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On Mon, 14 Jun 2010 16:48:19 -0400, Gogarty
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http://www.nextenergynews.com/news1/...cro-nuclear-12
.17b.html


Wilbur Hubbard


Twenty feet by six feet? Can't see getting that into my forty-footer.

No, but half again to 10 feet by 3 feet is barely bigger than the
average engine in a sport fishing boat.

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On Mon, 14 Jun 2010 17:51:40 -0400, wrote:

There have been nuclear powered subs for quite a long time, Wayne.
It's not really a secret. :-)

Yes but those reactors are the size of a trawler, not sized for a
trawler. My idea of small scale is something that fits in a large
closet or similar.

I think hydrogen fuel cells have a lot more promise for this
application! Maybe just a few years away.

I hope you're right.

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On 6/15/10 6:37 AM, wrote:
On Mon, 14 Jun 2010 20:01:19 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Mon, 14 Jun 2010 16:48:19 -0400,
wrote:

http://www.nextenergynews.com/news1/...cro-nuclear-12
.17b.html


Wilbur Hubbard


Twenty feet by six feet? Can't see getting that into my forty-footer.

No, but half again to 10 feet by 3 feet is barely bigger than the
average engine in a sport fishing boat.

I'm guessing that weight is a far more serious obstacle than
dimensions. A compact reactor will be mostly lead containment.



Well, there certainly aren't any "issues" in connection with the safe
operation of a nuclear reactor. Yeah...that's the ticket. And hydrogen?
Just the ticket for small boats beaten up in rough oceans...call your
boat, oh, how about Hindenburg II?

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Gogarty wrote:
In article ,
says...
I wouldn't want to do a non-stop. Wouldn't be doing it for any record or
bragging rites, but rather to see the sites and enjoy the trip and people
encountered along the way like you or someone else wrote earlier.
Just can't imagine sailing past all those beautiful South Pacific islands
and not wanting to visit.


For a sobering look and a good read about those beautiful South
Pacific islands, read "The Sex Lives of Cannibals" by J Marten Troost.
It's a bit of a wake up.
G

Miss Lonely Hearts. Typee.


And speaking of beautiful South Pacific islands. You've all heard how
some of them are sinking into the ocean and villages are disappearing
underwater all due to global warming and rising seas.
I often wondered why it was only some of them and now I see the light!
http://www.winnipegfreepress.com/bre...-95487019.html
G

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On Mon, 14 Jun 2010 20:46:06 -0400, Wayne.B
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On Mon, 14 Jun 2010 17:51:40 -0400, wrote:

There have been nuclear powered subs for quite a long time, Wayne.
It's not really a secret. :-)

Yes but those reactors are the size of a trawler, not sized for a
trawler. My idea of small scale is something that fits in a large
closet or similar.

I think hydrogen fuel cells have a lot more promise for this
application! Maybe just a few years away.

I hope you're right.

It would certainly open up some possibilities!




No it won't open up any possibilities. Just where do you think you're gonna
be able to get your tanks filled with hydrogen? Duh! There is not one
single marina offering hydrogen fills to date. Total pie in the sky is what
you're talking about.


Wilbur Hubbard

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On Tue, 15 Jun 2010 12:26:33 -0400, "Wilbur Hubbard"
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On Mon, 14 Jun 2010 20:46:06 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Mon, 14 Jun 2010 17:51:40 -0400, wrote:

There have been nuclear powered subs for quite a long time, Wayne.
It's not really a secret. :-)

Yes but those reactors are the size of a trawler, not sized for a
trawler. My idea of small scale is something that fits in a large
closet or similar.

I think hydrogen fuel cells have a lot more promise for this
application! Maybe just a few years away.

I hope you're right.

It would certainly open up some possibilities!




No it won't open up any possibilities. Just where do you think you're
gonna
be able to get your tanks filled with hydrogen? Duh! There is not one
single marina offering hydrogen fills to date. Total pie in the sky is
what
you're talking about.


Wilbur Hubbard


Yeah, and those stupid Wright Brothers. Didn't they realize that there
were no airports for airplanes to use?




Poppycock. Why do you think they used the beach for their flight? Natural
airport, huh?

So, stop with the dumb side-stepping and explain how a handful of Rubes
geeking around with hydrogen fuel cells are going to inspire marinas to go
to the very great expense of providing hydrogen for customers who are not
forthcoming?

Wilbur Hubbard

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On Tue, 15 Jun 2010 12:26:33 -0400, "Wilbur Hubbard"
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On Mon, 14 Jun 2010 20:46:06 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Mon, 14 Jun 2010 17:51:40 -0400, wrote:

There have been nuclear powered subs for quite a long time, Wayne.
It's not really a secret. :-)

Yes but those reactors are the size of a trawler, not sized for a
trawler. My idea of small scale is something that fits in a large
closet or similar.

I think hydrogen fuel cells have a lot more promise for this
application! Maybe just a few years away.

I hope you're right.

It would certainly open up some possibilities!




No it won't open up any possibilities. Just where do you think you're
gonna
be able to get your tanks filled with hydrogen? Duh! There is not one
single marina offering hydrogen fills to date. Total pie in the sky is
what
you're talking about.


Wilbur Hubbard


Yeah, and those stupid Wright Brothers. Didn't they realize that there
were no airports for airplanes to use?




Poppycock. Why do you think they used the beach for their flight? Natural
airport, huh?


Yeah, but why try to develop airplanes without an infrastructure
already in place to make them commercially viable?

I think your shoelaces are untied...




I think you've missed the point entirely. The Wright brothers weren't the
least bit interested in a commercial or private aircraft industry. They were
just out to show people could fly a heavier than air machine.


Wilbur Hubbard

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On Mon, 14 Jun 2010 20:46:06 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Mon, 14 Jun 2010 17:51:40 -0400, wrote:

There have been nuclear powered subs for quite a long time,
Wayne.
It's not really a secret. :-)

Yes but those reactors are the size of a trawler, not sized for a
trawler. My idea of small scale is something that fits in a large
closet or similar.

I think hydrogen fuel cells have a lot more promise for this
application! Maybe just a few years away.

I hope you're right.

It would certainly open up some possibilities!




No it won't open up any possibilities. Just where do you think you're
gonna
be able to get your tanks filled with hydrogen? Duh! There is not one
single marina offering hydrogen fills to date. Total pie in the sky is
what
you're talking about.


Wilbur Hubbard


Yeah, and those stupid Wright Brothers. Didn't they realize that there
were no airports for airplanes to use?




Poppycock. Why do you think they used the beach for their flight?
Natural
airport, huh?


Yeah, but why try to develop airplanes without an infrastructure
already in place to make them commercially viable?

I think your shoelaces are untied...




I think you've missed the point entirely. The Wright brothers weren't the
least bit interested in a commercial or private aircraft industry. They
were
just out to show people could fly a heavier than air machine.


Wilbur Hubbard


I KNOW your shoelaces are untied.



For your information, I wear sandals that have hook and loop fasteners on
the straps. When I'm not wearing sandals I'm bare footed.

Wilbur Hubbard

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On Tue, 15 Jun 2010 11:33:02 -0400, wrote:

If you are correct that it takes more electricity to make the hydrogen
than the amount of electricity a fuel cell produces, then how do you
explain the savings realized by public buildings powered by fuel
cells?

Are those buildings using hydrogen or natural gas as input to the fuel
cell?

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On Tue, 15 Jun 2010 08:08:03 -0700, Gordon wrote:

And speaking of beautiful South Pacific islands. You've all heard how
some of them are sinking into the ocean and villages are disappearing
underwater all due to global warming and rising seas.

I kind of thought our boat was floating a little higher this morning.
How long until we reach the moon?