmas is for
children. Sorry yours was ****ty...

I don't know, k2. I think it might be just as great a time for adults,
for different reasons. I appreciate getting the whole family together
more than I used to.

We sat down 17 to dinner on Christmas Eve, 24 for a buffet for
Christmas. It's good to have all the kids playing together.


I used to love it when I was a kid and all the family got together and
us *cousins* could sneak off alone without the grownups and just hang.
I love, today, to see my grandkids doing the same. I think when
they're all grownup they'll be good friends. And so the tradition
continues. It's FAMILY after all.


like my brother mike says, people who look like us. my nephew stephen
hasn't had a lot of chance to see his cousins, and he was the funniest
of them all. he stood with the four boys closest to his age, and broke
up laughing. i had warned him that there would be a pile of boys his age
that looked just like him, and to make sure that he went home with us.
he had to admit that they looked just like him.


That's funny but can be very true. All our grandkids look more like each
other than they look like their parents. It's pretty obvious when
they're all together that they are related. Fascinating.

pandora[_2_] January 5th 11 02:01 AM

I hate "merry" Christmas.
 
On Wed, 05 Jan 2011 01:42:06 +0000, kachina wrote:

pandora said stuff on 04 Jan 2011:

On Tue, 04 Jan 2011 04:17:50 +0000, kachina wrote:

pandora said stuff on 31 Dec 2010:

On Fri, 31 Dec 2010 07:02:14 +0000, kachina wrote:

pandora said stuff on 29 Dec 2010:

On Tue, 28 Dec 2010 17:12:08 -0500, Sir Gregory Hall, Esq. wrote:

"pandora" wrote in message
news:d4GdnaHy15riwIfQnZ2dnUVZ_qCdnZ2d@scnresearch. com... snip

Nah. He's just alone and lonely and desperate.



PKB!

Heh. I'm actually enjoying being alone today as I just spent the
entire weekend with 20 of my family. We ate, opened gifts, talked,
drank a lot of wine and enjoyed one another's company. It was a
special weekend as our son and his wife and daughters drove all the
way from Reno, Nevada to spend the weekend with us. We had a
wonderful time. Sorry you didn't.


hard to be lonely in a small crowd of 20. i'm glad you had a good
time. my sister and her husband and youngest came up from the ozarks
to spend the week, and we had 24 at christmas dinner, only 17 at
christmas eve dinner.

Drat! And here I thought I'd had a lot of people for dinner. We

seem
to have the same ideas though. :-)

we were fewer this year. my brother joe didn't fly in from los

angeles,
my sister becky and her husband were on vacation in south america, and
my brother ray didn't show up, prolly mad at somebody. he usually is.

i
think our record one year was 30.


Amazing!

i prefer the independance day party, which is "mine". [we split up the
different holidays.] if people get rowdy, we kick them outside. it's a
bit cold to do that this time of year.


Indeed it is, even here. We managed though without any rowdiness this
year.


so did we, for the most part. on wednesday before christmas we got it
out of our systems with a sledding party. only one sledding accident
[me]


Hope you're okay. :-(

and one rollaround fight [2 nephews]. not bad.


Not bad at all. We sent the 3 teenagers off to walk the dogs on Saturday
while the turkey was cooking. We sent the younger 4 off to the
playground with a several aunts and uncles. The 2 month old, of course,
stayed home and did nothing but eat and sleep. The rest of us napped or
visited while I got the turkey cooked. I had everything on the table by
six pm and a hearty time was had by all.


pandora[_2_] January 5th 11 07:48 PM

I hate "merry" Christmas.
 
On Wed, 05 Jan 2011 02:54:47 +0000, kachina wrote:

pandora said stuff on 04 Jan 2011:

On Wed, 05 Jan 2011 01:42:06 +0000, kachina wrote:

pandora said stuff on 04 Jan 2011:

On Tue, 04 Jan 2011 04:17:50 +0000, kachina wrote:

pandora said stuff on 31 Dec 2010:

On Fri, 31 Dec 2010 07:02:14 +0000, kachina wrote:

pandora said stuff on 29 Dec 2010:

On Tue, 28 Dec 2010 17:12:08 -0500, Sir Gregory Hall, Esq.
wrote:

"pandora" wrote in message
news:d4GdnaHy15riwIfQnZ2dnUVZ_qCdnZ2d@scnresearch. com... snip

Nah. He's just alone and lonely and desperate.



PKB!

Heh. I'm actually enjoying being alone today as I just spent the
entire weekend with 20 of my family. We ate, opened gifts,
talked, drank a lot of wine and enjoyed one another's company. It
was a special weekend as our son and his wife and daughters drove
all the way from Reno, Nevada to spend the weekend with us. We
had a wonderful time. Sorry you didn't.


hard to be lonely in a small crowd of 20. i'm glad you had a good
time. my sister and her husband and youngest came up from the
ozarks to spend the week, and we had 24 at christmas dinner, only
17 at christmas eve dinner.

Drat! And here I thought I'd had a lot of people for dinner. We
seem
to have the same ideas though. :-)

we were fewer this year. my brother joe didn't fly in from los
angeles,
my sister becky and her husband were on vacation in south america,
and my brother ray didn't show up, prolly mad at somebody. he
usually is.
i
think our record one year was 30.

Amazing!

i prefer the independance day party, which is "mine". [we split up
the different holidays.] if people get rowdy, we kick them outside.
it's a bit cold to do that this time of year.

Indeed it is, even here. We managed though without any rowdiness
this year.


so did we, for the most part. on wednesday before christmas we got it
out of our systems with a sledding party. only one sledding accident
[me]


Hope you're okay. :-(


just a filling knocked loose, and a few bumps and bruises. dangers of
being near a bunch of little boys who can't really steer yet.


Hehehehehe. I've been there myself. My husband calls me the
"daredevil", aptly named I think.

i'm okay
y
yyy
yyy........


and one rollaround fight [2 nephews]. not bad.


Not bad at all. We sent the 3 teenagers off to walk the dogs on
Saturday while the turkey was cooking. We sent the younger 4 off to
the playground with a several aunts and uncles. The 2 month old, of
course, stayed home and did nothing but eat and sleep. The rest of us
napped or visited while I got the turkey cooked. I had everything on
the table by six pm and a hearty time was had by all.



yay!


My best friend (who also happens to be my second son's mother-in-law;
long story), has decided that I'm the hostess of the year. :-)

pandora[_2_] January 5th 11 08:59 PM

I hate "merry" Christmas.
 
On Wed, 05 Jan 2011 20:13:58 +0000, kachina wrote:

pandora said stuff on 05 Jan 2011:

On Wed, 05 Jan 2011 02:54:47 +0000, kachina wrote:

pandora said stuff on 04 Jan 2011:

On Wed, 05 Jan 2011 01:42:06 +0000, kachina wrote:

pandora said stuff on 04 Jan 2011:

On Tue, 04 Jan 2011 04:17:50 +0000, kachina wrote:

pandora said stuff on 31 Dec 2010:

On Fri, 31 Dec 2010 07:02:14 +0000, kachina wrote:

pandora said stuff on 29 Dec 2010:

On Tue, 28 Dec 2010 17:12:08 -0500, Sir Gregory Hall, Esq.
wrote:

"pandora" wrote in message
news:d4GdnaHy15riwIfQnZ2dnUVZ_qCdnZ2d@scnresearch. com...

snip

Nah. He's just alone and lonely and desperate.



PKB!

Heh. I'm actually enjoying being alone today as I just spent

the
entire weekend with 20 of my family. We ate, opened gifts,
talked, drank a lot of wine and enjoyed one another's company.

It
was a special weekend as our son and his wife and daughters

drove
all the way from Reno, Nevada to spend the weekend with us. We
had a wonderful time. Sorry you didn't.


hard to be lonely in a small crowd of 20. i'm glad you had a

good
time. my sister and her husband and youngest came up from the
ozarks to spend the week, and we had 24 at christmas dinner,

only
17 at christmas eve dinner.

Drat! And here I thought I'd had a lot of people for dinner. We
seem
to have the same ideas though. :-)

we were fewer this year. my brother joe didn't fly in from los
angeles,
my sister becky and her husband were on vacation in south america,
and my brother ray didn't show up, prolly mad at somebody. he
usually is.
i
think our record one year was 30.

Amazing!

i prefer the independance day party, which is "mine". [we split up
the different holidays.] if people get rowdy, we kick them

outside.
it's a bit cold to do that this time of year.

Indeed it is, even here. We managed though without any rowdiness
this year.


so did we, for the most part. on wednesday before christmas we got

it
out of our systems with a sledding party. only one sledding accident
[me]

Hope you're okay. :-(

just a filling knocked loose, and a few bumps and bruises. dangers of
being near a bunch of little boys who can't really steer yet.


Hehehehehe. I've been there myself. My husband calls me the
"daredevil", aptly named I think.

i'm okay
y
yyy
yyy........


and one rollaround fight [2 nephews]. not bad.

Not bad at all. We sent the 3 teenagers off to walk the dogs on
Saturday while the turkey was cooking. We sent the younger 4 off to
the playground with a several aunts and uncles. The 2 month old, of
course, stayed home and did nothing but eat and sleep. The rest of

us
napped or visited while I got the turkey cooked. I had everything on
the table by six pm and a hearty time was had by all.



yay!


My best friend (who also happens to be my second son's mother-in-law;
long story), has decided that I'm the hostess of the year. :-)


it's nice to be appreciated.


Indeed it is. VERY nice. Makes me want to do even more. Perhaps a
Valentine's Dinner? Since that is our daughter's birthday, that would be
a good day. Or maybe not....

Sir Gregory Hall, Esq. January 5th 11 09:05 PM

I hate "merry" Christmas.
 
"pandora" wrote in message
news:2padnRnB0OhWRrnQnZ2dnUVZ_qGdnZ2d@scnresearch. com...
On Wed, 05 Jan 2011 02:54:47 +0000, kachina wrote:



trimmed about 200, old, worthless lines

it's nice to be appreciated.


Indeed it is. VERY nice. Makes me want to do even more. Perhaps a
Valentine's Dinner? Since that is our daughter's birthday, that would be
a good day. Or maybe not....




Well, I would sure appreciate it if you two would learn to trim . . .


--
Gregory Hall




Kevin Hall January 5th 11 09:10 PM

I hate "merry" Christmas.
 
Ah, so it's fine for semi-professional God-botherers to force feed their
particular brand of superstition on the rest of us, but those who push back
are beyond the pale. Neat.
KH


"O.K. Urknext" wrote in message
...
On Dec 25, 11:07 am, " Sir Gregory Hall, Esq."
wrote:
"O.K. Urknext" wrote in message

...
On Dec 25, 10:50 am, " Sir Gregory Hall, Esq."
wrote:





Christmas is a celebration of the birth of Christ so what's with this
'merry' crap?


The Online dictionary definition:


mer ry
adj. mer ri er, mer ri est
1. Full of high-spirited gaiety; jolly.
2. Marked by or offering fun and gaiety; festive: a merry evening.
3. Archaic Delightful; entertaining.
4. Brisk: a merry pace.


It seems to me this 'merry' Christmas crap is just another way for
non-believers to take over and marginalize the true meaning of
Christmas.
It seems to me Christ's birth should be celebrated with solemn thanks to
our
Lord for giving his only begotten son that those who believe in Him may
have
everlasting life.


Getting drunk on spirits and getting bloated on too much food is
debauchery.
Is it proper to gives thanks to the Lord's ultimate sacrifice by
engaging
in
sinful behavior? Making Christmas all about human vices seems to me to
be
very antithetical, blasphemous and sinful and no way to get to Heaven.


--
Gregory Hall


:: Enjoy your Christmas the way you want. Why get all testy about what
:: others do?
::
:: Charlie

I get all testy because somebody has GOT to give the opposing view.

Just because some think they have the right to force their unholy version
of
Christmas on me by wishing me a 'merry' Christmas and they expect me to go
along with their debasing the most important Christian celebration does
not
mean I have to bear it silently.

--
Gregory Hall- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


WWJD



pandora[_2_] January 5th 11 09:51 PM

I hate "merry" Christmas.
 
On Wed, 05 Jan 2011 16:05:27 -0500, Sir Gregory Hall, Esq. wrote:

"pandora" wrote in message
news:2padnRnB0OhWRrnQnZ2dnUVZ_qGdnZ2d@scnresearch. com...
On Wed, 05 Jan 2011 02:54:47 +0000, kachina wrote:



trimmed about 200, old, worthless lines

it's nice to be appreciated.


Indeed it is. VERY nice. Makes me want to do even more. Perhaps a
Valentine's Dinner? Since that is our daughter's birthday, that would
be a good day. Or maybe not....




Well, I would sure appreciate it if you two would learn to trim . . .


Tough.

Sir Gregory Hall, Esq. January 5th 11 10:23 PM

I hate "merry" Christmas.
 
"pandora" wrote in message
news:2padnRvB0OhiernQnZ2dnUVZ_qGdnZ2d@scnresearch. com...
On Wed, 05 Jan 2011 16:05:27 -0500, Sir Gregory Hall, Esq. wrote:

"pandora" wrote in message
news:2padnRnB0OhWRrnQnZ2dnUVZ_qGdnZ2d@scnresearch. com...
On Wed, 05 Jan 2011 02:54:47 +0000, kachina wrote:



trimmed about 200, old, worthless lines

it's nice to be appreciated.

Indeed it is. VERY nice. Makes me want to do even more. Perhaps a
Valentine's Dinner? Since that is our daughter's birthday, that would
be a good day. Or maybe not....




Well, I would sure appreciate it if you two would learn to trim . . .


Tough.





You're such a liar. You typed, "Indeed it is" in reply to Kachina comment
about it's nice to be appreciated.

When I said I'd appreciate it if you'd learn to trim, instead of learning to
trim and receiving my appreciation you typed, "Tough" which indicates to me
you don't really think it's nice to be appreciated or you wouldn't have
blown the chance of being appreciated.

--
Gregory Hall



pandora[_2_] January 6th 11 01:34 AM

I hate "merry" Christmas.
 
On Wed, 05 Jan 2011 17:23:48 -0500, Sir Gregory Hall, Esq. wrote:

"pandora" wrote in message
news:2padnRvB0OhiernQnZ2dnUVZ_qGdnZ2d@scnresearch. com...
On Wed, 05 Jan 2011 16:05:27 -0500, Sir Gregory Hall, Esq. wrote:

"pandora" wrote in message
news:2padnRnB0OhWRrnQnZ2dnUVZ_qGdnZ2d@scnresearch. com...
On Wed, 05 Jan 2011 02:54:47 +0000, kachina wrote:


trimmed about 200, old, worthless lines

it's nice to be appreciated.

Indeed it is. VERY nice. Makes me want to do even more. Perhaps a
Valentine's Dinner? Since that is our daughter's birthday, that
would be a good day. Or maybe not....



Well, I would sure appreciate it if you two would learn to trim . . .


Tough.





You're such a liar. You typed, "Indeed it is" in reply to Kachina
comment about it's nice to be appreciated.

When I said I'd appreciate it if you'd learn to trim, instead of
learning to trim and receiving my appreciation you typed, "Tough" which
indicates to me you don't really think it's nice to be appreciated or
you wouldn't have blown the chance of being appreciated.


From you? What makes you think I care if you appreciate me or not?

I January 6th 11 12:13 PM

I hate "merry" Christmas.
 
kachina wrote:
I said stuff on 30 Dec 2010:

Sir Gregory Hall, Esq. wrote:
"pandora" wrote in message
news:d4GdnaXy15qVwYfQnZ2dnUVZ_qCdnZ2d@scnresearch. com...

Keep your religion to yourself (as instructed to do in your bible)
and no one will bother you. Real simple.


As usual you know nothing, Pandora. And, you appear to know even less
about the Bible.

As Christians, the Bible says to NOT to keep Christianity to
ourselves. Rather, the Bible teaches us to spread our religion
throughout the world.

Matthew 28:18 - And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power
is given unto me in heaven and in earth.
Matthew 28:19 -Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing
them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy
Ghost: Matthew 28:20 - Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever
I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you always, even unto the
end of the world. Amen.

Jesus was speaking to his disciples, not to all men. See Matthew
28:16-17 where it makes it clear he was only speaking to the eleven
disciples.

In Matthew 6:5-8, when speaking to the multitude he tells them to pray
in secret, not out in public as the hypocrites do.

Further, in Matthew 7:21-23 he makes it clear that doing things in his
name, even prophesying and casting out demons, is not enough to gain
entry into heaven.

Mark 16:15 - And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and
preach the gospel to every creature.
Mark 16:16 - He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he
that believeth not shall be damned.

In Mark 16:14 he makes it clear he is only talking to the disciples;
also Mark 3:14.

It is plain as day that Christians are tasked to spread the Gospel.

Then why, in Matthew 9:30 does Jesus instruct the blind men not to
tell anyone he healed them?


well done.


Thank you.

the bible can be used to prove almost anything.


Yep.

i like ecclesiates. it has a paraphrase of the apache death chant in it.


There's a good deal of wisdom in it, even if much of it is on the
depressing side.

--

Greg's wrong guesses so far:

Aratzio
Spooge
MAABOF
Vince
Deco
Mike/Bill (?)
Johnny Dollar


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