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Hard top dodger/bimini
Hey all
I'm designing a hard top dodger for my catamaran see http://www.psychosnail.com/blog/post...rd-Dodger.aspx Was wondering if any of you have experience working with Last-A-Foam as a core using hand lay up? Is this a good material for hand layup, any gotchas or recommendations? |
Hard top dodger/bimini
ryanonthebeach wrote:
Hey all I'm designing a hard top dodger for my catamaran see http://www.psychosnail.com/blog/post...rd-Dodger.aspx Was wondering if any of you have experience working with Last-A-Foam as a core using hand lay up? Is this a good material for hand layup, any gotchas or recommendations? http://www.generalplastics.com/appli...ail.php?aid=14 http://www.generalplastics.com/uploa...lications.pdf? A warning about solvent based and heat cured adhesives. Using Epoxy resins, should be fine. Expect it to be heavier than you expect! Richard |
Hard top dodger/bimini
On Jul 20, 1:43*pm, ryanonthebeach wrote:
Hey all I'm designing a hard top dodger for my catamaran see http://www.psychosnail.com/blog/post...mini-hard-Dodg... Was wondering if any of you have experience working with Last-A-Foam as a core using hand lay up? Is this a good material for hand layup, any gotchas or recommendations? I just built a hard top for my dodger using plywood and fiberglass. It worked OK, but now I think I would use aluminum and the Orgami method of bending it. Here is the website http://www.origamimagic.com/ to give you an idea of how it works. What it can do is take the shape from a curved aluminum brace and bend a sheet of 1/4" or what ever to the required bend. It used very simple techniques to do this and simple tools. Just a little welding and you could have a very slick top. This is what I am planning on doing on my next boat. Good luck with what ever you choose. I know the fiberglass work I did on my plywood top was a pain. Joel S/V Fat Tuesday |
Hard top dodger/bimini
ryanonthebeach wrote in
: Hey all I'm designing a hard top dodger for my catamaran see http://www.psychosnail.com/blog/post...ni-hard-Dodger .aspx Was wondering if any of you have experience working with Last-A-Foam as a core using hand lay up? Is this a good material for hand layup, any gotchas or recommendations? I had my soft dodger converted to a hard dodger by a friend of mine in FL. He used the original stainless for the soft dodger as the frame for the hard dodger. This was welded to keep it rigid. The top and the bottom are 1/8" fiberglass sheets and the interior is honeycomb. The whole assembly was Awlgripped to match the non-skid. We constantly get complements on the construction. However, Erik said that he would never build another one as it was a royal pain... -- Geoff www.GeoffSchultz.org |
Hard top dodger/bimini
On Jul 20, 4:20*pm, Joel Vannorsdel wrote:
On Jul 20, 1:43*pm, ryanonthebeach wrote: Hey all I'm designing a hard top dodger for my catamaran see http://www.psychosnail.com/blog/post...mini-hard-Dodg... Was wondering if any of you have experience working with Last-A-Foam as a core using hand lay up? Is this a good material for hand layup, any gotchas or recommendations? I just built a hard top for my dodger using plywood and fiberglass. It worked OK, but now I think I would use aluminum and the Orgami method of bending it. *Here is the websitehttp://www.origamimagic.com/ to give you an idea of how it works. *What it can do is take the shape from a curved aluminum brace and bend a sheet of 1/4" or what ever to the required bend. *It used very simple techniques to do this and simple tools. *Just a little welding and you could have a very slick top. *This is what I am planning on doing on my next boat. Good luck with what ever you choose. *I know the fiberglass work I did on my plywood top was a pain. Joel S/V Fat Tuesday Aluminum pretty, but to heavy |
Hard top dodger/bimini
On Jul 21, 4:00*am, Geoff Schultz wrote:
ryanonthebeach wrote : Hey all I'm designing a hard top dodger for my catamaran see http://www.psychosnail.com/blog/post...ni-hard-Dodger .aspx Was wondering if any of you have experience working with Last-A-Foam as a core using hand lay up? Is this a good material for hand layup, any gotchas or recommendations? I had my soft dodger converted to a hard dodger by a friend of mine in FL.. * He used the original stainless for the soft dodger as the frame for the hard dodger. *This was welded to keep it rigid. *The top and the bottom are 1/8" fiberglass sheets and the interior is honeycomb. *The whole assembly was Awlgripped to match the non-skid. *We constantly get complements on the construction. *However, Erik said that he would never build another one as it was a royal pain... -- Geoffwww.GeoffSchultz.org Thanks for the info Geoff That's an interesting idea using the original frame. I would have given that serious consideration except that part of the reason I'm replacing the original is because the supports are all in the wrong places. Makes it difficult to get in and out. so i would have to do a number of modifications, plus I'm not sure it'll be strong enough for the four 120w solar panels. |
Hard top dodger/bimini
"Geoff Schultz" wrote in message
.. . ryanonthebeach wrote in : Hey all I'm designing a hard top dodger for my catamaran see http://www.psychosnail.com/blog/post...ni-hard-Dodger .aspx Was wondering if any of you have experience working with Last-A-Foam as a core using hand lay up? Is this a good material for hand layup, any gotchas or recommendations? I had my soft dodger converted to a hard dodger by a friend of mine in FL. He used the original stainless for the soft dodger as the frame for the hard dodger. This was welded to keep it rigid. The top and the bottom are 1/8" fiberglass sheets and the interior is honeycomb. The whole assembly was Awlgripped to match the non-skid. We constantly get complements on the construction. However, Erik said that he would never build another one as it was a royal pain... -- Geoff www.GeoffSchultz.org Geoff, Is this picture of the hard dodger? It looks really nice. My dodger fabric is just about shot, and I've been thinking about replacing it, but then I saw your post, and I was thinking this might be a better, longer-lasting solution. I have a friend who can do the welding. Where did you get the fiberglass sheets? Do you have any drawings, plans, or any other pics I might look at (of the construction or just finished pictures)? This would be a winter project, since I and students prefer something to hide behind in the summer. http://www.geoffschultz.org/BlueJack...121_095647.htm -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com |
Hard top dodger/bimini
"Capt. JG" wrote: Where did you get the fiberglass sheets? Get a hold of DMC in San Diego. DB170 (17 OZ, +\-45 double bias) glass (No Mat required) is sold by the yard from a 50" wide roll. They sell Divinycell, laminating epoxy and glass. Ask for Rich. Lew |
Hard top dodger/bimini
"Lew Hodgett" wrote in message
... "Capt. JG" wrote: Where did you get the fiberglass sheets? Get a hold of DMC in San Diego. DB170 (17 OZ, +\-45 double bias) glass (No Mat required) is sold by the yard from a 50" wide roll. They sell Divinycell, laminating epoxy and glass. Ask for Rich. Lew Thanks... appreciate it! -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com |
Hard top dodger/bimini
"Lew Hodgett" wrote in message
... "Capt. JG" wrote: Where did you get the fiberglass sheets? Get a hold of DMC in San Diego. DB170 (17 OZ, +\-45 double bias) glass (No Mat required) is sold by the yard from a 50" wide roll. They sell Divinycell, laminating epoxy and glass. Ask for Rich. Lew Lew... do you have a phone number or address for them... can't seem to find them. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com |
Hard top dodger/bimini
"Capt. JG" wrote:
Lew... do you have a phone number or address for them... can't seem to find them. 1-800-245-3053 Lew |
Hard top dodger/bimini
"Lew Hodgett" wrote in message
... "Capt. JG" wrote: Lew... do you have a phone number or address for them... can't seem to find them. 1-800-245-3053 Lew Thanks! -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com |
Hard top dodger/bimini
"Capt. JG" wrote in
: "Geoff Schultz" wrote in message .. . ryanonthebeach wrote in : Hey all I'm designing a hard top dodger for my catamaran see http://www.psychosnail.com/blog/post...mini-hard-Dodg er .aspx Was wondering if any of you have experience working with Last-A-Foam as a core using hand lay up? Is this a good material for hand layup, any gotchas or recommendations? I had my soft dodger converted to a hard dodger by a friend of mine in FL. He used the original stainless for the soft dodger as the frame for the hard dodger. This was welded to keep it rigid. The top and the bottom are 1/8" fiberglass sheets and the interior is honeycomb. The whole assembly was Awlgripped to match the non-skid. We constantly get complements on the construction. However, Erik said that he would never build another one as it was a royal pain... -- Geoff www.GeoffSchultz.org Geoff, Is this picture of the hard dodger? It looks really nice. My dodger fabric is just about shot, and I've been thinking about replacing it, but then I saw your post, and I was thinking this might be a better, longer-lasting solution. I have a friend who can do the welding. Where did you get the fiberglass sheets? Do you have any drawings, plans, or any other pics I might look at (of the construction or just finished pictures)? This would be a winter project, since I and students prefer something to hide behind in the summer. http://www.geoffschultz.org/BlueJack...121_095647.htm Yes, this is my dodger. I don't know where the fiberglass sheets came from, but it sounds like you've got some suggestions. I'll be glad to take some detailed photos of the completed project if you're interested. -- Geoff www.GeoffSchultz.org |
Hard top dodger/bimini
"Geoff Schultz" wrote in message
.. . "Capt. JG" wrote in : "Geoff Schultz" wrote in message .. . ryanonthebeach wrote in : Hey all I'm designing a hard top dodger for my catamaran see http://www.psychosnail.com/blog/post...mini-hard-Dodg er .aspx Was wondering if any of you have experience working with Last-A-Foam as a core using hand lay up? Is this a good material for hand layup, any gotchas or recommendations? I had my soft dodger converted to a hard dodger by a friend of mine in FL. He used the original stainless for the soft dodger as the frame for the hard dodger. This was welded to keep it rigid. The top and the bottom are 1/8" fiberglass sheets and the interior is honeycomb. The whole assembly was Awlgripped to match the non-skid. We constantly get complements on the construction. However, Erik said that he would never build another one as it was a royal pain... -- Geoff www.GeoffSchultz.org Geoff, Is this picture of the hard dodger? It looks really nice. My dodger fabric is just about shot, and I've been thinking about replacing it, but then I saw your post, and I was thinking this might be a better, longer-lasting solution. I have a friend who can do the welding. Where did you get the fiberglass sheets? Do you have any drawings, plans, or any other pics I might look at (of the construction or just finished pictures)? This would be a winter project, since I and students prefer something to hide behind in the summer. http://www.geoffschultz.org/BlueJack...121_095647.htm Yes, this is my dodger. I don't know where the fiberglass sheets came from, but it sounds like you've got some suggestions. I'll be glad to take some detailed photos of the completed project if you're interested. -- Geoff www.GeoffSchultz.org I would very much! There's no huge rush, as this is going to be a winter project. I tend to sail a bit less then anyway, and not having a dodger wouldn't be a hardship then anyway. Looks like there are a couple of places somewhat local to me that have the material. I just have to line up the welding, windows for the dodger, etc. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com |
Hard top dodger/bimini
On Wed, 22 Jul 2009 21:14:45 -0500, Geoff Schultz
wrote: Yes, this is my dodger. I don't know where the fiberglass sheets came from, but it sounds like you've got some suggestions. I'll be glad to take some detailed photos of the completed project if you're interested. I'm trying to figure out from the pictures whether or not you went with "hard" windows or flexible? Are there cutouts for control lines? |
Hard top dodger/bimini
"Wayne.B" wrote in message
... On Wed, 22 Jul 2009 21:14:45 -0500, Geoff Schultz wrote: Yes, this is my dodger. I don't know where the fiberglass sheets came from, but it sounds like you've got some suggestions. I'll be glad to take some detailed photos of the completed project if you're interested. I'm trying to figure out from the pictures whether or not you went with "hard" windows or flexible? Are there cutouts for control lines? Excellent questions... -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com |
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