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However, you raise a useful point WRT the presumption that most of it was aimed at my logs. If they're not of general interest, it will save me a step not to bother putting them up here... L8R Skip, connected between Big Majors and Staniel Cays, Exumas Bahamas -- Morgan 461 #2 SV Flying Pig KI4MPC See our galleries at www.justpickone.org/skip/gallery ! Follow us at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/TheFlyingPigLog and/or http://groups.google.com/group/flyingpiglog "You are never given a wish without also being given the power to make it come true. You may have to work for it however." (and) "There is no such thing as a problem without a gift for you in its hand. You seek problems because you need their gifts." (Richard Bach, in Illusions - The Reluctant Messiah) |
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On 5/29/10 9:58 AM, Flying Pig wrote:
:{)) However, you raise a useful point WRT the presumption that most of it was aimed at my logs. If they're not of general interest, it will save me a step not to bother putting them up here... L8R Skip, connected between Big Majors and Staniel Cays, Exumas Bahamas I get a kick out of them. I don't read them all, but I enjoy the ones I do read. Further, your posts have convinced me that the cruising life is not something I'd enjoy. I like boating, but not the endless maintenance what you do seems to entail. I like your attitude,too. Carry on. -- The Tea Party's teabaggers are just the Republican base by another name. |
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"hk" wrote in message
... I get a kick out of them. I don't read them all, but I enjoy the ones I do read. Further, your posts have convinced me that the cruising life is not something I'd enjoy. I like boating, but not the endless maintenance what you do seems to entail. Skippy doesn't know what the real cruising life is all about. His main problem is his boat's too big and complicated and he's got it loaded with every conceivable, lubberly, unnecessary and breakdown prone "convenience" which always turns out to be quite inconvenient when it breaks down and he has to repair or replace it. Hence, he's become a systems slave. So, don't get the wrong idea. Cruising should be simple and relatively trouble free. A real cruiser spends the majority of his time sitting in the cockpit observing and tweaking his sails while scanning the horizon. Next is food and beverage consumption. Following that is sleep. Maintenance constitutes perhaps 2% of his time. And, a real cruiser leaves the distaff side home where she belongs. Women on sailboats require too much pampering and they take up too much space and they consume way excessively such scarce resources such as fresh water. Not only that, but they bring bad luck. Wilbur Hubbard (spends more time drinking beer than working on failed and failing systems) |
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Wilbur Hubbard wrote:
"hk" wrote in message ... I get a kick out of them. I don't read them all, but I enjoy the ones I do read. Further, your posts have convinced me that the cruising life is not something I'd enjoy. I like boating, but not the endless maintenance what you do seems to entail. Skippy doesn't know what the real cruising life is all about. His main problem is his boat's too big and complicated and he's got it loaded with every conceivable, lubberly, unnecessary and breakdown prone "convenience" which always turns out to be quite inconvenient when it breaks down and he has to repair or replace it. Hence, he's become a systems slave. So, don't get the wrong idea. Cruising should be simple and relatively trouble free. A real cruiser spends the majority of his time sitting in the cockpit observing and tweaking his sails while scanning the horizon. Next is food and beverage consumption. Following that is sleep. Maintenance constitutes perhaps 2% of his time. And, a real cruiser leaves the distaff side home where she belongs. Women on sailboats require too much pampering and they take up too much space and they consume way excessively such scarce resources such as fresh water. Not only that, but they bring bad luck. Wilbur Hubbard (spends more time drinking beer than working on failed and failing systems) Would you quit whining about Skip and do something your own bad self? I *LIKE* having women on board! -- Richard Lamb |
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"cavelamb" wrote in message
m... Wilbur Hubbard wrote: "hk" wrote in message ... I get a kick out of them. I don't read them all, but I enjoy the ones I do read. Further, your posts have convinced me that the cruising life is not something I'd enjoy. I like boating, but not the endless maintenance what you do seems to entail. Skippy doesn't know what the real cruising life is all about. His main problem is his boat's too big and complicated and he's got it loaded with every conceivable, lubberly, unnecessary and breakdown prone "convenience" which always turns out to be quite inconvenient when it breaks down and he has to repair or replace it. Hence, he's become a systems slave. So, don't get the wrong idea. Cruising should be simple and relatively trouble free. A real cruiser spends the majority of his time sitting in the cockpit observing and tweaking his sails while scanning the horizon. Next is food and beverage consumption. Following that is sleep. Maintenance constitutes perhaps 2% of his time. And, a real cruiser leaves the distaff side home where she belongs. Women on sailboats require too much pampering and they take up too much space and they consume way excessively such scarce resources such as fresh water. Not only that, but they bring bad luck. Wilbur Hubbard (spends more time drinking beer than working on failed and failing systems) Would you quit whining about Skip and do something your own bad self? I *LIKE* having women on board! Women are nest builders. Every real man knows that. A sailboat is the very poorest of nests and no woman will be really happy and fulfilled cruising long-term in such an insecure and transient contraption. Buy the woman a nice home ashore and visit her from time to time as a break from cruising and both man and woman will be the happier for it. Wilbur Hubbard |
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On Sat, 29 May 2010 18:34:37 -0500, cavelamb
wrote: Wilbur Hubbard wrote: "hk" wrote in message ... I get a kick out of them. I don't read them all, but I enjoy the ones I do read. Further, your posts have convinced me that the cruising life is not something I'd enjoy. I like boating, but not the endless maintenance what you do seems to entail. Skippy doesn't know what the real cruising life is all about. His main problem is his boat's too big and complicated and he's got it loaded with every conceivable, lubberly, unnecessary and breakdown prone "convenience" which always turns out to be quite inconvenient when it breaks down and he has to repair or replace it. Hence, he's become a systems slave. So, don't get the wrong idea. Cruising should be simple and relatively trouble free. A real cruiser spends the majority of his time sitting in the cockpit observing and tweaking his sails while scanning the horizon. Next is food and beverage consumption. Following that is sleep. Maintenance constitutes perhaps 2% of his time. And, a real cruiser leaves the distaff side home where she belongs. Women on sailboats require too much pampering and they take up too much space and they consume way excessively such scarce resources such as fresh water. Not only that, but they bring bad luck. Wilbur Hubbard (spends more time drinking beer than working on failed and failing systems) Would you quit whining about Skip and do something your own bad self? I *LIKE* having women on board! It is called "rationalization", in other words if you are unable to get one you say "I don't want one". Sour grapes, in other words... |
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Women are nest builders. Wilbur Hubbard Dear wilbur. i agree at times however here you are wrong making a blanket statment. I met two women while attend my Lifeboatman course a year and a half ago. I belive I was criticized for doing so by someone here. They were employed on one of the tall ships working the west coast, worked aloft, and had a shake that felt between a riggers screw and a carpenters block. extreamly agil, knowldgable and sea worthy women. then there was the woman giving sailing lesson at the bottom of lake union in Seattle, WA. again another tall ship sailor only she was a 500 ton mate. we had a great conversatoin on worm-parcil-serving splices. again I would sail with any of those seaman on any oceans. So you see. Not all woman are fat frumpy cows. Many are extreamly capable sailors. You just have to know where to look. Bob |
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On Sat, 29 May 2010 19:41:51 -0700, Mark Borgerson
wrote: In article s.com, says... "cavelamb" wrote in message m... Wilbur Hubbard wrote: "hk" wrote in message ... I get a kick out of them. I don't read them all, but I enjoy the ones I do read. Further, your posts have convinced me that the cruising life is not something I'd enjoy. I like boating, but not the endless maintenance what you do seems to entail. Skippy doesn't know what the real cruising life is all about. His main problem is his boat's too big and complicated and he's got it loaded with every conceivable, lubberly, unnecessary and breakdown prone "convenience" which always turns out to be quite inconvenient when it breaks down and he has to repair or replace it. Hence, he's become a systems slave. So, don't get the wrong idea. Cruising should be simple and relatively trouble free. A real cruiser spends the majority of his time sitting in the cockpit observing and tweaking his sails while scanning the horizon. Next is food and beverage consumption. Following that is sleep. Maintenance constitutes perhaps 2% of his time. And, a real cruiser leaves the distaff side home where she belongs. Women on sailboats require too much pampering and they take up too much space and they consume way excessively such scarce resources such as fresh water. Not only that, but they bring bad luck. Wilbur Hubbard (spends more time drinking beer than working on failed and failing systems) Would you quit whining about Skip and do something your own bad self? I *LIKE* having women on board! Women are nest builders. Every real man knows that. A sailboat is the very poorest of nests and no woman will be really happy and fulfilled cruising long-term in such an insecure and transient contraption. Buy the woman a nice home ashore and visit her from time to time as a break from cruising and both man and woman will be the happier for it. Larry Pardey would probably disagree with you. He's got the miles and years at sea to make his opinion count. Mark Borgerson And I believe that Lin agrees with him :-) |
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"Bruce" wrote in message
... On Sat, 29 May 2010 19:41:51 -0700, Mark Borgerson wrote: In article s.com, says... "cavelamb" wrote in message m... Wilbur Hubbard wrote: "hk" wrote in message ... I get a kick out of them. I don't read them all, but I enjoy the ones I do read. Further, your posts have convinced me that the cruising life is not something I'd enjoy. I like boating, but not the endless maintenance what you do seems to entail. Skippy doesn't know what the real cruising life is all about. His main problem is his boat's too big and complicated and he's got it loaded with every conceivable, lubberly, unnecessary and breakdown prone "convenience" which always turns out to be quite inconvenient when it breaks down and he has to repair or replace it. Hence, he's become a systems slave. So, don't get the wrong idea. Cruising should be simple and relatively trouble free. A real cruiser spends the majority of his time sitting in the cockpit observing and tweaking his sails while scanning the horizon. Next is food and beverage consumption. Following that is sleep. Maintenance constitutes perhaps 2% of his time. And, a real cruiser leaves the distaff side home where she belongs. Women on sailboats require too much pampering and they take up too much space and they consume way excessively such scarce resources such as fresh water. Not only that, but they bring bad luck. Wilbur Hubbard (spends more time drinking beer than working on failed and failing systems) Would you quit whining about Skip and do something your own bad self? I *LIKE* having women on board! Women are nest builders. Every real man knows that. A sailboat is the very poorest of nests and no woman will be really happy and fulfilled cruising long-term in such an insecure and transient contraption. Buy the woman a nice home ashore and visit her from time to time as a break from cruising and both man and woman will be the happier for it. Larry Pardey would probably disagree with you. He's got the miles and years at sea to make his opinion count. Mark Borgerson And I believe that Lin agrees with him :-) Oh, give me a freaking BREAK! One rare exception does not a rule prove. Wilbur Hubbard. |
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"Bob" wrote in message
... Women are nest builders. Wilbur Hubbard Dear wilbur. i agree at times however here you are wrong making a blanket statment. I met two women while attend my Lifeboatman course a year and a half ago. I belive I was criticized for doing so by someone here. They were employed on one of the tall ships working the west coast, worked aloft, and had a shake that felt between a riggers screw and a carpenters block. extreamly agil, knowldgable and sea worthy women. then there was the woman giving sailing lesson at the bottom of lake union in Seattle, WA. again another tall ship sailor only she was a 500 ton mate. we had a great conversatoin on worm-parcil-serving splices. again I would sail with any of those seaman on any oceans. So you see. Not all woman are fat frumpy cows. Many are extreamly capable sailors. You just have to know where to look. Bob There are lots of dykes nowadays! Who needs a woman pretending to be a man? Wilbur Hubbard |
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"Bruce" wrote in message
... It is called "rationalization", in other words if you are unable to get one you say "I don't want one". Sour grapes, in other words... I happen to be handsome, rich and desirable. But, women, with a rare exception,(believe me) are totally put off by the thought of living aboard a small sailboat for extended periods of time. I can get all the attractive women I want. But who needs an attractive woman who will, 99% of the time, hate cruising. Them's the facts, boys. . . Wilbur Hubbard |
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On May 30, 3:43*pm, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote: But who needs an attractive woman who will, 99% of the time, hate cruising. Them's the facts, boys. . . Wilbur Hubbard trust me willbur those tall ship women were not dykes with (marlin) spikes. I do agree 99,999% of republican-teabagger women from Ohio and other bible thumping areas dont have what it takes to cruise...... but the analogy is: If you want a snowball dont go looking in Brownsville, TX. Try places like Seattle, Port Townsend, WA or Astoria, or Aberdene IDK about the NE but asume its the same up there. Just dont go to a republican state and expect to get good head and therefore dont go to a republican state and expect to find a good woman capable and willing to go cruising. Its all about proper attitude somthing a republican woman lacks. When I was a NMFS fishery biologist I met plenty of capable interesting and ****able outdoorsy women. You just have to know where to look.Oh and this new crop of 25-35 yo are a real hoot. Hell they grew up singing katy Pery's song, I Kissed A Girl..... youtube it if you havnt seen the video. In other words I have to agree with your shallow assessment but admonish your for not having a representative sample nor a thorough understanding of MODERN women (ie under 30 yo). They are a different kind of woman. I think that even you would be amazed ! I sure am :) Bob |
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In article
, Bob wrote: On May 30, 3:43*pm, "Wilbur Hubbard" wrote: But who needs an attractive woman who will, 99% of the time, hate cruising. Them's the facts, boys. . . Wilbur Hubbard trust me willbur those tall ship women were not dykes with (marlin) spikes. I do agree 99,999% of republican-teabagger women from Ohio and other bible thumping areas dont have what it takes to cruise...... but the analogy is: If you want a snowball dont go looking in Brownsville, TX. Try places like Seattle, Port Townsend, WA or Astoria, or Aberdene IDK about the NE but asume its the same up there. Just dont go to a republican state and expect to get good head and therefore dont go to a republican state and expect to find a good woman capable and willing to go cruising. Its all about proper attitude somthing a republican woman lacks. When I was a NMFS fishery biologist I met plenty of capable interesting and ****able outdoorsy women. You just have to know where to look.Oh and this new crop of 25-35 yo are a real hoot. Hell they grew up singing katy Pery's song, I Kissed A Girl..... youtube it if you havnt seen the video. In other words I have to agree with your shallow assessment but admonish your for not having a representative sample nor a thorough understanding of MODERN women (ie under 30 yo). They are a different kind of woman. I think that even you would be amazed ! I sure am :) Bob HECK, You want a CRUISING WOMAN, come up to Alaska, we got a bunch of them, and I suspect any one of them, could kick Old Wibur's Ass from one end of the dock to the other and back.... He is just another Fair Weather sailor.... |
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"Bob" wrote in message
... On May 30, 3:43 pm, "Wilbur Hubbard" wrote: But who needs an attractive woman who will, 99% of the time, hate cruising. Them's the facts, boys. . . Wilbur Hubbard trust me willbur those tall ship women were not dykes with (marlin) spikes. I do agree 99,999% of republican-teabagger women from Ohio snipped totally untenable suggestion which smacks of feminism Good grief, but that's the worst suggestion I ever heard - get a liberal woman to cruise with? My GAWD! You're asking me to exist in purgatory. No liberal woman would last five minutes aboard my sailboat before she would be seen walking the plank being prodded in her fat, worthless, liberal ass with a boat hook. Do you know what a nightmare it would be for a conservative man being subjected to the mung and drool liberal women would constantly dribble out of their uppity mouths? "Save the whales, stop global warming, hug the trees, let's go see a Broadway play, let's all drive electric cars, one square of toilet paper allowed per defecation episode, we demand our abortion rights, save the starving Ethiopian children, equal pay for males and females, gay rights, close Guantanamo Bay, one year paid leave for pregnancy . . ." Gags me - just gags me!!! Any liberal woman who stepped foot aboard my boat would be seen, in very short order, walking the plank prodded in the ass by a sharp boat hook with a sock stuffed in her pie hole and weighed down with about fifty pounds of old rusty anchor chain. Wilbur Hubbard |
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My GAWD! You're asking me to exist in purgatory. No liberal woman would last five minutes aboard my sailboat and that wilbur is your paradox. The only women who are capable mariners are the kind you cant stand becuase of they are capable. You will never find a teabagging granny who belives as you do AND at the same time be a capable sailor. You poor guy......... Do you know what a nightmare it would be for a conservative man being subjected to the mung and drool liberal women would constantly dribble out of their uppity mouths? There ya go again wilbur sounds like ur just not strong enough man or confident enough man to sail with a capable woman. You should work on that insacurity comlex you have. having sex is much more fun with a confident woman. They like to do things a republican woman wouldnt do or dont know how to do............... Republican women come in two types: the sheepish tradtional betty crocker republican types and the Sara palin ball buster bithches who want to run the show. Ever notice how her husband jsut stands aound looking peacful all the time? Its bcause he aint got no balls. Sara sniped those off early on. Now, for me. Give me a good liber girl from ALASKA or the PNW. Theyll show ya a good time and will hold you to a good conversatoin too. You can keep those lap dogs and ball busters. Id prefer to sail with a capable shipmate that also gives good head. bob |
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On Mon, 31 May 2010 19:39:01 -0400, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote: "Bob" wrote in message ... On May 30, 3:43 pm, "Wilbur Hubbard" wrote: But who needs an attractive woman who will, 99% of the time, hate cruising. Them's the facts, boys. . . Wilbur Hubbard trust me willbur those tall ship women were not dykes with (marlin) spikes. I do agree 99,999% of republican-teabagger women from Ohio snipped totally untenable suggestion which smacks of feminism Good grief, but that's the worst suggestion I ever heard - get a liberal woman to cruise with? My GAWD! You're asking me to exist in purgatory. No liberal woman would last five minutes aboard my sailboat before she would be seen walking the plank being prodded in her fat, worthless, liberal ass with a boat hook. Do you know what a nightmare it would be for a conservative man being subjected to the mung and drool liberal women would constantly dribble out of their uppity mouths? "Save the whales, stop global warming, hug the trees, let's go see a Broadway play, let's all drive electric cars, one square of toilet paper allowed per defecation episode, we demand our abortion rights, save the starving Ethiopian children, equal pay for males and females, gay rights, close Guantanamo Bay, one year paid leave for pregnancy . . ." Gags me - just gags me!!! Any liberal woman who stepped foot aboard my boat would be seen, in very short order, walking the plank prodded in the ass by a sharp boat hook with a sock stuffed in her pie hole and weighed down with about fifty pounds of old rusty anchor chain. Wilbur Hubbard And young nubile boys are just so much more attractive, right? Cheers, Bruce (bruceinbangkokatgmaildotcom) |
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... snipped And young nubile boys are just so much more attractive, right? Says the bloke living in the land of 'lady boys'? LOL Wilbur Hubbard |
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Wilbur Hubbard wrote:
Gags me - just gags me!!! Any liberal woman who stepped foot aboard my boat would be seen, in very short order, walking the plank prodded in the ass by a sharp boat hook with a sock stuffed in her pie hole and weighed down with about fifty pounds of old rusty anchor chain. Wilbur Hubbard 2:15 AM. We just got home from an evening cruise. Anchored out for an hour or so just to watch the stars. I've set up an anchor on the stern rail so I can drop is if I need to without having to wander forward to do so. It worked fine. Drop off the stern then transfer to the bow cheat to point at the moon! (We saw some small satellite fly over. Too small to be the ISS. Dunno. It's wasn't on any of my schedules. But it was definitely on orbit) D brought us in. Yep, all by her own bad self. Some guys here won't let their girls even handle the tiller. I'm different, I guess. I like having a competent crew. Willy, I believe you are afraid of women. Did the courts do that? Or did it come - naturally? -- Richard Lamb |
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Wilbur Hubbard wrote:
"Bruce" wrote in message ... snipped And young nubile boys are just so much more attractive, right? Says the bloke living in the land of 'lady boys'? LOL Wilbur Hubbard Chill, bitch. I think he gotcha! -- Richard Lamb |
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On Tue, 01 Jun 2010 02:27:15 -0500, cavelamb
wrote: Wilbur Hubbard wrote: "Bruce" wrote in message ... snipped And young nubile boys are just so much more attractive, right? Says the bloke living in the land of 'lady boys'? LOL Wilbur Hubbard Chill, bitch. I think he gotcha! The fact that you live in a country that doesn't demonize homosexuals has about as much reference to anything as the fact that you live in the land of Cubans... Cheers, Bruce (bruceinbangkokatgmaildotcom) |
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On Tue, 01 Jun 2010 02:26:39 -0500, cavelamb
wrote: Wilbur Hubbard wrote: Gags me - just gags me!!! Any liberal woman who stepped foot aboard my boat would be seen, in very short order, walking the plank prodded in the ass by a sharp boat hook with a sock stuffed in her pie hole and weighed down with about fifty pounds of old rusty anchor chain. Wilbur Hubbard 2:15 AM. We just got home from an evening cruise. Anchored out for an hour or so just to watch the stars. I've set up an anchor on the stern rail so I can drop is if I need to without having to wander forward to do so. It worked fine. Drop off the stern then transfer to the bow cheat to point at the moon! (We saw some small satellite fly over. Too small to be the ISS. Dunno. It's wasn't on any of my schedules. But it was definitely on orbit) D brought us in. Yep, all by her own bad self. Some guys here won't let their girls even handle the tiller. I'm different, I guess. I like having a competent crew. Willy, I believe you are afraid of women. Did the courts do that? Or did it come - naturally? Forget about Wilbur for a moment. How do you have your anchor rigged? Are you using all rope or a chain leader? I assume that you drag out some rode and carry the anchor back and hang it on the stern pulpit and just toss it overboard when you want to stop. But how about retrieving it? Cheers, Bruce (bruceinbangkokatgmaildotcom) |
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"Bruce" wrote in message ... On Mon, 31 May 2010 19:39:01 -0400, "Wilbur Hubbard" wrote: "Bob" wrote in message ... On May 30, 3:43 pm, "Wilbur Hubbard" wrote: But who needs an attractive woman who will, 99% of the time, hate cruising. Them's the facts, boys. . . Wilbur Hubbard trust me willbur those tall ship women were not dykes with (marlin) spikes. I do agree 99,999% of republican-teabagger women from Ohio snipped totally untenable suggestion which smacks of feminism Good grief, but that's the worst suggestion I ever heard - get a liberal woman to cruise with? My GAWD! You're asking me to exist in purgatory. No liberal woman would last five minutes aboard my sailboat before she would be seen walking the plank being prodded in her fat, worthless, liberal ass with a boat hook. Do you know what a nightmare it would be for a conservative man being subjected to the mung and drool liberal women would constantly dribble out of their uppity mouths? "Save the whales, stop global warming, hug the trees, let's go see a Broadway play, let's all drive electric cars, one square of toilet paper allowed per defecation episode, we demand our abortion rights, save the starving Ethiopian children, equal pay for males and females, gay rights, close Guantanamo Bay, one year paid leave for pregnancy . . ." Gags me - just gags me!!! Any liberal woman who stepped foot aboard my boat would be seen, in very short order, walking the plank prodded in the ass by a sharp boat hook with a sock stuffed in her pie hole and weighed down with about fifty pounds of old rusty anchor chain. Wilbur Hubbard And young nubile boys are just so much more attractive, right? Cheers, Bruce (bruceinbangkokatgmaildotcom) The only woman likely to ever be seen on Wilburneals yellow tub is the blow up kind. |
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Wilbur Hubbard wrote:
Oh, give me a freaking BREAK! One rare exception does not a rule prove. Nothing worse than the pseudo-educated flapping their jaws. The exception proves OUT the rule. Jim - Learned that at hard-knock school. 1st grade. |
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Nothing worse than the pseudo-educated flapping their jaws.
The exception proves OUT the rule. Jim - Learned that at hard-knock school. *1st grade. Help me out here Jim. Im not sure what you mean by .......proves OUT the rule...... Do you mean it .... supports the rule? or does not support the rule? I dont know what you mean by proves out. I assum that its a quirk to your local dialect. Are you from texas or the south? or have parents from that area. Im interested in the origin your word choice. Bob |
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Bob wrote:
Nothing worse than the pseudo-educated flapping their jaws. The exception proves OUT the rule. Jim - Learned that at hard-knock school. 1st grade. Help me out here Jim. Im not sure what you mean by .......proves OUT the rule...... Do you mean it .... supports the rule? or does not support the rule? I dont know what you mean by proves out. I assum that its a quirk to your local dialect. Are you from texas or the south? or have parents from that area. Im interested in the origin your word choice. Bob It's scientific and logical. Means "proves invalid." As in toss it out. Read it somewhere in reference to this old saw. Of course I could have misread or misremembered. That's possible. Or maybe what I read was plain wrong-headed. But I don't want to get all arcane and tangled up here. Wouldn't be right. I bet Neal says things like "I could care less" too. Jim - It's raining cats and dogs here right now. |
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Bruce wrote: How do you have your anchor rigged? Are you using all rope or a chain leader? I assume that you drag out some rode and carry the anchor back and hang it on the stern pulpit and just toss it overboard when you want to stop. But how about retrieving it? Cheers, Bruce Hi Bruce, It's a flood control lake on the Red River along the border between Texas and Oklahoma (98,000 acres). The lake is mostly 50-60 feet deep to the shores. The Oklahoma side slopes down into the lake, and the Texas side is mostly shear cliffs. That's part of the Red River Valley... So it's not easy to find a comfortable place to anchor. Last night, exploring the Little Mineral Creek arm, when I found a section where the bottom came up *SMOOTHLY* to 18 - 20 feet, way out in the middle of the creek (about a mile wide), I ran a search pattern over it half a dozen times to make sure I wasn't trying to anchor on some submerged barn. I have a heavy Bruce type ( :) !) and a Danforth type in the anchor locker with 200 feet of rode and 10 feet of chain already bent on. Old habit. I added a rail bracket and another Danforth on the st'bd side stern rail as a quick drop in case of sudden need. That one has 120 feet of rode and 6 feet of vinyl covered chain. The rode is kept in an anchor line bag (net bag) in the cockpit locker. It can be bent to the anchor, or added forward, as needed. So the anchor is in place (when you want it there), but the rode is stowed. She comes to a stop with the breeze on the stern - very comfortable. Also directly facing the rising moon last night. Very romantic environment. To face the boat INTO the wind, I pull up some slack in the rode, and walk that forward to a bow cleat outside the lifelines. At no time is the rode ever unfastened. As for retrieving, we are probably less than 8000 pounds all up weight. So the above works well to bring the boat head-to. In heavy weather, cleat the rode to the bow before beginning this evolution. Do a conventional into-the-wind approach and drop. It's easier on me when solo. Maybe safer too? The helm is manned and no moving around on deck. I guess my worst fear is close maneuvering in the marina. An anchor there isn't going to help much when the water is a lot deeper than it is wide! -- Richard Lamb |
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On Tue, 01 Jun 2010 15:38:04 -0500, cavelamb
wrote: . Bruce wrote: How do you have your anchor rigged? Are you using all rope or a chain leader? I assume that you drag out some rode and carry the anchor back and hang it on the stern pulpit and just toss it overboard when you want to stop. But how about retrieving it? Cheers, Bruce Hi Bruce, It's a flood control lake on the Red River along the border between Texas and Oklahoma (98,000 acres). The lake is mostly 50-60 feet deep to the shores. The Oklahoma side slopes down into the lake, and the Texas side is mostly shear cliffs. That's part of the Red River Valley... So it's not easy to find a comfortable place to anchor. Last night, exploring the Little Mineral Creek arm, when I found a section where the bottom came up *SMOOTHLY* to 18 - 20 feet, way out in the middle of the creek (about a mile wide), I ran a search pattern over it half a dozen times to make sure I wasn't trying to anchor on some submerged barn. I have a heavy Bruce type ( :) !) and a Danforth type in the anchor locker with 200 feet of rode and 10 feet of chain already bent on. Old habit. I added a rail bracket and another Danforth on the st'bd side stern rail as a quick drop in case of sudden need. That one has 120 feet of rode and 6 feet of vinyl covered chain. The rode is kept in an anchor line bag (net bag) in the cockpit locker. It can be bent to the anchor, or added forward, as needed. So the anchor is in place (when you want it there), but the rode is stowed. She comes to a stop with the breeze on the stern - very comfortable. Also directly facing the rising moon last night. Very romantic environment. To face the boat INTO the wind, I pull up some slack in the rode, and walk that forward to a bow cleat outside the lifelines. At no time is the rode ever unfastened. As for retrieving, we are probably less than 8000 pounds all up weight. So the above works well to bring the boat head-to. In heavy weather, cleat the rode to the bow before beginning this evolution. Do a conventional into-the-wind approach and drop. It's easier on me when solo. Maybe safer too? The helm is manned and no moving around on deck. I guess my worst fear is close maneuvering in the marina. An anchor there isn't going to help much when the water is a lot deeper than it is wide! You only have abut 18 meters of water there. Not that deep although with rope you probably use a 5::1 scope and the short chain isn't doing much to help the anchor. You comments abut not going forward is something I've always felt must be a problem in small boats as they all have a sort of elevated cabin top to gain more room below and that usually makes going forward somewhat difficult,I'd think. And their "rails" are only about knee high which doesn't make one feel too secure if the boat is bouncing around a bit. I have see something that you might find useful, although it is not beautiful :-) Many boats have a sort of reel mounted on the aft pulpit. It is a two part spool, I'd say about 2 feet long that bolts around a horizontal tube somewhere on the aft pulpit and is used to store the stern anchor line. It isn't for retrieving the anchor which is apparently done by hand or a sheet winch but does make an easy place to carry the line. Cheers, Bruce (bruceinbangkokatgmaildotcom) |
Boob's day in paradise
Bruce wrote:
On Tue, 01 Jun 2010 15:38:04 -0500, cavelamb wrote: . Bruce wrote: How do you have your anchor rigged? Are you using all rope or a chain leader? I assume that you drag out some rode and carry the anchor back and hang it on the stern pulpit and just toss it overboard when you want to stop. But how about retrieving it? Cheers, Bruce Hi Bruce, It's a flood control lake on the Red River along the border between Texas and Oklahoma (98,000 acres). The lake is mostly 50-60 feet deep to the shores. The Oklahoma side slopes down into the lake, and the Texas side is mostly shear cliffs. That's part of the Red River Valley... So it's not easy to find a comfortable place to anchor. Last night, exploring the Little Mineral Creek arm, when I found a section where the bottom came up *SMOOTHLY* to 18 - 20 feet, way out in the middle of the creek (about a mile wide), I ran a search pattern over it half a dozen times to make sure I wasn't trying to anchor on some submerged barn. I have a heavy Bruce type ( :) !) and a Danforth type in the anchor locker with 200 feet of rode and 10 feet of chain already bent on. Old habit. I added a rail bracket and another Danforth on the st'bd side stern rail as a quick drop in case of sudden need. That one has 120 feet of rode and 6 feet of vinyl covered chain. The rode is kept in an anchor line bag (net bag) in the cockpit locker. It can be bent to the anchor, or added forward, as needed. So the anchor is in place (when you want it there), but the rode is stowed. She comes to a stop with the breeze on the stern - very comfortable. Also directly facing the rising moon last night. Very romantic environment. To face the boat INTO the wind, I pull up some slack in the rode, and walk that forward to a bow cleat outside the lifelines. At no time is the rode ever unfastened. As for retrieving, we are probably less than 8000 pounds all up weight. So the above works well to bring the boat head-to. In heavy weather, cleat the rode to the bow before beginning this evolution. Do a conventional into-the-wind approach and drop. It's easier on me when solo. Maybe safer too? The helm is manned and no moving around on deck. I guess my worst fear is close maneuvering in the marina. An anchor there isn't going to help much when the water is a lot deeper than it is wide! You only have abut 18 meters of water there. Not that deep although with rope you probably use a 5::1 scope and the short chain isn't doing much to help the anchor. You comments abut not going forward is something I've always felt must be a problem in small boats as they all have a sort of elevated cabin top to gain more room below and that usually makes going forward somewhat difficult,I'd think. And their "rails" are only about knee high which doesn't make one feel too secure if the boat is bouncing around a bit. I have see something that you might find useful, although it is not beautiful :-) Many boats have a sort of reel mounted on the aft pulpit. It is a two part spool, I'd say about 2 feet long that bolts around a horizontal tube somewhere on the aft pulpit and is used to store the stern anchor line. It isn't for retrieving the anchor which is apparently done by hand or a sheet winch but does make an easy place to carry the line. Cheers, Bruce (bruceinbangkokatgmaildotcom) You an buy something like that over here. I've thought about trying an extension cord roller-upper thing. Like you said, just to get them organized and dry. -- Richard Lamb |
Boob's day in paradise
On Tue, 01 Jun 2010 22:57:29 -0500, cavelamb
wrote: I have see something that you might find useful, although it is not beautiful :-) Many boats have a sort of reel mounted on the aft pulpit. It is a two part spool, I'd say about 2 feet long that bolts around a horizontal tube somewhere on the aft pulpit and is used to store the stern anchor line. It isn't for retrieving the anchor which is apparently done by hand or a sheet winch but does make an easy place to carry the line. Cheers, Bruce (bruceinbangkokatgmaildotcom) You an buy something like that over here. I've thought about trying an extension cord roller-upper thing. Like you said, just to get them organized and dry. I think a plastic garden hose reel might work for that purpose, without the hose of course. |
Boob's day in paradise
On Wed, 02 Jun 2010 04:20:15 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote: On Tue, 01 Jun 2010 22:57:29 -0500, cavelamb wrote: I have see something that you might find useful, although it is not beautiful :-) Many boats have a sort of reel mounted on the aft pulpit. It is a two part spool, I'd say about 2 feet long that bolts around a horizontal tube somewhere on the aft pulpit and is used to store the stern anchor line. It isn't for retrieving the anchor which is apparently done by hand or a sheet winch but does make an easy place to carry the line. Cheers, Bruce (bruceinbangkokatgmaildotcom) You an buy something like that over here. I've thought about trying an extension cord roller-upper thing. Like you said, just to get them organized and dry. I think a plastic garden hose reel might work for that purpose, without the hose of course. I think that the small dia., long rollers I have seen perhaps hold more rope. Assuming a 24" long reel with a bare hub of 3" and 1/2 inch rope then four layers on the reel will be some 239 feet. The reels I am referring to obviously weren't intended to hold a storm anchor rode so I think they were just for a "lunch hook" sort of arrangement but for a small boat it would probably hold the main anchor rode, if you wanted it back there :-) Cheers, Bruce (bruceinbangkokatgmaildotcom) |
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