Our local marina is hosting a Captain's License course (six pack)
next month.

Other than being able to charge passengers for passage, what
would be a good reason to have a captains ticket.

Also?
What's the legal down side?

"cavelamb" wrote in message
m...
Our local marina is hosting a Captain's License course (six pack)
next month.

Other than being able to charge passengers for passage, what
would be a good reason to have a captains ticket.

Also?
What's the legal down side?

Pro: You're bound to learn something worth knowing in preparing for the
test.

Con: What the Government giveth, the Government can taketh away. And being a
"Professional" carries an extra load of responsibility should the fan go
"splat!"

Alternative: Take the course, refuse the license.

--
KLC Lewis

Irrefutable photographic proof of alien visitations!
www.KLCLewisStudios.com

"KLC Lewis" wrote in message
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"cavelamb" wrote in message
m...
Our local marina is hosting a Captain's License course (six pack)
next month.

Other than being able to charge passengers for passage, what
would be a good reason to have a captains ticket.

Also?
What's the legal down side?

Pro: You're bound to learn something worth knowing in preparing for the
test.

Con: What the Government giveth, the Government can taketh away. And being
a "Professional" carries an extra load of responsibility should the fan go
"splat!"

Alternative: Take the course, refuse the license.

--
KLC Lewis

Irrefutable photographic proof of alien visitations!
www.KLCLewisStudios.com



This is basically correct.

Additional pros.. personal satisfaction, if you desire to teach through a
reputable program, you will almost certainly be required to have the minimum
license (OUPV = Six pack).

Additional con.. there are costs associated with getting a license, e.g.,
the TWIC card (~$135/5 yrs.) and CG licensing fees ($200 one-time, then a
renewal every 5 years of less than that), not to mention insurance cost
difference. Oh, and there's a diff in the legal alcohol limit.

https://twicprogram.tsa.dhs.gov/TWICWebApp/
http://www.uscg.mil/nmc/

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"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

On Jul 29, 7:01*pm, "Capt. JG" wrote:
"KLC Lewis" wrote in message

et...







"cavelamb" wrote in message
om...
Our local marina is hosting a Captain's License course (six pack)
next month.

Other than being able to charge passengers for passage, what
would be a good reason to have a captains ticket.

Also?
What's the legal down side?

Pro: You're bound to learn something worth knowing in preparing for the
test.

Con: What the Government giveth, the Government can taketh away. And being
a "Professional" carries an extra load of responsibility should the fan go
"splat!"

Alternative: Take the course, refuse the license.

--
KLC Lewis

Irrefutable photographic proof of alien visitations!
www.KLCLewisStudios.com

This is basically correct.

Additional pros.. personal satisfaction, if you desire to teach through a
reputable program, you will almost certainly be required to have the minimum
license (OUPV = Six pack).

Additional con.. there are costs associated with getting a license, e.g.,
the TWIC card (~$135/5 yrs.) and CG licensing fees ($200 one-time, then a
renewal every 5 years of less than that), not to mention insurance cost
difference. Oh, and there's a diff in the legal alcohol limit.


And dont for get the physical $100+
and the DOT drug test
and mmd now called a MMCredential optional but why not which will have
your Master/OICNW STCW. bla bla bla
and ....

"Bob" wrote in message
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On Jul 29, 7:01 pm, "Capt. JG" wrote:
"KLC Lewis" wrote in message

et...







"cavelamb" wrote in message
om...
Our local marina is hosting a Captain's License course (six pack)
next month.

Other than being able to charge passengers for passage, what
would be a good reason to have a captains ticket.

Also?
What's the legal down side?

Pro: You're bound to learn something worth knowing in preparing for the
test.

Con: What the Government giveth, the Government can taketh away. And
being
a "Professional" carries an extra load of responsibility should the fan
go
"splat!"

Alternative: Take the course, refuse the license.

--
KLC Lewis

Irrefutable photographic proof of alien visitations!
www.KLCLewisStudios.com

This is basically correct.

Additional pros.. personal satisfaction, if you desire to teach through a
reputable program, you will almost certainly be required to have the
minimum
license (OUPV = Six pack).

Additional con.. there are costs associated with getting a license, e.g.,
the TWIC card (~$135/5 yrs.) and CG licensing fees ($200 one-time, then a
renewal every 5 years of less than that), not to mention insurance cost
difference. Oh, and there's a diff in the legal alcohol limit.


And dont for get the physical $100+
and the DOT drug test
and mmd now called a MMCredential optional but why not which will have
your Master/OICNW STCW. bla bla bla
and ....

Typically, most health insurance programs cover an annual physical. (You
need a hearing and eye test also, btw.) The drug test is via an approved
facility or you can get a Maritime Consortium card if your employer offers
it (in that case no cost, since the employer pays). Of course, you're right.
For higher licenses there are higher costs.

Too bad about the "new" credential. I hadn't heard that. The good news is
that you get to keep your old license document to hang on the wall. The new
one will make it easier to carry the license with you (the original, not a
copy).



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"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

On Aug 12, 12:07*pm, "Capt. JG" wrote:
"Bob" wrote in message

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On Jul 29, 7:01 pm, "Capt. JG" wrote:





"KLC Lewis" wrote in message

news:H7SdnZNaeb2WeO3XnZ2dnUVZ_qidnZ2d@centurytel. net...

"cavelamb" wrote in message
om...
Our local marina is hosting a Captain's License course (six pack)
next month.

Other than being able to charge passengers for passage, what
would be a good reason to have a captains ticket.

Also?
What's the legal down side?

Pro: You're bound to learn something worth knowing in preparing for the
test.

Con: What the Government giveth, the Government can taketh away. And
being
a "Professional" carries an extra load of responsibility should the fan
go
"splat!"

Alternative: Take the course, refuse the license.

--
KLC Lewis

Irrefutable photographic proof of alien visitations!
www.KLCLewisStudios.com

This is basically correct.

Additional pros.. personal satisfaction, if you desire to teach through a
reputable program, you will almost certainly be required to have the
minimum
license (OUPV = Six pack).

Additional con.. there are costs associated with getting a license, e.g..,
the TWIC card (~$135/5 yrs.) and CG licensing fees ($200 one-time, then a
renewal every 5 years of less than that), not to mention insurance cost
difference. Oh, and there's a diff in the legal alcohol limit.

And dont for get the physical $100+
and the DOT drug test
and mmd now called a MMCredential optional but why not which will have
your Master/OICNW STCW. bla bla bla
and ....

Typically, most health insurance programs cover an annual physical. (You
need a hearing and eye test also, btw.) The drug test is via an approved
facility or you can get a Maritime Consortium card if your employer offers
it (in that case no cost, since the employer pays). Of course, you're right.
For higher licenses there are higher costs.

Too bad about the "new" credential. I hadn't heard that. The good news is
that you get to keep your old license document to hang on the wall. The new
one will make it easier to carry the license with you (the original, not a
copy).

"j" ganz


Ya, they look pretty cool.
Oh well..........
Bob

On Jul 29, 7:01*pm, "Capt. JG" wrote:
"KLC Lewis" wrote in message

et...







"cavelamb" wrote in message
om...
Our local marina is hosting a Captain's License course (six pack)
next month.

Other than being able to charge passengers for passage, what
would be a good reason to have a captains ticket.

Also?
What's the legal down side?

Pro: You're bound to learn something worth knowing in preparing for the
test.

Con: What the Government giveth, the Government can taketh away. And being
a "Professional" carries an extra load of responsibility should the fan go
"splat!"

Alternative: Take the course, refuse the license.

--
KLC Lewis

Irrefutable photographic proof of alien visitations!
www.KLCLewisStudios.com

This is basically correct.


Oh, and by the way you aint gonna get a fancy 25 grt Master license to
hang on your wall anymore........... its gone. Now all you get is the
Mercant Mariner's Credential..... a passport looking thingy.

cavelamb wrote:
Our local marina is hosting a Captain's License course (six pack)
next month.

Other than being able to charge passengers for passage, what
would be a good reason to have a captains ticket.

Also?
What's the legal down side?

I would take the course if one were offered near me just to gain the
information. Self study isn't always good enough because you don't know
what to study.

Legal: in theory, you will have more expertise than others so in some
instances you can't plead ignorance.

"slide" wrote in message
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cavelamb wrote:
Our local marina is hosting a Captain's License course (six pack)
next month.

Other than being able to charge passengers for passage, what
would be a good reason to have a captains ticket.

Also?
What's the legal down side?

I would take the course if one were offered near me just to gain the
information. Self study isn't always good enough because you don't know
what to study.

Legal: in theory, you will have more expertise than others so in some
instances you can't plead ignorance.


Self study is valuable, but taking the class would give a wider perspective
to the rules of the road, plotting, etc., than is gained otherwise, IMHO.

As far as legal goes, I would amend your statement to say in "most"
instances if you're the person in command.

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"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

slide wrote:
cavelamb wrote:
Our local marina is hosting a Captain's License course (six pack)
next month.

Other than being able to charge passengers for passage, what
would be a good reason to have a captains ticket.

Also?
What's the legal down side?

I would take the course if one were offered near me just to gain the
information. Self study isn't always good enough because you don't know
what to study.

Legal: in theory, you will have more expertise than others so in some
instances you can't plead ignorance.

No argument about that...

I started out with a Coast Guard ticket in the mid '70s while on
active duty in the Navy.

In the last year I've taken most of the ASA classes.
My next step with ASA is an instructor rating .

I was thinking about the 6pack course to get a Captains ticket,
but I don't really need it for what I'm doing.

It is not needed to teach through ASA.

Still considering it, but will probably pass this time.
Maybe some day though...


But I'm curious how many of our local experts have a Captains license?
Or even training from a school like ASA?


Richard