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Heart of Gold...Best Season ever!
We're just having such a wonderful season of sailing. I don't think
we've had a single windless day and our short cruises have been fantastic. Block Island is on the menu is a few weeks and a few other shorter runs. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=drDm3WZcK4I Hope everyone is having fun on the water! RB 35s5 NY |
Heart of Gold...Best Season ever!
On Sun, 19 Jul 2009 09:28:54 -0700 (PDT), "Capt. Rob"
wrote: We're just having such a wonderful season of sailing. I don't think we've had a single windless day and our short cruises have been fantastic. Block Island is on the menu is a few weeks and a few other shorter runs. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=drDm3WZcK4I Hope everyone is having fun on the water! Nice video of Western Long Island Sound but I'm concerned that you will get a short life out of that high tech mainsail if you keep luffing it like that. |
Heart of Gold...Best Season ever!
"Capt. Rob" wrote in message
... We're just having such a wonderful season of sailing. I don't think we've had a single windless day and our short cruises have been fantastic. Block Island is on the menu is a few weeks and a few other shorter runs. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=drDm3WZcK4I Hope everyone is having fun on the water! RB 35s5 NY You'd go faster if you didn't luff the mainsail and if you got rid of the wind-up genny and used a hanked-on, 100% jib for a more balanced pull considering the wind speed. Ten years of sailing and you've yet to learn basic sail trim. Pathetic, dude, pathetic! Wilbur Hubbard |
Heart of Gold...Best Season ever!
On Jul 19, 12:55*pm, Wayne.B wrote:
On Sun, 19 Jul 2009 09:28:54 -0700 (PDT), "Capt. Rob" wrote: We're just having such a wonderful season of sailing. I don't think we've had a single windless day and our short cruises have been fantastic. Block Island is on the menu is a few weeks and a few other shorter runs. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=drDm3WZcK4I Hope everyone is having fun on the water! Nice video of Western Long Island Sound but I'm concerned that you will get a short life out of that high tech mainsail if you keep luffing it like that. We've used that kevlar main for 3 seasons and this year it will be probably retired for a conventional main from Doyle. It's been a great sail, but I think I'll save it for when we sell the boat. Sails get used and get beat up and get replaced. It's a small price to pay for all the fun. Not long after the video clip we furled up the genoa and sailed great under just the main on a close reach. I love fractional rigs like ours! RB 35s5 NY |
Heart of Gold...Best Season ever!
You'd go faster if you didn't luff the mainsail and if you got rid of the wind-up genny and used a hanked-on, 100% jib for a more balanced pull considering the wind speed. Ten years of sailing and you've yet to learn basic sail trim. Pathetic, dude, pathetic! Wilbur Hubbard You can always tells an armchair sailor from the real thing by their silly comments...and Wilbur is certainly sitting in a mighty big chair! Wilbur....does not know why we're periodically (GENTLY!) luffing because he does not know the conditions, destination/course or anything! He doesn't even know the size of the genoa or that Suzanne is playing the helm. He suggests that we get rid of a furling system even though we sail with children 95% of the time. And the dumb comment about the main? We've beat on it for 3 years and it was bought USED! So when will it go???? Hmmmmm? Poor Wilbur further fouls his Depends by ignoring the followup comment that we rolled the genoa and sailed with main alone and is incapable of deducing what that means! Oh yeah! Experts everywhere! We're sailing at 3:00 today...and you can bet a million that poor Wilbur will be posting away while we sail!!!! Doh! RB 35s5 NY |
Heart of Gold...Best Season ever!
"Capt. Rob" wrote in message
... snipped some Poor Wilbur further fouls his Depends by ignoring the followup comment that we rolled the genoa and sailed with main alone and is incapable of deducing what that means! And just what do you STILL fail to understand about the virtue of a *balanced* sailplan? Anytime a real sailor sees a yacht proceeding under main alone or under jib alone it tells a tale of ineptitude. Wilbur Hubbard |
Heart of Gold...Best Season ever!
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Heart of Gold...Best Season ever!
And just what do you STILL fail to understand about the virtue of a *balanced* sailplan? Anytime a real sailor sees a yacht proceeding under main alone or under jib alone it tells a tale of ineptitude. Wilbur Hubbard Balanced sailplan??? In increasingly gusty conditions that had us putting the genny to bed minutes later? Where are we headed and why? What is the VMG? Better still, what is wrong with our VMG? When your sailplan IS unbalanced when exactly should you take action and why? Because you really can't answer ANY of these questions relavent to the video clip, why embarrass yourself again and again? In 40 minutes crew will be here and you'll still be scratching yourself and planning your evening of TV. RB 35s5 NY |
Heart of Gold...Best Season ever!
"Capt. Rob" wrote in message
... And just what do you STILL fail to understand about the virtue of a *balanced* sailplan? Anytime a real sailor sees a yacht proceeding under main alone or under jib alone it tells a tale of ineptitude. Wilbur Hubbard Balanced sailplan??? In increasingly gusty conditions that had us putting the genny to bed minutes later? Where are we headed and why? What is the VMG? Better still, what is wrong with our VMG? When your sailplan IS unbalanced when exactly should you take action and why? Because you really can't answer ANY of these questions relavent to the video clip, why embarrass yourself again and again? In 40 minutes crew will be here and you'll still be scratching yourself and planning your evening of TV. RB 35s5 NY An unbalanced sailplan requires the rudder (and helmsman) to work harder trying to counteract the unbalanced forces on the keel. It reduces efficiency. It makes it harder to maneuver efficiently and safely. Increasingly gusty conditions require smaller *sails*. Reef the mainsail AND change to a smaller headsail if the winds pipe up so much that your existing sail area is too large. This will maintain a balanced sailplan for the conditions at hand and will keep the rudder working at maximum efficiency with reduced effort. Any FOOL who strikes the headsail because it decides to blow about 20 knots and operates under mainsail alone is no sailor. If your stupid, wind-up genny is overpowered then wind the damned thin up about halfway and this will reduce your sail area. Isn't that supposed to be one of the benefits of the abominations? Along with this you should take a reef in on the mainsail. The fact of the matter is a sloop sailing under main alone in brisk winds will have excessive weather helm and reduced helm control. If you haven't learned these simple facts in the ten years or so you've been trying to learn to sail then you're just plain stupid and hopeless. Sometime when you have some spare time at home on the computer try looking up a couple of sailing yacht terms. 1) center of effort 2) center of lateral resistance Then try as best you can with that defective brain of yours to apply the concepts to an unbalanced sailplan. Dope! Wilbur Hubbard |
Heart of Gold...Best Season ever!
On Jul 19, 2:25*pm, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote: "Capt. Rob" wrote in message ... And just what do you STILL fail to understand about the virtue of a *balanced* sailplan? Anytime a real sailor sees a yacht proceeding under main alone or under jib alone it tells a tale of ineptitude. Wilbur Hubbard Balanced sailplan??? In increasingly gusty conditions that had us putting the genny to bed minutes later? Where are we headed and why? What is the VMG? Better still, what is wrong with our VMG? When your sailplan IS unbalanced when exactly should you take action and why? Because you really can't answer ANY of these questions relavent to the video clip, why embarrass yourself again and again? In 40 minutes crew will be here and you'll still be scratching yourself and planning your evening of TV. RB 35s5 NY An unbalanced sailplan requires the rudder (and helmsman) to work harder trying to counteract the unbalanced forces on the keel. It reduces efficiency. It makes it harder to maneuver efficiently and safely. Increasingly gusty conditions require smaller *sails*. Reef the mainsail AND change to a smaller headsail if the winds pipe up so much that your existing sail area is too large. This will maintain a balanced sailplan for the conditions at hand and will keep the rudder working at maximum efficiency with reduced effort. Any FOOL who strikes the headsail because it decides to blow about 20 knots and operates under mainsail alone is no sailor. If your stupid, wind-up genny is overpowered then wind the damned thin up about halfway and this will reduce your sail area. Isn't that supposed to be one of the benefits of the abominations? Along with this you should take a reef in on the mainsail. The fact of the matter is a sloop sailing under main alone in brisk winds will have excessive weather helm and reduced helm control. If you haven't learned these simple facts in the ten years or so you've been trying to learn to sail then you're just plain stupid and hopeless. Sometime when you have some spare time at home on the computer try looking up a couple of sailing yacht terms. 1) center of effort 2) center of lateral resistance Then try as best you can with that defective brain of yours to apply the concepts to an unbalanced sailplan. *Dope! Wilbur Hubbard Hilarious...Here I sit aboard my boat and the guy watching re-runs of the Facts of Life is trying to sound important. You have NO CLUE about sailing a fractional rig like ours...that much is obvious. One of the benefits of such a rig is that you can roll the genny and sail along quite nicely under the big main...which is exactly what we did at a very comfortable 5 knots. Which children aboard this is a huge advantage over most mastheads. A 35s5 does just sail well under main alone, it sails GREAT. While other boats fell off and struggled we passed Hart Island within an hour. Like I said....you are CLUELESS. A real sailor (which you will never be) chooses the right set for conditions and crew. You have demonstrated, by ignoring both, that you are not a real sailor. Oh...and the "optimal" set would have been a reefed main and the blade, but you're too ignorant to do anything more than suggest roller-reefing the genny, which is far from optimal when pointing. CLUELESS is what you are. Before even suggesting anything anyone with half a brain would have asked what the conditions were overall, who was aboard and what the sail inventory was. But fool that you are you made a load of ASS-sumptions and now you're knee deep in your own idiocy. But the best part? Winds are light now at about 7-8 knots, but building and I'm going sailing after I shut this notebook! Have fun, LUBBER LOSER! Real sailors actually go SAILING! Enjoy the movie! Bwahahahahhahahhahahhahhaha! RB 35s5 NY |
Heart of Gold...Best Season ever!
"Capt. Rob" wrote in message
... You have NO CLUE about sailing a fractional rig like ours...that much is obvious. One of the benefits of such a rig is that you can roll the genny and sail along quite nicely under the big main...which is exactly what we did at a very comfortable 5 knots. Which children aboard this is a huge advantage over most mastheads. A 35s5 does just sail well under main alone, it sails GREAT. While other boats fell off and struggled we passed Hart Island within an hour. While a fractional rig might well have the mast placed a little further forward it is STILL designed to be balanced under BOTH mainsail and jib. The center of effort is still brought forward with respect to the center of lateral resistance by virtue of the jib or genoa being part of the sailplan. When you savage the sailplan by striking the genoa you savage the balance of the yacht and you impart more weather helm by virtue of the fact that you have moved the center of effort aft compared to the center of lateral resistance. I don't give a hoot about your silly fractional rig other than the fact that it is still a sloop and a sloop is designed to sail with BOTH sails drawing. Get a clue, loser! Wilbur Hubbard |
Heart of Gold...Best Season ever!
On Jul 19, 4:14 pm, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote: "Capt. Rob" wrote in message ... You have NO CLUE about sailing a fractional rig like ours...that much is obvious. One of the benefits of such a rig is that you can roll the genny and sail along quite nicely under the big main...which is exactly what we did at a very comfortable 5 knots. Which children aboard this is a huge advantage over most mastheads. A 35s5 does just sail well under main alone, it sails GREAT. While other boats fell off and struggled we passed Hart Island within an hour. While a fractional rig might well have the mast placed a little further forward it is STILL designed to be balanced under BOTH mainsail and jib. The center of effort is still brought forward with respect to the center of lateral resistance by virtue of the jib or genoa being part of the sailplan. When you savage the sailplan by striking the genoa you savage the balance of the yacht and you impart more weather helm by virtue of the fact that you have moved the center of effort aft compared to the center of lateral resistance. I don't give a hoot about your silly fractional rig other than the fact that it is still a sloop and a sloop is designed to sail with BOTH sails drawing. Get a clue, loser! Wilbur Hubbard Oh....I think everyone else thought that you can fly the boat with VARIOUS sails and combinations....such as genoa alone, main alone, main + Genoa + drifter or just a storm sail and so on..... We had NO IDEA that you can't sail a sloop with just one sail! I guess that's why J-Boats actually talk about that ability in their marketing...because YOU think it's wrong! Dude....you busted yourself SO BADLY. You still never answered a single question about VMG or course because you're clueless. Even your comment about the longevity of the sail was wrong! Do you even know what type of Kevlar I'm flying? We had another great sail while you posted and downloaded episodes of Deep Space 9! Let us know if you ever actually go sailing...and maybe you can post a pic to prove it...without a bent boom! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WVmrrR4_eo4 RB 35s5 NY |
Heart of Gold...Best Season ever!
On Jul 19, 11:28*am, "Capt. Rob" wrote:
We're just having such a wonderful season of sailing. I don't think we've had a single windless day and our short cruises have been fantastic. Block Island is on the menu is a few weeks and a few other shorter runs. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=drDm3WZcK4I Hope everyone is having fun on the water! RB 35s5 NY Looks like fun Bob, cept that cold water forced swim. My dad would just toss us in, wanting to make sure he was getting his money's worth out of the swimming lessons ;0). Have fun on the trip to Block Island. The USCG use to always use the Block Island charts on the navigation portion of the Masters test. You still looking for a bigger boat? Joe |
Heart of Gold...Best Season ever!
Looks like fun Bob, cept that cold water forced swim. My dad would just toss us in, wanting to make sure he was getting his money's worth out of the swimming lessons ;0). Have fun on the trip to Block Island. The USCG use to always use the Block Island charts on the navigation portion of the Masters test. You still looking for a bigger boat? Joe We have been considering a bigger boat, but weekends like this one make me feel that Heart of Gold is plenty for us at the moment. We are still doing mostly social day sailing, often with other kids aboard along with Thomas. The light air ability, fast handling and things like a swim platform and aft cabin have been a huge asset when we do stay on the boat...or go out for a swim. For a few months I had convinced myself that a Corbin 39 Pilothouse would be next year's boat, but I think we'll wait a bit longer. Meanwhile we've been using a new Doyle chute and drifter quite a bit and really enjoying the boat more. I also added a big 150 genoa, which will be good for August if these winds ever do die down. How goes it on your end? What's the plan? Robert |
Heart of Gold...Best Season ever!
On Jul 20, 1:55 am, cavelamb wrote:
Would you guys kindly leave the poor dumb **** alone. No, he doesn't have a clue. That's true. But pleas quit trying to put the poor ******* in his place. Tell me about how the boat handles. Tell me about your crew. Where you've sailed. What's you've done. But leave Wilbur out of the discussions. DON'T reply to him. DON'T correct him. DON'T make fun of him. Just leave him alone. Ignore him. Wilbur is actually Neal Warren, who used to have a boat. Health issues and lack of money have taken away his boat and sailing days. His frustrations have driven him to post all day and every day, mostly NOT about sailing. Responding to him is a bone I can afford and he always comes up short anyway. The bottom line is that we sail and he doesn't. No amount of posting, flaming and trolling can ease that pain for him. I pity the guy actually. RB 35s5 NY |
Heart of Gold...Best Season ever!
On Jul 20, 8:56*am, "Capt. Rob" wrote:
*Looks like fun Bob, cept that cold water forced swim. My dad would just toss us in, wanting to make sure he was getting his money's worth out of the swimming lessons ;0). *Have fun on the trip to Block Island. The USCG use to always use the Block Island charts on the navigation portion of the Masters test. *You still looking for a bigger boat? Joe We have been considering a bigger boat, but weekends like this one make me feel that Heart of Gold is plenty for us at the moment. We are still doing mostly social day sailing, often with other kids aboard along with Thomas. The light air ability, fast handling and things like a swim platform and aft cabin have been a huge asset when we do stay on the boat...or go out for a swim. For a few months I had convinced myself that a Corbin 39 Pilothouse would be next year's boat, but I think we'll wait a bit longer. Meanwhile we've been using a new Doyle chute and drifter quite a bit and really enjoying the boat more. I also added a big 150 genoa, which will be good for August if these winds ever do die down. How goes it on your end? What's the plan? Robert Plans still a bigger better boat for the job. Plugging along. Sales of the coffee are picking up, but we have a long way to go before we lay a keel for the next coffee boat. Need to land some big corporate type accounts. Roger Long came up with a sweet looking 79' hull that can carry a standard 20' container. You can see it on youtube... just search "El lago Coffee" it's at the end of the Voyage of Redcloud video. The dog days came early this year and it's been Hot, that 70 degree water sounds nice. Been working on this boat a bit, lost a rub rail, a cleat and a sampson post in hurricane Ike. Have a ton of teak that needs varnished. Joe |
Heart of Gold...Best Season ever!
On Jul 20, 10:47 am, Joe wrote:
On Jul 20, 8:56 am, "Capt. Rob" wrote: Looks like fun Bob, cept that cold water forced swim. My dad would just toss us in, wanting to make sure he was getting his money's worth out of the swimming lessons ;0). Have fun on the trip to Block Island. The USCG use to always use the Block Island charts on the navigation portion of the Masters test. You still looking for a bigger boat? Joe We have been considering a bigger boat, but weekends like this one make me feel that Heart of Gold is plenty for us at the moment. We are still doing mostly social day sailing, often with other kids aboard along with Thomas. The light air ability, fast handling and things like a swim platform and aft cabin have been a huge asset when we do stay on the boat...or go out for a swim. For a few months I had convinced myself that a Corbin 39 Pilothouse would be next year's boat, but I think we'll wait a bit longer. Meanwhile we've been using a new Doyle chute and drifter quite a bit and really enjoying the boat more. I also added a big 150 genoa, which will be good for August if these winds ever do die down. How goes it on your end? What's the plan? Robert Plans still a bigger better boat for the job. Plugging along. Sales of the coffee are picking up, but we have a long way to go before we lay a keel for the next coffee boat. Need to land some big corporate type accounts. Roger Long came up with a sweet looking 79' hull that can carry a standard 20' container. You can see it on youtube... just search "El lago Coffee" it's at the end of the Voyage of Redcloud video. The dog days came early this year and it's been Hot, that 70 degree water sounds nice. Been working on this boat a bit, lost a rub rail, a cleat and a sampson post in hurricane Ike. Have a ton of teak that needs varnished. Joe I watched the video....the new boat looks like she'll do the job. Bully for you to go ahead undaunted...or perhaps somewhat daunted, but showing the resolve to press forward. I wish you great luck and please keep us all posted on your progress. You're a real sailor! Robert |
Heart of Gold...Best Season ever!
Looks like fun Bob, cept that cold water forced swim. My dad would
just toss us in, wanting to make sure he was getting his money's worth out of the swimming lessons ;0). Have fun on the trip to Block Island. The USCG use to always use the Block Island charts on the navigation portion of the Masters test. As of two years ago they were still using Block Island charts on the navigation portion of the Masters test. Cap Joe |
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