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Wilbur Hubbard August 14th 09 05:55 PM

Your Typical Beneteau!
 
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Rudder failure causes British couple to abandon sailboat.

Wilbur Hubbard



Wayne.B August 14th 09 06:13 PM

Your Typical Beneteau!
 
On Fri, 14 Aug 2009 12:55:38 -0400, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote:

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Rudder failure causes British couple to abandon sailboat.


Rudder and steering issues are certainly not unique to Beneteaus but
you know that right?


Adrian[_3_] August 14th 09 11:50 PM

Your Typical Beneteau!
 

"Wilbur Hubbard" wrote in message
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Rudder failure causes British couple to abandon sailboat.

Wilbur Hubbard


Glass, throw, houses, in, people, stones, shouldn't, stones...re-arrange to
suit.
At least they abandoned a damaged boat, unlike the muppets over the pond.

http://www.boatbuilding.net/article..../04/10/1123245



Dennis Pogson[_2_] August 15th 09 09:43 AM

Your Typical Beneteau!
 

"Wilbur Hubbard" wrote in message
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Rudder failure causes British couple to abandon sailboat.

Wilbur Hubbard

It happened to the Bismark too. Was she a Beneteau boat?


Dennis.


Duncan Heenan August 15th 09 11:25 AM

Your Typical Beneteau!
 
"Dennis Pogson" wrote in message
...

"Wilbur Hubbard" wrote in message
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Rudder failure causes British couple to abandon sailboat.

Wilbur Hubbard

It happened to the Bismark too. Was she a Beneteau boat?


Dennis.

I believe the Bismarck's rudder failure was arranged by the Royal Navy's
Fleet Air Arm and delivered by Fairey Swordfish.
--
Duncan Heenan


Derek Moody August 16th 09 12:18 AM

Your Typical Beneteau!
 
In article , Adrian
wrote:

"Wilbur Hubbard" wrote in message
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Rudder failure causes British couple to abandon sailboat.


Glass, throw, houses, in, people, stones, shouldn't, stones...re-arrange to
suit.


Which rather dodges the larger question. I have only once been aboard a
vessel that smashed her rudder and then she was small enough that we could
unship the remains* and get enough steering force from a towed bucket.

Now -if- you can break/saw/unbolt the offending article a jury rigged paddle
will probably get you by, together with streaming warps if things get lively,
but I've never really given it a thought as a likely hazard for an
ocean-crossing passage. Not too difficult if it's possible to use a dinghy
as a repair platform but when did trouble ever occur in a calm?

A hacksaw blade on a pole might be enough to cut away damage but only if you
can somehow get it into the right position...

What tricks do you lot have in reserve?

Cheerio,

* For unship read: crowbar out, bending the upper pin.

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Wayne.B August 16th 09 03:17 AM

Your Typical Beneteau!
 
On Sun, 16 Aug 2009 00:18:49 +0100, Derek Moody
wrote:

Now -if- you can break/saw/unbolt the offending article a jury rigged paddle
will probably get you by, together with streaming warps if things get lively,
but I've never really given it a thought as a likely hazard for an
ocean-crossing passage. Not too difficult if it's possible to use a dinghy
as a repair platform but when did trouble ever occur in a calm?

A hacksaw blade on a pole might be enough to cut away damage but only if you
can somehow get it into the right position...

What tricks do you lot have in reserve?


Boats entering the Newport-Bermuda Race must be able to demonstrate a
workable emergency rudder/tiller that meets with the satisfaction of
the safety inspection committee. A common strategy is to have a
cabin door that has been prepared for lashing to the spinnaker pole.
I wouldn't want to steer a 50 footer 300 miles that way but it could
probably be made to work.


Dennis Pogson[_2_] August 16th 09 09:58 AM

Your Typical Beneteau!
 

"Duncan Heenan" wrote in message
...
"Dennis Pogson" wrote in message
...

"Wilbur Hubbard" wrote in message
anews.com...
http://www.ybw.com/auto/newsdesk/200...421ymnews.html

Rudder failure causes British couple to abandon sailboat.

Wilbur Hubbard

It happened to the Bismark too. Was she a Beneteau boat?


Dennis.

I believe the Bismarck's rudder failure was arranged by the Royal Navy's
Fleet Air Arm and delivered by Fairey Swordfish.
--
Duncan Heenan


I was being facetious, you are quite right, the old Fairey Swordfish marked
the end of the battleship era. I would have thought that would have been
obvious to the military boffins during WW1, but it took another 25 years to
prove the point.

Dennis.


Dennis Pogson[_2_] August 16th 09 10:01 AM

Your Typical Beneteau!
 

"Wayne.B" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 16 Aug 2009 00:18:49 +0100, Derek Moody
wrote:

Now -if- you can break/saw/unbolt the offending article a jury rigged
paddle
will probably get you by, together with streaming warps if things get
lively,
but I've never really given it a thought as a likely hazard for an
ocean-crossing passage. Not too difficult if it's possible to use a
dinghy
as a repair platform but when did trouble ever occur in a calm?

A hacksaw blade on a pole might be enough to cut away damage but only if
you
can somehow get it into the right position...

What tricks do you lot have in reserve?


Boats entering the Newport-Bermuda Race must be able to demonstrate a
workable emergency rudder/tiller that meets with the satisfaction of
the safety inspection committee. A common strategy is to have a
cabin door that has been prepared for lashing to the spinnaker pole.
I wouldn't want to steer a 50 footer 300 miles that way but it could
probably be made to work.


Not knowing the boat, it's difficult to imagine what would cause the rudder
to jam at full lock, but I would guess the cause to be internal, rather than
external.


Dennis.


Bloody Horvath August 16th 09 10:57 AM

Your Typical Beneteau!
 
On Sun, 16 Aug 2009 00:18:49 +0100, Derek Moody
wrote this crap:

Which rather dodges the larger question. I have only once been aboard a
vessel that smashed her rudder and then she was small enough that we could
unship the remains* and get enough steering force from a towed bucket.

Now -if- you can break/saw/unbolt the offending article a jury rigged paddle
will probably get you by, together with streaming warps if things get lively,
but I've never really given it a thought as a likely hazard for an
ocean-crossing passage. Not too difficult if it's possible to use a dinghy
as a repair platform but when did trouble ever occur in a calm?

A hacksaw blade on a pole might be enough to cut away damage but only if you
can somehow get it into the right position...

What tricks do you lot have in reserve?


I once broke the tiller.

We steered with the sails.

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I'm Horvath and I approve of this post.


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