We are going to Central America. Local fruits and vegetables may be
contaminated. What do we wash them with (e.g., 1 gal desalinated water
with 1 tbsp clorox)?


Hanz

On Nov 12, 9:43*am, Hanz wrote:
We are going to Central America. *Local fruits and vegetables may be
contaminated. *What do we wash them with (e.g., 1 gal desalinated water
with 1 tbsp clorox)?

Hanz

Hello Hanz,

Did you get the cruising guide I suggested?
What kind of boat do you have?
Where are you departing from?
How many crew?
When you kicking off?

Joe

Hanz wrote:
We are going to Central America. Local fruits and vegetables may be
contaminated. What do we wash them with (e.g., 1 gal desalinated water
with 1 tbsp clorox)?


Besides what you've been told (good advice), make sure you put all your
produce in a net sort of carrying thing. Then dip the produce into the
ocean BEFORE bringing aboard (unless your anchorage is badly polluted).

This will cause vermin to drown or flee your produce. It's bad enough
how roaches can come aboard hiding in your clothes WHILE YOU WEAR THEM.
One load of fruit can infest your boat if you aren't careful.

On Nov 12, 9:43*am, Hanz wrote:
We are going to Central America. *Local fruits and vegetables may be
contaminated. *What do we wash them with (e.g., 1 gal desalinated water
with 1 tbsp clorox)?

Hanz

Jeezus christ Hans your going to CA.

Catch a few big tunas and chop them into little bits, drown them with
a couple of lemons and limes in a big bowl, add a red onion peeled and
chopped, couple of tomatoes, diced jalapenos, diced celery, some fresh
cilantro, minced garlic, dash of olive oil, little sea salt,
pepper ......man you went and made me hungry.

The lime and lemon juice will kill the bugs and it keeps well in the
box. Clorox is for kids.

Make sure to get some Jimica roots,chop em up toss them into a bowl
of lime juice let is soak and then spice it up with a bit of chili
pepper, perfect for a long watch on the wheel. And in Belize you can
get some big bags of salted pumpkin seeds that are to die for. There
is a little old lady on the north side of town in san pedro that will
fix you up with the best veggies. Just ask anyone about the lady who
got run over and now runs a fruit and veggie stand, if you buy alot of
stuff she will pull the good stuff out from behind her stand and fix
you up right.

Joe

On Nov 13, 9:04*pm, Joe wrote:
On Nov 12, 9:43*am, Hanz wrote:

We are going to Central America. *Local fruits and vegetables may be
contaminated. *What do we wash them with (e.g., 1 gal desalinated water
with 1 tbsp clorox)?

Hanz

Jeezus christ Hans your going to CA.

Catch a few big tunas and chop them into little bits, drown them with
a couple of lemons and limes in a big bowl, add a red onion peeled and
chopped, couple of tomatoes, diced jalapenos, diced celery, some fresh
cilantro, minced garlic, dash of olive oil, little sea salt,
pepper ......man you went and made me hungry.

The lime and lemon juice will kill the bugs and it keeps well in the
box. Clorox is for kids.

No the lime and lemon juice will NOT kill bacteria.

A famous case is described in the book, _The Coming Plague_. There was
a small cholera outbreak in Chile. It came from a freighter flushing
its bilges too close to shore. Some minister of health suggested that
people not eat fish for a while. Naturally the fishing industry was
outraged and prevailed on the government to countermand that
suggestion. In fact the President of Chile went on TV and ate ceviche,
proclaiming that everything was all right. Of course it was never
mentioned that the Prez' ceviche came from a hundred miles offshore.

The small cholera outbreak turned into a full-blown epidemic that
killed hundreds of people.

I would suggest checking the FDA or CDC websites for more accurate
information. Bleach and peroxide were mentioned, and they are probably
good. I have also heard that potassium permanganate is also effective,
but it might be harder to get a hold of.

Good luck,

Chris


*Make sure to get some Jimica roots,chop em up toss them into a bowl
of lime juice let is soak and then spice it up with a bit of chili
pepper, perfect for a long watch on the wheel. And in Belize you can
get some big bags of salted pumpkin seeds that are to die for. There
is a little old lady on the north side of town in san pedro that will
fix you up with the best veggies. Just ask anyone about the lady who
got run over and now runs a fruit and veggie stand, if you buy alot of
stuff she will pull the good stuff out from behind her stand and fix
you up right.

Joe

Chris wrote:
... FDA or CDC websites for more accurate
information. Bleach and peroxide were mentioned, and they are probably
good. I have also heard that potassium permanganate is also effective,
but it might be harder to get a hold of.

Good luck,

Chris

All strong oxidizers. I think potassium permanganate, that former
favorite of chemistry sets for kids, is now discouraged as carcinogenic

Brian W

On Nov 19, 7:04 am, brian whatcott wrote:
Chris wrote:
... FDA or CDC websites for more accurate
information. Bleach and peroxide were mentioned, and they are probably
good. I have also heard that potassium permanganate is also effective,
but it might be harder to get a hold of.

Good luck,

Chris

All strong oxidizers. I think potassium permanganate, that former
favorite of chemistry sets for kids, is now discouraged as carcinogenic

Brian W

Wikipedia (I know, not always the best source) has this:

"Almost all applications of potassium permanganate exploit its
oxidizing properties.[2] As a strong oxidant that does not generate
toxic byproducts, KMnO4 has many niche uses."

and this:

"As an oxidant, potassium permanganate can act as a disinfectant. For
example, dilute solutions are used to treat canker sores (ulcers),
disinfectant for the hands and treatment for mild pompholyx,
dermatitis,[4][5] and fungal infections of the hands or feet.[6]
Potassium permanganate, obtainable at pool supply stores, is used in
rural areas to remove iron and hydrogen sulfide (rotten egg smell)
from well and waste water. Historically it was used to disinfect
drinking water.[7]"

Chris

Chris wrote:
On Nov 19, 7:04 am, brian whatcott wrote:
Chris wrote:
... FDA or CDC websites for more accurate
information. Bleach and peroxide were mentioned, and they are probably
good. I have also heard that potassium permanganate is also effective,
but it might be harder to get a hold of.
Good luck,
Chris
All strong oxidizers. I think potassium permanganate, that former
favorite of chemistry sets for kids, is now discouraged as carcinogenic

Brian W

Wikipedia (I know, not always the best source) has this:

"Almost all applications of potassium permanganate exploit its
oxidizing properties.[2] As a strong oxidant that does not generate
toxic byproducts, KMnO4 has many niche uses."

and this:

"As an oxidant, potassium permanganate can act as a disinfectant. For
example, dilute solutions are used to treat canker sores (ulcers),
disinfectant for the hands and treatment for mild pompholyx,
dermatitis,[4][5] and fungal infections of the hands or feet.[6]
Potassium permanganate, obtainable at pool supply stores, is used in
rural areas to remove iron and hydrogen sulfide (rotten egg smell)
from well and waste water. Historically it was used to disinfect
drinking water.[7]"

Chris

Here's the MSDS. Not a carcinogen, but harmful if inhaled as a powder.
http://www.jtbaker.com/msds/englishhtml/p6005.htm


Brian W

On Nov 19, 7:48 am, Gogarty wrote:
In article
,
says...

On Nov 13, 9:04 pm, Joe wrote:
On Nov 12, 9:43 am, Hanz wrote:

I have also heard that potassium permanganate is also effective,but it might be harder to get a hold of.

That's the word! That's the word! In college we used to make a glass
cleaning solution that consisted of potassium permanganate and sulfuric
acid. Wicked stuff, but your lab glassware got really, really clean.

I kind of doubt that. This from Wikipedia:

"Solid KMnO4 is a strong oxidizer and thus should be kept separated
from oxidizable substances. Reaction with concentrated sulfuric acid
produces the highly explosive manganese(VII) oxide (Mn2O7)."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Potassium_permanganate

Chris

On Wed, 25 Nov 2009 05:31:13 -0800 (PST), Chris
wrote:

On Nov 19, 7:48 am, Gogarty wrote:
In article
,
says...

On Nov 13, 9:04 pm, Joe wrote:
On Nov 12, 9:43 am, Hanz wrote:

I have also heard that potassium permanganate is also effective,but it might be harder to get a hold of.

That's the word! That's the word! In college we used to make a glass
cleaning solution that consisted of potassium permanganate and sulfuric
acid. Wicked stuff, but your lab glassware got really, really clean.

I kind of doubt that. This from Wikipedia:

"Solid KMnO4 is a strong oxidizer and thus should be kept separated
from oxidizable substances. Reaction with concentrated sulfuric acid
produces the highly explosive manganese(VII) oxide (Mn2O7)."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Potassium_permanganate

Chris

BUT, the glassware would be so clean..... why, you could hardly see
the pieces :-)

Cheers,

Bruce
(bruceinbangkokatgmaildotcom)