"Joe" wrote in message
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On Oct 5, 1:42 pm, "Capt. JG" wrote:
"Wayne.B" wrote in message

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On Mon, 5 Oct 2009 16:41:19 +0200, "Edgar"
wrote:

Anybody have diverters to suck the bilge on their engine and genset
water intakes?

--Vic

This facility is available on some small boat inlet strainers that I
have
seen but I think it is a bad idea as you do not want to put dirty bilge
water through your engine, as a modern engine has very small cooling
water
passages and any blockage there means big trouble..
Moreover, the capacity of an engine cooling pump is pretty small in
comparison with a decent bilge pump, which is another reason against
such
an
arrangement.
If you want to use the engine to pump your bilge, rig a belt driven high
capacity low head pump that will really shift some water.

I don't have that but know of others who do. The raw water pump on a
large engine will typically pump 30 to 40 gallons per minute or more.
Raw water circulation on large salt water engines is almost always
through a heat exchanger instead of the engine block. If the boat is
sinking you do what you have to do.

I have a Westerbeke 13. It uses raw water to the heat exchanger. I don't
think the 13 is considered a big engine. I've been thinking about making
this sort of connection. I believe I first heard about it in a mag.
article... SAIL or Cruising World.. can't remember. Seems like a good idea
for a last-resort situation.

If you don't have it and the boat sinks, the boat sinks. If you have it,
and
it works, the boat doesn't sink. If you have it, and it clogs up the
engine,
which then quits, the boat sinks, but you might buy yourself some time.

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Your asking for problems jon. You will be more likely to loose an
engine than ever use the system. Y valves fail, plumbing leaks, ect..
overheated engine .. Just have a proper pump and a backup for the
pump. I've never seen any commerical boat set up with a diverter
system. If it were a good ideal they would be on every work boat.


I have bronze seacocks that until recently hadn't been serviced in over 10
years. They worked perfectly. If I were going to do this, I would use
quality parts. I've never had a leak in any hose or connection, and I
inspect the critical ones regularly. I have main bilge and backup pumps. I
haven't made any decisions about doing this so far. I consider doing lots of
things to the boat but I probably do only 10 percent of them, being fairly
cautious about making changes.

Thanks for the advice/comments though... do appreciate it.


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On Tue, 6 Oct 2009 09:49:11 -0700, "Capt. JG"
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I have bronze seacocks that until recently hadn't been serviced in over 10
years. They worked perfectly. If I were going to do this, I would use
quality parts. I've never had a leak in any hose or connection, and I
inspect the critical ones regularly. I have main bilge and backup pumps. I
haven't made any decisions about doing this so far. I consider doing lots of
things to the boat but I probably do only 10 percent of them, being fairly
cautious about making changes.

Just to add some perspective to taking on water, and why boats sink,
this might be useful. Boat U.S. claims report.

http://www.boatus.com/seaworthy/sinking/default.asp

Sinkings due to holing are a small percent.
I really do like the idea of a bilge alarm, and would put one in a
hidden bilge.

--Vic

"Vic Smith" wrote in message
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On Tue, 6 Oct 2009 09:49:11 -0700, "Capt. JG"
wrote:



I have bronze seacocks that until recently hadn't been serviced in over 10
years. They worked perfectly. If I were going to do this, I would use
quality parts. I've never had a leak in any hose or connection, and I
inspect the critical ones regularly. I have main bilge and backup pumps. I
haven't made any decisions about doing this so far. I consider doing lots
of
things to the boat but I probably do only 10 percent of them, being fairly
cautious about making changes.

Just to add some perspective to taking on water, and why boats sink,
this might be useful. Boat U.S. claims report.

http://www.boatus.com/seaworthy/sinking/default.asp

Sinkings due to holing are a small percent.
I really do like the idea of a bilge alarm, and would put one in a
hidden bilge.

--Vic


Yup... I recently installed a bilge alarm... obnoxious sound. No way to miss
it even in the cockpit.

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