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Anyone care to recommend a website listing most boats for sale. I've got Yachtworld and YBW (same thing??) going but are there any others? I look at some individual brokers' sites occasionally but it seems that whatever they have rolls up into Yachtworld anyway. Are there any that allow you to key in -bavaria -beneteau -hunter etc so you can eliminate a lot of what you don't want to see? Not critical, just curious thanks Hoges in WA |
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On Fri, 09 Apr 2010 07:56:26 GMT, "Hoges in WA"
wrote: Hi Anyone care to recommend a website listing most boats for sale. I've got Yachtworld and YBW (same thing??) going but are there any others? I look at some individual brokers' sites occasionally but it seems that whatever they have rolls up into Yachtworld anyway. Are there any that allow you to key in -bavaria -beneteau -hunter etc so you can eliminate a lot of what you don't want to see? Yachtworld advanced search has many filtering options. http://www.boattrader.com/ allows searching by state Craigslist is regional by design. |
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Google advanced search allows you to do nation wide search on Craigslist
G Craigslist is regional by design. |
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"Wayne.B" wrote in message ... On Fri, 09 Apr 2010 07:56:26 GMT, "Hoges in WA" wrote: Hi Anyone care to recommend a website listing most boats for sale. I've got Yachtworld and YBW (same thing??) going but are there any others? I look at some individual brokers' sites occasionally but it seems that whatever they have rolls up into Yachtworld anyway. Are there any that allow you to key in -bavaria -beneteau -hunter etc so you can eliminate a lot of what you don't want to see? Yachtworld advanced search has many filtering options. http://www.boattrader.com/ allows searching by state Craigslist is regional by design. I use the filtering on Yachtworld but I wish it had a minus or NOT function so I could see what was in my range without having to already know the keyword/s I'll go check boattrader now. Thanks. hoges in wa |
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Is that a stand alone reader for Craig's List?
I use CraigsList Reader Pro from CraigsPal. Sure beats the heck out of manually checking/switching different locations with a Web Browser. And it's free. he http://craigspal.com/ Rick Gordon wrote: Google advanced search allows you to do nation wide search on Craigslist G Wayne B wrote: Craigslist is regional by design. |
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"Hoges in WA" wrote in message
... Hi Anyone care to recommend a website listing most boats for sale. I've got Yachtworld and YBW (same thing??) going but are there any others? I look at some individual brokers' sites occasionally but it seems that whatever they have rolls up into Yachtworld anyway. Are there any that allow you to key in -bavaria -beneteau -hunter etc so you can eliminate a lot of what you don't want to see? Not critical, just curious thanks Hoges in WA I found my Sabre on the Latitude 38 website (latitude38.com). It's mostly regional, but they do list "south of the border" and a few other areas once in a while. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com |
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On 4/9/2010 2:56 AM, Hoges in WA wrote:
Hi Anyone care to recommend a website listing most boats for sale. I've got Yachtworld and YBW (same thing??) going but are there any others? I look at some individual brokers' sites occasionally but it seems that whatever they have rolls up into Yachtworld anyway. Are there any that allow you to key in -bavaria -beneteau -hunter etc so you can eliminate a lot of what you don't want to see? Not critical, just curious thanks Hoges in WA www.sailingtexas.com Covers most of the US, and the near islands. -- Richard Lamb http://www.home.earthlink.net/~cavelamb/ |
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On 4/9/2010 2:56 AM, Hoges in WA wrote:
Hi Anyone care to recommend a website listing most boats for sale. I've got Yachtworld and YBW (same thing??) going but are there any others? I look at some individual brokers' sites occasionally but it seems that whatever they have rolls up into Yachtworld anyway. Are there any that allow you to key in -bavaria -beneteau -hunter etc so you can eliminate a lot of what you don't want to see? Not critical, just curious thanks Hoges in WA I should have added - on SailingTexas.com - do the Windows search (ctrl-F) for a keyword. Skips to mi lou... -- Richard Lamb http://www.home.earthlink.net/~cavelamb/ |
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"cavelamb" ""cavelamb\"@ X earthlink.net" wrote in message m... On 4/9/2010 2:56 AM, Hoges in WA wrote: Hi Anyone care to recommend a website listing most boats for sale. I've got Yachtworld and YBW (same thing??) going but are there any others? I look at some individual brokers' sites occasionally but it seems that whatever they have rolls up into Yachtworld anyway. Are there any that allow you to key in -bavaria -beneteau -hunter etc so you can eliminate a lot of what you don't want to see? Not critical, just curious thanks Hoges in WA www.sailingtexas.com Covers most of the US, and the near islands. -- Richard Lamb http://www.home.earthlink.net/~cavelamb/ Sailingtexas is about the most popular I've seen. The free sites like this have driven boattrader almost out of business here in FL. There used to be 4-5 seperate books for the state but now we're down to 1 and it's pretty thin. I avoid brokers like the plague so I just use Yachtworld for the pretty pictures. |
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"mmc" wrote in message g.com... "cavelamb" ""cavelamb\"@ X earthlink.net" wrote in message m... On 4/9/2010 2:56 AM, Hoges in WA wrote: Hi Anyone care to recommend a website listing most boats for sale. I've got Yachtworld and YBW (same thing??) going but are there any others? I look at some individual brokers' sites occasionally but it seems that whatever they have rolls up into Yachtworld anyway. Are there any that allow you to key in -bavaria -beneteau -hunter etc so you can eliminate a lot of what you don't want to see? Not critical, just curious thanks Hoges in WA www.sailingtexas.com Covers most of the US, and the near islands. -- Richard Lamb http://www.home.earthlink.net/~cavelamb/ Sailingtexas is about the most popular I've seen. The free sites like this have driven boattrader almost out of business here in FL. There used to be 4-5 seperate books for the state but now we're down to 1 and it's pretty thin. I avoid brokers like the plague so I just use Yachtworld for the pretty pictures. Why so anti-broker? I thought they were supposed to act ethically etc etc. hoges in WA |
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On Sun, 11 Apr 2010 02:19:36 GMT, "Hoges in WA"
wrote: I avoid brokers like the plague so I just use Yachtworld for the pretty pictures. Why so anti-broker? I thought they were supposed to act ethically etc etc. hoges in WA Expecting a broker to act in your best interests is mostly wishful thinking. Just like a real estate broker, they are paid to represent the seller and maximize the sale price. The other thing to remember is that they don't get paid unless the deal closes. Having one broker in on the deal does help to facilitate the negotiation process however. I once did a deal with two brokers involved and will try to never do it again. |
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"Wayne.B" wrote in message ... On Sun, 11 Apr 2010 02:19:36 GMT, "Hoges in WA" wrote: I avoid brokers like the plague so I just use Yachtworld for the pretty pictures. Why so anti-broker? I thought they were supposed to act ethically etc etc. hoges in WA Expecting a broker to act in your best interests is mostly wishful thinking. Just like a real estate broker, they are paid to represent the seller and maximize the sale price. The other thing to remember is that they don't get paid unless the deal closes. Having one broker in on the deal does help to facilitate the negotiation process however. I once did a deal with two brokers involved and will try to never do it again. === Yes, I didn't expect them to be on my side (same in Oz, with all sorts of agents including real estate agents). However, they do not get a quid if I don't buy as you note. I would just expect that the legals would all be above board etc so that there was no comeback on them if it was a fiddle. I will certainly be using a surveyor to examine on my behalf. Should I get a lawyer as well to handle the conveyancing or is this complicating things? Hoges in WA |
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On Sun, 11 Apr 2010 04:40:33 GMT, "Hoges in WA"
wrote: I will certainly be using a surveyor to examine on my behalf. Should I get a lawyer as well to handle the conveyancing or is this complicating things? The vast majority of boat deals close without a lawyer but it never hurts to review the purchase contract with an attorney and get it rewritten to your satisfaction. The key to any good purchase contract is to have an acceptance period after the survey, usually 1 week, where you can accept, reject, or renegotiate the price with no obligation other than survey expenses. It is sometimes necessary to reject the boat (in writing) before the seller will renegotiate price. |
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On Sun, 11 Apr 2010 04:40:33 GMT, "Hoges in WA" wrote:
Should I get a lawyer as well to handle the conveyancing or is this complicating things? I've never used a lawyer to buy or sell a boat. However, I used a "Specialist" (non-lawyer) once, to deal with the paperwork, when I was selling a "Documented Vessel". He was worth every penny I paid him. Rick |
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"Hoges in WA" wrote in message
... "mmc" wrote in message g.com... "cavelamb" ""cavelamb\"@ X earthlink.net" wrote in message m... On 4/9/2010 2:56 AM, Hoges in WA wrote: Hi Anyone care to recommend a website listing most boats for sale. I've got Yachtworld and YBW (same thing??) going but are there any others? I look at some individual brokers' sites occasionally but it seems that whatever they have rolls up into Yachtworld anyway. Are there any that allow you to key in -bavaria -beneteau -hunter etc so you can eliminate a lot of what you don't want to see? Not critical, just curious thanks Hoges in WA www.sailingtexas.com Covers most of the US, and the near islands. -- Richard Lamb http://www.home.earthlink.net/~cavelamb/ Sailingtexas is about the most popular I've seen. The free sites like this have driven boattrader almost out of business here in FL. There used to be 4-5 seperate books for the state but now we're down to 1 and it's pretty thin. I avoid brokers like the plague so I just use Yachtworld for the pretty pictures. Why so anti-broker? I thought they were supposed to act ethically etc etc. hoges in WA I've found them to be more interested in getting the sale (from my buying perspective) rather than actually listening to the requirements of what I wanted. I tried several in the area, and they were all pretty much the same. For example, I told one I wanted wheel steering and diesel. He showed me a tiller/diesel and a wheel/A4. In both cases, his comment was, "well, you can retrofit." Another example, I told a broker I didn't want to spend more than $30-$40K, and he immediately wanted to show me boats in the $60K range... oh, but I could make a lower offer. Uh huh. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com |
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"Hoges in WA" wrote in message ... "mmc" wrote in message g.com... "cavelamb" ""cavelamb\"@ X earthlink.net" wrote in message m... On 4/9/2010 2:56 AM, Hoges in WA wrote: Hi Anyone care to recommend a website listing most boats for sale. I've got Yachtworld and YBW (same thing??) going but are there any others? I look at some individual brokers' sites occasionally but it seems that whatever they have rolls up into Yachtworld anyway. Are there any that allow you to key in -bavaria -beneteau -hunter etc so you can eliminate a lot of what you don't want to see? Not critical, just curious thanks Hoges in WA www.sailingtexas.com Covers most of the US, and the near islands. -- Richard Lamb http://www.home.earthlink.net/~cavelamb/ Sailingtexas is about the most popular I've seen. The free sites like this have driven boattrader almost out of business here in FL. There used to be 4-5 seperate books for the state but now we're down to 1 and it's pretty thin. I avoid brokers like the plague so I just use Yachtworld for the pretty pictures. Why so anti-broker? I thought they were supposed to act ethically etc etc. hoges in WA I won't cast aspersions on their characters but I will say that I'd rather skip paying a brokers commision and I can find a surveyor wherever the boat happens to be. I'd rather tour a boat with the owner than someone else (like me) that knows nothing about it. With the cheapy TomTom in my truck, finding a boat in an unfamiliar town isn't much of a challenge anymore either. As for the documentation, it was recommended to me by a friend to hire a specialist" (whatever these people are called) to do mine for a mere $400. I downloaded and printed the form and did it myself. Saved my $400 and IIRC it took all of about 15 minutes to prepare. I sent the forms and check to the CG and they sent back the documentation so I must not have made too many mistakes! |
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"mmc" wrote in message
g.com... "Hoges in WA" wrote in message ... "mmc" wrote in message g.com... "cavelamb" ""cavelamb\"@ X earthlink.net" wrote in message m... On 4/9/2010 2:56 AM, Hoges in WA wrote: Hi Anyone care to recommend a website listing most boats for sale. I've got Yachtworld and YBW (same thing??) going but are there any others? I look at some individual brokers' sites occasionally but it seems that whatever they have rolls up into Yachtworld anyway. Are there any that allow you to key in -bavaria -beneteau -hunter etc so you can eliminate a lot of what you don't want to see? Not critical, just curious thanks Hoges in WA www.sailingtexas.com Covers most of the US, and the near islands. -- Richard Lamb http://www.home.earthlink.net/~cavelamb/ Sailingtexas is about the most popular I've seen. The free sites like this have driven boattrader almost out of business here in FL. There used to be 4-5 seperate books for the state but now we're down to 1 and it's pretty thin. I avoid brokers like the plague so I just use Yachtworld for the pretty pictures. Why so anti-broker? I thought they were supposed to act ethically etc etc. hoges in WA I won't cast aspersions on their characters but I will say that I'd rather skip paying a brokers commision and I can find a surveyor wherever the boat happens to be. I'd rather tour a boat with the owner than someone else (like me) that knows nothing about it. With the cheapy TomTom in my truck, finding a boat in an unfamiliar town isn't much of a challenge anymore either. As for the documentation, it was recommended to me by a friend to hire a specialist" (whatever these people are called) to do mine for a mere $400. I downloaded and printed the form and did it myself. Saved my $400 and IIRC it took all of about 15 minutes to prepare. I sent the forms and check to the CG and they sent back the documentation so I must not have made too many mistakes! Mine was previously documented when I bought it. The previous owner's wife had died, but the only additional complication was getting a copy of the death certificate, since she was on the title. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com |
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On Sun, 11 Apr 2010 17:50:41 -0400, "mmc" wrote:
I won't cast aspersions on their characters but I will say that I'd rather skip paying a brokers commision and I can find a surveyor wherever the boat happens to be. I'd rather tour a boat with the owner than someone else (like me) that knows nothing about it. With the cheapy TomTom in my truck, finding a boat in an unfamiliar town isn't much of a challenge anymore either. As for the documentation, it was recommended to me by a friend to hire a specialist" (whatever these people are called) to do mine for a mere $400. I downloaded and printed the form and did it myself. Saved my $400 and IIRC it took all of about 15 minutes to prepare. I sent the forms and check to the CG and they sent back the documentation so I must not have made too many mistakes! I don't remember what you call them either. My guy was a retired Coast Guard fellow that handled the CG end of the paper work for 30 years or so. He used to make a pretty good retirement income here doing nothing but Documented Vessel transfers. But it wasn't very expensive. I'm thinkin' $50 or maybe $75. Maybe they've streamlined the process since then (25-30 years ago). But it was a pile of paper to get through, make 2 copies of this, three copies of that, get it notarized, mail it off, wait a week, get more paperwork back, mail it off, etc like that. I just didn't have time for it. Rick |
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"mmc" wrote in message g.com... "Hoges in WA" wrote in message ... "mmc" wrote in message g.com... "cavelamb" ""cavelamb\"@ X earthlink.net" wrote in message m... On 4/9/2010 2:56 AM, Hoges in WA wrote: Hi Anyone care to recommend a website listing most boats for sale. I've got Yachtworld and YBW (same thing??) going but are there any others? I look at some individual brokers' sites occasionally but it seems that whatever they have rolls up into Yachtworld anyway. Are there any that allow you to key in -bavaria -beneteau -hunter etc so you can eliminate a lot of what you don't want to see? Not critical, just curious thanks Hoges in WA www.sailingtexas.com Covers most of the US, and the near islands. -- Richard Lamb http://www.home.earthlink.net/~cavelamb/ Sailingtexas is about the most popular I've seen. The free sites like this have driven boattrader almost out of business here in FL. There used to be 4-5 seperate books for the state but now we're down to 1 and it's pretty thin. I avoid brokers like the plague so I just use Yachtworld for the pretty pictures. Why so anti-broker? I thought they were supposed to act ethically etc etc. hoges in WA I won't cast aspersions on their characters but I will say that I'd rather skip paying a brokers commision and I can find a surveyor wherever the boat happens to be. I'd rather tour a boat with the owner than someone else (like me) that knows nothing about it. With the cheapy TomTom in my truck, finding a boat in an unfamiliar town isn't much of a challenge anymore either. As for the documentation, it was recommended to me by a friend to hire a specialist" (whatever these people are called) to do mine for a mere $400. I downloaded and printed the form and did it myself. Saved my $400 and IIRC it took all of about 15 minutes to prepare. I sent the forms and check to the CG and they sent back the documentation so I must not have made too many mistakes! I will be a non-US resident buying to stay in US waters for about a year then exiting US waters. I don't want to fall foul of any obscure tax traps, or inadvertently fail to register some bit of what I want to achieve. I know that thousands of people do/have done this so really it's not like dealing in a former Soviet but I'd like to be compliant with local laws. I'm sure going to need someone on the payroll! Hoges in WA |
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wrote in message ... On Sun, 11 Apr 2010 17:50:41 -0400, "mmc" wrote: I won't cast aspersions on their characters but I will say that I'd rather skip paying a brokers commision and I can find a surveyor wherever the boat happens to be. I'd rather tour a boat with the owner than someone else (like me) that knows nothing about it. With the cheapy TomTom in my truck, finding a boat in an unfamiliar town isn't much of a challenge anymore either. As for the documentation, it was recommended to me by a friend to hire a specialist" (whatever these people are called) to do mine for a mere $400. I downloaded and printed the form and did it myself. Saved my $400 and IIRC it took all of about 15 minutes to prepare. I sent the forms and check to the CG and they sent back the documentation so I must not have made too many mistakes! I don't remember what you call them either. My guy was a retired Coast Guard fellow that handled the CG end of the paper work for 30 years or so. He used to make a pretty good retirement income here doing nothing but Documented Vessel transfers. But it wasn't very expensive. I'm thinkin' $50 or maybe $75. Maybe they've streamlined the process since then (25-30 years ago). But it was a pile of paper to get through, make 2 copies of this, three copies of that, get it notarized, mail it off, wait a week, get more paperwork back, mail it off, etc like that. I just didn't have time for it. Rick Sounds like it's been made simpler Rick. Not that much of a hassle these days. $50- $75 wouldn't be bad but after paying for the boat a $400 (+ CG fees) tab for something of questionable value is a hard pill to swallow. The real value to me of documentation or rather re-documentation is in ensuring there were no liens against the boat. |
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"Hoges in WA" wrote in message ... "mmc" wrote in message g.com... "Hoges in WA" wrote in message ... "mmc" wrote in message g.com... "cavelamb" ""cavelamb\"@ X earthlink.net" wrote in message m... On 4/9/2010 2:56 AM, Hoges in WA wrote: Hi Anyone care to recommend a website listing most boats for sale. I've got Yachtworld and YBW (same thing??) going but are there any others? I look at some individual brokers' sites occasionally but it seems that whatever they have rolls up into Yachtworld anyway. Are there any that allow you to key in -bavaria -beneteau -hunter etc so you can eliminate a lot of what you don't want to see? Not critical, just curious thanks Hoges in WA www.sailingtexas.com Covers most of the US, and the near islands. -- Richard Lamb http://www.home.earthlink.net/~cavelamb/ Sailingtexas is about the most popular I've seen. The free sites like this have driven boattrader almost out of business here in FL. There used to be 4-5 seperate books for the state but now we're down to 1 and it's pretty thin. I avoid brokers like the plague so I just use Yachtworld for the pretty pictures. Why so anti-broker? I thought they were supposed to act ethically etc etc. hoges in WA I won't cast aspersions on their characters but I will say that I'd rather skip paying a brokers commision and I can find a surveyor wherever the boat happens to be. I'd rather tour a boat with the owner than someone else (like me) that knows nothing about it. With the cheapy TomTom in my truck, finding a boat in an unfamiliar town isn't much of a challenge anymore either. As for the documentation, it was recommended to me by a friend to hire a specialist" (whatever these people are called) to do mine for a mere $400. I downloaded and printed the form and did it myself. Saved my $400 and IIRC it took all of about 15 minutes to prepare. I sent the forms and check to the CG and they sent back the documentation so I must not have made too many mistakes! I will be a non-US resident buying to stay in US waters for about a year then exiting US waters. I don't want to fall foul of any obscure tax traps, or inadvertently fail to register some bit of what I want to achieve. I know that thousands of people do/have done this so really it's not like dealing in a former Soviet but I'd like to be compliant with local laws. I'm sure going to need someone on the payroll! Hoges in WA That's definitely a different situation than I'd be in. If I were doing what you are I'd use a broker too. Of the 5-6 I've dealt with, probably none were crooks, just in South Florida when a broker sees a guy drive up in an older vehicle (clean and well maintained but 5-10 years old), wearing flipflops and non-designer sunglasses rather than West Marine boutique crap, they write the guy off as either a looky loo or someone looking for a cheap boat. Car dealers do the same. When they turn up thier dainty little sunscreened noses I keep moving. Even though there is a listing database now like with real estate, it's been my experience that brokers push their own listings first (like in real estate, they get the entire commission) and their listings may or may not look anything like what you're after so push for what you want and not what they want to sell.. |
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"mmc" wrote in message g.com... "Hoges in WA" wrote in message ... "mmc" wrote in message g.com... "Hoges in WA" wrote in message ... "mmc" wrote in message g.com... "cavelamb" ""cavelamb\"@ X earthlink.net" wrote in message m... On 4/9/2010 2:56 AM, Hoges in WA wrote: Hi Anyone care to recommend a website listing most boats for sale. I've got Yachtworld and YBW (same thing??) going but are there any others? I look at some individual brokers' sites occasionally but it seems that whatever they have rolls up into Yachtworld anyway. Are there any that allow you to key in -bavaria -beneteau -hunter etc so you can eliminate a lot of what you don't want to see? Not critical, just curious thanks Hoges in WA www.sailingtexas.com Covers most of the US, and the near islands. -- Richard Lamb http://www.home.earthlink.net/~cavelamb/ Sailingtexas is about the most popular I've seen. The free sites like this have driven boattrader almost out of business here in FL. There used to be 4-5 seperate books for the state but now we're down to 1 and it's pretty thin. I avoid brokers like the plague so I just use Yachtworld for the pretty pictures. Why so anti-broker? I thought they were supposed to act ethically etc etc. hoges in WA I won't cast aspersions on their characters but I will say that I'd rather skip paying a brokers commision and I can find a surveyor wherever the boat happens to be. I'd rather tour a boat with the owner than someone else (like me) that knows nothing about it. With the cheapy TomTom in my truck, finding a boat in an unfamiliar town isn't much of a challenge anymore either. As for the documentation, it was recommended to me by a friend to hire a specialist" (whatever these people are called) to do mine for a mere $400. I downloaded and printed the form and did it myself. Saved my $400 and IIRC it took all of about 15 minutes to prepare. I sent the forms and check to the CG and they sent back the documentation so I must not have made too many mistakes! I will be a non-US resident buying to stay in US waters for about a year then exiting US waters. I don't want to fall foul of any obscure tax traps, or inadvertently fail to register some bit of what I want to achieve. I know that thousands of people do/have done this so really it's not like dealing in a former Soviet but I'd like to be compliant with local laws. I'm sure going to need someone on the payroll! Hoges in WA That's definitely a different situation than I'd be in. If I were doing what you are I'd use a broker too. Of the 5-6 I've dealt with, probably none were crooks, just in South Florida when a broker sees a guy drive up in an older vehicle (clean and well maintained but 5-10 years old), wearing flipflops and non-designer sunglasses rather than West Marine boutique crap, they write the guy off as either a looky loo or someone looking for a cheap boat. Car dealers do the same. When they turn up thier dainty little sunscreened noses I keep moving. Even though there is a listing database now like with real estate, it's been my experience that brokers push their own listings first (like in real estate, they get the entire commission) and their listings may or may not look anything like what you're after so push for what you want and not what they want to sell.. Yes, I'd be going there only to look at a specific boat that they had, not a general "So, what's available to stuff me with today?" We're going to get an apartment and look around for a few weeks or months. I sure hope you guys all learn to drive on the proper side of the road before I get there. Hoges in WA |
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On Mon, 12 Apr 2010 15:07:52 GMT, "Hoges in WA"
wrote: I sure hope you guys all learn to drive on the proper side of the road before I get there. Heh. Last month I was driving around on the wrong side of the road in Grenada. This month we're driving on the "right" side of the road in Martinique. The French got something else "right" beside wine, women and food. Internet service, not so much. |
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"Hoges in WA" wrote in message ... "mmc" wrote in message g.com... "Hoges in WA" wrote in message ... "mmc" wrote in message g.com... "Hoges in WA" wrote in message ... "mmc" wrote in message g.com... "cavelamb" ""cavelamb\"@ X earthlink.net" wrote in message m... On 4/9/2010 2:56 AM, Hoges in WA wrote: Hi Anyone care to recommend a website listing most boats for sale. I've got Yachtworld and YBW (same thing??) going but are there any others? I look at some individual brokers' sites occasionally but it seems that whatever they have rolls up into Yachtworld anyway. Are there any that allow you to key in -bavaria -beneteau -hunter etc so you can eliminate a lot of what you don't want to see? Not critical, just curious thanks Hoges in WA www.sailingtexas.com Covers most of the US, and the near islands. -- Richard Lamb http://www.home.earthlink.net/~cavelamb/ Sailingtexas is about the most popular I've seen. The free sites like this have driven boattrader almost out of business here in FL. There used to be 4-5 seperate books for the state but now we're down to 1 and it's pretty thin. I avoid brokers like the plague so I just use Yachtworld for the pretty pictures. Why so anti-broker? I thought they were supposed to act ethically etc etc. hoges in WA I won't cast aspersions on their characters but I will say that I'd rather skip paying a brokers commision and I can find a surveyor wherever the boat happens to be. I'd rather tour a boat with the owner than someone else (like me) that knows nothing about it. With the cheapy TomTom in my truck, finding a boat in an unfamiliar town isn't much of a challenge anymore either. As for the documentation, it was recommended to me by a friend to hire a specialist" (whatever these people are called) to do mine for a mere $400. I downloaded and printed the form and did it myself. Saved my $400 and IIRC it took all of about 15 minutes to prepare. I sent the forms and check to the CG and they sent back the documentation so I must not have made too many mistakes! I will be a non-US resident buying to stay in US waters for about a year then exiting US waters. I don't want to fall foul of any obscure tax traps, or inadvertently fail to register some bit of what I want to achieve. I know that thousands of people do/have done this so really it's not like dealing in a former Soviet but I'd like to be compliant with local laws. I'm sure going to need someone on the payroll! Hoges in WA That's definitely a different situation than I'd be in. If I were doing what you are I'd use a broker too. Of the 5-6 I've dealt with, probably none were crooks, just in South Florida when a broker sees a guy drive up in an older vehicle (clean and well maintained but 5-10 years old), wearing flipflops and non-designer sunglasses rather than West Marine boutique crap, they write the guy off as either a looky loo or someone looking for a cheap boat. Car dealers do the same. When they turn up thier dainty little sunscreened noses I keep moving. Even though there is a listing database now like with real estate, it's been my experience that brokers push their own listings first (like in real estate, they get the entire commission) and their listings may or may not look anything like what you're after so push for what you want and not what they want to sell.. Yes, I'd be going there only to look at a specific boat that they had, not a general "So, what's available to stuff me with today?" We're going to get an apartment and look around for a few weeks or months. I sure hope you guys all learn to drive on the proper side of the road before I get there. Hoges in WA Good luck. It's a good time to be buying over here. If I see you coming I'll get out of the way! |
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g.com... "Hoges in WA" wrote in message ... "mmc" wrote in message g.com... "Hoges in WA" wrote in message ... "mmc" wrote in message g.com... "Hoges in WA" wrote in message ... "mmc" wrote in message g.com... "cavelamb" ""cavelamb\"@ X earthlink.net" wrote in message m... On 4/9/2010 2:56 AM, Hoges in WA wrote: Hi Anyone care to recommend a website listing most boats for sale. I've got Yachtworld and YBW (same thing??) going but are there any others? I look at some individual brokers' sites occasionally but it seems that whatever they have rolls up into Yachtworld anyway. Are there any that allow you to key in -bavaria -beneteau -hunter etc so you can eliminate a lot of what you don't want to see? Not critical, just curious thanks Hoges in WA www.sailingtexas.com Covers most of the US, and the near islands. -- Richard Lamb http://www.home.earthlink.net/~cavelamb/ Sailingtexas is about the most popular I've seen. The free sites like this have driven boattrader almost out of business here in FL. There used to be 4-5 seperate books for the state but now we're down to 1 and it's pretty thin. I avoid brokers like the plague so I just use Yachtworld for the pretty pictures. Why so anti-broker? I thought they were supposed to act ethically etc etc. hoges in WA I won't cast aspersions on their characters but I will say that I'd rather skip paying a brokers commision and I can find a surveyor wherever the boat happens to be. I'd rather tour a boat with the owner than someone else (like me) that knows nothing about it. With the cheapy TomTom in my truck, finding a boat in an unfamiliar town isn't much of a challenge anymore either. As for the documentation, it was recommended to me by a friend to hire a specialist" (whatever these people are called) to do mine for a mere $400. I downloaded and printed the form and did it myself. Saved my $400 and IIRC it took all of about 15 minutes to prepare. I sent the forms and check to the CG and they sent back the documentation so I must not have made too many mistakes! I will be a non-US resident buying to stay in US waters for about a year then exiting US waters. I don't want to fall foul of any obscure tax traps, or inadvertently fail to register some bit of what I want to achieve. I know that thousands of people do/have done this so really it's not like dealing in a former Soviet but I'd like to be compliant with local laws. I'm sure going to need someone on the payroll! Hoges in WA That's definitely a different situation than I'd be in. If I were doing what you are I'd use a broker too. Of the 5-6 I've dealt with, probably none were crooks, just in South Florida when a broker sees a guy drive up in an older vehicle (clean and well maintained but 5-10 years old), wearing flipflops and non-designer sunglasses rather than West Marine boutique crap, they write the guy off as either a looky loo or someone looking for a cheap boat. Car dealers do the same. When they turn up thier dainty little sunscreened noses I keep moving. Even though there is a listing database now like with real estate, it's been my experience that brokers push their own listings first (like in real estate, they get the entire commission) and their listings may or may not look anything like what you're after so push for what you want and not what they want to sell.. Yes, I'd be going there only to look at a specific boat that they had, not a general "So, what's available to stuff me with today?" We're going to get an apartment and look around for a few weeks or months. I sure hope you guys all learn to drive on the proper side of the road before I get there. Hoges in WA Good luck. It's a good time to be buying over here. If I see you coming I'll get out of the way! Same here. :-) -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com |
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Another spot to look at is the classifieds on Latitude 38. Gordon |
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