Poor Skippy, aground again.
 

This time it appears he ran afoul of Lily Bank much of which is awash at low
tide.

See his spot for details. Put it on hybrid view.

http://share.findmespot.com/shared/f...PLcZGvSb3n Me


Wilbur Hubbard

Poor Skippy, aground again.
 

On Sep 28, 3:10*pm, "Gregory Hall"

Signed his post.

Wilbur Hubbard

Don't forget to check which account you are using before signing your
posts.

Looks like they are exploring to me. The movements are too large to
be SPOT fix drift if they were aground.

--
Roger Long

Poor Skippy, aground again.
 

"Roger Long" wrote in message
...
On Sep 28, 3:10 pm, "Gregory Hall"

Signed his post.

Wilbur Hubbard

Don't forget to check which account you are using before signing your
posts.

Looks like they are exploring to me. The movements are too large to
be SPOT fix drift if they were aground.

--
Roger Long


I think Greg, who likes to spoof me, is right. Looks like they ran aground,
got off and probably ran aground again and again.


I think they are trying to work they way out of the shoals which are quite
extensive and not charted accurately as they are always shifting around.

Wilbur Hubbard

Poor Skippy, aground again.
 

On Mon, 28 Sep 2009 12:49:02 -0700 (PDT), Roger Long
wrote:

On Sep 28, 3:10*pm, "Gregory Hall"

Signed his post.

Wilbur Hubbard

Don't forget to check which account you are using before signing your
posts.

Looks like they are exploring to me. The movements are too large to
be SPOT fix drift if they were aground.

If there's anything Gregory Hall/Wilbur Hubbard knows about, it's
being on the hard.

He used to get wet once a year by taking a bath, but I think he even
stopped doing that.

Poor Skippy, aground again.
 

"Gregory Hall" wrote in message
...
This time it appears he ran afoul of Lily Bank much of which is awash at
low tide.

See his spot for details. Put it on hybrid view.

http://share.findmespot.com/shared/f...PLcZGvSb3n Me


Wilbur Hubbard




Looks like he's STILL stuck. Probably has to wait out the tide hoping to
float back off. Might have to wait 24 hours if he went aground on the higher
high tide and, as the springs were at maximum about a week ago, tide range
is still close to maximum.

Wilbur Hubbard

Poor Skippy, aground again.
 

On Mon, 28 Sep 2009 18:53:06 -0400, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote:

"Gregory Hall" wrote in message
...
This time it appears he ran afoul of Lily Bank much of which is awash at
low tide.

See his spot for details. Put it on hybrid view.

http://share.findmespot.com/shared/f...PLcZGvSb3n Me


Wilbur Hubbard




Looks like he's STILL stuck. Probably has to wait out the tide hoping to
float back off. Might have to wait 24 hours if he went aground on the higher
high tide and, as the springs were at maximum about a week ago, tide range
is still close to maximum.

Wilbur Hubbard


His last reported position is 27-06.49N, 78-36.32W as of 10 hours ago.
My charts show 14 to 19 ft of water in that area and no navigational
hazards of any kind.

http://img198.imageshack.us/img198/5...igposition.jpg

I think something else is going on but it's not clear what. My first
thought was that they'd anchored out on the banks to get some rest but
if so they should have been underway again by mid-day at the latest.
It's also possible that they forgot to reset their SPOT device and it
timed out or ran out of battery power.

Poor Skippy, aground again.
 

On Sep 28, 7:57*pm, Wayne.B wrote:
On Mon, 28 Sep 2009 18:53:06 -0400, "Wilbur Hubbard"



wrote:
"Gregory Hall" wrote in message
...
This time it appears he ran afoul of Lily Bank much of which is awash at
low tide.

See his spot for details. Put it on hybrid view.

http://share.findmespot.com/shared/f...glId=0sKGa9AJR....

Wilbur Hubbard

Looks like he's STILL stuck. Probably has to wait out the tide hoping to
float back off. Might have to wait 24 hours if he went aground on the higher
high tide and, as the springs were at maximum about a week ago, tide range
is still close to maximum.

Wilbur Hubbard

His last reported position is 27-06.49N, 78-36.32W as of 10 hours ago.
My charts show 14 to 19 ft of water in that area and no navigational
hazards of any kind. *

http://img198.imageshack.us/img198/5...igposition.jpg

I think something else is going on but it's not clear what. * My first
thought was that they'd anchored out on the banks to get some rest but
if so they should have been underway again by mid-day at the latest.
It's also possible that they forgot to reset their SPOT device and it
timed out or ran out of battery power.

Well, if you dont run aground a lot, you are not trying hard enough to
have fun.

Poor Skippy, aground again.
 

On Sep 28, 7:57*pm, Wayne.B wrote:

I think something else is going on but it's not clear what. * My first
thought was that they'd anchored out on the banks to get some rest but
if so they should have been underway again by mid-day at the latest.
It's also possible that they forgot to reset their SPOT device and it
timed out or ran out of battery power.

The SPOT runs for a very long time on batteries, much longer than
claimed in the instructions. However, tracking has to be restarted
every 24 hours which I've forgotten to do on some long trips.

I am a bit concerned myself though about the track prior to SPOT going
off. It's too larger to be just fix imprecision. It looks like a
search or random drifting to me.

They are probably OK because, unless there were a fire or sudden
flooding, I'm sure they would have pressed the "Help" or 911 button.
The keep the SPOT on the cabin top inside the dodger. Even if they
had to suddenly evacuate into the dinghy, they could have grabbed it.
If there was some problem during all that random motion, I'm sure
pushing the button to summon help would have occured to them.

--
Roger Long

Poor Skippy, aground again.
 

On Mon, 28 Sep 2009 18:53:06 -0400, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote:

springs were at maximum about a week ago, tide range
is still close to maximum.

One week is the interval between max and min, when it comes to tides.
Just what exactly are you refering to?

Casady

Poor Skippy, aground again.
 

On Tue, 29 Sep 2009 04:20:51 -0700 (PDT), Roger Long
wrote:

They are probably OK because, unless there were a fire or sudden
flooding, I'm sure they would have pressed the "Help" or 911 button.

FP's SPOT device is back on the air as of 13 minutes ago. They have
made progress down towards Spanish Cay. Meanwhile our taxpayer
dollars have been funding a search party with a Falcon jet for some
number of hours. Out, out damned SPOT... I own one but am
beginning to think it might be a hazzard. It will be interesting to
hear the explanation, hope everyone's OK.

Poor Skippy, aground again.
 

On Sep 29, 9:39*am, Wayne.B wrote:

Meanwhile our taxpayer
dollars have been funding a search party with a Falcon jet for some
number of hours. * Out, out damned SPOT... * *I own one but am
beginning to think it might be a hazzard. * It will be interesting to
hear the explanation, hope everyone's OK.

I'm very careful to tell all friends and family when distributing my
cruise plans and the SPOT link that they are NOT to worry or do
anything if the tracking stops. I tell them it's subject to outages
and forgetting to reset and tracking should be considered for fun only
and possibly helpful for route history in case a distress message is
sent out.

I think the Coast Guard jumped the gun on this search but they are
always trying to get airtime moved from the "training" column in the
budget to the "SAR" column so they were probably glad to go.

I'm very impressed with the SPOT unit after using it consistently for
two seasons. Like any other piece of equipment, it has to be used
properly. My preprogramed "Help" message includes a link to a web
page that includes everything SAR authorities might need to know and
complete instructions to receipients on what to do if they get a
message.

If I were going far offshore, I would also carry a standard EPIRB that
would automatically activate. My drill if I have to suddenly evacuate
due to catastrophic hull breach or fire is to grab the SPOT adn
portable VHF on the shelf next to the companionway and hit the red DSC
button on the main radio as I exit. SPOT would then be activated
from the dinghy. USCG is pretty apt to act quickly if they get a DSC
call including my GPS location and shortly after get a call from the
SPOT response center with the same location.

The think I like most about SPOT, next to the tracking, is the ability
to have friends or family privately send help such as SeaTow or a
local harbormaster instead of mobilizing the full resources of the
Coast Guard. There could be many situations in which this would be
more appropriate such as medical emergency or mechanical breakdown.

I also take it when I go ashore on remote islands now. I didn't
during the incident in May and it could have saved our butts. The
SPOT response center doesn't think in marine only terms so they will
respond just as quickly to an alert from the middle of an island or
city somewhere as from an on water location. It now goes in my pocket
for all island hiking expeditions.

--
Roger Long

Poor Skippy, aground again.
 

Roger Long wrote:
On Sep 29, 9:39 am, Wayne.B wrote:

Meanwhile our taxpayer
dollars have been funding a search party with a Falcon jet for some
number of hours. Out, out damned SPOT... I own one but am
beginning to think it might be a hazzard. It will be interesting to
hear the explanation, hope everyone's OK.

I'm very careful to tell all friends and family when distributing my
cruise plans and the SPOT link that they are NOT to worry or do
anything if the tracking stops. I tell them it's subject to outages
and forgetting to reset and tracking should be considered for fun only
and possibly helpful for route history in case a distress message is
sent out.

I think the Coast Guard jumped the gun on this search but they are
always trying to get airtime moved from the "training" column in the
budget to the "SAR" column so they were probably glad to go.

I'm very impressed with the SPOT unit after using it consistently for
two seasons. Like any other piece of equipment, it has to be used
properly. My preprogramed "Help" message includes a link to a web
page that includes everything SAR authorities might need to know and
complete instructions to receipients on what to do if they get a
message.

If I were going far offshore, I would also carry a standard EPIRB that
would automatically activate. My drill if I have to suddenly evacuate
due to catastrophic hull breach or fire is to grab the SPOT adn
portable VHF on the shelf next to the companionway and hit the red DSC
button on the main radio as I exit. SPOT would then be activated
from the dinghy. USCG is pretty apt to act quickly if they get a DSC
call including my GPS location and shortly after get a call from the
SPOT response center with the same location.

The think I like most about SPOT, next to the tracking, is the ability
to have friends or family privately send help such as SeaTow or a
local harbormaster instead of mobilizing the full resources of the
Coast Guard. There could be many situations in which this would be
more appropriate such as medical emergency or mechanical breakdown.

I also take it when I go ashore on remote islands now. I didn't
during the incident in May and it could have saved our butts. The
SPOT response center doesn't think in marine only terms so they will
respond just as quickly to an alert from the middle of an island or
city somewhere as from an on water location. It now goes in my pocket
for all island hiking expeditions.

--
Roger Long

It is fairly fundamental that one understands the difference between
"force" and "baked beans" or "energy".

Poor Skippy, aground again.
 

Goofball_star_dot_etal wrote:

It is fairly fundamental that one understands the difference between
"force" and "baked beans" or "energy".

...or one thread and another..

Poor Skippy, aground again.
 

On Tue, 29 Sep 2009 07:20:05 -0700 (PDT), Roger Long
wrote:

I also take it when I go ashore on remote islands now. I didn't
during the incident in May and it could have saved our butts. The
SPOT response center doesn't think in marine only terms so they will
respond just as quickly to an alert from the middle of an island or
city somewhere as from an on water location. It now goes in my pocket
for all island hiking expeditions.

Other then allowing friends and relatives to track your cruise, it
think the biggest value for the SPOT is exactly as you describe: In
the dinghy or remote hiking. I have a registered EPIRB but would
never take it in the dinghy under normal circumstances because it is
too bulky, too expensive and has too much risk of accidental
activation. An EPIRB also triggers a full SAR effort when it is
activated which is not always appropriate as you point out.

On the other hand there is very real risk of getting into trouble with
the dinghy when operating in remote areas. It has happened to others
when engines have failed at inopportune times, and wind or current has
prevented rowing back to the mother ship. It is also important to
carry a decent anchor and rode in the dinghy for the same reason.

Poor Skippy, aground again. Coast Guard search called off . . .
 

"Wayne.B" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 29 Sep 2009 04:20:51 -0700 (PDT), Roger Long
wrote:

They are probably OK because, unless there were a fire or sudden
flooding, I'm sure they would have pressed the "Help" or 911 button.

FP's SPOT device is back on the air as of 13 minutes ago. They have
made progress down towards Spanish Cay. Meanwhile our taxpayer
dollars have been funding a search party with a Falcon jet for some
number of hours. Out, out damned SPOT... I own one but am
beginning to think it might be a hazzard. It will be interesting to
hear the explanation, hope everyone's OK.




I just heard on local AM radio, 610 WIOD, that the Coast Guard has called
off the search for Flying Pig because they found it safely anchored off
Abaco Island.

I wonder who called the Coast Guard?

Wilbur Hubbard

Poor Skippy, aground again.
 

"Richard Casady" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 28 Sep 2009 18:53:06 -0400, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote:

springs were at maximum about a week ago, tide range
is still close to maximum.

One week is the interval between max and min, when it comes to tides.
Just what exactly are you refering to?

Casady



There was an unusually high series of springs a week or two ago due to the
Moon being at perigee and in line with the Sun on the Sun side of the Earth.
High highs were extreme and up to two feet above normal tidal range. Not a
good time to run aground.

Wilbur Hubbard

Poor Skippy, aground again.
 

On Tue, 29 Sep 2009 10:48:47 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote this crap:

Other then allowing friends and relatives to track your cruise, it
think the biggest value for the SPOT is exactly as you describe: In
the dinghy or remote hiking. I have a registered EPIRB but would
never take it in the dinghy under normal circumstances because it is
too bulky, too expensive

Really? mine is barely bigger than a cell phone and costs nothing to
use. Somebody is ripping you off.

Vote for Palin-Ahhhnold in 2012.





I'm Horvath and I approve of this post.

Poor Skippy, aground again.
 

"Bloody Horvath" wrote in message
...

Really? mine is barely bigger than a cell phone and costs nothing to
use.

So, your stripper girlfriend gives it up for free but I wouldn't go around
bragging how poorly hung you are.

--
Gregory Hall

Poor Skippy, aground again.
 

SKip and his "concerned friends" should be
ashamed......................

I think he is better suited for a star roll in Whale Wars, another
ship of fools who desrve each other.

Bob.

Poor Skippy, aground again.
 

"Bob" wrote in message
...
SKip and his "concerned friends" should be
ashamed......................

I think he is better suited for a star roll in Whale Wars, another
ship of fools who desrve each other.

Bob.



I tried to tell poor Skippy, time and time again, to forego most of the way
too many electrical gadgets he seems addicted to because they end up causing
more trouble than they are worth but will he listen to reason? Nope! This
latest debacle is just more proof of the validity of my words.

And, have I also not cautioned against 'sailing by committee?' It appears
Skippy did not listen with respect to this sound advice either. Apparently,
some committee member called the Coast Guard totally unnecessarily. Sad.

Wilbur Hubbard


Wilbur Hubbard

Poor Skippy, aground again.
 

wrote in message
...
On Wed, 30 Sep 2009 08:56:18 -0400, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote:

"Bob" wrote in message
...
SKip and his "concerned friends" should be
ashamed......................

I think he is better suited for a star roll in Whale Wars, another
ship of fools who desrve each other.

Bob.




I tried to tell poor Skippy, time and time again,


What are you? The sailing committee chairman?



I happen to be perhaps the most knowledgeable sailor in these groups. I know
of which I speak. I am also pretty much of a traditionalist and I don't
believe in EPIRBS and rescue services funded by taxpayers. I believe you go
to sea at your own risk. To risk the lives of others because you need rescue
because of your incompetence should be a criminal offense.

I also don't believe in yellow stripes down a so-called sailor's back ala
the Red Cloud disgraced crew who, when they become a little frightened by
some small adverse condition, blubbered for help like a baby crying for its
mother.

I don't believe in involving half the world in one's voyaging like that
Zac's publicity hound parents. I loathe parents who live vicariously through
their brats.

I don't believe in incompetent and weak females pulling similar publicity
stunts.

I don't believe in sissy racers who carry electronics required by the race
organizers so hugely expensive open ocean rescues can be commenced for every
little mishap.

I don't believe in meathead, stay-at-home-dad morons operating a floating
day care center replete with chubby, pale and out of work has been models
claiming it's sailing.

I don't believe in some losers working on an old wooden boat for twenty
years and never sailing it anywhere calling themselves sailors.

I can't abide dangerous multi-hulls that capsize in rough seas because of
their innate design flaws that confer greater stability upside-down than
right-side up.

What all this amounts to is I can't stand how a bunch of brain dead liberal
cretins put to sea calling themselves sailors while all they really
accomplish is giving us real sailors a bad name by virtue of how they are a
bunch of whining, wimping, pansy sissies who couldn't finish without outside
assistance what they started to save their worthless lives.

Wilbur Hubbard

Poor Skippy, aground again.
 

Wilbur Hubbard wrote:

[snip usually idiotic drivel]

Translation: Skip is out there doing what I can barely dream about and
I'm damned jealous.

Cheers
Martin

Poor Skippy, aground again.
 

On Wed, 30 Sep 2009 13:05:45 -0400, Moi wrote:

Wilbur Hubbard wrote:

[snip usually idiotic drivel]

Translation: Skip is out there doing what I can barely dream about and
I'm damned jealous.

Cheers
Martin

Apparently Wilbur hasn't yet realized that Skip, albeit with all his
problems, is now light years more experienced then Wilbur will ever
be. Skip has actually sailed somewhere and back while Wilbur has not.

Unfortunately for Wilbur, reading sailing magazines does not count for
experience.

Cheers,

Bruce
(bruceinbangkokatgmaildotcom)

Poor Skippy, aground again.
 

"Bruce In Bangkok" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 30 Sep 2009 13:05:45 -0400, Moi wrote:

Wilbur Hubbard wrote:

[snip usually idiotic drivel]

Translation: Skip is out there doing what I can barely dream about and
I'm damned jealous.

Cheers
Martin

Apparently Wilbur hasn't yet realized that Skip, albeit with all his
problems, is now light years more experienced then Wilbur will ever
be. Skip has actually sailed somewhere and back while Wilbur has not.

Unfortunately for Wilbur, reading sailing magazines does not count for
experience.

Cheers,

Bruce
(bruceinbangkokatgmaildotcom)

Now, Bruce,

You'll recall Aragorn's post of a while ago. Whether it's Neal or his
boyfriend, there was a lot of sailing in Wilbur's past. His detailed
knowledge of the Bahamas has been useful to me. Just now, we're
experiencing the mosquitos he warned about before we were to leave, nearly 6
months ago, now, before all the repairs/refit stuff we did.

While he was mistaken about our demise on a shoal, we WERE in the area, but
since I was driving :{)) we weren't anywhere near shallow. We anchored in 20
feet of water that night, I got up at a reasonable hour for having retired
at 4, and continued.

I look forward to his recommendations as we move further south. Right now,
we elected to stay at Powell - a bit too close to shore, anchoring in about
9 feet of water, occasioned by my diving the bottom of the keel which had
grown a small menagerie of calcium-based life-forms sitting in the mud at
the dock in St. Simons for those 4 months, and cleaning off the depth
sounders, groundplane and keel cooler bronzes as well, while the ladies went
and explored the magical beach on the other side - and have a few skeeters.
Citronella candles kept them at bay as the girls watched the Hobbit on one
of the electronic sets Wilbur decries :{))

Tomorrow we'll head over to Cooperstown, and then start moving south toward
Marsh Harbor where the girls will get off in about 10 days, and a couple of
weeks later my son and wife will join us. I'd enjoy (under separate thread
heading, please!) recommendations for beachcombing, snorkeling, fishing
(somehow I got a speargun permit!!) and conching between here and there...

L8R, y'all

--
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SV Flying Pig KI4MPC
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Poor Skippy, aground again.
 

"Flying Pig" wrote in message
...
"Bruce In Bangkok" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 30 Sep 2009 13:05:45 -0400, Moi wrote:

Wilbur Hubbard wrote:

[snip usually idiotic drivel]

Translation: Skip is out there doing what I can barely dream about and
I'm damned jealous.

Cheers
Martin

Apparently Wilbur hasn't yet realized that Skip, albeit with all his
problems, is now light years more experienced then Wilbur will ever
be. Skip has actually sailed somewhere and back while Wilbur has not.

Unfortunately for Wilbur, reading sailing magazines does not count for
experience.

Cheers,

Bruce
(bruceinbangkokatgmaildotcom)

Now, Bruce,

You'll recall Aragorn's post of a while ago. Whether it's Neal or his
boyfriend, there was a lot of sailing in Wilbur's past. His detailed
knowledge of the Bahamas has been useful to me. Just now, we're
experiencing the mosquitos he warned about before we were to leave, nearly
6 months ago, now, before all the repairs/refit stuff we did.

While he was mistaken about our demise on a shoal, we WERE in the area,
but since I was driving :{)) we weren't anywhere near shallow. We anchored
in 20 feet of water that night, I got up at a reasonable hour for having
retired at 4, and continued.

I look forward to his recommendations as we move further south. Right
now, we elected to stay at Powell - a bit too close to shore, anchoring in
about 9 feet of water, occasioned by my diving the bottom of the keel
which had grown a small menagerie of calcium-based life-forms sitting in
the mud at the dock in St. Simons for those 4 months, and cleaning off the
depth sounders, groundplane and keel cooler bronzes as well, while the
ladies went and explored the magical beach on the other side - and have a
few skeeters. Citronella candles kept them at bay as the girls watched the
Hobbit on one of the electronic sets Wilbur decries :{))

Tomorrow we'll head over to Cooperstown, and then start moving south
toward Marsh Harbor where the girls will get off in about 10 days, and a
couple of weeks later my son and wife will join us. I'd enjoy (under
separate thread heading, please!) recommendations for beachcombing,
snorkeling, fishing (somehow I got a speargun permit!!) and conching
between here and there...

L8R, y'all


It's good to hear you didn't get tangled up with Lily Shoal though you were
close and they do shift some. But being just giant sand washes they
generally don't do much harm should you run up on one. Most of them you can
just sail over at high water but the water is so clean you'd swear it's only
a couple feet deep.

Powell is nice, especially the beach on the ocean side. There is also a nice
beach ocean side on the north end of Powell and a path to it from the
bayside. Good beachcombing on the north beach as it is less frequented.
There is a pretty nice little cliff with a path up to it on the north
central part of the island at the outcrop on the bayside that affords a
great view of the anchorage.

Coopers Town isn't anything special and the anchorage is rough in prevailing
winds.

I would stop at Manjack Cay aka Nunjack Cay if you have the time. It used to
be uninhabited but with mowed off paths and building lots for sale but no
habitation yet. More great beaches on the ocean side with a path from
Nunjack Beach is nice on the Bayside for picnics. There used to be a dock
with enough water for me to tie up to it. You could probably make it to the
dock as well. I can anchor right off NunJack beach but you might have to
anchor outside the little reef that projects from the south that makes the
little NunJack Beach Harbor. Some cruisers feel their way around NunJack
Rocks and anchor in the little harbor on the north. It's a beautiful place
there.

South of that is Green Turtle Cay. The main anchorage is not too great as
there is lots of faster motorboat traffic going back and forth to the
mainland (Abaco Island). Anchoring in White Sound is more peaceful and Black
Sound is nice, too. I would definitely spend a day or two at Green Turtle
Cay poking around. New Plymouth is quaint and has all the amenities. I can
get my boat into Settlement Creek and New Plymouth harbor but it is small
and shallow. You might be able to get FP in there but I'd check it out with
the dinghy first if I were you.

From Green Turtle you will probably want to take FP on the outside route
around Whale Cay as the inside channel is quite shoal. In settled weather
the Whale Channel outside route is no problem. Don't do it in heavy weather,
though, as there can be a 'rage' which amounts to breaking waves in the
inlets. Once you transit Whale Cay you'll see Great Guana to the Southeast.
The north side of the island has Bakers Bay which used to be undeveloped and
contained the wreckage of an old cruise ship port and the channel was
dredged deep with a turning basin at the end for a cruise ship. When I was
there Bakers Bay was a cruisers anchorage with a path to the great beach on
the ocean side.

Further south you can anchor in Fisher's Bay north or Delia's Cay and dinghy
into the Guana Beach Resort where you can walk to the settlement which has a
nice little grocery store and you can walk across the island to Nippers to
have a frozen Nippers. You can't NOT visit Nippers as it is world famous.

Have fun.

Wilbur Hubbard

Bahamas info (was) Poor Skippy, aground again.
 

Thanks, Wilbur. More info than any of the guides have provided.

The girls enjoyed a nude beach experience on the main beach at Powell a
couple of days ago while I dove our keel (much encrusted from 4 months of
Saint Simons Island pluff) and transducers/keel cooler/groundplane. Perhaps
we'll go back today for the north beach what with the very small wind right
on our nose at the moment for Manjack and GTC.

We will spend a couple of days at GTC, especially as there's a sistership
moored there, owned by someone who was instrumental in our searching and
evaluation of the boat we passed on (High Time) and led us to revisit
Tehamana, the prior name for our boat. It had been docked literally across
the canal from High Time and I'd been aboard during our engine survey on HT.
It didn't show well, but my friend saw it in his boatyard in FTL, where the
owner, his maintenance guy, and the owner's daughter's boyfriend were doing
a three week touchup. Needless to say, it showed a great deal better after
that, as we bought it :{))

As an aside, I communicate with several "identities" aboard this list
privately; their info is entirely protected. I'd welcome such with you, as
the fun we have here aside, I'm sure you're a veritable font of info, and I
expect we'd enjoy each other, whether you ever come sail with us or not
:{)) - and I'd not do an Aragorn, either :{))

So, depending on what we can see with our wifi setup, we'll prolly be
checking in from time to time. The sked here is such that I've not been
able to touch the keyboard for my long-overdue logs since Saint Simons; once
the kids are off, I'll try to make that a priority.

You're right about Coop - nothing doing, but an enjoyable walk, and some
VERY nice pizzas - albeit carryout, something we'd not figured out until it
was presented to us on the porch - from the local who does that. Killer
connection here, too- 20 sites, including one each on Spanish and GTCs, all
but one open. Vonage has been humming as we made flight skeds, girlies
caught up with their parents, and I ordered some zipper parts. Don't always
have a sufficiently strong signal for that pleasure :{))

L8R

Skip and crew

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"Wilbur Hubbard" wrote in message
anews.com...

It's good to hear you didn't get tangled up with Lily Shoal though you
were close and they do shift some. But being just giant sand washes they
generally don't do much harm should you run up on one. Most of them you
can just sail over at high water but the water is so clean you'd swear
it's only a couple feet deep.

Powell is nice, especially the beach on the ocean side. There is also a
nice beach ocean side on the north end of Powell and a path to it from the
bayside. Good beachcombing on the north beach as it is less frequented.
There is a pretty nice little cliff with a path up to it on the north
central part of the island at the outcrop on the bayside that affords a
great view of the anchorage.

Coopers Town isn't anything special and the anchorage is rough in
prevailing winds.

I would stop at Manjack Cay aka Nunjack Cay if you have the time. It used
to be uninhabited but with mowed off paths and building lots for sale but
no habitation yet. More great beaches on the ocean side with a path from
Nunjack Beach is nice on the Bayside for picnics. There used to be a dock
with enough water for me to tie up to it. You could probably make it to
the dock as well. I can anchor right off NunJack beach but you might have
to anchor outside the little reef that projects from the south that makes
the little NunJack Beach Harbor. Some cruisers feel their way around
NunJack Rocks and anchor in the little harbor on the north. It's a
beautiful place there.

South of that is Green Turtle Cay. The main anchorage is not too great as
there is lots of faster motorboat traffic going back and forth to the
mainland (Abaco Island). Anchoring in White Sound is more peaceful and
Black Sound is nice, too. I would definitely spend a day or two at Green
Turtle Cay poking around. New Plymouth is quaint and has all the
amenities. I can get my boat into Settlement Creek and New Plymouth
harbor but it is small and shallow. You might be able to get FP in there
but I'd check it out with the dinghy first if I were you.

From Green Turtle you will probably want to take FP on the outside route
around Whale Cay as the inside channel is quite shoal. In settled weather
the Whale Channel outside route is no problem. Don't do it in heavy
weather, though, as there can be a 'rage' which amounts to breaking waves
in the inlets. Once you transit Whale Cay you'll see Great Guana to the
Southeast. The north side of the island has Bakers Bay which used to be
undeveloped and contained the wreckage of an old cruise ship port and the
channel was dredged deep with a turning basin at the end for a cruise
ship. When I was there Bakers Bay was a cruisers anchorage with a path to
the great beach on the ocean side.

Further south you can anchor in Fisher's Bay north or Delia's Cay and
dinghy into the Guana Beach Resort where you can walk to the settlement
which has a nice little grocery store and you can walk across the island
to Nippers to have a frozen Nippers. You can't NOT visit Nippers as it is
world famous.

Have fun.

Wilbur Hubbard