Anybody have one of these on his sailboat?

http://www.onlineoutboards.com/Tohat...p-MFS6BUL.html


Looks like a good deal. Thinking of buying one myself. Around 60 pounds,
uses only half a gallon of gasoline at full throttle in an hour. Has a 6 amp
alternator, extra long shaft. Looking to replace my old, 100 pound, Honda
9.9 which has a cracked block leaking cooling water and patched with 5200.
Don't trust it anymore. Only need a small engine for when there's little or
no wind. The rest of the time I sail.


Wilbur Hubbard

Wilbur Hubbard wrote:
Anybody have one of these on his sailboat?

http://www.onlineoutboards.com/Tohat...p-MFS6BUL.html


Looks like a good deal. Thinking of buying one myself. Around 60 pounds,
uses only half a gallon of gasoline at full throttle in an hour. Has a 6 amp
alternator, extra long shaft. Looking to replace my old, 100 pound, Honda
9.9 which has a cracked block leaking cooling water and patched with 5200.
Don't trust it anymore. Only need a small engine for when there's little or
no wind. The rest of the time I sail.


Wilbur Hubbard



Pick carefully.
For a sailboat, a long shaft is important, but so is the final gearing
and prop size. One model (number?) has lower gearing and a much larger
prop - something like 10 to 12 inch diameter as opposed to 6 to 9.

The bigger prop model is the one you want.


--

Richard Lamb
http://www.home.earthlink.net/~cavelamb/

On Mon, 29 Mar 2010 17:14:09 -0400, WaIIy wrote:

On Mon, 29 Mar 2010 16:55:56 -0400, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote:

Anybody have one of these on his sailboat?

http://www.onlineoutboards.com/Tohat...p-MFS6BUL.html


Looks like a good deal. Thinking of buying one myself. Around 60 pounds,
uses only half a gallon of gasoline at full throttle in an hour. Has a 6 amp
alternator, extra long shaft. Looking to replace my old, 100 pound, Honda
9.9 which has a cracked block leaking cooling water and patched with 5200.
Don't trust it anymore. Only need a small engine for when there's little or
no wind. The rest of the time I sail.


Wilbur Hubbard


This is interesting..

Tohatsu is the maker of all Nissan outboards. They are identical with
the exception of brand label (decals). Nissans are typically slightly
higher in price as a result of the premium branding. There is no
difference in features, specifications, or warranty. The only difference
is the decals.

Does Tohatsu make Nissan and Mercury outboards?
Yes. Tohatsu makes ALL Nissan outboards and Mercury outboards below
40hp. We do not sell Mercury outboards as Tohatsu and Nissan are
considerably less expensive than the Mercury label.

You see them here,occasionally. Either they don't have an aggressive
sales program or they just aren't popular. Probably the most popular
O.B. here is the Mariner.

Cheers,

Bruce
(bruceinbangkokatgmaildotcom)

On Tue, 30 Mar 2010 14:58:11 +0700, bruceinbangkok wrote:
On Mon, 29 Mar 2010 17:14:09 -0400, WaIIy wrote:
On Mon, 29 Mar 2010 16:55:56 -0400, "Wilbur Hubbard" wrote:
Anybody have one of these on his sailboat?
http://www.onlineoutboards.com/Tohat...p-MFS6BUL.html
Looks like a good deal. Thinking of buying one myself. Around 60 pounds,
uses only half a gallon of gasoline at full throttle in an hour. Has a 6 amp
alternator, extra long shaft. Looking to replace my old, 100 pound, Honda
9.9 which has a cracked block leaking cooling water and patched with 5200.
Don't trust it anymore. Only need a small engine for when there's little or
no wind. The rest of the time I sail.
Wilbur Hubbard

This is interesting..
Tohatsu is the maker of all Nissan outboards. They are identical with
the exception of brand label (decals). Nissans are typically slightly
higher in price as a result of the premium branding. There is no
difference in features, specifications, or warranty. The only difference
is the decals.

Does Tohatsu make Nissan and Mercury outboards?
Yes. Tohatsu makes ALL Nissan outboards and Mercury outboards below
40hp. We do not sell Mercury outboards as Tohatsu and Nissan are
considerably less expensive than the Mercury label.

You see them here,occasionally. Either they don't have an aggressive
sales program or they just aren't popular. Probably the most popular
O.B. here is the Mariner.
Cheers,
Bruce
(bruceinbangkokatgmaildotcom)

I have that engine but mine is a 20" shaft and so far has a std prop.
I'll be getting the H/T prop soon. But I don't expect it to produce
suitable primary power for a boat heavier than 2000 - 2500lbs tops.
Yes it would push a heavier boat in no wind conditions but not if the
tide was running. My only complaint is the steering friction design.
No matter how hard I tighten it, I can't completely lock the steering
in place. Saw a fellow on another message board (on the Web) with the
same engine that finally duct taped his shaft to the bracket. He
claims that worked. -shrug-
As someone upthread mentioned, the prop diameter is limited to 8 3/8"
Max and the gearing is too high to compete with the likes of Yamaha
H/T motors. On the other hand it's much lighter and a lot less
expensive.
And yes, that same engine also carries Nissan and Mercury decals.
Probably Mariner too, I dunno. But parts are readily available from
any of those sources.
Overall I like my little engine. It's light, doesn't burn much fuel,
easy maintenance, and it starts easily. It's not the right tool for
every job though.
Rick

"Bruce" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 29 Mar 2010 17:14:09 -0400, WaIIy wrote:

On Mon, 29 Mar 2010 16:55:56 -0400, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote:

Anybody have one of these on his sailboat?

http://www.onlineoutboards.com/Tohat...p-MFS6BUL.html


Looks like a good deal. Thinking of buying one myself. Around 60 pounds,
uses only half a gallon of gasoline at full throttle in an hour. Has a 6
amp
alternator, extra long shaft. Looking to replace my old, 100 pound, Honda
9.9 which has a cracked block leaking cooling water and patched with
5200.
Don't trust it anymore. Only need a small engine for when there's little
or
no wind. The rest of the time I sail.


Wilbur Hubbard


This is interesting..

Tohatsu is the maker of all Nissan outboards. They are identical with
the exception of brand label (decals). Nissans are typically slightly
higher in price as a result of the premium branding. There is no
difference in features, specifications, or warranty. The only difference
is the decals.

Does Tohatsu make Nissan and Mercury outboards?
Yes. Tohatsu makes ALL Nissan outboards and Mercury outboards below
40hp. We do not sell Mercury outboards as Tohatsu and Nissan are
considerably less expensive than the Mercury label.

You see them here,occasionally. Either they don't have an aggressive
sales program or they just aren't popular. Probably the most popular
O.B. here is the Mariner.


Bruce, you're clueless as usual. Anything under 40 hp sold by Mariner is a
Tohatsu with different paint and decals. You write such ignorance as you did
immediately below an attribution that explains your ignorance? What are you
smoking, dude?

Wilbur Hubbard

On Tue, 30 Mar 2010 11:03:54 -0400, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote:

"Bruce" wrote in message
.. .
On Mon, 29 Mar 2010 17:14:09 -0400, WaIIy wrote:

On Mon, 29 Mar 2010 16:55:56 -0400, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote:

Anybody have one of these on his sailboat?

http://www.onlineoutboards.com/Tohat...p-MFS6BUL.html


Looks like a good deal. Thinking of buying one myself. Around 60 pounds,
uses only half a gallon of gasoline at full throttle in an hour. Has a 6
amp
alternator, extra long shaft. Looking to replace my old, 100 pound, Honda
9.9 which has a cracked block leaking cooling water and patched with
5200.
Don't trust it anymore. Only need a small engine for when there's little
or
no wind. The rest of the time I sail.


Wilbur Hubbard


This is interesting..

Tohatsu is the maker of all Nissan outboards. They are identical with
the exception of brand label (decals). Nissans are typically slightly
higher in price as a result of the premium branding. There is no
difference in features, specifications, or warranty. The only difference
is the decals.

Does Tohatsu make Nissan and Mercury outboards?
Yes. Tohatsu makes ALL Nissan outboards and Mercury outboards below
40hp. We do not sell Mercury outboards as Tohatsu and Nissan are
considerably less expensive than the Mercury label.

You see them here,occasionally. Either they don't have an aggressive
sales program or they just aren't popular. Probably the most popular
O.B. here is the Mariner.


Bruce, you're clueless as usual. Anything under 40 hp sold by Mariner is a
Tohatsu with different paint and decals. You write such ignorance as you did
immediately below an attribution that explains your ignorance? What are you
smoking, dude?

Wilbur Hubbard


One shouldn't argue with a fool, but....

Nowhere did I say that Mariner engines were or were not made by anyone
other then Mariner.

What I did say was that Mariner is more common brand here.

Apparently you are sadly lacking in English comprehension skills.
Perhaps there are adult education classes that you could attend to
remedy your deficiency.

Cheers,

Bruce
(bruceinbangkokatgmaildotcom)

"Bruce" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 30 Mar 2010 11:03:54 -0400, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote:

"Bruce" wrote in message
. ..
On Mon, 29 Mar 2010 17:14:09 -0400, WaIIy wrote:

On Mon, 29 Mar 2010 16:55:56 -0400, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote:

Anybody have one of these on his sailboat?

http://www.onlineoutboards.com/Tohat...p-MFS6BUL.html


Looks like a good deal. Thinking of buying one myself. Around 60
pounds,
uses only half a gallon of gasoline at full throttle in an hour. Has a
6
amp
alternator, extra long shaft. Looking to replace my old, 100 pound,
Honda
9.9 which has a cracked block leaking cooling water and patched with
5200.
Don't trust it anymore. Only need a small engine for when there's
little
or
no wind. The rest of the time I sail.


Wilbur Hubbard


This is interesting..

Tohatsu is the maker of all Nissan outboards. They are identical with
the exception of brand label (decals). Nissans are typically slightly
higher in price as a result of the premium branding. There is no
difference in features, specifications, or warranty. The only difference
is the decals.

Does Tohatsu make Nissan and Mercury outboards?
Yes. Tohatsu makes ALL Nissan outboards and Mercury outboards below
40hp. We do not sell Mercury outboards as Tohatsu and Nissan are
considerably less expensive than the Mercury label.

You see them here,occasionally. Either they don't have an aggressive
sales program or they just aren't popular. Probably the most popular
O.B. here is the Mariner.


Bruce, you're clueless as usual. Anything under 40 hp sold by Mariner is a
Tohatsu with different paint and decals. You write such ignorance as you
did
immediately below an attribution that explains your ignorance? What are
you
smoking, dude?

Wilbur Hubbard


One shouldn't argue with a fool, but....

Nowhere did I say that Mariner engines were or were not made by anyone
other then Mariner.

What I did say was that Mariner is more common brand here.

Apparently you are sadly lacking in English comprehension skills.
Perhaps there are adult education classes that you could attend to
remedy your deficiency.




Senile old fart! - a Tohatsu by any other name is still a Tohatsu. If you
slap a Chevrolet sticker on a Ford does it make the Ford a Chevrolet? Duh!


Wilbur Hubbard

On Wed, 31 Mar 2010 10:01:48 -0400, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote:

"Bruce" wrote in message
.. .
On Tue, 30 Mar 2010 11:03:54 -0400, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote:

"Bruce" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 29 Mar 2010 17:14:09 -0400, WaIIy wrote:

On Mon, 29 Mar 2010 16:55:56 -0400, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote:

Anybody have one of these on his sailboat?

http://www.onlineoutboards.com/Tohat...p-MFS6BUL.html


Looks like a good deal. Thinking of buying one myself. Around 60
pounds,
uses only half a gallon of gasoline at full throttle in an hour. Has a
6
amp
alternator, extra long shaft. Looking to replace my old, 100 pound,
Honda
9.9 which has a cracked block leaking cooling water and patched with
5200.
Don't trust it anymore. Only need a small engine for when there's
little
or
no wind. The rest of the time I sail.


Wilbur Hubbard


This is interesting..

Tohatsu is the maker of all Nissan outboards. They are identical with
the exception of brand label (decals). Nissans are typically slightly
higher in price as a result of the premium branding. There is no
difference in features, specifications, or warranty. The only difference
is the decals.

Does Tohatsu make Nissan and Mercury outboards?
Yes. Tohatsu makes ALL Nissan outboards and Mercury outboards below
40hp. We do not sell Mercury outboards as Tohatsu and Nissan are
considerably less expensive than the Mercury label.

You see them here,occasionally. Either they don't have an aggressive
sales program or they just aren't popular. Probably the most popular
O.B. here is the Mariner.


Bruce, you're clueless as usual. Anything under 40 hp sold by Mariner is a
Tohatsu with different paint and decals. You write such ignorance as you
did
immediately below an attribution that explains your ignorance? What are
you
smoking, dude?

Wilbur Hubbard


One shouldn't argue with a fool, but....

Nowhere did I say that Mariner engines were or were not made by anyone
other then Mariner.

What I did say was that Mariner is more common brand here.

Apparently you are sadly lacking in English comprehension skills.
Perhaps there are adult education classes that you could attend to
remedy your deficiency.




Senile old fart! - a Tohatsu by any other name is still a Tohatsu. If you
slap a Chevrolet sticker on a Ford does it make the Ford a Chevrolet? Duh!


Wilbur Hubbard


Well tell me, or great Pundit, does the tag "IBM Thinkpad" on a
computer mean it is an IBM product? Does the tag "IBM" on the original
PC monitor mean it was made by IBM? Does the tag "Made in the USA"
mean that it was constructed in the U.S.?

The Thinkpad was made by Lenovo who ultimately purchased IBM's laptop
division.

The original IBM PC monitor was made by a Taiwanese company.

The term "Made in the USA" simply means that some portion of the
device was made or assembled in the U.S.

And, now that you have been exposed yet again, as a fool, and
attempted to win the debate with a personal attack rather then logic,
and been exposed again as an idiot, for umpteenth time, what is your
next move?

One assumes that you will now make a series of personal attacks in
order to obscure the fact that you made a statement that indicates
either that (1) you lack English reading comprehension skills or, (2)
you are a liar.The only question is which? And it is likely the vast
majority of your readers will have no problem with selecting the
correct answer.

Cheers,

Bruce
(bruceinbangkokatgmaildotcom)

"Bruce" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 31 Mar 2010 10:01:48 -0400, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote:

"Bruce" wrote in message
. ..
On Tue, 30 Mar 2010 11:03:54 -0400, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote:

"Bruce" wrote in message
m...
On Mon, 29 Mar 2010 17:14:09 -0400, WaIIy wrote:

On Mon, 29 Mar 2010 16:55:56 -0400, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote:

Anybody have one of these on his sailboat?

http://www.onlineoutboards.com/Tohat...p-MFS6BUL.html


Looks like a good deal. Thinking of buying one myself. Around 60
pounds,
uses only half a gallon of gasoline at full throttle in an hour. Has
a
6
amp
alternator, extra long shaft. Looking to replace my old, 100 pound,
Honda
9.9 which has a cracked block leaking cooling water and patched with
5200.
Don't trust it anymore. Only need a small engine for when there's
little
or
no wind. The rest of the time I sail.


Wilbur Hubbard


This is interesting..

Tohatsu is the maker of all Nissan outboards. They are identical with
the exception of brand label (decals). Nissans are typically slightly
higher in price as a result of the premium branding. There is no
difference in features, specifications, or warranty. The only
difference
is the decals.

Does Tohatsu make Nissan and Mercury outboards?
Yes. Tohatsu makes ALL Nissan outboards and Mercury outboards below
40hp. We do not sell Mercury outboards as Tohatsu and Nissan are
considerably less expensive than the Mercury label.

You see them here,occasionally. Either they don't have an aggressive
sales program or they just aren't popular. Probably the most popular
O.B. here is the Mariner.


Bruce, you're clueless as usual. Anything under 40 hp sold by Mariner is
a
Tohatsu with different paint and decals. You write such ignorance as you
did
immediately below an attribution that explains your ignorance? What are
you
smoking, dude?

Wilbur Hubbard


One shouldn't argue with a fool, but....

Nowhere did I say that Mariner engines were or were not made by anyone
other then Mariner.

What I did say was that Mariner is more common brand here.

Apparently you are sadly lacking in English comprehension skills.
Perhaps there are adult education classes that you could attend to
remedy your deficiency.




Senile old fart! - a Tohatsu by any other name is still a Tohatsu. If you
slap a Chevrolet sticker on a Ford does it make the Ford a Chevrolet?
Duh!


Wilbur Hubbard


Well tell me, or great Pundit, does the tag "IBM Thinkpad" on a
computer mean it is an IBM product? Does the tag "IBM" on the original
PC monitor mean it was made by IBM? Does the tag "Made in the USA"
mean that it was constructed in the U.S.?



Exactly my point! Your statement that Mariners are most popular around
there belies the fact that those Mariners under 40 HP are disguised
Tohatsu's just like the present day Think Pad is a Lenovo and not an IBM
product. And, misdirecting the discussion to place of manufacture is just
that - a misdirection of the discussion because you know damned well you
haven't a leg to stand on.


The Thinkpad was made by Lenovo who ultimately purchased IBM's laptop
division.

Misdirection because you are trying to compare apples and oranges. Thinkpad
was a model number not a manufacturer's name. Mariner is not a model number.
Duh!


The original IBM PC monitor was made by a Taiwanese company.

Unrelated to the discussion at hand.



The term "Made in the USA" simply means that some portion of the
device was made or assembled in the U.S.

Obfuscation!


And, now that you have been exposed yet again, as a fool, and
attempted to win the debate with a personal attack rather then logic,
and been exposed again as an idiot, for umpteenth time, what is your
next move?

You are the one roundly exposed as lacking in debating skills. Your entire
argument has been exposed as a non sequitur. If you would attempt to win a
debate you must debate the issue at hand and not attempt to misdirect the
issue to some other issue. Doing so demonstrates a lack of understanding and
explains quite well why you can't understand how ignorant your statement is
that Mariners are more popular around there.


One assumes that you will now make a series of personal attacks in
order to obscure the fact that you made a statement that indicates
either that (1) you lack English reading comprehension skills or, (2)
you are a liar.The only question is which? And it is likely the vast
majority of your readers will have no problem with selecting the
correct answer.


One assumes incorrectly as I slammed you to the mat using simple logic.


Now comes the assessment of your lack of intelligence and standing - you
closed-minded dock rat, motorboater! That you're stuck in Thailand pretty
much proves that you can't do anything right. Can you say halfway or
half-assed?


Wilbur Hubbard

On Thu, 1 Apr 2010 10:00:02 -0400, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote:

"Bruce" wrote in message
.. .
On Wed, 31 Mar 2010 10:01:48 -0400, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote:

"Bruce" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 30 Mar 2010 11:03:54 -0400, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote:

"Bruce" wrote in message
om...
On Mon, 29 Mar 2010 17:14:09 -0400, WaIIy wrote:

On Mon, 29 Mar 2010 16:55:56 -0400, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote:

Anybody have one of these on his sailboat?

http://www.onlineoutboards.com/Tohat...p-MFS6BUL.html


Looks like a good deal. Thinking of buying one myself. Around 60
pounds,
uses only half a gallon of gasoline at full throttle in an hour. Has
a
6
amp
alternator, extra long shaft. Looking to replace my old, 100 pound,
Honda
9.9 which has a cracked block leaking cooling water and patched with
5200.
Don't trust it anymore. Only need a small engine for when there's
little
or
no wind. The rest of the time I sail.


Wilbur Hubbard


This is interesting..

Tohatsu is the maker of all Nissan outboards. They are identical with
the exception of brand label (decals). Nissans are typically slightly
higher in price as a result of the premium branding. There is no
difference in features, specifications, or warranty. The only
difference
is the decals.

Does Tohatsu make Nissan and Mercury outboards?
Yes. Tohatsu makes ALL Nissan outboards and Mercury outboards below
40hp. We do not sell Mercury outboards as Tohatsu and Nissan are
considerably less expensive than the Mercury label.

You see them here,occasionally. Either they don't have an aggressive
sales program or they just aren't popular. Probably the most popular
O.B. here is the Mariner.


Bruce, you're clueless as usual. Anything under 40 hp sold by Mariner is
a
Tohatsu with different paint and decals. You write such ignorance as you
did
immediately below an attribution that explains your ignorance? What are
you
smoking, dude?

Wilbur Hubbard


One shouldn't argue with a fool, but....

Nowhere did I say that Mariner engines were or were not made by anyone
other then Mariner.

What I did say was that Mariner is more common brand here.

Apparently you are sadly lacking in English comprehension skills.
Perhaps there are adult education classes that you could attend to
remedy your deficiency.




Senile old fart! - a Tohatsu by any other name is still a Tohatsu. If you
slap a Chevrolet sticker on a Ford does it make the Ford a Chevrolet?
Duh!


Wilbur Hubbard


Well tell me, or great Pundit, does the tag "IBM Thinkpad" on a
computer mean it is an IBM product? Does the tag "IBM" on the original
PC monitor mean it was made by IBM? Does the tag "Made in the USA"
mean that it was constructed in the U.S.?



Exactly my point! Your statement that Mariners are most popular around
there belies the fact that those Mariners under 40 HP are disguised
Tohatsu's just like the present day Think Pad is a Lenovo and not an IBM
product. And, misdirecting the discussion to place of manufacture is just
that - a misdirection of the discussion because you know damned well you
haven't a leg to stand on.


The Thinkpad was made by Lenovo who ultimately purchased IBM's laptop
division.

Misdirection because you are trying to compare apples and oranges. Thinkpad
was a model number not a manufacturer's name. Mariner is not a model number.
Duh!


The original IBM PC monitor was made by a Taiwanese company.

Unrelated to the discussion at hand.



The term "Made in the USA" simply means that some portion of the
device was made or assembled in the U.S.

Obfuscation!


And, now that you have been exposed yet again, as a fool, and
attempted to win the debate with a personal attack rather then logic,
and been exposed again as an idiot, for umpteenth time, what is your
next move?

You are the one roundly exposed as lacking in debating skills. Your entire
argument has been exposed as a non sequitur. If you would attempt to win a
debate you must debate the issue at hand and not attempt to misdirect the
issue to some other issue. Doing so demonstrates a lack of understanding and
explains quite well why you can't understand how ignorant your statement is
that Mariners are more popular around there.


One assumes that you will now make a series of personal attacks in
order to obscure the fact that you made a statement that indicates
either that (1) you lack English reading comprehension skills or, (2)
you are a liar.The only question is which? And it is likely the vast
majority of your readers will have no problem with selecting the
correct answer.


One assumes incorrectly as I slammed you to the mat using simple logic.


Now comes the assessment of your lack of intelligence and standing - you
closed-minded dock rat, motorboater! That you're stuck in Thailand pretty
much proves that you can't do anything right. Can you say halfway or
half-assed?


Willie,

I must say that you are adroit. You plead for information; I made an
admittedly vague but never the less possibly useful bit of
information, response indicating that some of the stingiest watermen
in the world don't seem to have any use for your preferred make, but
that I didn't know why.

You neither replied with whatever thanks were due for the bit of
information, nor ignored it, but rather started to berate me for a
totally unrelated bit in information - who actually manufacturers
specific makes and models of outboard motors. A subject that is
totally unrelated to the original subject.


Willie, I've got to say it, you are a piece of work.

Cheers,

Bruce
(bruceinbangkokatgmaildotcom)