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http://www.d.umn.edu/~jaustin/ICE.html
Yeah, these guys living off Global Warming funding say it's rising .06C/yr! By the year 5485, it may be warm enough, if this rapid trend continues, TO SWIM IN! Global Warming - Your CO2 tax dollars at work..... -- ----- Larry If a man goes way out into the woods all alone and says something, is it still wrong, even though no woman hears him? |
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"Larry" wrote in message
... http://www.d.umn.edu/~jaustin/ICE.html Yeah, these guys living off Global Warming funding say it's rising .06C/yr! By the year 5485, it may be warm enough, if this rapid trend continues, TO SWIM IN! Global Warming - Your CO2 tax dollars at work..... -- ----- Larry If a man goes way out into the woods all alone and says something, is it still wrong, even though no woman hears him? Obviously, you don't understand the science. Why not get out now before you start to look foolish. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com |
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Larry wrote:
http://www.d.umn.edu/~jaustin/ICE.html Yeah, these guys living off Global Warming funding say it's rising .06C/yr! By the year 5485, it may be warm enough, if this rapid trend continues, TO SWIM IN! Global Warming - Your CO2 tax dollars at work..... Recent large decline in CO2 being blamed on recession! Less driving, manufacturing etc, less CO2. Right! Cows quit farting (couldn't afford life's little pleasures), Chinese decided to freeze instead of using their charcoal fires (putrifying flesh is okay) and volkswagon has a diesel that gets 58 mpg without expensive batteries every other year. (WTF, I thought only crossovers could do this)! How much Bull are we expected to consume? It is getting really old. And this crap is from both dems and reps. Time to dump all these **** heads. Nuff rant. Time to go cruisin'! g |
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Gordon wrote:
Larry wrote: http://www.d.umn.edu/~jaustin/ICE.html Yeah, these guys living off Global Warming funding say it's rising .06C/yr! By the year 5485, it may be warm enough, if this rapid trend continues, TO SWIM IN! Global Warming - Your CO2 tax dollars at work..... Recent large decline in CO2 being blamed on recession! Less driving, manufacturing etc, less CO2. Right! Cows quit farting (couldn't afford life's little pleasures), Chinese decided to freeze instead of using their charcoal fires (putrifying flesh is okay) and volkswagon has a diesel that gets 58 mpg without expensive batteries every other year. (WTF, I thought only crossovers could do this)! How much Bull are we expected to consume? It is getting really old. And this crap is from both dems and reps. Time to dump all these **** heads. Nuff rant. Time to go cruisin'! g Turn OFF the TV, G. Life gets a lot better then. |
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Akin to sticking ones head in the sand..but ignorance is bliss isn't it....;-) |
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On Wed, 3 Jun 2009 20:17:37 -0700, "Capt. JG"
wrote: "Larry" wrote in message .. . http://www.d.umn.edu/~jaustin/ICE.html Yeah, these guys living off Global Warming funding say it's rising .06C/yr! By the year 5485, it may be warm enough, if this rapid trend continues, TO SWIM IN! Global Warming - Your CO2 tax dollars at work..... -- ----- Larry If a man goes way out into the woods all alone and says something, is it still wrong, even though no woman hears him? Obviously, you don't understand the science. Why not get out now before you start to look foolish. Too late for that! |
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pirate wrote:
Akin to sticking ones head in the sand..but ignorance is bliss isn't it....;-) To enjoy all of the energy produced by windmills as you sitting in your sailboat feeding the ducks as they swim around your boat. |
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Yeah, these guys living off Global Warming funding say it's rising .06C/yr! By the year 5485, it may be warm enough, if this rapid trend continues, TO SWIM IN! Global Warming - Your CO2 tax dollars at work..... No big deal!!!! The estimate of the sea temps of the early Pleistocene era was that the sea temperature was 18-20 degrees C HOTTER than current. Simple and elemental chemistry equilibrium will show that the hotter the sea the less carbon dioxide saturation in the water hence more CO2 in the atmosphere. Its the SUN stupid, the sun has been at record thermal output for the last few DECADES, no wonder the earth is getting hotter. Until they can control the variability solar output ... all bets are off; of course & unless, you need tax revenue and research funding. |
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Keith Nuttle wrote:
pirate wrote: Akin to sticking ones head in the sand..but ignorance is bliss isn't it....;-) To enjoy all of the energy produced by windmills as you sitting in your sailboat feeding the ducks as they swim around your boat. Horse feathers! If you think you are well informed by that idiot box, you definitely have your head in the sand! |
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On Thu, 4 Jun 2009 06:41:20 -0700 (PDT), RichH
wrote: Its the SUN stupid, the sun has been at record thermal output for the last few DECADES, no wonder the earth is getting hotter. Until they can control the variability solar output ... all bets are off; of course & unless, you need tax revenue and research funding. Rich, please try not to confuse people with the facts. Next thing you know everyone will blame the ice age 12,000 years ago on a decrease in cow manure and we'll all have to start raising livestock. |
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"cavelamb" wrote in message
... Keith Nuttle wrote: pirate wrote: Akin to sticking ones head in the sand..but ignorance is bliss isn't it....;-) To enjoy all of the energy produced by windmills as you sitting in your sailboat feeding the ducks as they swim around your boat. Horse feathers! If you think you are well informed by that idiot box, you definitely have your head in the sand! It has a brightness knob, but that doesn't seem to work. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com |
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"Wayne.B" wrote in message
... On Thu, 4 Jun 2009 06:41:20 -0700 (PDT), RichH wrote: Its the SUN stupid, the sun has been at record thermal output for the last few DECADES, no wonder the earth is getting hotter. Until they can control the variability solar output ... all bets are off; of course & unless, you need tax revenue and research funding. Rich, please try not to confuse people with the facts. Next thing you know everyone will blame the ice age 12,000 years ago on a decrease in cow manure and we'll all have to start raising livestock. I guess you guys need to take a remedial course in basic history. Pollution, for lack of a better word, is good for America. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com |
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Capt. JG wrote:
"cavelamb" wrote in message ... Keith Nuttle wrote: pirate wrote: Akin to sticking ones head in the sand..but ignorance is bliss isn't it....;-) To enjoy all of the energy produced by windmills as you sitting in your sailboat feeding the ducks as they swim around your boat. Horse feathers! If you think you are well informed by that idiot box, you definitely have your head in the sand! It has a brightness knob, but that doesn't seem to work. that's funny! |
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On Thu, 04 Jun 2009 06:41:20 -0700, RichH wrote:
No big deal!!!! snip thank-you Prof. Irwin Corey... |
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"cavelamb" wrote in message
m... Capt. JG wrote: "cavelamb" wrote in message ... Keith Nuttle wrote: pirate wrote: Akin to sticking ones head in the sand..but ignorance is bliss isn't it....;-) To enjoy all of the energy produced by windmills as you sitting in your sailboat feeding the ducks as they swim around your boat. Horse feathers! If you think you are well informed by that idiot box, you definitely have your head in the sand! It has a brightness knob, but that doesn't seem to work. that's funny! I wish it was original... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leo_Gallagher -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com |
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cavelamb wrote:
Keith Nuttle wrote: pirate wrote: Akin to sticking ones head in the sand..but ignorance is bliss isn't it....;-) To enjoy all of the energy produced by windmills as you sitting in your sailboat feeding the ducks as they swim around your boat. Horse feathers! If you think you are well informed by that idiot box, you definitely have your head in the sand! You think a windmill will produce energy when there is not enough wind to move your boat? |
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On Thu, 4 Jun 2009 09:45:58 -0700, "Capt. JG"
wrote: "Wayne.B" wrote in message .. . On Thu, 4 Jun 2009 06:41:20 -0700 (PDT), RichH wrote: Its the SUN stupid, the sun has been at record thermal output for the last few DECADES, no wonder the earth is getting hotter. Until they can control the variability solar output ... all bets are off; of course & unless, you need tax revenue and research funding. Rich, please try not to confuse people with the facts. Next thing you know everyone will blame the ice age 12,000 years ago on a decrease in cow manure and we'll all have to start raising livestock. I guess you guys need to take a remedial course in basic history. Pollution, for lack of a better word, is good for America. Pollution is a serious, but quite separate, issue. Carbon Dioxide (CO2) is not considered to be a pollutant in normal concentration levels. |
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On Thu, 04 Jun 2009 15:56:25 -0400, Gogarty
wrote: I am still accumulating land north of Hudson Bay on which I will erect my year-round resort where one can watch the Northern Lights in mid-winter while wearing a bathing suit -- or nothing. Cool ! |
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Capt. JG wrote:
"cavelamb" wrote in message m... Capt. JG wrote: "cavelamb" wrote in message ... Keith Nuttle wrote: pirate wrote: Akin to sticking ones head in the sand..but ignorance is bliss isn't it....;-) To enjoy all of the energy produced by windmills as you sitting in your sailboat feeding the ducks as they swim around your boat. Horse feathers! If you think you are well informed by that idiot box, you definitely have your head in the sand! It has a brightness knob, but that doesn't seem to work. that's funny! I wish it was original... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leo_Gallagher He is getting olde! But he's always funny. |
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"Wayne.B" wrote in message
... On Thu, 4 Jun 2009 09:45:58 -0700, "Capt. JG" wrote: "Wayne.B" wrote in message . .. On Thu, 4 Jun 2009 06:41:20 -0700 (PDT), RichH wrote: Its the SUN stupid, the sun has been at record thermal output for the last few DECADES, no wonder the earth is getting hotter. Until they can control the variability solar output ... all bets are off; of course & unless, you need tax revenue and research funding. Rich, please try not to confuse people with the facts. Next thing you know everyone will blame the ice age 12,000 years ago on a decrease in cow manure and we'll all have to start raising livestock. I guess you guys need to take a remedial course in basic history. Pollution, for lack of a better word, is good for America. Pollution is a serious, but quite separate, issue. Carbon Dioxide (CO2) is not considered to be a pollutant in normal concentration levels. Come on... "normal concentration levels"? It's not a separate issue. It's a global problem. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com |
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"Wayne.B" wrote in message
... On Thu, 04 Jun 2009 15:56:25 -0400, Gogarty wrote: I am still accumulating land north of Hudson Bay on which I will erect my year-round resort where one can watch the Northern Lights in mid-winter while wearing a bathing suit -- or nothing. Cool ! No... warm. :-) -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com |
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"Capt. JG" wrote in message ... Come on... "normal concentration levels"? It's not a separate issue. It's a global problem. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com And yet carbonated beverages are allowed to run amok. It's not a "serious problem" until soda pop, beer and champagne are outlawed. Until then, people are just flapping their jaws. -- KLC Lewis Irrefutable photographic proof of alien visitations! www.KLCLewisStudios.com |
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"Capt. JG" wrote in
: Pollution is a serious, but quite separate, issue. Carbon Dioxide (CO2) is not considered to be a pollutant in normal concentration levels. Come on... "normal concentration levels"? It's not a separate issue. It's a global problem. The more CO2 in the air, the MORE WE HAVE TO EAT! Eliminate CO2 and WE ALL WILL STARVE! -- ----- Larry If a man goes way out into the woods all alone and says something, is it still wrong, even though no woman hears him? |
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"KLC Lewis" wrote in message
et... "Capt. JG" wrote in message ... Come on... "normal concentration levels"? It's not a separate issue. It's a global problem. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com And yet carbonated beverages are allowed to run amok. It's not a "serious problem" until soda pop, beer and champagne are outlawed. Until then, people are just flapping their jaws. -- KLC Lewis Irrefutable photographic proof of alien visitations! www.KLCLewisStudios.com Heh... -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com |
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"Larry" wrote in message
... "Capt. JG" wrote in : Pollution is a serious, but quite separate, issue. Carbon Dioxide (CO2) is not considered to be a pollutant in normal concentration levels. Come on... "normal concentration levels"? It's not a separate issue. It's a global problem. The more CO2 in the air, the MORE WE HAVE TO EAT! Eliminate CO2 and WE ALL WILL STARVE! -- ----- Larry If a man goes way out into the woods all alone and says something, is it still wrong, even though no woman hears him? Don't loon out Larry. You know damn well that no one is talking about eliminatnig C02. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com |
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Capt. JG wrote:
"Larry" wrote in message ... "Capt. JG" wrote in : Pollution is a serious, but quite separate, issue. Carbon Dioxide (CO2) is not considered to be a pollutant in normal concentration levels. Come on... "normal concentration levels"? It's not a separate issue. It's a global problem. The more CO2 in the air, the MORE WE HAVE TO EAT! Eliminate CO2 and WE ALL WILL STARVE! -- ----- Larry If a man goes way out into the woods all alone and says something, is it still wrong, even though no woman hears him? Don't loon out Larry. You know damn well that no one is talking about eliminatnig C02. No they want to store 3 billion tons of Carbon Dioxide every year from those plants. (National Geographic figures not mine). That means every power plant will have an increasing number of pressurized containers buried around their plant for the storage of the gas, that will have to be maintained for eternity. If one of those thing fails in the next dozen centuries, 100% of every thing living within hundreds of square miles will die. |
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"Larry" wrote in message ... http://www.d.umn.edu/~jaustin/ICE.html Yeah, these guys living off Global Warming funding say it's rising .06C/yr! By the year 5485, it may be warm enough, if this rapid trend continues, TO SWIM IN! Global Warming - Your CO2 tax dollars at work..... -- ----- Larry If a man goes way out into the woods all alone and says something, is it still wrong, even though no woman hears him? I really think the resistance to anything that could be considered as environmentally responsible stems from the same "me generation" thinking as people who want to do something about the homeless but just can't skip thier next latte and give the $4 to the man/woman on the corner instead. It's like the friggin stupidity (not caring if this insults -it is incredibly stupid) of the "conservative" legislators squealing about Obama setting new mileage standards. "It's my RIGHT AS AN AMERICAN to protect my family" by driving a friggin SUV that's as big a tractor trailer. These sure look like the same assholes that were preaching energy independence not too long ago. Yeah. We Americans can get behind anything as long as we aren't expected to sacrifice anything AT ALL for it. Well, maybe we can buy the $1.95 yellow ribbon to show our support for the troops but it's only because we don't want to be seen as unsupportive! We couldn't support a WWII nowadays like our parents did - we're too friggin spoiled. We're 5 year old children being told to share our cookies with a sibling. memememe, I got mine but I want more, more, more! has screwed america. |
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"Keith Nuttle" wrote in message
... Capt. JG wrote: "Larry" wrote in message ... "Capt. JG" wrote in : Pollution is a serious, but quite separate, issue. Carbon Dioxide (CO2) is not considered to be a pollutant in normal concentration levels. Come on... "normal concentration levels"? It's not a separate issue. It's a global problem. The more CO2 in the air, the MORE WE HAVE TO EAT! Eliminate CO2 and WE ALL WILL STARVE! -- ----- Larry If a man goes way out into the woods all alone and says something, is it still wrong, even though no woman hears him? Don't loon out Larry. You know damn well that no one is talking about eliminatnig C02. No they want to store 3 billion tons of Carbon Dioxide every year from those plants. (National Geographic figures not mine). That means every power plant will have an increasing number of pressurized containers buried around their plant for the storage of the gas, that will have to be maintained for eternity. If one of those thing fails in the next dozen centuries, 100% of every thing living within hundreds of square miles will die. You need to restrict your comments to something you know about. You do know about something right? -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com |
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"mmc" wrote in message
g.com... "Larry" wrote in message ... http://www.d.umn.edu/~jaustin/ICE.html Yeah, these guys living off Global Warming funding say it's rising .06C/yr! By the year 5485, it may be warm enough, if this rapid trend continues, TO SWIM IN! Global Warming - Your CO2 tax dollars at work..... -- ----- Larry If a man goes way out into the woods all alone and says something, is it still wrong, even though no woman hears him? I really think the resistance to anything that could be considered as environmentally responsible stems from the same "me generation" thinking as people who want to do something about the homeless but just can't skip thier next latte and give the $4 to the man/woman on the corner instead. It's like the friggin stupidity (not caring if this insults -it is incredibly stupid) of the "conservative" legislators squealing about Obama setting new mileage standards. "It's my RIGHT AS AN AMERICAN to protect my family" by driving a friggin SUV that's as big a tractor trailer. These sure look like the same assholes that were preaching energy independence not too long ago. Yeah. We Americans can get behind anything as long as we aren't expected to sacrifice anything AT ALL for it. Well, maybe we can buy the $1.95 yellow ribbon to show our support for the troops but it's only because we don't want to be seen as unsupportive! We couldn't support a WWII nowadays like our parents did - we're too friggin spoiled. We're 5 year old children being told to share our cookies with a sibling. memememe, I got mine but I want more, more, more! has screwed america. I have no problem allowing people to drive SUVs the size of a big rig. All they have to do is agree to pay for the privilege, including higher fuel costs, pollution tax, insurance, etc. That should also cut out a lot of the morons leaving rubber at one stop light after another, so they can be the first to the next stop light. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com |
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On Fri, 5 Jun 2009 07:11:32 -0700, "Capt. JG"
wrote: "mmc" wrote in message ng.com... "Larry" wrote in message ... http://www.d.umn.edu/~jaustin/ICE.html Yeah, these guys living off Global Warming funding say it's rising .06C/yr! By the year 5485, it may be warm enough, if this rapid trend continues, TO SWIM IN! Global Warming - Your CO2 tax dollars at work..... -- ----- Larry If a man goes way out into the woods all alone and says something, is it still wrong, even though no woman hears him? I really think the resistance to anything that could be considered as environmentally responsible stems from the same "me generation" thinking as people who want to do something about the homeless but just can't skip thier next latte and give the $4 to the man/woman on the corner instead. It's like the friggin stupidity (not caring if this insults -it is incredibly stupid) of the "conservative" legislators squealing about Obama setting new mileage standards. "It's my RIGHT AS AN AMERICAN to protect my family" by driving a friggin SUV that's as big a tractor trailer. These sure look like the same assholes that were preaching energy independence not too long ago. Yeah. We Americans can get behind anything as long as we aren't expected to sacrifice anything AT ALL for it. Well, maybe we can buy the $1.95 yellow ribbon to show our support for the troops but it's only because we don't want to be seen as unsupportive! We couldn't support a WWII nowadays like our parents did - we're too friggin spoiled. We're 5 year old children being told to share our cookies with a sibling. memememe, I got mine but I want more, more, more! has screwed america. I have no problem allowing people to drive SUVs the size of a big rig. All they have to do is agree to pay for the privilege, including higher fuel costs, pollution tax, insurance, etc. That should also cut out a lot of the morons leaving rubber at one stop light after another, so they can be the first to the next stop light. I've always advocated an annual "road tax" based on engine size. Use a base level, say 1,500 c.c., for a nominal tax. then as the displacement goes up the tax goes up, but at, say multiples of 100 c.c.. Say you bought a 2.0 liter car. The first 1,500 c.c costs, say 10 dollars a year, the next 100 c.c = 2 X original tax; second 100 c.c. = 3 X O.T., and so on. You could do the same thing with horse power but it is easier to get into arguments about horse power then it is about displacement. People will say, OH! But I need a big engine". I remember when a 100 HP engine was a BIG engine and most people got along perfectly well with about 65 HP. You can certainly get 100 H.P. out of a 1.5 liter engine these days. This is not a new idea, by the way, it has been used in Europe for many years. Cheers, Bruce in Bangkok (bruceinbangkokatgmaildotcom) |
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"Bruce in Bangkok" wrote in message ... I've always advocated an annual "road tax" based on engine size. Use a base level, say 1,500 c.c., for a nominal tax. then as the displacement goes up the tax goes up, but at, say multiples of 100 c.c.. Say you bought a 2.0 liter car. The first 1,500 c.c costs, say 10 dollars a year, the next 100 c.c = 2 X original tax; second 100 c.c. = 3 X O.T., and so on. You could do the same thing with horse power but it is easier to get into arguments about horse power then it is about displacement. People will say, OH! But I need a big engine". I remember when a 100 HP engine was a BIG engine and most people got along perfectly well with about 65 HP. You can certainly get 100 H.P. out of a 1.5 liter engine these days. This is not a new idea, by the way, it has been used in Europe for many years. Cheers, Bruce in Bangkok (bruceinbangkokatgmaildotcom) How would you calculate the horsepower on a car like my Impala, which shifts into 3 cylinder mode whenever it doesn't need all six? Cruising down the highway on long trips I get over 32mpg, but that drops down to around 28 for mostly city driving (of which I do hardly any). Fuel taxes take all that into consideration automatically. -- KLC Lewis Irrefutable photographic proof of alien visitations! www.KLCLewisStudios.com |
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"Capt. JG" wrote in
easolutions: Love it or leave it. Can't. It's mine. -- ----- Larry If a man goes way out into the woods all alone and says something, is it still wrong, even though no woman hears him? |
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Bruce in Bangkok wrote in
: This is not a new idea, by the way, it has been used in Europe for many years. The politicians, who work for the big oil companies, will do everything in their power to keep microcars like the Tata Nano....OUT OF AMERICA. Smart cars came in the back door as a specialty car and have been effectively defeated by making them so expensive, $18000 is normal, that people are refusing to buy them, now in the depression. The dealer that told me I'd have to be on a waiting list, now calls me weekly to see if they have the car, IN STOCK, I want. I want a Smart DIESEL fortwo and they are NOT imported into America because 1) too high mileage and too low maintenance 2) lower priced as plain car. America has only the upper models. India, Japan, Korea, China all have very fuel efficient micro vehicles Americans cannot own. Government by, of and for the BIG CORPORATIONS..... I'd love to open up a Tata Nano dealership right in the middle of "Car Row" on Savannah Hwy, here in Charleston, selling Nanos for $2000. Tata couldn't supply the demand for a CHEAP CAR.... Of course, GM has some idle factories to build more.... -- ----- Larry If a man goes way out into the woods all alone and says something, is it still wrong, even though no woman hears him? |
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"Larry" wrote in message
... "Capt. JG" wrote in easolutions: Love it or leave it. Can't. It's mine. -- ----- Larry If a man goes way out into the woods all alone and says something, is it still wrong, even though no woman hears him? But, you claim Americans are stupid? What's your excuse? -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com |
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Capt. JG wrote:
"Keith Nuttle" wrote in message ... Capt. JG wrote: "Larry" wrote in message ... "Capt. JG" wrote in : Pollution is a serious, but quite separate, issue. Carbon Dioxide (CO2) is not considered to be a pollutant in normal concentration levels. Come on... "normal concentration levels"? It's not a separate issue. It's a global problem. The more CO2 in the air, the MORE WE HAVE TO EAT! Eliminate CO2 and WE ALL WILL STARVE! -- ----- Larry If a man goes way out into the woods all alone and says something, is it still wrong, even though no woman hears him? Don't loon out Larry. You know damn well that no one is talking about eliminatnig C02. No they want to store 3 billion tons of Carbon Dioxide every year from those plants. (National Geographic figures not mine). That means every power plant will have an increasing number of pressurized containers buried around their plant for the storage of the gas, that will have to be maintained for eternity. If one of those thing fails in the next dozen centuries, 100% of every thing living within hundreds of square miles will die. You need to restrict your comments to something you know about. You do know about something right? If you know of another disposal method for the 3 billion tons Carbon Dioxide that is proposed to be captured from of coal fired energy plants please post to the group so we all will know. Don't just say I don't know what I am talking about. There is one other way to handle it but that will create 7 billion tons/year of metal salts that will have to be treated as toxic waste for eternity. This could be more depending on the metal they used to react with the carbon dioxide. I have a degree in Chemistry and worked in the chemical industry for many years so know my chemistry. I know federal disposal regulations for chemical disposal. Can you tell me the educational basis for your comments? |
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"Capt. JG" wrote in message ions... I have no problem allowing people to drive SUVs the size of a big rig. All they have to do is agree to pay for the privilege, including higher fuel costs, pollution tax, insurance, etc. That should also cut out a lot of the morons leaving rubber at one stop light after another, so they can be the first to the next stop light. Surely higher fuel costs come automatically if you buy something like a big SUV? |
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"Keith Nuttle" wrote in message ... If you know of another disposal method for the 3 billion tons Carbon Dioxide that is proposed to be captured from of coal fired energy plants please post to the group so we all will know. Don't just say I don't know what I am talking about. There is one other way to handle it but that will create 7 billion tons/year of metal salts that will have to be treated as toxic waste for eternity. This could be more depending on the metal they used to react with the carbon dioxide. I have a degree in Chemistry and worked in the chemical industry for many years so know my chemistry. I know federal disposal regulations for chemical disposal. Can you tell me the educational basis for your comments? The current method of sequestering co2 is to pump it into underground chambers left empty from oil deposits. A more long-term solution would be to create calcium carbonate by pumping it through lime slurry, or use it to grow simple plants (algaes) and create more oxygen, trapping the carbon in the plants' cellulose. The algaes can then feed people and animals, and be used as fertilizer for other food crops. -- KLC Lewis Irrefutable photographic proof of alien visitations! www.KLCLewisStudios.com |
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On Fri, 05 Jun 2009 16:19:42 -0400, Keith Nuttle
wrote: Capt. JG wrote: "Keith Nuttle" wrote in message ... Capt. JG wrote: "Larry" wrote in message ... "Capt. JG" wrote in : Pollution is a serious, but quite separate, issue. Carbon Dioxide (CO2) is not considered to be a pollutant in normal concentration levels. Come on... "normal concentration levels"? It's not a separate issue. It's a global problem. The more CO2 in the air, the MORE WE HAVE TO EAT! Eliminate CO2 and WE ALL WILL STARVE! -- ----- Larry If a man goes way out into the woods all alone and says something, is it still wrong, even though no woman hears him? Don't loon out Larry. You know damn well that no one is talking about eliminatnig C02. No they want to store 3 billion tons of Carbon Dioxide every year from those plants. (National Geographic figures not mine). That means every power plant will have an increasing number of pressurized containers buried around their plant for the storage of the gas, that will have to be maintained for eternity. If one of those thing fails in the next dozen centuries, 100% of every thing living within hundreds of square miles will die. You need to restrict your comments to something you know about. You do know about something right? If you know of another disposal method for the 3 billion tons Carbon Dioxide that is proposed to be captured from of coal fired energy plants please post to the group so we all will know. Don't just say I don't know what I am talking about. There is one other way to handle it but that will create 7 billion tons/year of metal salts that will have to be treated as toxic waste for eternity. This could be more depending on the metal they used to react with the carbon dioxide. I have a degree in Chemistry and worked in the chemical industry for many years so know my chemistry. I know federal disposal regulations for chemical disposal. Can you tell me the educational basis for your comments? How much of which chemicals did you ingest? |
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