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On Oct 5, 12:01*am, Mark Borgerson wrote:
In article s.com, says... "thunder" wrote in message et... On Sun, 04 Oct 2009 12:36:52 -0400, Wilbur Hubbard wrote: If you can feel and hear an earthquake on land it generally means it is probably within a couple hundred miles of you. (in this case it was about 150 miles away). Intelligence also means you know the typical tsunami travels about fifty miles per hour. I don't think that's accurate. *Depending on the depth, a tsunami can travel @600 MPH. *As the water gets shallower, the wave slows down. Perhaps you meant, 50 MPH when the wave had crested in the harbor. Wave speed is computed from the square root of the quantity water depth times the acceleration of gravity. The speed at which tsunamis travel depends on the ocean depth. A tsunami can exceed 500 mph in 15,000 feet of water but slows to 40 mph or less in 100 feet of water. In less than 24 hours a tsunami can cross the entire Pacific Ocean. Different types of tsunamis can definitely travel at different speeds depending on how they originate. The tsunami that struck American Samoa was caused by a shift in a fault line directly below the origin. This causes a slower wave train than if, for example, the side of a volcano sloughed off violently into the ocean. In this case the wave is hastened by the original push. I think the water around American Samoa atoll is quite shallow so it slows down the speed quite nicely. But, the point of origin is quite deep so that would have sped it up. But, you are right. I did underestimate the time factor. I should have called it an hour instead of three - still plenty of time for those losers to get out of there. From several reports that I've read, the first large waves struck American Samoa 15 to 20 minutes after the earthquake. *The epicenter was about *120 miles from Pago Pago, so that means a speed of advance of about 360 to 480mph. The average water depth between *American Samoa and the earthquake epicenter is about 13 to 15,000 feet. *The water shallows to less than 3000 just a few miles offshore. *With that depth, I would expect the wave to move near the theoretical maximum speed---which was apparently the case. Mark Borgerson- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Nealbur is not to swift. He even forgot to give credit to yahoo for his explaination of wave speed. http://answers.yahoo.com/question/in...7020633AAvYabf Just like his sailing skills he gets all his knowledge from others on the internet and says it's his own. Joe |
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On Oct 5, 6:56 am, Joe wrote:
On Oct 5, 12:01 am, Mark Borgerson wrote: In article s.com, says... "thunder" wrote in message et... On Sun, 04 Oct 2009 12:36:52 -0400, Wilbur Hubbard wrote: If you can feel and hear an earthquake on land it generally means it is probably within a couple hundred miles of you. (in this case it was about 150 miles away). Intelligence also means you know the typical tsunami travels about fifty miles per hour. I don't think that's accurate. Depending on the depth, a tsunami can travel @600 MPH. As the water gets shallower, the wave slows down. Perhaps you meant, 50 MPH when the wave had crested in the harbor. Wave speed is computed from the square root of the quantity water depth times the acceleration of gravity. The speed at which tsunamis travel depends on the ocean depth. A tsunami can exceed 500 mph in 15,000 feet of water but slows to 40 mph or less in 100 feet of water. In less than 24 hours a tsunami can cross the entire Pacific Ocean. Different types of tsunamis can definitely travel at different speeds depending on how they originate. The tsunami that struck American Samoa was caused by a shift in a fault line directly below the origin. This causes a slower wave train than if, for example, the side of a volcano sloughed off violently into the ocean. In this case the wave is hastened by the original push. I think the water around American Samoa atoll is quite shallow so it slows down the speed quite nicely. But, the point of origin is quite deep so that would have sped it up. But, you are right. I did underestimate the time factor. I should have called it an hour instead of three - still plenty of time for those losers to get out of there. From several reports that I've read, the first large waves struck American Samoa 15 to 20 minutes after the earthquake. The epicenter was about 120 miles from Pago Pago, so that means a speed of advance of about 360 to 480mph. The average water depth between American Samoa and the earthquake epicenter is about 13 to 15,000 feet. The water shallows to less than 3000 just a few miles offshore. With that depth, I would expect the wave to move near the theoretical maximum speed---which was apparently the case. Mark Borgerson- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Nealbur is not to swift. He even forgot to give credit to yahoo for his explaination of wave speed.http://answers.yahoo.com/question/in...7020633AAvYabf Just like his sailing skills he gets all his knowledge from others on the internet and says it's his own. Joe Good catch! Well, at least he learned something. The internet's great. Want the right answer? Post a wrong one. Tom |
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