Thanks for the funny link :{))

However, trying to find them isn't simple. This, from an Ericson forum,
might be useful:

I used Ameron ABC #3 ablative paint on Kismet 2 years ago here in Florida. I
put 3 coats on and it is pretty thin now. We'll lightly sand and recoat with
the same stuff this fall before we launch for our annual trek south.

We grow barnacles like crazy here in our warm water but the most we ever got
with the Ameron was some slime that wiped off easily. I probably only wiped
the bottom down thoroughly half a dozen times in 2 years.

We used to use Trinidad 75 SR before but it's a hard epoxy type and just
builds up over time. Ablative types are better in that regard.

The drawback to the Ameron is that it comes only in 5 gallon pails and you
can only get through a distributor. It's intended for application on
commercial shipping. We bought ours from an outfit in Jacksonville. It was
about $85 a gallon back then. No thinning required, apply straight from the
can by roller. Comes out nice and smooth.

Here's the link to the thread:
http://www.ericsonyachts.org/infoexc...ead.php?t=5176

The comments about different waters are correct, but this user certainly
seems to have had good luck in the type of water which is driving us crazy.
I could use 5 gallons on Flying Pig, easily, so that's not a big deal, and
we're facing a bottom job some time in the next couple of years (got three
out of our face coat, the warning coat is starting to show in places, same
number of coats as the face coat...

L8R

Skip, aground (can you believe it? Came in to rewater - see my recent
post - and the extra weight - probably put us another 4" deeper - was enough
to keep us here for a short while during the tide change) :{))

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SV Flying Pig KI4MPC
See our galleries at www.justpickone.org/skip/gallery !
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make it come true. You may have to work for it however."
(and)
"There is no such thing as a problem without a gift for you in
its hand
(Richard Bach)

On Thursday, April 29, 2010 4:19:53 PM UTC-4, Flying Pig wrote:
Thanks for the funny link :{))

However, trying to find them isn't simple. This, from an Ericson forum,
might be useful:

I used Ameron ABC #3 ablative paint on Kismet 2 years ago here in Florida.. I
put 3 coats on and it is pretty thin now. We'll lightly sand and recoat with
the same stuff this fall before we launch for our annual trek south.

We grow barnacles like crazy here in our warm water but the most we ever got
with the Ameron was some slime that wiped off easily. I probably only wiped
the bottom down thoroughly half a dozen times in 2 years.

We used to use Trinidad 75 SR before but it's a hard epoxy type and just
builds up over time. Ablative types are better in that regard.

The drawback to the Ameron is that it comes only in 5 gallon pails and you
can only get through a distributor. It's intended for application on
commercial shipping. We bought ours from an outfit in Jacksonville. It was
about $85 a gallon back then. No thinning required, apply straight from the
can by roller. Comes out nice and smooth.

Here's the link to the thread:
http://www.ericsonyachts.org/infoexc...ead.php?t=5176

The comments about different waters are correct, but this user certainly
seems to have had good luck in the type of water which is driving us crazy.
I could use 5 gallons on Flying Pig, easily, so that's not a big deal, and
we're facing a bottom job some time in the next couple of years (got three
out of our face coat, the warning coat is starting to show in places, same
number of coats as the face coat...

L8R

Skip, aground (can you believe it? Came in to rewater - see my recent
post - and the extra weight - probably put us another 4" deeper - was enough
to keep us here for a short while during the tide change) :{))

--
Morgan 461 #2
SV Flying Pig KI4MPC
See our galleries at www.justpickone.org/skip/gallery !
Follow us at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/TheFlyingPigLog
and/or http://groups.google.com/group/flyingpiglog

"You are never given a wish without also being given the power to
make it come true. You may have to work for it however."
(and)
"There is no such thing as a problem without a gift for you in
its hand
(Richard Bach)

ABC3 paint is now available in gallon cans @ $150 from C G Edwards in Boston. Discovered in Panama under the Chemex (made in Mexico) label in 2008. I understand that PPG now owns Ameron, but distribution is not for the recreational market. Practical Sailor is thinking of adding it to their bottom paint tests. Fairwinds,Denis S/V Glide

On Tue, 8 Apr 2014 07:28:59 -0700 (PDT), wrote:

On Thursday, April 29, 2010 4:19:53 PM UTC-4, Flying Pig wrote:
Thanks for the funny link :{))

However, trying to find them isn't simple. This, from an Ericson forum,
might be useful:

I used Ameron ABC #3 ablative paint on Kismet 2 years ago here in Florida. I
put 3 coats on and it is pretty thin now. We'll lightly sand and recoat with
the same stuff this fall before we launch for our annual trek south.

We grow barnacles like crazy here in our warm water but the most we ever got
with the Ameron was some slime that wiped off easily. I probably only wiped
the bottom down thoroughly half a dozen times in 2 years.

We used to use Trinidad 75 SR before but it's a hard epoxy type and just
builds up over time. Ablative types are better in that regard.

The drawback to the Ameron is that it comes only in 5 gallon pails and you
can only get through a distributor. It's intended for application on
commercial shipping. We bought ours from an outfit in Jacksonville. It was
about $85 a gallon back then. No thinning required, apply straight from the
can by roller. Comes out nice and smooth.

Here's the link to the thread:
http://www.ericsonyachts.org/infoexc...ead.php?t=5176

The comments about different waters are correct, but this user certainly
seems to have had good luck in the type of water which is driving us crazy.
I could use 5 gallons on Flying Pig, easily, so that's not a big deal, and
we're facing a bottom job some time in the next couple of years (got three
out of our face coat, the warning coat is starting to show in places, same
number of coats as the face coat...

L8R

Skip, aground (can you believe it? Came in to rewater - see my recent
post - and the extra weight - probably put us another 4" deeper - was enough
to keep us here for a short while during the tide change) :{))

--
Morgan 461 #2
SV Flying Pig KI4MPC
See our galleries at www.justpickone.org/skip/gallery !
Follow us at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/TheFlyingPigLog
and/or http://groups.google.com/group/flyingpiglog

"You are never given a wish without also being given the power to
make it come true. You may have to work for it however."
(and)
"There is no such thing as a problem without a gift for you in
its hand
(Richard Bach)

ABC3 paint is now available in gallon cans @ $150 from C G Edwards in Boston. Discovered in Panama under the Chemex (made in Mexico) label in 2008. I understand that PPG now owns Ameron, but distribution is not for the recreational market. Practical Sailor is thinking of adding it to their bottom paint tests. Fairwinds,Denis S/V Glide

Years ago there was an article in "Practical Boat Owner", a British
magazine, about bottom paints. They painted test panels with a number
of bottom paints and submerged them at harbours all over England. A
few months later that published a follow-up article detailing what
happened. A different paint appeared to give best service in different
harbours with no particular trend. Their final opinion was that the
"best paint" varied from place to place.

I had never used "Yacht" paint and had used Jotun paint here in Asia.
For a long time I used a Jotun paint designed for barges - slow moving
and long times moored - and got an honest 3 years from it. Now, of
course, you can't use tin based paints and the last time I painted the
boat, before I sold it, I just used a "middle priced" Jotun paint and
that apparently lasted at least two years.

But commercial shipping like the Maersk line seem to be turning to a
silicone-based paint that contains no biocides but depends on a
slippery surface to reduce growth. It also decreases drag to provide a
fuel saving of some 1200 tonnes of diesel a year on the Emma Maersk,
based on 290 steaming days a year.

Unfortunately this scheme doesn't work well on sailing yachts :-(
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Cheers,

Bruce in Bangkok