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On May 13, 11:26*am, Larry wrote:
The polar ice caps are melting at -90F? BULL****! Larry My dear confused friend. I recomend that you not look at the world through a straw nor view a huge body of research using a single piece of data to serve as a model. LESSON: Take any set of data in a standard bell curve. I can simply go to the 4 SD (standard devation) and find an eception contrary to the the other accuratly described 99% of the subjects/data. Its simple in any set of data youre going to find "out lyers" on the wiings or tails. Lean basic statistics befor swallowing that swill in the public media. Becoma a critical consumer of media not some fox network zombie. Even our former president Bush II and the Republican party admits to global CLIMATE CHANGE. Granted for years they flatly refused to accept modern information saying there was no such thing as global climate change. Considering they were the clowns who also thought coal is formed in 15,000 years and most likly still belive the world is flat id say that is a remakable flip flop!. Im a conserviative and belive it would be prudent and conserviative to consider our planet at jepordy and actually do something about it instead of mouthing off FOX News slogans who run those stories in an attempt to increase ratings/profits from commercials sales. Get smart Get informed Bob |
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"rockhopper" wrote in news:4bebd75d$0$22938
: Spectacular images from a tall ship sailing to Antarctica: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LlayCY3jhJw No need to go that far. It's snowing in COLORADO tonight! http://www.estesparkweather.net/webcam2.php ......and Kerry and Lieberman want you to pay $10/gallon in carbon tax on your boat gas to prevent global warming! -- Creationism is to science what storks are to obstetrics. Larry |
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Bob wrote in news:bae87436-7a5c-477a-9e75-
: On May 13, 11:26*am, Larry wrote: The polar ice caps are melting at -90F? BULL****! Larry My dear confused friend. I recomend that you not look at the world through a straw nor view a huge body of research using a single piece of data to serve as a model. LESSON: Take any set of data in a standard bell curve. I can simply go to the 4 SD (standard devation) and find an eception contrary to the the other accuratly described 99% of the subjects/data. Its simple in any set of data youre going to find "out lyers" on the wiings or tails. Lean basic statistics befor swallowing that swill in the public media. Becoma a critical consumer of media not some fox network zombie. Even our former president Bush II and the Republican party admits to global CLIMATE CHANGE. Granted for years they flatly refused to accept modern information saying there was no such thing as global climate change. Considering they were the clowns who also thought coal is formed in 15,000 years and most likly still belive the world is flat id say that is a remakable flip flop!. Im a conserviative and belive it would be prudent and conserviative to consider our planet at jepordy and actually do something about it instead of mouthing off FOX News slogans who run those stories in an attempt to increase ratings/profits from commercials sales. Get smart Get informed Bob Oh, wait! There's PLENTY of "climate change"! It's been there for billions of years and no amount of New World Order or new taxes will change it one bit. NO, no....Global Climate Change is a natural occurance...periods of intense glaciation followed by periods just like the last few hundred years....global warming until the next ice age caused by the solar cycles. Noone is denying global climate change. No, that's not the question, even though when confronted they do the same political bull**** you do. You say I deny "climate change", which is simply not true. There, now you have it. Now, let's talk about ANTHROPOMORPHIC climate change: http://www.google.com/search?q=anthr...climate+change Now we have a completely different topic. Are the HUMANS, those tiny *******s loaded down with religious guilt by thousands of years of religious delusion who simply MUST be responsible for everything in the universe....and can change it for the better by SACRIFICING themselves, their economies, their families, their way of life some guilty greenie asshole wants to force upon them, guilty or not. The new question is not about climate at all. It's about CONTROL by a new cult of tree huggers, like Greenpeace (who has DIESEL SHIPS SPEWING OUT VAST QUANTITIES OF CO2 and who fly hoards of demonstrators around the planet in jet planes). Greenie hypocracies who want to put YOUR life back into the age of the horse and buggie....but not themselves, of course. There is not a single shred of honest evidence the tiny bit of CO2 HUMANS have put in the atmosphere, which does NOT accumulate any more than all that 30 weight Quaker State motor oil we poured into your local lake with our 2-stroke outboard motors running 15:1 mixtures for over a hundred years did. Now, let's go here and have a realistic look: http://www.whrc.org/carbon/images/Gl...bonCycleLG.gif The amount of TOTAL CO2 in the air, TOTAL FROM ALL SOURCES, is about 390 parts per million. To put that into perspective for a middle school class a friend of mine teaches, we took 390ppm out of a 10,000 gallon swimming pool in the gym of their school. That amounts to, ALMOST, but not quite 4 gallons. 10,000 x .000390 = 3.9 gallons. So, with the pool completely like glass, pump off, no agitation by 7th grade boys, the students marked the pool wall then took out 3.9 gallons in plastic milk jugs and made another mark how much of the total "atmosphere" was "CO2" in the milk jugs. Of course, that's crazy! The pool never noticed all the "CO2" missing. THEN, of the 3.9 gallons, using the data off this chart for the 6.5PGm of HUMAN CREATED CO2 Gore and the warmers never want to talk about....The HUMAN created "CO2" out of the pool amounts to about 9.4 OUNCES out of a 10,000 gallon swimming pool. If humans shut down COMPLETELY, A TOTAL CO2 BAN, only 6.5PGm of the total CO2 pumped in and out of the atmosphere by the natural cycles (see the chart! OPEN YOUR EYES, DAMMIT!) would make hardly any difference AT ALL. Human CO2 has the same effect on the air banning the damned 65 cent/pound Refridgerant 12 and forcing the $8.98/12oz R-134a did....NO EFFECT AT ALL. The only effect banning either COMPLETELY would do is called ECONOMIC DISASTER for all of us. How stupid...... Your turn.............................................. .. -- Creationism is to science what storks are to obstetrics. Larry |
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On May 13, 2:20*pm, Larry wrote:
Oh, wait! *There's PLENTY of "climate change"! *It's been there for billions of years and no amount of New World Order or new taxes will change it one bit. NO, no....Global Climate Change is a natural occurance... Noone is denying global climate change. Hello Lary: Then why did the Repubican party and Rush Limbaugh et al. deny global warming and Global Climate Change for so long and then do a 180 flip flop during the second administration of Bush II only to agree, yes, our climate is changing dramitcally???????? What cause those repunlicans to change their mind? Or dont you remember all those jokes about tree huggers and Gore being wacky to even consider that our climat was changing? What made Rush change his mind so rapidly and dramatically. Bob Larry |
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On Thu, 13 May 2010 21:51:32 -0700 (PDT), Bob
wrote: On May 13, 2:20*pm, Larry wrote: Oh, wait! *There's PLENTY of "climate change"! *It's been there for billions of years and no amount of New World Order or new taxes will change it one bit. NO, no....Global Climate Change is a natural occurance... Noone is denying global climate change. Hello Lary: Then why did the Repubican party and Rush Limbaugh et al. deny global warming and Global Climate Change for so long and then do a 180 flip flop during the second administration of Bush II only to agree, yes, our climate is changing dramitcally???????? What cause those repunlicans to change their mind? Or dont you remember all those jokes about tree huggers and Gore being wacky to even consider that our climat was changing? What made Rush change his mind so rapidly and dramatically. Bob Larry I think the point is that there have been periods in the earth's history when the climate has been both hotter and colder then it is today. The Thames River in England used to freeze over, the first River Thames frost fair was in 1607; the last in 1814, villages were destroyed by glaciers in Switzerland, ice caps increased in size, the Atlantic Ice pack increased from around 1250, etc. Was this drop in temperature caused by the world population generating less CO2? Or is it considered a normal change in climate? Is the present increase in temperature normal or caused by mankind? Is there any specific evidence to prove the cause? My understand is that there is a body of conflicting evidence which no one can categorically state proves anything. Another point is that most of the environmental furor is extremely hypocritical. If CO2 is a problem they why not a ban on internal combustion engines larger then, say 900 cc. ? I've driven a 900 cc automobile and they will carry you where you want to go, you don't need the SUV. Why not a ban on internal combustion powered shipping entering U.S. ports? We know that sailing ships work. Outlaw more then one automobile in a family? Motorcycles limited to, say 90 cc? No powered lawn mowers or dish washers, after all I doubt if your grandmother had a dishwasher. I could go on but no one is going to listen. No, they would rather ride around in their SUV and weep crocodile tears. The environment is like the weather, every one talks about it but nobody actually does anything about it. Cheers, Bruce (bruceinbangkokatgmaildotcom) |
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On May 13, 9:54*pm, Bruce wrote:
My understand is that there is a body of conflicting evidence which no one can categorically state proves anything. Hello Bruce Good to hear from you. Long time to chat. Yes, there are conflicting studies and studies that simply interpret existing data to produce a new claim. Its is a very compelling stratigie. All I have to do is pay some shister PH D from BP or Chevron to publish some bogus study. Poof ! Now we have conflicting body of literature since that occures we can continue saying: "Even the experts doint agree" says Fox News reporter. Unfortuanly the worlds reputable scientest doall all agree.................. humans impact the worlds climate. Another point is that most of the environmental furor is extremely hypocritical. If CO2 is a problem they why not a ban on internal combustion engines larger then, say 900 cc. ? I've driven a 900 cc automobile and they will carry you where you want to go, you don't need the SUV. Why not a ban on internal combustion powered shipping entering U.S. ports? We know that sailing ships work. Outlaw more then one automobile in a family? Motorcycles limited to, say 90 cc? No powered lawn mowers or dish washers, after all I doubt if your grandmother had a dishwasher. I could go on but no one is going to listen. No, they would rather ride around in their SUV and weep crocodile tears. Cheers, Bruce many people are listening except the teabaggers/republicans/fox network keep screaming so loud its hard to hear a normal voice. Dont they undersand they are simply pupets of big oil and big business.... hey larry hows it feel to be manipulated so easily? keep up the good work Bruce. |
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On 5/14/10 12:51 AM, Bob wrote:
On May 13, 2:20 pm, wrote: Oh, wait! There's PLENTY of "climate change"! It's been there for billions of years and no amount of New World Order or new taxes will change it one bit. NO, no....Global Climate Change is a natural occurance... Noone is denying global climate change. Hello Lary: Then why did the Repubican party and Rush Limbaugh et al. deny global warming and Global Climate Change for so long and then do a 180 flip flop during the second administration of Bush II only to agree, yes, our climate is changing dramitcally???????? What cause those repunlicans to change their mind? Or dont you remember all those jokes about tree huggers and Gore being wacky to even consider that our climat was changing? What made Rush change his mind so rapidly and dramatically. Bob Larry No rational adults give a rat's ass what limbaugh says about anything. -- The Tea Party's teabaggers are just the Republican base by another name. |
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On Thu, 13 May 2010 23:32:51 -0700 (PDT), Bob
wrote: On May 13, 9:54*pm, Bruce wrote: My understand is that there is a body of conflicting evidence which no one can categorically state proves anything. Hello Bruce Good to hear from you. Long time to chat. Yes, there are conflicting studies and studies that simply interpret existing data to produce a new claim. Its is a very compelling stratigie. All I have to do is pay some shister PH D from BP or Chevron to publish some bogus study. Poof ! Now we have conflicting body of literature since that occures we can continue saying: "Even the experts doint agree" says Fox News reporter. Unfortuanly the worlds reputable scientest doall all agree.................. humans impact the worlds climate. O.K. we'll assume that you are correct. what is being done about it? I don't keep up with U.S. politics to any extent but I certainly haven't seen anything being legislated that is going to have an effect on CO2 emissions. Oh yes, we can horse around with a carbon tax but will that do anything worthwhile? Certainly not as much as outlawing internal combustion engines, or severely limiting their size. Sailing ships only into U.S. ports! And while they are messing about with carbon taxes the Chinese smokestacks are still belching smoke. How about a law that nothing more is to be imported from China unless they immediately cut carbon emissions. But I very much doubt that anyone is going to mess with the 500 lb. Chinese gorilla. Another point is that most of the environmental furor is extremely hypocritical. If CO2 is a problem they why not a ban on internal combustion engines larger then, say 900 cc. ? I've driven a 900 cc automobile and they will carry you where you want to go, you don't need the SUV. Why not a ban on internal combustion powered shipping entering U.S. ports? We know that sailing ships work. Outlaw more then one automobile in a family? Motorcycles limited to, say 90 cc? No powered lawn mowers or dish washers, after all I doubt if your grandmother had a dishwasher. I could go on but no one is going to listen. No, they would rather ride around in their SUV and weep crocodile tears. Cheers, Bruce many people are listening except the teabaggers/republicans/fox network keep screaming so loud its hard to hear a normal voice. Dont they undersand they are simply pupets of big oil and big business.... hey larry hows it feel to be manipulated so easily? keep up the good work Bruce. I'm not sure what you mean about puppets of big oil and big business as frankly I don't find it true. I hear people advocating all kinds of conspiracy theories but I never see any evidence that it is true. The "Weapons of mass destruction" is a perfect example. Advanced by the President of the U.S. and the P.M. of G.B. and possibly others and certainly repeated by a very large percent of the US population. Cheers, Bruce (bruceinbangkokatgmaildotcom) |
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Bruce wrote in
: I could go on but no one is going to listen. No, they would rather ride around in their SUV and weep crocodile tears. Step one would be to forbid aircraft from taking off. Everyone on the planet can live without airplanes, jet engines spewing out billions of tons per year of CO2 from their kerosene burners. That ALONE will stop this nonsense in its tracks. IMPORTANT people, the elite among us, are the ones in the airplanes. They would never give it up....jetsetters. So, their solution is to turn it into a TAX. TAX controls the masses and the super rich simply pay up as it amounts to such a tiny part of their massive wealth. CARBON TAX and $10/gallon gas has no effect on billionaires at all....a pittance in their world....that brings MY world to its knees! TAX can fix any environmental problem! -- Creationism is to science what storks are to obstetrics. Larry |
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Bob wrote in news:3d361467-a62a-4f7a-8c00-370b357086c3
@31g2000prc.googlegroups.com: Unfortuanly the worlds reputable scientest doall all agree.................. humans impact the worlds climate. That statement is just plain FALSE! The scientists do NOT agree. They cannot agree. You warmists LOVE to try to make oil company funding into the pollution of the science. That's simply untrue, too! You've been drinking too much Greenpeace Koolaid! -- Creationism is to science what storks are to obstetrics. Larry |
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On Fri, 14 May 2010 19:49:52 +0000, Larry wrote:
CARBON TAX and $10/gallon gas has no effect on billionaires at all....a pittance in their world....that brings MY world to its knees! I thought you were running super cheap bio diesel ? $10 gas would actually be good for the country over the long term. It would accelerate research efforts for energy independance and help to reduce the balance of payments defecit. A lot of gasoline gets burned unnecessarily just because it is still relatively cheap. |
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Wayne.B wrote in
: I thought you were running super cheap bio diesel ? No, my diesel cars run on a 50:1 mixture of used veggie oil, mostly canola, and mineral spirits (paint thinner), nearly for free. The stepvan has a frybrid in it....starts on diesel and switches to hot filtered veggie oil after about 2 miles then runs for free! My fuel consumption is in the Honda Reflex scooter...about $6/week. -- Creationism is to science what storks are to obstetrics. Larry |
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Rush is an entertainer. *Why not refer to an authority like Sean Penn?- Hide quoted text - Because Penn does not pretend to be a knowledagble political source. True. By RL's own abmissoin on several occasons. Rush says," I am an intertainer." Interesting that a AM radio mouth from california pretends to be such a knowledagable guru but when callled on his credentials couwers behind, Im just an intertainer. bob |
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, Bob wrote: Rush is an entertainer. *Why not refer to an authority like Sean Penn?- Hide quoted text - Because Penn does not pretend to be a knowledagble political source. True. By RL's own abmissoin on several occasons. Rush says," I am an intertainer." Interesting that a AM radio mouth from california pretends to be such a knowledagable guru but when callled on his credentials couwers behind, Im just an intertainer. bob At Least you could use a spell checker... you write like a Bumpkin.... |
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On May 15, 10:25*am, You wrote:
At Least you could use a spell checker... you write like a Bumpkin.... I just dont care about spelling and if you look closely yo ll also see my letters get scrambeld at times. On to the real topic: Im hanging out with some 22 yo college students which is fun. two of the friends are geology students. I was asking about religous people and geo. Interestin........... theyboth said seeral national churches sponse students (scholarships) to attend state schools. Their mission is to get state school degrees and at the same time learn mainstream science to find "holes" in the secular science that can be attributed to GOD. In other words if there is an area in the body of literature that lacks reasearch the religious students use that as a sign that only GOD could explain the mystry. Its not really a mystry just a point that has not been studind throughly yet. Now, with the religous guys holding BS-MS-PH D from asate university they sart publishing thier own GOD based researh......... and guess what are their results: Global Climate Change is normal and since God is responsible for hte "normal" change we can **** in our own nest polute and devastate every living thing because God is on or side and all the disctrution is a normal natural process.... or so says the "lates research accrding to Fox Network that reports the latest findins for a scientest who holds a PH D.from Eastern Idaho University. THese are not my ideas. This was expaind to me by two geology majors at a state univesity. O. by the way graduation is today !! Bob |
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I was reading about the recent, Arizona was it? law that a cop can stop anyone and demand evidence of citizenship. My goodness! Civil rights will be endangered! Absolute B.S. Illegal Immigrants (criminals) have civil rights? Wrong. The Arizona cops can only check for evidence of citizenship on a legal stop for something else. Speeding? Are you a citizen? Rob a bank? Got papers? etc Gordon |
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Larry wrote:
Bob wrote in news:3d361467-a62a-4f7a-8c00-370b357086c3 @31g2000prc.googlegroups.com: Unfortuanly the worlds reputable scientest doall all agree.................. humans impact the worlds climate. That statement is just plain FALSE! The scientists do NOT agree. They cannot agree. Actually, most do agree that people affect the atmosphere.........to a degree, however miniscule. Gordon |
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On Sat, 15 May 2010 16:06:53 -0700, Gordon wrote:
Wrong. The Arizona cops can only check for evidence of citizenship on a legal stop for something else. Speeding? Are you a citizen? Rob a bank? Got papers? etc Any cop that has been on the job for a while can always find probable cause for a stop, even if only for the old "tail light not working" trick, which suddenly and mysteriously starts working again on the side of the road. I've seen it happen. |
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On 5/15/10 7:06 PM, Gordon wrote:
I was reading about the recent, Arizona was it? law that a cop can stop anyone and demand evidence of citizenship. My goodness! Civil rights will be endangered! Absolute B.S. Illegal Immigrants (criminals) have civil rights? Wrong. The Arizona cops can only check for evidence of citizenship on a legal stop for something else. Speeding? Are you a citizen? Rob a bank? Got papers? etc Gordon Gordon thinks cops follow the rules... :) -- The Tea Party's teabaggers are just the Republican base by another name. |
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On Sat, 15 May 2010 16:06:53 -0700, Gordon wrote:
I was reading about the recent, Arizona was it? law that a cop can stop anyone and demand evidence of citizenship. My goodness! Civil rights will be endangered! Absolute B.S. Illegal Immigrants (criminals) have civil rights? Wrong. The Arizona cops can only check for evidence of citizenship on a legal stop for something else. Speeding? Are you a citizen? Rob a bank? Got papers? etc Gordon I am not arguing, but as reported internationally the police were given the right to check anyone that they wanted to. Sort of shows the quality of the news agencies, doesn't it. Cheers, Bruce (bruceinbangkokatgmaildotcom) |
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hk wrote:
On 5/15/10 7:06 PM, Gordon wrote: I was reading about the recent, Arizona was it? law that a cop can stop anyone and demand evidence of citizenship. My goodness! Civil rights will be endangered! Absolute B.S. Illegal Immigrants (criminals) have civil rights? Wrong. The Arizona cops can only check for evidence of citizenship on a legal stop for something else. Speeding? Are you a citizen? Rob a bank? Got papers? etc Gordon Gordon thinks cops follow the rules... :) Of course there are bad cops. There are bad sailors also as witnessed on this NG from time to time. Gordon |
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On 5/15/10 10:00 PM, Gordon wrote:
hk wrote: On 5/15/10 7:06 PM, Gordon wrote: I was reading about the recent, Arizona was it? law that a cop can stop anyone and demand evidence of citizenship. My goodness! Civil rights will be endangered! Absolute B.S. Illegal Immigrants (criminals) have civil rights? Wrong. The Arizona cops can only check for evidence of citizenship on a legal stop for something else. Speeding? Are you a citizen? Rob a bank? Got papers? etc Gordon Gordon thinks cops follow the rules... :) Of course there are bad cops. There are bad sailors also as witnessed on this NG from time to time. Gordon You've got at least one nutcase sheriff "out there" who is notorious for being out of control. -- The Tea Party's teabaggers are just the Republican base by another name. |
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On Sat, 15 May 2010 19:00:43 -0700, Gordon wrote:
hk wrote: On 5/15/10 7:06 PM, Gordon wrote: I was reading about the recent, Arizona was it? law that a cop can stop anyone and demand evidence of citizenship. My goodness! Civil rights will be endangered! Absolute B.S. Illegal Immigrants (criminals) have civil rights? Wrong. The Arizona cops can only check for evidence of citizenship on a legal stop for something else. Speeding? Are you a citizen? Rob a bank? Got papers? etc Gordon Gordon thinks cops follow the rules... :) Of course there are bad cops. There are bad sailors also as witnessed on this NG from time to time. Gordon Bad Sailors on this news group? My God, man! You destroy my faith in human nature. Cheers, Bruce (bruceinbangkokatgmaildotcom) |
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WaIIy wrote in
: On Sat, 15 May 2010 04:07:10 +0000, Larry wrote: My fuel consumption is in the Honda Reflex scooter...about $6/week. Hey bud, I have a Helix. Mine's a 2004. Bought it from the local Vespa dealer someone turned in with 1900 miles on it for a 125 Vespa. He wanted a less powerful scooter. I think your 250 motor must be about the same motor. Reflex just snazzed up the plastic. The Chinese make the same scooter without the Honda profit load on it for lots less. We compared the two. Mine has a parking brake. Theirs has an FM stereo radio built into the panel over where my parking brake lever is mounted and those little "air conditioner" holes we never figured out the use for is where the stereo speakers are mounted! http://www.powersportsmax.com/produc...roducts_id/634 Hmm...price dropped again! $1649 brand new. Honda wanted $4700 for it. It's the SAME scooter..... The Honda drive belt is $82 at local Honda dealers. Our chinese scooter shop sold me the EXACT same belt, right down to the brand name for $18! Guess whos parts I buy....(c;] I live in Charleston, SC. Been as far away as Columbia and Myrtle Beach on mine. Went to Myrtle Beach with two friends driving noisy custom Harley's. They took me along as a joke, expecting to leave me along side the highway. I was bound to stay with them and they finally gave up around 75 before we got ticketed....hee hee. "How fast will it go?", everyone always asks. "I don't know! The cops don't want me to find out.", is my answer....(c;] BTW, State Farm, my car insurance company sells me $100K/$300K/$50K liability insurance for it for $23/year. Uninsured motorist coverage is another $32/year, here. THat makes it cheap to keep, too! -- Creationism is to science what storks are to obstetrics. Larry |
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Bruce wrote in
: The sensible thing, if the problem is internal combustion engines is the problem, to limit them in size. Say 90 cc for a 2 wheeler and ,say 1 Ltr. for a 4 wheel. Heavy trucks? somewhere around 1.5 Ltrs., which would yield around 100 HP. But that wouldn't be politically correct and a poison pill for any politician who proposed it. http://wattsupwiththat.com/2010/05/1...lobal-warming/ The skeptics have a little monkeywrench for them this week. Here you'll find a graph of temperature on a sensor probe the Apollo 15 astronauts left running on the moon, out of range of the human blame game. Notice the "global warming" on the moon your SUV can't be blamed for.....well, maybe not. Mars has similar global warming problems unrelated to humans to explain away. GW is caused by the SUN....well, duhhh...(c;] -- Creationism is to science what storks are to obstetrics. Larry |
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Gordon wrote in
m: miniscule Excellent word, "miniscule". Human CO2 generation equates to 9.6 ounces of a 10,000 gallon swimming pool. "Miniscule", indeed! -- Creationism is to science what storks are to obstetrics. Larry |
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