Haul time
 

Looks like I'm going to get her (Sabre 30, MkII, 1982) hauled in a few days.

Short list of TBDs:

paint
prop zincs
full engine service, including valve adjustment, oil, filter, zincs,
impeller, etc.
add 2nd Racor filter with quick switch
relap two seacocks (bronze Spartens)
replace the steaming light
pull extra wires from the masthead to the base, add a Windex light

Of course, there are lots of other things to do.

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www.sailnow.com

Haul time
 

"Capt. JG" wrote in
easolutions:

Looks like I'm going to get her (Sabre 30, MkII, 1982) hauled in a few
days.

Short list of TBDs:

paint
prop zincs
full engine service, including valve adjustment, oil, filter, zincs,
impeller, etc.
add 2nd Racor filter with quick switch
relap two seacocks (bronze Spartens)
replace the steaming light
pull extra wires from the masthead to the base, add a Windex light

Of course, there are lots of other things to do.


Cutlass bearing, packing gland, shaft alignment inspect/adjust, rudder
bearing service and cable adjustment, replace old rusty anchor chain with
new rusty anchor chain, the list goes on and on.....

Haul time
 

Larry wrote:
"Capt. JG" wrote in
easolutions:

Looks like I'm going to get her (Sabre 30, MkII, 1982) hauled in a few
days.

Short list of TBDs:

paint
prop zincs
full engine service, including valve adjustment, oil, filter, zincs,
impeller, etc.
add 2nd Racor filter with quick switch
relap two seacocks (bronze Spartens)
replace the steaming light
pull extra wires from the masthead to the base, add a Windex light

Of course, there are lots of other things to do.


Cutlass bearing, packing gland, shaft alignment inspect/adjust, rudder
bearing service and cable adjustment, replace old rusty anchor chain with
new rusty anchor chain, the list goes on and on.....

Old definition of a boat:

A hole in the water to pour money in.......

Haul time
 

On Thu, 19 Feb 2009 21:16:10 -0800, "Capt. JG"
wrote:

Looks like I'm going to get her (Sabre 30, MkII, 1982) hauled in a few days.

Short list of TBDs:

paint
prop zincs
full engine service, including valve adjustment, oil, filter, zincs,
impeller, etc.
add 2nd Racor filter with quick switch
relap two seacocks (bronze Spartens)
replace the steaming light
pull extra wires from the masthead to the base, add a Windex light

Of course, there are lots of other things to do.


Cutlass bearing?
Cheers,

Bruce
(bruceinbangkokatgmaildotcom)

Haul time
 

"Larry" wrote in message
...
"Capt. JG" wrote in
easolutions:

Looks like I'm going to get her (Sabre 30, MkII, 1982) hauled in a few
days.

Short list of TBDs:

paint
prop zincs
full engine service, including valve adjustment, oil, filter, zincs,
impeller, etc.
add 2nd Racor filter with quick switch
relap two seacocks (bronze Spartens)
replace the steaming light
pull extra wires from the masthead to the base, add a Windex light

Of course, there are lots of other things to do.


Cutlass bearing, packing gland, shaft alignment inspect/adjust, rudder
bearing service and cable adjustment, replace old rusty anchor chain with
new rusty anchor chain, the list goes on and on.....



Fortunately, those items are not a problem this go around.


--
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www.sailnow.com

Haul time
 

"Sjouke Burry" wrote in message
. ..
Larry wrote:
"Capt. JG" wrote in
easolutions:
Looks like I'm going to get her (Sabre 30, MkII, 1982) hauled in a few
days.
Short list of TBDs:

paint
prop zincs
full engine service, including valve adjustment, oil, filter, zincs,
impeller, etc.
add 2nd Racor filter with quick switch
relap two seacocks (bronze Spartens)
replace the steaming light
pull extra wires from the masthead to the base, add a Windex light

Of course, there are lots of other things to do.


Cutlass bearing, packing gland, shaft alignment inspect/adjust, rudder
bearing service and cable adjustment, replace old rusty anchor chain with
new rusty anchor chain, the list goes on and on.....

Old definition of a boat:

A hole in the water to pour money in.......


No joke. However, this is the first haul in about 3 years for her. No
appreciable bottom growth, minor expenses between then and now.


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Haul time
 

"Bruce in Bangkok" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 19 Feb 2009 21:16:10 -0800, "Capt. JG"
wrote:

Looks like I'm going to get her (Sabre 30, MkII, 1982) hauled in a few
days.

Short list of TBDs:

paint
prop zincs
full engine service, including valve adjustment, oil, filter, zincs,
impeller, etc.
add 2nd Racor filter with quick switch
relap two seacocks (bronze Spartens)
replace the steaming light
pull extra wires from the masthead to the base, add a Windex light

Of course, there are lots of other things to do.


Cutlass bearing?
Cheers,

Bruce
(bruceinbangkokatgmaildotcom)



It was done last time... I'll check it for sure, but I doubt it's an issue.


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www.sailnow.com

Haul time
 

On Thu, 19 Feb 2009 23:27:11 -0800, "Capt. JG"
wrote:

"Bruce in Bangkok" wrote in message
.. .
On Thu, 19 Feb 2009 21:16:10 -0800, "Capt. JG"
wrote:

Looks like I'm going to get her (Sabre 30, MkII, 1982) hauled in a few
days.

Short list of TBDs:

paint
prop zincs
full engine service, including valve adjustment, oil, filter, zincs,
impeller, etc.
add 2nd Racor filter with quick switch
relap two seacocks (bronze Spartens)
replace the steaming light
pull extra wires from the masthead to the base, add a Windex light

Of course, there are lots of other things to do.


Cutlass bearing?
Cheers,

Bruce
(bruceinbangkokatgmaildotcom)



It was done last time... I'll check it for sure, but I doubt it's an issue.

I've been getting by with only hauling every few years, rather then
once a year and had the same outlook toward cutlass bearings but the
past couple of haul outs the bearing hasn't been "that bad" so I left
it alone and a year or so later began to get rattling and vibration at
certain RPMs. Dive down and shake the prop and sure enough the bearing
is loose. Now I just automatically change it every time I have the
boat out of the water. (Even got my own puller :-)
Cheers,

Bruce
(bruceinbangkokatgmaildotcom)

Haul time
 

Capt. JG wrote:
Looks like I'm going to get her (Sabre 30, MkII, 1982) hauled in a few days.

Short list of TBDs:

paint
prop zincs
full engine service, including valve adjustment, oil, filter, zincs,
impeller, etc.
add 2nd Racor filter with quick switch
relap two seacocks (bronze Spartens)
replace the steaming light
pull extra wires from the masthead to the base, add a Windex light

Of course, there are lots of other things to do.


Yeah..we havwe to do that sometime in March...have to go down to
Oriental to do it since we draft too deep for the boatyards here and
have been stuck in the mud there once before..and we weren't too pleased
with them anyway...we'vew been having the divers scrape the bottom
seasonaly and it's pretty clean and they replaced one zinc last time but
we need the stuffing box repacked and stuff like that (and no, Doug...I
do not want to do that in the water...not that I have no faith in you
guys but...)

Haul time
 

"Bruce in Bangkok" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 19 Feb 2009 23:27:11 -0800, "Capt. JG"
wrote:

"Bruce in Bangkok" wrote in message
. ..
On Thu, 19 Feb 2009 21:16:10 -0800, "Capt. JG"
wrote:

Looks like I'm going to get her (Sabre 30, MkII, 1982) hauled in a few
days.

Short list of TBDs:

paint
prop zincs
full engine service, including valve adjustment, oil, filter, zincs,
impeller, etc.
add 2nd Racor filter with quick switch
relap two seacocks (bronze Spartens)
replace the steaming light
pull extra wires from the masthead to the base, add a Windex light

Of course, there are lots of other things to do.


Cutlass bearing?
Cheers,

Bruce
(bruceinbangkokatgmaildotcom)



It was done last time... I'll check it for sure, but I doubt it's an
issue.

I've been getting by with only hauling every few years, rather then
once a year and had the same outlook toward cutlass bearings but the
past couple of haul outs the bearing hasn't been "that bad" so I left
it alone and a year or so later began to get rattling and vibration at
certain RPMs. Dive down and shake the prop and sure enough the bearing
is loose. Now I just automatically change it every time I have the
boat out of the water. (Even got my own puller :-)
Cheers,

Bruce
(bruceinbangkokatgmaildotcom)



Well, it's been 3 years and the diver who checked it for me said it felt
fine. I'll check it myself, but I'm pretty sure it's ok. There's no
vibration I can feel on the wheel.

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www.sailnow.com

Haul time
 

"katy" wrote in message
om...
Capt. JG wrote:
Looks like I'm going to get her (Sabre 30, MkII, 1982) hauled in a few
days.

Short list of TBDs:

paint
prop zincs
full engine service, including valve adjustment, oil, filter, zincs,
impeller, etc.
add 2nd Racor filter with quick switch
relap two seacocks (bronze Spartens)
replace the steaming light
pull extra wires from the masthead to the base, add a Windex light

Of course, there are lots of other things to do.


Yeah..we havwe to do that sometime in March...have to go down to Oriental
to do it since we draft too deep for the boatyards here and have been
stuck in the mud there once before..and we weren't too pleased with them
anyway...we'vew been having the divers scrape the bottom seasonaly and
it's pretty clean and they replaced one zinc last time but we need the
stuffing box repacked and stuff like that (and no, Doug...I do not want to
do that in the water...not that I have no faith in you guys but...)


I've done it several times on a couple of different boats. It's really
pretty easy and unless you take forever, it's not going to sink the boat.
Some water comes in, but it's not like a fire hose.

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

Haul time
 

wrote in message
...
On Fri, 20 Feb 2009 09:59:36 -0800, "Capt. JG"
wrote:

"Bruce in Bangkok" wrote in message
. ..
On Thu, 19 Feb 2009 23:27:11 -0800, "Capt. JG"
wrote:

"Bruce in Bangkok" wrote in message
m...
On Thu, 19 Feb 2009 21:16:10 -0800, "Capt. JG"
wrote:

Looks like I'm going to get her (Sabre 30, MkII, 1982) hauled in a few
days.

Short list of TBDs:

paint
prop zincs
full engine service, including valve adjustment, oil, filter, zincs,
impeller, etc.
add 2nd Racor filter with quick switch
relap two seacocks (bronze Spartens)
replace the steaming light
pull extra wires from the masthead to the base, add a Windex light

Of course, there are lots of other things to do.


Cutlass bearing?
Cheers,

Bruce
(bruceinbangkokatgmaildotcom)



It was done last time... I'll check it for sure, but I doubt it's an
issue.

I've been getting by with only hauling every few years, rather then
once a year and had the same outlook toward cutlass bearings but the
past couple of haul outs the bearing hasn't been "that bad" so I left
it alone and a year or so later began to get rattling and vibration at
certain RPMs. Dive down and shake the prop and sure enough the bearing
is loose. Now I just automatically change it every time I have the
boat out of the water. (Even got my own puller :-)
Cheers,

Bruce
(bruceinbangkokatgmaildotcom)



Well, it's been 3 years and the diver who checked it for me said it felt
fine. I'll check it myself, but I'm pretty sure it's ok. There's no
vibration I can feel on the wheel.

It's one of those things that are better replaced before they need it.



While true, I'm not going to replace something that is perfectly fine. I've
seen boats that had some play in the bearing, that went another three years
on the advice of the yard manager in agreement with a surveyor, the former
of whom who certainly had incentive to change it.


--
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www.sailnow.com

Haul time
 

Capt. JG wrote:
"katy" wrote in message
om...
Capt. JG wrote:
Looks like I'm going to get her (Sabre 30, MkII, 1982) hauled in a few
days.

Short list of TBDs:

paint
prop zincs
full engine service, including valve adjustment, oil, filter, zincs,
impeller, etc.
add 2nd Racor filter with quick switch
relap two seacocks (bronze Spartens)
replace the steaming light
pull extra wires from the masthead to the base, add a Windex light

Of course, there are lots of other things to do.

Yeah..we havwe to do that sometime in March...have to go down to Oriental
to do it since we draft too deep for the boatyards here and have been
stuck in the mud there once before..and we weren't too pleased with them
anyway...we'vew been having the divers scrape the bottom seasonaly and
it's pretty clean and they replaced one zinc last time but we need the
stuffing box repacked and stuff like that (and no, Doug...I do not want to
do that in the water...not that I have no faith in you guys but...)


I've done it several times on a couple of different boats. It's really
pretty easy and unless you take forever, it's not going to sink the boat.
Some water comes in, but it's not like a fire hose.

uhuh..optimal word...water...come...in....slow....Mutt...Jeff... .

Haul time
 

"katy" wrote in message
om...
Yeah..we havwe to do that sometime in March...have to go down to
Oriental to do it since we draft too deep for the boatyards here and have
been stuck in the mud there once before..and we weren't too pleased with
them anyway...we'vew been having the divers scrape the bottom seasonaly
and it's pretty clean and they replaced one zinc last time but we need the
stuffing box repacked and stuff like that (and no, Doug...I do not want to
do that in the water...not that I have no faith in you guys but...)

go on Katy, try it afloat. It will not sink your boat.
First check that you have the right sized square section packing. Measure
the shaft diameter and the diameter of the stern tube's housing for it. Both
these things can be done before you loosen anything off.
Subtract the shaft diameter from the other one and divide by two. This gives
you the size of the packing you need. Obtain a length of the correct
section packing
Then wrap the packing around the shaft and with something really sharp like
a Stanley knife cut through both parts of the packing so you have a turn of
packing that just fits the shaft when the two ends butt together. Make
about four of these and you are set to go.
Slide the packing gland compressor piece out along the shaft and with
something sharp pointed pick out and remove the first turn of packing. There
are probably three turns in all so you can also remove the second. Very
little water should be coming in as yet and unless you feel brave enough to
take the last one out as well you can just replace the two you have taken
out-staggering the joints- and these two new packings will seal the gland
again. The last one can be left in situ until your next haulout.
The secret of success for this job is to have the right size of packing
already cut to exact size before you dismantle anything. You cannot do a
decent job of cutting packing to length when water is coming in all around
the job, but the actual quantity of water coming in with no packing at all
in place is not going to sink your boat if you are ready with the right size
pieces of packing to put back in.
You are able to do this because you have a traditional stuffing box. Mine is
a 'dripless' system with a carbon seal running on a polished face and to
replace it I would not only have to haul out but also would need to pull the
shaft right out.

Haul time
 

"Capt. JG" wrote in message
easolutions...
Well, it's been 3 years and the diver who checked it for me said it
felt
fine. I'll check it myself, but I'm pretty sure it's ok. There's no
vibration I can feel on the wheel.

It's one of those things that are better replaced before they need it.



While true, I'm not going to replace something that is perfectly fine.
I've seen boats that had some play in the bearing, that went another three
years on the advice of the yard manager in agreement with a surveyor, the
former of whom who certainly had incentive to change it.

If you are not using the boat in sandy water these bearings should give very
little trouble but if your boat is cleaned by a diver you should make sure
he knows that it is vital that all marine growth that might impede the free
flow of water through the slots on the cutlass bearing should be carefully
removed and that in doing so he does not push any of the crud into those
slots.

Haul time
 

Edgar wrote:
"katy" wrote in message
om...
Yeah..we havwe to do that sometime in March...have to go down to
Oriental to do it since we draft too deep for the boatyards here and have
been stuck in the mud there once before..and we weren't too pleased with
them anyway...we'vew been having the divers scrape the bottom seasonaly
and it's pretty clean and they replaced one zinc last time but we need the
stuffing box repacked and stuff like that (and no, Doug...I do not want to
do that in the water...not that I have no faith in you guys but...)

go on Katy, try it afloat. It will not sink your boat.
First check that you have the right sized square section packing. Measure
the shaft diameter and the diameter of the stern tube's housing for it. Both
these things can be done before you loosen anything off.
Subtract the shaft diameter from the other one and divide by two. This gives
you the size of the packing you need. Obtain a length of the correct
section packing
Then wrap the packing around the shaft and with something really sharp like
a Stanley knife cut through both parts of the packing so you have a turn of
packing that just fits the shaft when the two ends butt together. Make
about four of these and you are set to go.
Slide the packing gland compressor piece out along the shaft and with
something sharp pointed pick out and remove the first turn of packing. There
are probably three turns in all so you can also remove the second. Very
little water should be coming in as yet and unless you feel brave enough to
take the last one out as well you can just replace the two you have taken
out-staggering the joints- and these two new packings will seal the gland
again. The last one can be left in situ until your next haulout.
The secret of success for this job is to have the right size of packing
already cut to exact size before you dismantle anything. You cannot do a
decent job of cutting packing to length when water is coming in all around
the job, but the actual quantity of water coming in with no packing at all
in place is not going to sink your boat if you are ready with the right size
pieces of packing to put back in.
You are able to do this because you have a traditional stuffing box. Mine is
a 'dripless' system with a carbon seal running on a polished face and to
replace it I would not only have to haul out but also would need to pull the
shaft right out.


nononono..you guys don't understand...they know HOW to do it...it's the
mess they create when they do it and I ahve to clean it up...you have to
access through the aft cabin and tear out al the bedding etc...in a 31
ft boat there is just bnot tahat much room when you're living on it...

Haul time
 

"Edgar" wrote in message
...

"Capt. JG" wrote in message
easolutions...
Well, it's been 3 years and the diver who checked it for me said it
felt
fine. I'll check it myself, but I'm pretty sure it's ok. There's no
vibration I can feel on the wheel.

It's one of those things that are better replaced before they need it.



While true, I'm not going to replace something that is perfectly fine.
I've seen boats that had some play in the bearing, that went another
three years on the advice of the yard manager in agreement with a
surveyor, the former of whom who certainly had incentive to change it.

If you are not using the boat in sandy water these bearings should give
very little trouble but if your boat is cleaned by a diver you should make
sure he knows that it is vital that all marine growth that might impede
the free flow of water through the slots on the cutlass bearing should be
carefully removed and that in doing so he does not push any of the crud
into those slots.

True enough... The SF bay is mostly mud (and rocks). I don't have the bottom
cleaned between haulouts. It just isn't necessary. I'll know when it gets
hauled the extent of the growth, but the diver thought it looked pretty
good. He didn't charge me for looking, since he was right next door.

I'm getting excited to see her in a sling. I'm going to vid the haul if I
can remember to bring the camera.

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Haul time
 

"katy" wrote in message
om...
Capt. JG wrote:
"katy" wrote in message
om...
Capt. JG wrote:
Looks like I'm going to get her (Sabre 30, MkII, 1982) hauled in a few
days.

Short list of TBDs:

paint
prop zincs
full engine service, including valve adjustment, oil, filter, zincs,
impeller, etc.
add 2nd Racor filter with quick switch
relap two seacocks (bronze Spartens)
replace the steaming light
pull extra wires from the masthead to the base, add a Windex light

Of course, there are lots of other things to do.

Yeah..we havwe to do that sometime in March...have to go down to
Oriental to do it since we draft too deep for the boatyards here and
have been stuck in the mud there once before..and we weren't too pleased
with them anyway...we'vew been having the divers scrape the bottom
seasonaly and it's pretty clean and they replaced one zinc last time but
we need the stuffing box repacked and stuff like that (and no, Doug...I
do not want to do that in the water...not that I have no faith in you
guys but...)


I've done it several times on a couple of different boats. It's really
pretty easy and unless you take forever, it's not going to sink the boat.
Some water comes in, but it's not like a fire hose.

uhuh..optimal word...water...come...in....slow....Mutt...Jeff... .


If you haven't tried it yourself, you should get someone who has to show
you. It's an interesting experience, certainly was for me the first time I
saw it and definitely the first time I did it myself. :)

--
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www.sailnow.com

Haul time
 

"Edgar" wrote in message
...

"katy" wrote in message
om...
Yeah..we havwe to do that sometime in March...have to go down to
Oriental to do it since we draft too deep for the boatyards here and have
been stuck in the mud there once before..and we weren't too pleased with
them anyway...we'vew been having the divers scrape the bottom seasonaly
and it's pretty clean and they replaced one zinc last time but we need
the stuffing box repacked and stuff like that (and no, Doug...I do not
want to do that in the water...not that I have no faith in you guys
but...)

go on Katy, try it afloat. It will not sink your boat.
First check that you have the right sized square section packing. Measure
the shaft diameter and the diameter of the stern tube's housing for it.
Both these things can be done before you loosen anything off.
Subtract the shaft diameter from the other one and divide by two. This
gives you the size of the packing you need. Obtain a length of the
correct section packing
Then wrap the packing around the shaft and with something really sharp
like a Stanley knife cut through both parts of the packing so you have a
turn of packing that just fits the shaft when the two ends butt together.
Make about four of these and you are set to go.
Slide the packing gland compressor piece out along the shaft and with
something sharp pointed pick out and remove the first turn of packing.
There are probably three turns in all so you can also remove the second.
Very little water should be coming in as yet and unless you feel brave
enough to take the last one out as well you can just replace the two you
have taken out-staggering the joints- and these two new packings will seal
the gland again. The last one can be left in situ until your next haulout.
The secret of success for this job is to have the right size of packing
already cut to exact size before you dismantle anything. You cannot do a
decent job of cutting packing to length when water is coming in all around
the job, but the actual quantity of water coming in with no packing at
all in place is not going to sink your boat if you are ready with the
right size pieces of packing to put back in.
You are able to do this because you have a traditional stuffing box. Mine
is a 'dripless' system with a carbon seal running on a polished face and
to replace it I would not only have to haul out but also would need to
pull the shaft right out.



And then burp it when it goes wet again... I've heard, but never seen it
done.


--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

Haul time
 

"katy" wrote in message
om...
Edgar wrote:
"katy" wrote in message
om...
Yeah..we havwe to do that sometime in March...have to go down to
Oriental to do it since we draft too deep for the boatyards here and
have been stuck in the mud there once before..and we weren't too pleased
with them anyway...we'vew been having the divers scrape the bottom
seasonaly and it's pretty clean and they replaced one zinc last time but
we need the stuffing box repacked and stuff like that (and no, Doug...I
do not want to do that in the water...not that I have no faith in you
guys but...)

go on Katy, try it afloat. It will not sink your boat.
First check that you have the right sized square section packing. Measure
the shaft diameter and the diameter of the stern tube's housing for it.
Both these things can be done before you loosen anything off.
Subtract the shaft diameter from the other one and divide by two. This
gives you the size of the packing you need. Obtain a length of the
correct section packing
Then wrap the packing around the shaft and with something really sharp
like a Stanley knife cut through both parts of the packing so you have a
turn of packing that just fits the shaft when the two ends butt together.
Make about four of these and you are set to go.
Slide the packing gland compressor piece out along the shaft and with
something sharp pointed pick out and remove the first turn of packing.
There are probably three turns in all so you can also remove the second.
Very little water should be coming in as yet and unless you feel brave
enough to take the last one out as well you can just replace the two you
have taken out-staggering the joints- and these two new packings will
seal the gland again. The last one can be left in situ until your next
haulout.
The secret of success for this job is to have the right size of packing
already cut to exact size before you dismantle anything. You cannot do a
decent job of cutting packing to length when water is coming in all
around the job, but the actual quantity of water coming in with no
packing at all in place is not going to sink your boat if you are ready
with the right size pieces of packing to put back in.
You are able to do this because you have a traditional stuffing box. Mine
is a 'dripless' system with a carbon seal running on a polished face and
to replace it I would not only have to haul out but also would need to
pull the shaft right out.
nononono..you guys don't understand...they know HOW to do it...it's the
mess they create when they do it and I ahve to clean it up...you have to
access through the aft cabin and tear out al the bedding etc...in a 31 ft
boat there is just bnot tahat much room when you're living on it...


It's not much of a mess... the bilge pump will take care of it. I did it on
my 30 ft, no problem. The bilge pump ran twice for a couple of minutes.


--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

Haul time
 

Capt. JG wrote:
"katy" wrote in message
om...
Edgar wrote:
"katy" wrote in message
om...
Yeah..we havwe to do that sometime in March...have to go down to
Oriental to do it since we draft too deep for the boatyards here and
have been stuck in the mud there once before..and we weren't too pleased
with them anyway...we'vew been having the divers scrape the bottom
seasonaly and it's pretty clean and they replaced one zinc last time but
we need the stuffing box repacked and stuff like that (and no, Doug...I
do not want to do that in the water...not that I have no faith in you
guys but...)
go on Katy, try it afloat. It will not sink your boat.
First check that you have the right sized square section packing. Measure
the shaft diameter and the diameter of the stern tube's housing for it.
Both these things can be done before you loosen anything off.
Subtract the shaft diameter from the other one and divide by two. This
gives you the size of the packing you need. Obtain a length of the
correct section packing
Then wrap the packing around the shaft and with something really sharp
like a Stanley knife cut through both parts of the packing so you have a
turn of packing that just fits the shaft when the two ends butt together.
Make about four of these and you are set to go.
Slide the packing gland compressor piece out along the shaft and with
something sharp pointed pick out and remove the first turn of packing.
There are probably three turns in all so you can also remove the second.
Very little water should be coming in as yet and unless you feel brave
enough to take the last one out as well you can just replace the two you
have taken out-staggering the joints- and these two new packings will
seal the gland again. The last one can be left in situ until your next
haulout.
The secret of success for this job is to have the right size of packing
already cut to exact size before you dismantle anything. You cannot do a
decent job of cutting packing to length when water is coming in all
around the job, but the actual quantity of water coming in with no
packing at all in place is not going to sink your boat if you are ready
with the right size pieces of packing to put back in.
You are able to do this because you have a traditional stuffing box. Mine
is a 'dripless' system with a carbon seal running on a polished face and
to replace it I would not only have to haul out but also would need to
pull the shaft right out.
nononono..you guys don't understand...they know HOW to do it...it's the
mess they create when they do it and I ahve to clean it up...you have to
access through the aft cabin and tear out al the bedding etc...in a 31 ft
boat there is just bnot tahat much room when you're living on it...


It's not much of a mess... the bilge pump will take care of it. I did it on
my 30 ft, no problem. The bilge pump ran twice for a couple of minutes.


hahahaha//Iam talking about dragging all the stuff out of the adftcabin
in order to get to it....that's the mess!

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"Dave" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 20 Feb 2009 11:10:16 -0800, "Capt. JG"
said:

And then burp it when it goes wet again... I've heard, but never seen it
done.

That was with the old kind. Newer ones have a vent hose.


Ah... I'm using the nearly dripless material. So far, I haven't see much.

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

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On Fri, 20 Feb 2009 13:58:38 -0500, katy
wrote:

Edgar wrote:
"katy" wrote in message
om...
Yeah..we havwe to do that sometime in March...have to go down to
Oriental to do it since we draft too deep for the boatyards here and have
been stuck in the mud there once before..and we weren't too pleased with
them anyway...we'vew been having the divers scrape the bottom seasonaly
and it's pretty clean and they replaced one zinc last time but we need the
stuffing box repacked and stuff like that (and no, Doug...I do not want to
do that in the water...not that I have no faith in you guys but...)

go on Katy, try it afloat. It will not sink your boat.
First check that you have the right sized square section packing. Measure
the shaft diameter and the diameter of the stern tube's housing for it. Both
these things can be done before you loosen anything off.
Subtract the shaft diameter from the other one and divide by two. This gives
you the size of the packing you need. Obtain a length of the correct
section packing
Then wrap the packing around the shaft and with something really sharp like
a Stanley knife cut through both parts of the packing so you have a turn of
packing that just fits the shaft when the two ends butt together. Make
about four of these and you are set to go.
Slide the packing gland compressor piece out along the shaft and with
something sharp pointed pick out and remove the first turn of packing. There
are probably three turns in all so you can also remove the second. Very
little water should be coming in as yet and unless you feel brave enough to
take the last one out as well you can just replace the two you have taken
out-staggering the joints- and these two new packings will seal the gland
again. The last one can be left in situ until your next haulout.
The secret of success for this job is to have the right size of packing
already cut to exact size before you dismantle anything. You cannot do a
decent job of cutting packing to length when water is coming in all around
the job, but the actual quantity of water coming in with no packing at all
in place is not going to sink your boat if you are ready with the right size
pieces of packing to put back in.
You are able to do this because you have a traditional stuffing box. Mine is
a 'dripless' system with a carbon seal running on a polished face and to
replace it I would not only have to haul out but also would need to pull the
shaft right out.


nononono..you guys don't understand...they know HOW to do it...it's the
mess they create when they do it and I ahve to clean it up...you have to
access through the aft cabin and tear out al the bedding etc...in a 31
ft boat there is just bnot tahat much room when you're living on it...

What mess? Just drag the bedding up on deck and heap it up there by
the mast, get the bed boards out and put them in the Head. Get the job
done, throw the stuff back in the cabin and say "Here, Honey - you can
make the bed now......
Cheers,

Bruce
(bruceinbangkokatgmaildotcom)

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Bruce in Bangkok wrote:

What mess? Just drag the bedding up on deck and heap it up there by
the mast, get the bed boards out and put them in the Head. Get the job
done, throw the stuff back in the cabin and say "Here, Honey - you can
make the bed now......
Cheers,

Bruce

Yer a real trooper there,Bruce.We hae a tarp over the boom sonothing
will fit by the mast,aintno way in GOd'sgreen earth the bedboards
wouldfit in the head and he has about 3 foam mattress top things under
the cushions that don't like being moved...Has anyone everrold you that
you think like a man?
(bruceinbangkokatgmaildotcom)

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On Sat, 21 Feb 2009 00:04:18 -0500, katy
wrote:

Bruce in Bangkok wrote:

What mess? Just drag the bedding up on deck and heap it up there by
the mast, get the bed boards out and put them in the Head. Get the job
done, throw the stuff back in the cabin and say "Here, Honey - you can
make the bed now......
Cheers,

Bruce

Yer a real trooper there,Bruce.We hae a tarp over the boom sonothing
will fit by the mast,aintno way in GOd'sgreen earth the bedboards
wouldfit in the head and he has about 3 foam mattress top things under
the cushions that don't like being moved...Has anyone everrold you that
you think like a man?
(bruceinbangkokatgmaildotcom)



Well there you go then. Got a tarp over the boom - nice little tent
there. Just drag the junk up and pile it in the cockpit, makes for so
much more room "down stairs". Still works though - just dump the stuff
down the hatch and shout "Give me a hand down there, will you Honey?

Gets about the same results..... and comments....
Cheers,

Bruce
(bruceinbangkokatgmaildotcom)

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On Sat, 21 Feb 2009 00:04:18 -0500, katy
wrote:

Bruce in Bangkok wrote:

What mess? Just drag the bedding up on deck and heap it up there by
the mast, get the bed boards out and put them in the Head. Get the job
done, throw the stuff back in the cabin and say "Here, Honey - you can
make the bed now......
Cheers,

Bruce

Yer a real trooper there,Bruce.We hae a tarp over the boom sonothing
will fit by the mast,aintno way in GOd'sgreen earth the bedboards
wouldfit in the head and he has about 3 foam mattress top things under
the cushions that don't like being moved...Has anyone everrold you that
you think like a man?
(bruceinbangkokatgmaildotcom)


Yeah. One of those men that gets things done while a women stands
nearby, reciting a list of reasons why what he's doing can't be done.

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On Sat, 21 Feb 2009 09:30:50 -0500, wrote:

On Sat, 21 Feb 2009 00:04:18 -0500, katy
wrote:

Bruce in Bangkok wrote:

What mess? Just drag the bedding up on deck and heap it up there by
the mast, get the bed boards out and put them in the Head. Get the job
done, throw the stuff back in the cabin and say "Here, Honey - you can
make the bed now......
Cheers,

Bruce

Yer a real trooper there,Bruce.We hae a tarp over the boom sonothing
will fit by the mast,aintno way in GOd'sgreen earth the bedboards
wouldfit in the head and he has about 3 foam mattress top things under
the cushions that don't like being moved...Has anyone everrold you that
you think like a man?
(bruceinbangkokatgmaildotcom)


Yeah. One of those men that gets things done while a women stands
nearby, reciting a list of reasons why what he's doing can't be done.

Back when we were younger I used to try logic - "here's the hammer,
you fix it!" Nope, she don't fall for that, tells me that her side of
the bargain was cooking and having kids, and damn but I can't do
either.

After forty-something years though we've sort of come to a solution.
She still rants and rages and I don't listen. Keeps us both happy.
Cheers,

Bruce
(bruceinbangkokatgmaildotcom)

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Bruce in Bangkok wrote:
On Sat, 21 Feb 2009 00:04:18 -0500, katy
wrote:

Bruce in Bangkok wrote:

What mess? Just drag the bedding up on deck and heap it up there by
the mast, get the bed boards out and put them in the Head. Get the job
done, throw the stuff back in the cabin and say "Here, Honey - you can
make the bed now......
Cheers,

Bruce
Yer a real trooper there,Bruce.We hae a tarp over the boom sonothing
will fit by the mast,aintno way in GOd'sgreen earth the bedboards
wouldfit in the head and he has about 3 foam mattress top things under
the cushions that don't like being moved...Has anyone everrold you that
you think like a man?
(bruceinbangkokatgmaildotcom)



Well there you go then. Got a tarp over the boom - nice little tent
there. Just drag the junk up and pile it in the cockpit, makes for so
much more room "down stairs". Still works though - just dump the stuff
down the hatch and shout "Give me a hand down there, will you Honey?

Gets about the same results..... and comments....
Cheers,

Bruce
(bruceinbangkokatgmaildotcom)

You must have an iron constitution...

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Bruce in Bangkok wrote:


After forty-something years though we've sort of come to a solution.
She still rants and rages and I don't listen. Keeps us both happy.
Cheers,

Bruce
(bruceinbangkokatgmaildotcom)


More couples should take lessons from the two of you....it's when people
start listening to each other that problems start...

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On Sat, 21 Feb 2009 22:34:45 +0700, Bruce in Bangkok
wrote:

On Sat, 21 Feb 2009 09:30:50 -0500, wrote:

On Sat, 21 Feb 2009 00:04:18 -0500, katy
wrote:

Bruce in Bangkok wrote:

What mess? Just drag the bedding up on deck and heap it up there by
the mast, get the bed boards out and put them in the Head. Get the job
done, throw the stuff back in the cabin and say "Here, Honey - you can
make the bed now......
Cheers,

Bruce

Yer a real trooper there,Bruce.We hae a tarp over the boom sonothing
will fit by the mast,aintno way in GOd'sgreen earth the bedboards
wouldfit in the head and he has about 3 foam mattress top things under
the cushions that don't like being moved...Has anyone everrold you that
you think like a man?
(bruceinbangkokatgmaildotcom)


Yeah. One of those men that gets things done while a women stands
nearby, reciting a list of reasons why what he's doing can't be done.

Back when we were younger I used to try logic - "here's the hammer,
you fix it!" Nope, she don't fall for that, tells me that her side of
the bargain was cooking and having kids, and damn but I can't do
either.

After forty-something years though we've sort of come to a solution.
She still rants and rages and I don't listen. Keeps us both happy.
Cheers,

Bruce
(bruceinbangkokatgmaildotcom)

I'm very fortunate to have a wife who isn't at all like the one I
described above.

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"katy" wrote in message
om...

Nah...most women who liveaboard do more than thier fair share of the
work..we were always taught as kids that if you start a job yourself, you
finish it yourself,ncluding the cleanup...You made the mess, you clean up
the mess...

Absolutely. We are not high-maintenance boat furniture.

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On Sat, 21 Feb 2009 12:05:52 -0500, katy
wrote:

wrote:
On Sat, 21 Feb 2009 00:04:18 -0500, katy
wrote:

Bruce in Bangkok wrote:

What mess? Just drag the bedding up on deck and heap it up there by
the mast, get the bed boards out and put them in the Head. Get the job
done, throw the stuff back in the cabin and say "Here, Honey - you can
make the bed now......
Cheers,

Bruce
Yer a real trooper there,Bruce.We hae a tarp over the boom sonothing
will fit by the mast,aintno way in GOd'sgreen earth the bedboards
wouldfit in the head and he has about 3 foam mattress top things under
the cushions that don't like being moved...Has anyone everrold you that
you think like a man?
(bruceinbangkokatgmaildotcom)


Yeah. One of those men that gets things done while a women stands
nearby, reciting a list of reasons why what he's doing can't be done.

Nah...most women who liveaboard do more than thier fair share of the
work..we were always taught as kids that if you start a job yourself,
you finish it yourself,ncluding the cleanup...You made the mess, you
clean up the mess...


God Lord, don't you remember Love, Honor and Obey?
Cheers,

Bruce
(bruceinbangkokatgmaildotcom)

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On Sat, 21 Feb 2009 11:27:02 -0600, "KLC Lewis"
wrote:


"katy" wrote in message
. com...

Nah...most women who liveaboard do more than thier fair share of the
work..we were always taught as kids that if you start a job yourself, you
finish it yourself,ncluding the cleanup...You made the mess, you clean up
the mess...

Absolutely. We are not high-maintenance boat furniture.

Low maintenance, actually - self replicating too.
Cheers,

Bruce
(bruceinbangkokatgmaildotcom)

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On Sat, 21 Feb 2009 12:09:39 -0500, katy
wrote:

Bruce in Bangkok wrote:


After forty-something years though we've sort of come to a solution.
She still rants and rages and I don't listen. Keeps us both happy.
Cheers,

Bruce
(bruceinbangkokatgmaildotcom)


More couples should take lessons from the two of you....it's when people
start listening to each other that problems start...

I probably come from an older generation then you do but in my
formative years divorce was just never discussed, in fact it seemed
that divorced was a synonym for "Scarlet" when it was applied to
women. As a result, in most cases, divorce just wasn't an option so
couples learned to live together.

Certainly some men are probably not easy to live with but some women
aren't either with their constant carping. The difference is if you
are headed toward a lifetime relationship, as we thought we were, we
had a good look at what we were "getting into bed with". A survey made
amongst collage women in the early '50's showed that these middle
class maidens counted financial security far higher then a handsome,
swinging, stud.

So whether we had more consideration for "what will happen to the poor
kids" or not, we did learn to live with each other.
Cheers,

Bruce
(bruceinbangkokatgmaildotcom)

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Bruce in Bangkok wrote:
On Sat, 21 Feb 2009 12:05:52 -0500, katy
wrote:

wrote:
On Sat, 21 Feb 2009 00:04:18 -0500, katy
wrote:

Bruce in Bangkok wrote:

What mess? Just drag the bedding up on deck and heap it up there by
the mast, get the bed boards out and put them in the Head. Get the job
done, throw the stuff back in the cabin and say "Here, Honey - you can
make the bed now......
Cheers,

Bruce
Yer a real trooper there,Bruce.We hae a tarp over the boom sonothing
will fit by the mast,aintno way in GOd'sgreen earth the bedboards
wouldfit in the head and he has about 3 foam mattress top things under
the cushions that don't like being moved...Has anyone everrold you that
you think like a man?
(bruceinbangkokatgmaildotcom)

Yeah. One of those men that gets things done while a women stands
nearby, reciting a list of reasons why what he's doing can't be done.

Nah...most women who liveaboard do more than thier fair share of the
work..we were always taught as kids that if you start a job yourself,
you finish it yourself,ncluding the cleanup...You made the mess, you
clean up the mess...


God Lord, don't you remember Love, Honor and Obey?
Cheers,

Bruce
(bruceinbangkokatgmaildotcom)


I neer said those words...neither did he....but our dog had to make that
vow once he gained his maority...

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On Sat, 21 Feb 2009 21:34:18 -0500, katy
wrote:

Bruce in Bangkok wrote:
On Sat, 21 Feb 2009 12:05:52 -0500, katy
wrote:

wrote:
On Sat, 21 Feb 2009 00:04:18 -0500, katy
wrote:

Bruce in Bangkok wrote:

What mess? Just drag the bedding up on deck and heap it up there by
the mast, get the bed boards out and put them in the Head. Get the job
done, throw the stuff back in the cabin and say "Here, Honey - you can
make the bed now......
Cheers,

Bruce
Yer a real trooper there,Bruce.We hae a tarp over the boom sonothing
will fit by the mast,aintno way in GOd'sgreen earth the bedboards
wouldfit in the head and he has about 3 foam mattress top things under
the cushions that don't like being moved...Has anyone everrold you that
you think like a man?
(bruceinbangkokatgmaildotcom)

Yeah. One of those men that gets things done while a women stands
nearby, reciting a list of reasons why what he's doing can't be done.

Nah...most women who liveaboard do more than thier fair share of the
work..we were always taught as kids that if you start a job yourself,
you finish it yourself,ncluding the cleanup...You made the mess, you
clean up the mess...


God Lord, don't you remember Love, Honor and Obey?
Cheers,

Bruce
(bruceinbangkokatgmaildotcom)


I neer said those words...neither did he....but our dog had to make that
vow once he gained his maority...

Well, there goes tradition - what ever happened to the male going out
to kill the dinosaur while wifie stays in the cave frying steaks and
feeding kids?

Cheers,

Bruce
(bruceinbangkokatgmaildotcom)

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Bruce in Bangkok wrote:
On Sat, 21 Feb 2009 21:34:18 -0500, katy
wrote:

Bruce in Bangkok wrote:
On Sat, 21 Feb 2009 12:05:52 -0500, katy
wrote:

wrote:
On Sat, 21 Feb 2009 00:04:18 -0500, katy
wrote:

Bruce in Bangkok wrote:

What mess? Just drag the bedding up on deck and heap it up there by
the mast, get the bed boards out and put them in the Head. Get the job
done, throw the stuff back in the cabin and say "Here, Honey - you can
make the bed now......
Cheers,

Bruce
Yer a real trooper there,Bruce.We hae a tarp over the boom sonothing
will fit by the mast,aintno way in GOd'sgreen earth the bedboards
wouldfit in the head and he has about 3 foam mattress top things under
the cushions that don't like being moved...Has anyone everrold you that
you think like a man?
(bruceinbangkokatgmaildotcom)

Yeah. One of those men that gets things done while a women stands
nearby, reciting a list of reasons why what he's doing can't be done.

Nah...most women who liveaboard do more than thier fair share of the
work..we were always taught as kids that if you start a job yourself,
you finish it yourself,ncluding the cleanup...You made the mess, you
clean up the mess...

God Lord, don't you remember Love, Honor and Obey?
Cheers,

Bruce
(bruceinbangkokatgmaildotcom)

I neer said those words...neither did he....but our dog had to make that
vow once he gained his maority...

Well, there goes tradition - what ever happened to the male going out
to kill the dinosaur while wifie stays in the cave frying steaks and
feeding kids?

Cheers,

Bruce
(bruceinbangkokatgmaildotcom)

Gone away, thank goodness....all the women in my family hunt and can
dress out their own game...we also clean our own fish..and then we cook
them...you are LIVING ANACHRONISM...

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On Sun, 22 Feb 2009 01:27:41 -0500, katy
wrote:

Bruce in Bangkok wrote:
On Sat, 21 Feb 2009 21:34:18 -0500, katy
wrote:

Bruce in Bangkok wrote:
On Sat, 21 Feb 2009 12:05:52 -0500, katy
wrote:

wrote:
On Sat, 21 Feb 2009 00:04:18 -0500, katy
wrote:

Bruce in Bangkok wrote:

What mess? Just drag the bedding up on deck and heap it up there by
the mast, get the bed boards out and put them in the Head. Get the job
done, throw the stuff back in the cabin and say "Here, Honey - you can
make the bed now......
Cheers,

Bruce
Yer a real trooper there,Bruce.We hae a tarp over the boom sonothing
will fit by the mast,aintno way in GOd'sgreen earth the bedboards
wouldfit in the head and he has about 3 foam mattress top things under
the cushions that don't like being moved...Has anyone everrold you that
you think like a man?
(bruceinbangkokatgmaildotcom)

Yeah. One of those men that gets things done while a women stands
nearby, reciting a list of reasons why what he's doing can't be done.

Nah...most women who liveaboard do more than thier fair share of the
work..we were always taught as kids that if you start a job yourself,
you finish it yourself,ncluding the cleanup...You made the mess, you
clean up the mess...

God Lord, don't you remember Love, Honor and Obey?
Cheers,

Bruce
(bruceinbangkokatgmaildotcom)

I neer said those words...neither did he....but our dog had to make that
vow once he gained his maority...

Well, there goes tradition - what ever happened to the male going out
to kill the dinosaur while wifie stays in the cave frying steaks and
feeding kids?

Cheers,

Bruce
(bruceinbangkokatgmaildotcom)

Gone away, thank goodness....all the women in my family hunt and can
dress out their own game...we also clean our own fish..and then we cook
them...you are LIVING ANACHRONISM...


You see, there you go making suppositions again. I let my wife clean
the fish..

Actually we share and share alike - She gets to stay home and clean
fish and have babies and I get to go out and thrash around to make
enough money to support her.

Pretty equitable, she reckons.
Cheers,

Bruce
(bruceinbangkokatgmaildotcom)