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The meaning of words.
"slide" wrote in message ... Dennis Pogson wrote: A friend of mine who owns a large charter yacht (72ft LOA), has received an enquiry from a group of US yachtsmen to charter his yacht and cruise the inner and outer Hebrides for 2 weeks in August. They have requested "a chef" to be available throughout the cruise, which has somewhat perplexed my pal Does the word "chef" mean the same in the US as here in the UK, i.e. a professionally-qualified high-grade Gordon Ramsay type who will dream up all manner of meals to satisfy the palates of every individual member of the 8-strong party plus the crew of 3, or are they really looking for a ".cook"? There is a huge difference in the meaing of these 2 words here in the UK. Chefs can earn £50K to £150K a year in Europe (particularly in the UK), and to engage one for 2 weeks would add considerably to the cost of the charter. Some clarification from US sailors would be most welcome! Chef is professional food preparer. The quality would be based on the availability and the price they are willing to pay. Just saying 'chef' does not mean Gorden Ramsey quality! It can mean any one whose in charge of the kitchen even of rather poor quality. Personally I prefer to go sailing to get away from all this formality. A good cooked breakfast, then maybe a burger for lunch, and dinner ashore at some nice restaurant if available. There is no way a chef on board can compete with a shore-based chef with all the facilities for preparing and cooking food. It often adds to the fun to rotate the crew for cooking the evening meal, with each one becoming the chef-du-jour. Most guys and gals who have sailed for a few years will have their own specialty, often excellent, and this request makes me wonder if the prospective charterers are sailors at all, maybe bank execs looking to spend their bonuses! My friend runs his charters on the expectation that the guests will muck in and do some of the work, so he just takes a 1st mate along and everyone joins in with the winching, tailing, foredeck and sail trim. This one sounds like the charterers should really be contacting Carnival, Cunard, P&O or Fred Olsen, that way they would have a huge choice of meals and have to do no work. I could be wrong of course, just curious to know if the request is simply a request to be a little pampered or for a full-blown chef-de-cuisine with all that entails in the cost side. We will contact the charterers and ask for more information. Dennis. |
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The meaning of words.
On Thu, 26 Mar 2009 16:18:09 -0000, "Dennis Pogson"
wrote: "slide" wrote in message ... Dennis Pogson wrote: A friend of mine who owns a large charter yacht (72ft LOA), has received an enquiry from a group of US yachtsmen to charter his yacht and cruise the inner and outer Hebrides for 2 weeks in August. They have requested "a chef" to be available throughout the cruise, which has somewhat perplexed my pal Does the word "chef" mean the same in the US as here in the UK, i.e. a professionally-qualified high-grade Gordon Ramsay type who will dream up all manner of meals to satisfy the palates of every individual member of the 8-strong party plus the crew of 3, or are they really looking for a ".cook"? There is a huge difference in the meaing of these 2 words here in the UK. Chefs can earn £50K to £150K a year in Europe (particularly in the UK), and to engage one for 2 weeks would add considerably to the cost of the charter. Some clarification from US sailors would be most welcome! Chef is professional food preparer. The quality would be based on the availability and the price they are willing to pay. Just saying 'chef' does not mean Gorden Ramsey quality! It can mean any one whose in charge of the kitchen even of rather poor quality. Personally I prefer to go sailing to get away from all this formality. A good cooked breakfast, then maybe a burger for lunch, and dinner ashore at some nice restaurant if available. There is no way a chef on board can compete with a shore-based chef with all the facilities for preparing and cooking food. It often adds to the fun to rotate the crew for cooking the evening meal, with each one becoming the chef-du-jour. Most guys and gals who have sailed for a few years will have their own specialty, often excellent, and this request makes me wonder if the prospective charterers are sailors at all, maybe bank execs looking to spend their bonuses! My friend runs his charters on the expectation that the guests will muck in and do some of the work, so he just takes a 1st mate along and everyone joins in with the winching, tailing, foredeck and sail trim. This one sounds like the charterers should really be contacting Carnival, Cunard, P&O or Fred Olsen, that way they would have a huge choice of meals and have to do no work. I could be wrong of course, just curious to know if the request is simply a request to be a little pampered or for a full-blown chef-de-cuisine with all that entails in the cost side. We will contact the charterers and ask for more information. Dennis. Given that charter rates for a party of eight (did they say) on a 70 ft. vessel would be I suspect that the average bloke would expect a bit of pampering... Cheers, Bruce (bruceinbangkokatgmaildotcom) |
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The meaning of words.
"Dennis Pogson" wrote in
: A friend of mine who owns a large charter yacht (72ft LOA), has received an enquiry from a group of US yachtsmen to charter his yacht and cruise the inner and outer Hebrides for 2 weeks in August. They have requested "a chef" to be available throughout the cruise, which has somewhat perplexed my pal Does the word "chef" mean the same in the US as here in the UK, i.e. a professionally-qualified high-grade Gordon Ramsay type who will dream up all manner of meals to satisfy the palates of every individual member of the 8-strong party plus the crew of 3, or are they really looking for a ".cook"? There is a huge difference in the meaing of these 2 words here in the UK. Chefs can earn £50K to £150K a year in Europe (particularly in the UK), and to engage one for 2 weeks would add considerably to the cost of the charter. Some clarification from US sailors would be most welcome! Dennis Pogson Give them a price with a real chef and a price with a cook. I bet "cook" will be hired....(c;] |
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The meaning of words.
Dinty Moore to the rescue !
"Larry" wrote in message ... "Dennis Pogson" wrote in : A friend of mine who owns a large charter yacht (72ft LOA), has received an enquiry from a group of US yachtsmen to charter his yacht and cruise the inner and outer Hebrides for 2 weeks in August. They have requested "a chef" to be available throughout the cruise, which has somewhat perplexed my pal Does the word "chef" mean the same in the US as here in the UK, i.e. a professionally-qualified high-grade Gordon Ramsay type who will dream up all manner of meals to satisfy the palates of every individual member of the 8-strong party plus the crew of 3, or are they really looking for a ".cook"? There is a huge difference in the meaing of these 2 words here in the UK. Chefs can earn £50K to £150K a year in Europe (particularly in the UK), and to engage one for 2 weeks would add considerably to the cost of the charter. Some clarification from US sailors would be most welcome! Dennis Pogson Give them a price with a real chef and a price with a cook. I bet "cook" will be hired....(c;] |
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