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wordsmith February 24th 09 11:15 PM

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Steve Lusardi February 24th 09 11:51 PM

r.b.c = R.I.P.
 
I agee. This newsgroup has been invaded by idiots. Worse still is that the
culprits do not know they are the problem.
Steve

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cavelamb February 25th 09 12:36 AM

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Steve Lusardi wrote:
I agee. This newsgroup has been invaded by idiots. Worse still is that the
culprits do not know they are the problem.
Steve

"wordsmith" wrote in message
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I'd loan a finger, but in the long run it doesn't really do any good.

Nice try, though!

Richard

cavelamb February 25th 09 01:44 AM

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Dave wrote:
On Tue, 24 Feb 2009 18:36:50 -0600, cavelamb said:

in the long run it doesn't really do any good.


It instills in the author a wonderful feeling of self-righteousness, though:
"God, I thank thee that I am not as other men."


I dunno about the feeling of self-righteousness part.

I think I feel more thankful.

More like, there but for the Grace of God go I...

Capt. JG February 25th 09 02:25 AM

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"cavelamb" wrote in message
m...
Dave wrote:
On Tue, 24 Feb 2009 18:36:50 -0600, cavelamb
said:

in the long run it doesn't really do any good.


It instills in the author a wonderful feeling of self-righteousness,
though:
"God, I thank thee that I am not as other men."


I dunno about the feeling of self-righteousness part.

I think I feel more thankful.

More like, there but for the Grace of God go I...



That's the ticket.

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Wayne.B February 25th 09 02:38 AM

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On Wed, 25 Feb 2009 00:51:41 +0100, "Steve Lusardi"
wrote:

I agee. This newsgroup has been invaded by idiots. Worse still is that the
culprits do not know they are the problem.
Steve

"wordsmith" wrote in message
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pity the dumbassess moved in

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The way to fix this of course is with more on topic boating/cruising
posts.

I went for a cruise in the dinghy today since the trawler is hauled
out for bottom painting. It was kind of interesting actually, the
sort of thing we might do on an actual cruise, exploring interesting
looking backwaters and enjoying an hour or two on the water. There
are lots of opportunities here close to home with all of the canals
and creeks branching off from the Caloosahatchie River.

I've been looking at ways of making the dinghy engine more bullet
proof since my little rowing adventuer in the Marquesas Keys last
month. The net result has been a *large* fuel filter permanently
mounted on the transom and plumbed into the fuel hose. I changed the
quick connects on the tank fittings to make them compatible with each
other and can now switch the fuel line from one tank to the other in
seconds. That leaves me with a second fuel line and primer bulb which
could be used as a backup, or to entirely bypass the filter assembly
if necessary.

None of this would be necessary if I confined my dinghy explorations
to a shorter radius but to me half the fun of cruising is getting out
and exploring the backwaters, even if they happen to be 5 miles away.


Capt. JG February 25th 09 03:20 AM

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"Wayne.B" wrote in message
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On Wed, 25 Feb 2009 00:51:41 +0100, "Steve Lusardi"
wrote:

I agee. This newsgroup has been invaded by idiots. Worse still is that the
culprits do not know they are the problem.
Steve

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The way to fix this of course is with more on topic boating/cruising
posts.

I went for a cruise in the dinghy today since the trawler is hauled
out for bottom painting. It was kind of interesting actually, the
sort of thing we might do on an actual cruise, exploring interesting
looking backwaters and enjoying an hour or two on the water. There
are lots of opportunities here close to home with all of the canals
and creeks branching off from the Caloosahatchie River.

I've been looking at ways of making the dinghy engine more bullet
proof since my little rowing adventuer in the Marquesas Keys last
month. The net result has been a *large* fuel filter permanently
mounted on the transom and plumbed into the fuel hose. I changed the
quick connects on the tank fittings to make them compatible with each
other and can now switch the fuel line from one tank to the other in
seconds. That leaves me with a second fuel line and primer bulb which
could be used as a backup, or to entirely bypass the filter assembly
if necessary.

None of this would be necessary if I confined my dinghy explorations
to a shorter radius but to me half the fun of cruising is getting out
and exploring the backwaters, even if they happen to be 5 miles away.



I just got back from hauling my boat. Took a bunch of video and a few stills
(I'll post them at some point). The bottom looked pretty good for being
untouched for three years. There was still some zincs left on the strut, and
the cutlass had minimal wear.


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www.sailnow.com




Wayne.B February 25th 09 04:04 AM

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On Tue, 24 Feb 2009 19:20:19 -0800, "Capt. JG"
wrote:

I just got back from hauling my boat. Took a bunch of video and a few stills
(I'll post them at some point). The bottom looked pretty good for being
untouched for three years. There was still some zincs left on the strut, and
the cutlass had minimal wear.


What kind of bottom paint did you use? Three years is pretty good.
Mine looked awful after two years but the yard suspects a faulty prep
job on the previous paint. Some spots were surprisingly good however.
Florida is a tough fouling environment of course.


Capt. JG February 25th 09 07:30 AM

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"Wayne.B" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 24 Feb 2009 19:20:19 -0800, "Capt. JG"
wrote:

I just got back from hauling my boat. Took a bunch of video and a few
stills
(I'll post them at some point). The bottom looked pretty good for being
untouched for three years. There was still some zincs left on the strut,
and
the cutlass had minimal wear.


What kind of bottom paint did you use? Three years is pretty good.
Mine looked awful after two years but the yard suspects a faulty prep
job on the previous paint. Some spots were surprisingly good however.
Florida is a tough fouling environment of course.



It's an ablative. Interlux Micron 66. I didn't have a diver. If I had it
might have looked better, but I would risk some additional paint loss, due
to the cleaning.

Bizarrely, I thought I was using Pettit Trinidad and thought it was red not
blue. I guess I was thinking of the other boat that got hauled under my
care. The 66 is a better paint, so I'm happy to spend the extra $200 or so.

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www.sailnow.com




[email protected] February 25th 09 11:49 AM

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On Tue, 24 Feb 2009 23:30:16 -0800, "Capt. JG"
wrote:

"Wayne.B" wrote in message
.. .
On Tue, 24 Feb 2009 19:20:19 -0800, "Capt. JG"
wrote:

I just got back from hauling my boat. Took a bunch of video and a few
stills
(I'll post them at some point). The bottom looked pretty good for being
untouched for three years. There was still some zincs left on the strut,
and
the cutlass had minimal wear.


What kind of bottom paint did you use? Three years is pretty good.
Mine looked awful after two years but the yard suspects a faulty prep
job on the previous paint. Some spots were surprisingly good however.
Florida is a tough fouling environment of course.



It's an ablative. Interlux Micron 66. I didn't have a diver. If I had it
might have looked better, but I would risk some additional paint loss, due
to the cleaning.

Bizarrely, I thought I was using Pettit Trinidad and thought it was red not
blue. I guess I was thinking of the other boat that got hauled under my
care. The 66 is a better paint, so I'm happy to spend the extra $200 or so.


Do you keep your boat in a slip? If so, I'll email you a photo of what
I use to clean the bottom without getting in the water. Cost less than
$20 to make. My dock is in a warm river, so fouling is an issue. Used
to have a diver every 3 weeks. Now I do it myself for free on an "as
needed" basis.

I almost bought a dri-diver, but decided to try this idea first. I
think it works better, and it sure is easier to store. Unlike the
dri-diver, I can use this for the keel and rudder.



Wayne.B February 25th 09 03:42 PM

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On Wed, 25 Feb 2009 06:49:39 -0500, wrote:

Do you keep your boat in a slip? If so, I'll email you a photo of what
I use to clean the bottom without getting in the water. Cost less than
$20 to make.


Perhaps you could post us a URL to the photo using something like:

http://www.imageshack.us/

They ask for your EMAIL but it is not required.

After the picture uploads click on the thumbnail to get the image full
size with a bunch of advertising. On the full size image right click
"properties" to get the actual URL of the image without the
advertising, like this:

http://img3.imageshack.us/img3/8862/...landsounda.jpg

I have always liked that picture because if you look closely, you can
see our transom and wake in the reflection on the dolphin.




Capt. JG February 25th 09 06:22 PM

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wrote in message
...
On Tue, 24 Feb 2009 23:30:16 -0800, "Capt. JG"
wrote:

"Wayne.B" wrote in message
. ..
On Tue, 24 Feb 2009 19:20:19 -0800, "Capt. JG"
wrote:

I just got back from hauling my boat. Took a bunch of video and a few
stills
(I'll post them at some point). The bottom looked pretty good for being
untouched for three years. There was still some zincs left on the strut,
and
the cutlass had minimal wear.

What kind of bottom paint did you use? Three years is pretty good.
Mine looked awful after two years but the yard suspects a faulty prep
job on the previous paint. Some spots were surprisingly good however.
Florida is a tough fouling environment of course.



It's an ablative. Interlux Micron 66. I didn't have a diver. If I had it
might have looked better, but I would risk some additional paint loss, due
to the cleaning.

Bizarrely, I thought I was using Pettit Trinidad and thought it was red
not
blue. I guess I was thinking of the other boat that got hauled under my
care. The 66 is a better paint, so I'm happy to spend the extra $200 or
so.


Do you keep your boat in a slip? If so, I'll email you a photo of what
I use to clean the bottom without getting in the water. Cost less than
$20 to make. My dock is in a warm river, so fouling is an issue. Used
to have a diver every 3 weeks. Now I do it myself for free on an "as
needed" basis.

I almost bought a dri-diver, but decided to try this idea first. I
think it works better, and it sure is easier to store. Unlike the
dri-diver, I can use this for the keel and rudder.




Yep... sure as heck don't want to go swimming, too cold, too polluted. Send
away or post.

I have one of those foam things, but I've been paranoid about using it ..
afraid of scraping too hard and not being able to see what I'm doing.

Given that I've never scraped nor used a diver, the bottom looked pretty
good.


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www.sailnow.com




Wayne.B February 25th 09 07:59 PM

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On Wed, 25 Feb 2009 14:18:05 -0500, wrote:

The commercial "dri-diver" uses what is essentially scotchbrite pads
for cleaning. I think this broom setup is a lot less aggressive than
that, but still wipes all the fuzz off the hull pretty well.


Interesting, thanks. I assume that you use it from a floating dock?


Capt. JG February 25th 09 08:39 PM

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wrote in message
...
On Wed, 25 Feb 2009 10:22:51 -0800, "Capt. JG"
wrote:

wrote in message
. ..
On Tue, 24 Feb 2009 23:30:16 -0800, "Capt. JG"
wrote:

"Wayne.B" wrote in message
m...
On Tue, 24 Feb 2009 19:20:19 -0800, "Capt. JG"
wrote:

I just got back from hauling my boat. Took a bunch of video and a few
stills
(I'll post them at some point). The bottom looked pretty good for
being
untouched for three years. There was still some zincs left on the
strut,
and
the cutlass had minimal wear.

What kind of bottom paint did you use? Three years is pretty good.
Mine looked awful after two years but the yard suspects a faulty prep
job on the previous paint. Some spots were surprisingly good however.
Florida is a tough fouling environment of course.



It's an ablative. Interlux Micron 66. I didn't have a diver. If I had it
might have looked better, but I would risk some additional paint loss,
due
to the cleaning.

Bizarrely, I thought I was using Pettit Trinidad and thought it was red
not
blue. I guess I was thinking of the other boat that got hauled under my
care. The 66 is a better paint, so I'm happy to spend the extra $200 or
so.

Do you keep your boat in a slip? If so, I'll email you a photo of what
I use to clean the bottom without getting in the water. Cost less than
$20 to make. My dock is in a warm river, so fouling is an issue. Used
to have a diver every 3 weeks. Now I do it myself for free on an "as
needed" basis.

I almost bought a dri-diver, but decided to try this idea first. I
think it works better, and it sure is easier to store. Unlike the
dri-diver, I can use this for the keel and rudder.




Yep... sure as heck don't want to go swimming, too cold, too polluted.
Send
away or post.

I have one of those foam things, but I've been paranoid about using it ..
afraid of scraping too hard and not being able to see what I'm doing.

Given that I've never scraped nor used a diver, the bottom looked pretty
good.


http://img408.imageshack.us/my.php?i...ullsweeper.jpg

The broom I used is from Home Depot. They sell it in a few variations.
The difference is mostly how stiff the bristles are. I used the one
they recommended for rough surfaces, which is the stiffest. Still
almost too soft for the job, but very kind to the ablative bottom
paint. This broom has a triangular metal support which you can barely
see in the photo. It goes from the yellow threaded part to two points
on the head of the brush to give it sideways strength. It's needed!
The first one I made lacked that and broke almost immediately. The
yellow piece comes with the broom. I just removed it from the broom
handle it came mounted on. The bent tube is just 3/4" copper plumbing
pipe and a 45 degree elbow solderd together and filled with epoxy. The
offset gained with the tubing is what makes the broom handle able to
clear the curve of the hull to reach all the way to the middle of the
bottom. The two pool noodles push the brush gently but firmly up
against the bottom. I move the handle back and forth, but the pool
noodles apply the pressure without my help. The female thread (green
plastic) I just cut off of a cheaper car window squeegee. I ground
away the body of it until it was paper thin and would fit inside the
3/4 inch pipe. I then filled the pipe with epoxy and inserted the
female piece, which I precoated with some epoxy to fill and voids.
After it set, I drilled into the bottom of the green plastic piece and
the epoxy behind it with a 1/8 inch bit and put in a screw to make
sure the threaded part couldn't be yanked out.

I have used it by threading it onto my telescoping aluminum boat hook,
but that really doesn't reach everywhere. I now have a telescopic
aluminum pole with a METAL threaded end on it that goes from 8 feet to
16 feet. Sounds extreme, but it really makes life easy. Make sure you
get one with a meatl thread. My first one had a plastic thread and
broke the second time I used it.

The commercial "dri-diver" uses what is essentially scotchbrite pads
for cleaning. I think this broom setup is a lot less aggressive than
that, but still wipes all the fuzz off the hull pretty well.



This looks somewhat similar to the commercial scrubber someone gave me a
long time ago. It's got a flat pad about the same width of the broom.


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cavelamb March 6th 09 06:58 AM

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