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Top of the mast...
On Sun, 13 Dec 2009 16:37:27 -0800, "Capt. JG"
wrote: "Edgar" wrote in message ... "Capt. JG" wrote in message easolutions... "cavelamb" wrote in message m... I had to go up and reinstall an errant jib halyard today. Now I know why a kitten stuck in a tree waits for the fire department to come get him down... It's not so much the height - as the sway... Yeah. I would rather pay someone else to do that if at all possible. I don't mind it at all but my boat is very stable and I have never had to go up except in the marina. I had a good laugh some time ago when my brother climbed the mast of a boat that was raher too small for his weight and watched him as she slowly started to heel until he had to let go and drop into the water. I went up the mast (part-way) in the Med a long time ago to change a steaming light. It wasn't pleasant at all, and there was hardly any wind or rocking. Now, I refuse to go unless it's an emergency (so far so good). Took me 1/2 day to recover from seasickness. I guess it's not for everybody. I like going up, and everybody in the marina knows it. I get invited quite often. Standing on the edge of a roof bothers me, but for some reason, I'm not bothered in the slightest going up a mast. I now have a system for getting up the mast on my boat without any help, and I've considered the idea of going up just to take pictures in nice anchorages I visit. |
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... On Sun, 13 Dec 2009 16:37:27 -0800, "Capt. JG" wrote: "Edgar" wrote in message m... "Capt. JG" wrote in message easolutions... "cavelamb" wrote in message m... I had to go up and reinstall an errant jib halyard today. Now I know why a kitten stuck in a tree waits for the fire department to come get him down... It's not so much the height - as the sway... Yeah. I would rather pay someone else to do that if at all possible. I don't mind it at all but my boat is very stable and I have never had to go up except in the marina. I had a good laugh some time ago when my brother climbed the mast of a boat that was raher too small for his weight and watched him as she slowly started to heel until he had to let go and drop into the water. I went up the mast (part-way) in the Med a long time ago to change a steaming light. It wasn't pleasant at all, and there was hardly any wind or rocking. Now, I refuse to go unless it's an emergency (so far so good). Took me 1/2 day to recover from seasickness. I guess it's not for everybody. I like going up, and everybody in the marina knows it. I get invited quite often. Standing on the edge of a roof bothers me, but for some reason, I'm not bothered in the slightest going up a mast. I now have a system for getting up the mast on my boat without any help, and I've considered the idea of going up just to take pictures in nice anchorages I visit. The shots you get can be pretty amazing. I like the ones straight down. I'll have a get someone to do that next time. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com |
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"Capt. JG" wrote in message
easolutions... The shots you get can be pretty amazing. I like the ones straight down. I'll have a get someone to do that next time. -- "j" ganz Do you still get the urge to fly? Bwahahhahahahahhahaha. -- Gregory Hall |
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Hoses (WAS) Top of the mast...
I'll pay someone to replace the holding tank hose...
Heh... -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com My solution to the problem was to go to PVC. It survived our wreck - it will surely survive anything you can throw at it in regular use. I wasn't smart enough yet - I learned more at the aft head - so my forward head has a small section of the best head hose there is between the toilet and the pipe in the wall (perhaps 8" total), and at the Y (two more short sections), one from the holding tank and the other to the through hull. Perhaps one day I'll make up the section of PVC to take away the section at the head; the other is a bit more challenging, so likely I'll not bother. My gallery has detailed pix on both installations in our initial refit section, but I'm a bit pushed for time, so I apologize for not having the specific section/pix to direct you to see it. Suffice to say that there are NO hose points in my aft head. "Head smell" is a thing of the past on Flying Pig, forever. WAY cheaper than that fancy hose, too, and a full 1.5" inside... L8R Skip -- Morgan 461 #2 SV Flying Pig KI4MPC See our galleries at www.justpickone.org/skip/gallery ! Follow us at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/TheFlyingPigLog and/or http://groups.google.com/group/flyingpiglog "You are never given a wish without also being given the power to make it come true. You may have to work for it however." (and) "There is no such thing as a problem without a gift for you in its hand (Richard Bach) |
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Hoses (WAS) Top of the mast...
Flying Pig wrote:
I'll pay someone to replace the holding tank hose... Heh... -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com My solution to the problem was to go to PVC. It survived our wreck - it will surely survive anything you can throw at it in regular use. I wasn't smart enough yet - I learned more at the aft head - so my forward head has a small section of the best head hose there is between the toilet and the pipe in the wall (perhaps 8" total), and at the Y (two more short sections), one from the holding tank and the other to the through hull. Perhaps one day I'll make up the section of PVC to take away the section at the head; the other is a bit more challenging, so likely I'll not bother. My gallery has detailed pix on both installations in our initial refit section, but I'm a bit pushed for time, so I apologize for not having the specific section/pix to direct you to see it. Suffice to say that there are NO hose points in my aft head. "Head smell" is a thing of the past on Flying Pig, forever. WAY cheaper than that fancy hose, too, and a full 1.5" inside... L8R Skip I read that in a previous message, Skip. But I haven't dug through all your photos in quite a while. Someday you need to organize and index that mess! That will keep until you retire, though. A question? How does one connect to the tank outlet and (in my case) macerator pump inlet using PVC? |
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Hoses (WAS) Top of the mast...
"Flying Pig" wrote in message
... I'll pay someone to replace the holding tank hose... Heh... -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com My solution to the problem was to go to PVC. It survived our wreck - it will surely survive anything you can throw at it in regular use. I wasn't smart enough yet - I learned more at the aft head - so my forward head has a small section of the best head hose there is between the toilet and the pipe in the wall (perhaps 8" total), and at the Y (two more short sections), one from the holding tank and the other to the through hull. Perhaps one day I'll make up the section of PVC to take away the section at the head; the other is a bit more challenging, so likely I'll not bother. My gallery has detailed pix on both installations in our initial refit section, but I'm a bit pushed for time, so I apologize for not having the specific section/pix to direct you to see it. Suffice to say that there are NO hose points in my aft head. "Head smell" is a thing of the past on Flying Pig, forever. WAY cheaper than that fancy hose, too, and a full 1.5" inside... L8R Skip -- Morgan 461 #2 SV Flying Pig KI4MPC See our galleries at www.justpickone.org/skip/gallery ! Follow us at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/TheFlyingPigLog and/or http://groups.google.com/group/flyingpiglog "You are never given a wish without also being given the power to make it come true. You may have to work for it however." (and) "There is no such thing as a problem without a gift for you in its hand (Richard Bach) I thought about converting to the PVC solution, but there's currently no problem, so I'm going to wait until the hoses need to be changed. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com |
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"cavelamb" wrote in message m... I had to go up and reinstall an errant jib halyard today. Now I know why a kitten stuck in a tree waits for the fire department to come get him down... It's not so much the height - as the sway... Now think about a sixteen-year-old girl doing that in the great Southern Ocean... Tom |
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Hoses
A question?
How does one connect to the tank outlet and (in my case) macerator pump inlet using PVC? Hi, Richard, The standard hose outlet fitting takes, of course, 1.5" hose. That hose OD is exactly the outside diameter of 1.5" pipe. So, I put a sleeve of hose on the barb fitting. making it exactly match the end of the barb fitting. I make the connection a tight butt (in our aft through-hull, it was a slight - maybe 3* - off-line, so I shaved the end of the pipe, very carefully, to the proper angle to make it a tight butt fitting). A standard waste pipe rubber coupling sleeve goes over both. Liberal application of KY equivalent or teflon grease will allow later moving, as was the case in my forward head, where I changed out the Y valve, and my aft head, in which I replaced everything but the bowl - loosen the clamps, slide the coupling up on the PVC to get it out of the way, and do what you need to do. Slide it back down to reinstall. In addition to the standard two hose clamps supplied with the coupling, I put another right over the butt. That prevents any seepage from getting to the rest of the coupling. NO possibility of odor transfer. When I took off my couplings to do my work on both heads, once the other end was out of the way, I pulled off the coupling and looked inside. Not a mark of seepage on either one... Odor-safe or whatever the white hose marketer is, in their website, sells PVC connectors which are the right size for attaching a hose; even they recommend PVC where possible. Since, other than in the forward head, I didn't have any hose points, that was irrelevant. In the forward head, where I had a small section of hose into the wall, I just took a standard hardware fitting (screws into the threaded coupling in the PVC) and ground off the barbs until the 1.5" hose fit it, something I learned from seeing it on some other application when I got the boat. When I redo that front head part, I'll unthread the coupling and replace it with straight PVC, making my bends as needed to match up perfectly with the toilet outlet, using the same sleeve idea to make the rubber coupling fit. When I rebuild the pump, all I'll have to do is slide the coupling up the PVC, and remove it, if just undoing the bolts on the joker holder isn't sufficient. One other hint, also long-ago discussed here with Peggie, is that we very aggressively flush with raw water after each use. That helps move any urine products through the system, minimizing scale formation. We then also dry pump aggressively to empty the pipe to the anti-siphon. PVC will take muriatic acid and vinegar with aplomb (get your plomb here, folks, going fast!), so we do that regularly, too. Of course, we have no proof, but I'd bet a bunch that we have no scale in our pipes... HTH L8R Skip -- Morgan 461 #2 SV Flying Pig KI4MPC See our galleries at www.justpickone.org/skip/gallery ! Follow us at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/TheFlyingPigLog and/or http://groups.google.com/group/flyingpiglog "You are never given a wish without also being given the power to make it come true. You may have to work for it however." (and) "There is no such thing as a problem without a gift for you in its hand (Richard Bach) |
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Hoses
Flying Pig wrote:
One other hint, also long-ago discussed here with Peggie, is that we very aggressively flush with raw water after each use. That helps move any urine products through the system, minimizing scale formation. We then also dry pump aggressively to empty the pipe to the anti-siphon. PVC will take muriatic acid and vinegar with aplomb (get your plomb here, folks, going fast!), so we do that regularly, too. Of course, we have no proof, but I'd bet a bunch that we have no scale in our pipes... HTH L8R Skip Thanks, Skip. I'll take a look at it in that light... |
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Top of the mast...
Tom Dacon wrote:
"cavelamb" wrote in message m... I had to go up and reinstall an errant jib halyard today. Now I know why a kitten stuck in a tree waits for the fire department to come get him down... It's not so much the height - as the sway... Now think about a sixteen-year-old girl doing that in the great Southern Ocean... Tom girl, boy? When i was 16 free climbing the mast to scare my parents was great fun. |
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