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Wilbur Hubbard March 21st 09 12:03 AM

LIVE from Morgan City, LA !
 
wrote in message
...
On Fri, 20 Mar 2009 18:28:22 -0400, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote:

"Joe" wrote in message
...
snippage

I'm glad you were able to find something on the internet related to
the subject.



I know all that confined space safety stuff without having to search it on
the Internet.


Jail cell




Yup, I'm posting from a jail cell right now. That anonymous remailer stalker
got me arrested. He was just sooooo convincing.

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Wilbur Hubbard



Bruce In Bangkok March 21st 09 01:00 AM

LIVE from Morgan City, LA !
 
On Fri, 20 Mar 2009 15:17:13 -0700 (PDT), Joe
wrote:

On Mar 20, 3:32*pm, "Gregory Hall" wrote:
"Joe" wrote in message

...
snippage


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I did not make it sound like that, you assumed.

And yes a proper breathing apparatus (forced air hoods) are required
in the mud tanks as most mud is petro based. I said you have to "Suit
up" to go into the tanks bonehead, pay attention Im not talking about
a gray pin stripe.


Are you using oil based mud in the gulf now? Over here there is very
little used, or at least it is not usually used, as it costs more and
generally the formations found do not require it. In addition most
countries in the area are now, more of less, environmentally conscious
so the days of just dumping the mud tanks is pretty well over.

By the way, I find that snipping Willy's comments contributes to the
intellectual quotient of the conversation :-)

Joe
I'm glad you were able to find something on the internet related to
the subject.

Cheers,

Bruce
(bruceinbangkokatgmaildotcom)

Joe March 21st 09 07:46 PM

LIVE from Morgan City, LA !
 
On Mar 20, 7:00*pm, Bruce In Bangkok
wrote:
On Fri, 20 Mar 2009 15:17:13 -0700 (PDT), Joe

wrote:
On Mar 20, 3:32*pm, "Gregory Hall" wrote:
"Joe" wrote in message


....
snippage
- Show quoted text -


I did not make it sound like that, you assumed.


And yes a proper breathing apparatus (forced air hoods) are required
in the mud tanks as most mud is petro based. I said you have to "Suit
up" to go into the tanks bonehead, pay attention Im not talking about
a gray pin stripe.


Are you using oil based mud in the gulf now? Over here there is very
little used, or at least it is not usually used, as it costs more and
generally the formations found do not require it. In addition most
countries in the area are now, more of less, environmentally conscious
so the days of just dumping the mud tanks is pretty well over.


We could never dump mud, if they over bought they would take back
what was never used. I'm not sure what kind stuff they are mixing
these days, it would change weekly to what ever was the best thing
going. We hauled stuff that looks and feels like heavy runny snot to
boat loads of black magic. I think the gulf is getting pretty tight on
any type of discharge, and it's been awhile since I hung around with
any drilling fluid folks.

Joe



By the way, I find that snipping Willy's comments contributes to the
intellectual quotient of the conversation * :-)

Joe
I'm glad you were able to find something on the internet related to
the subject.


Cheers,

Bruce
(bruceinbangkokatgmaildotcom)



Bob March 22nd 09 12:33 AM

LIVE from Morgan City, LA !
 
On Mar 19, 11:30*pm, Bruce In Bangkok
wrote:


Not to be too noisy but what is the pay scale on a work boat? A day
rate for days worked? Or hourly? Monthly?



I was hired as an OS at $150/day. From what I understand that is
typical pay for unlicensed people.

ABs get $240-$320 per day

I was told Im off to another boat and will be filling an AB spot
there. I guess they wanted to see if an old guy could cut it. guess I
did.


Ill be starting $260/day as AB with this company

Bob

Bob March 22nd 09 12:39 AM

LIVE from Morgan City, LA !
 
On Mar 20, 9:04*am, Joe wrote:




*You mean a 300 ton boat right? A supply boat? Do you know the name of
the boat?


Nope......... actually about 1300 GRT


I can't think of any 1,600 ton boats working in the Gulf, unless your
going to work for NOAA, or on a semi underway or perhaps a smaller
drill ship.


there are several 1600 ton boats and a few UL in deep.

Im NOT on an OSV or a crewboat or utility or a sismic or a NOAA or
semi..........
Humm I wonder whats left????



*What's the name of the boat you are on now?

Dont want to say

Who's it buildt by?

Master Boat Builders
2001

Who you guys working for?


The boat delivers services for companies.

*Supply boats have cement and mud tanks Bob. I warned you!


No worres here we dont do that kinda stuff. We dont schlep stuff
around.

Bob

Joe March 22nd 09 01:30 AM

LIVE from Morgan City, LA !
 
On Mar 21, 6:39*pm, Bob wrote:


No worres here we dont do that kinda stuff. We dont schlep stuff
around.

Bob


Thats great Bob, sounds like you got one of thoses union jobs, on a
boat buildt by Masters.

I guess you're skeered or ashamed to say what boat you are on. Must
be a real P.O.S.

Oh well your little stories are kinda lame anyway, you sound more
giddy than Lydia steering a boat, I bet you wet your panties.

Your just to OS Bobbie

Joe






..


Bob March 22nd 09 02:02 AM

LIVE from Morgan City, LA !
 
On Mar 21, 7:30*pm, Joe wrote:

Thats great Bob, sounds like you got one of thoses union jobs, on a
boat buildt by Masters.


Nope not a union boat. Nor a tug


*I guess you're skeered or ashamed to say what boat you are on. Must
be a real P.O.S.


Neither. Just dont like puking personal info here like Skip n others.
I use Bob only cause Its a fitting name for being on the water.


Oh well your little stories are kinda lame anyway, you sound more
giddy than Lydia steering a boat, I bet you wet your panties.


When I was diving it was SOP to **** ur self. No big deal.

Joe


Hope you have a good day...... Ill keep a look out for a coffee slick
while Im out here.
Off to bed.. I got to go to work 2maro. how about you?

Bob



[email protected] March 22nd 09 02:08 AM

LIVE from Morgan City, LA !
 
On Mar 21, 7:30*pm, Joe wrote:
On Mar 21, 6:39*pm, Bob wrote:



No worres here we dont do that kinda stuff. We dont schlep stuff
around.


Bob


Thats great Bob, sounds like you got one of thoses union jobs, on a
boat buildt by Masters.

*I guess you're skeered or ashamed to say what boat you are on. Must
be a real P.O.S.

Oh well your little stories are kinda lame anyway, you sound more
giddy than Lydia steering a boat, I bet you wet your panties.

Your just to OS Bobbie

Joe

.


PS Sorry for the dis-Bob.

After allIm sure your forked out thousands of dollars in school to
obtain the rank of OS

After reading your responces to the questions I figured out I should
have never asked you them as you do not know.

After all the Capatin has most likely not shared any of that kind of
information with you.

Let me see if I can ask some questions you might be able to answer.

Do you AJAX or Comet in the ****ters?
Can you still get that good brasso with the cotton ?
Are your paint brushes made with synthetic or natural brissles?

Well that about covers it.

Joe



[email protected] March 22nd 09 02:21 AM

LIVE from Morgan City, LA !
 
On Mar 21, 8:02*pm, Bob wrote:
On Mar 21, 7:30*pm, Joe wrote:

Thats great Bob, sounds like you got one of thoses union jobs, on a
boat buildt by Masters.


Nope not a union boat. Nor a tug

*I guess you're skeered or ashamed to say what boat you are on. Must
be a real P.O.S.


Neither. Just dont like puking personal info here like Skip n others.
I use Bob only cause Its a fitting name for being on the water.

Oh well your little stories are kinda lame anyway, you sound more
giddy than Lydia steering a boat, I bet you wet your panties.


When I was diving it was SOP to **** ur self. No big deal.

Joe


Hope you have a good day...... Ill keep a look out for a coffee slick
while Im *out here.
Off to bed.. I got to go to work 2maro. how about you?

Bob


Yeah I have to roast coffee for a couple of grocery stores a resturant
and a couple of corporate accounts.
Have a presentation to get together for a national family diner chain
bashed here in Houston.

I will have to admin my Job board, as you can imagine it's been very
busy. It's been on line since 1997.
lightboard.com

And I own a recruiting firm (hence the email addy incase you never
figured it out) and, have to prep a young fellow for an interview
Monday.

Also I have a mile of Teak on my boat that needs a new coat of
varnish, maybe I can find some dumb out of work fellow from the PNW to
do it for me for a few bucks.

Joe


Joe March 22nd 09 04:16 AM

LIVE from Morgan City, LA !
 
On Mar 21, 8:21*pm, wrote:
On Mar 21, 8:02*pm, Bob wrote:





On Mar 21, 7:30*pm, Joe wrote:


Thats great Bob, sounds like you got one of thoses union jobs, on a
boat buildt by Masters.


Nope not a union boat. Nor a tug


*I guess you're skeered or ashamed to say what boat you are on. Must
be a real P.O.S.


Neither. Just dont like puking personal info here like Skip n others.
I use Bob only cause Its a fitting name for being on the water.


Oh well your little stories are kinda lame anyway, you sound more
giddy than Lydia steering a boat, I bet you wet your panties.


When I was diving it was SOP to **** ur self. No big deal.


Joe


Hope you have a good day...... Ill keep a look out for a coffee slick
while Im *out here.
Off to bed.. I got to go to work 2maro. how about you?


Bob


Yeah I have to roast coffee for a couple of grocery stores a resturant
and a couple of corporate accounts.
*Have a presentation to get together for a national family diner chain
bashed here in Houston.

I will have to admin my Job board, as you can imagine it's been very
busy. *It's been on line since 1997.
lightboard.com

And I own a recruiting firm (hence the email addy incase you never
figured it out) and, have to prep a young fellow for an interview
Monday.

Also I have a mile of Teak on my boat that needs a new coat of
varnish, maybe I can find some dumb out of work fellow from the PNW to
do it for me for a few bucks.

Joe- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


PS BOB

One last thing before I go to listen to the band at the Boardwalk
with friends, then maybe out on the bay for a quick moonlight cruise.

I dont have to rush to bed because I will not have a dispacher
screaming to get under a crane ot 03:30. Or a Captain telling me the
****ters need scrubbed again. Might sleep in late if I feel like it.
I work were I want and when I want.

I do not have to drive across the country to work because I take
chances.
Moved into the .com before the bubble burst and we are still going
strong, after many failed.
Owned a shrimp boat, failed at it
Opened a recruiting firm, still going strong after many many firms
have failed.
Had a 1,600 masters at 24 and left the industry for better money and a
better lifestyle.
Just started a coffee company that has a goal to bring back sail
transport, and the company is growing while others like Starbucks are
dropping like flies.

So you keep on making your smart ass comments about my losing
RedCloud and her cargo of coffee and I will keep doing or trying to
develope the worlds best career for myself. I will be master of a next
generation coffee clipper, providing 100's of thousands of people with
the freshest best tasting coffee in America, and in doing so will
reduce this country dependence on oil from places like Iraq. I'm going
to live my dream, it's just a bit different than scrubbing ****ters.

I only responded to you hoping to provide you help in prusing your
dream career of scrubbing ****ters, I'll seldom bother again as you
want to play the role of an asshole sock like Nellie.

You keep joking about a coffee slick douchebag, I brought my crew to
shore alive and well, and I'm smart enough to be very grateful for
that. I've know many that have not been so lucky, you keep with it,
you will too.

Who knows Bob, maybe some night soon I will be sailing a three masted
clipper through the oilfield you are tending. I'll be on my way to
somewhere exotic, tropical, a real paradise and passage full of
adventure, while you hang off a bouy scrubbing ****ters. Two dream
worlds passing in the night!

Aint life grand?

Adios Pandeho.

Java Joe



Bruce In Bangkok March 22nd 09 06:05 AM

LIVE from Morgan City, LA !
 
On Sat, 21 Mar 2009 17:33:20 -0700 (PDT), Bob
wrote:

On Mar 19, 11:30*pm, Bruce In Bangkok
wrote:


Not to be too noisy but what is the pay scale on a work boat? A day
rate for days worked? Or hourly? Monthly?



I was hired as an OS at $150/day. From what I understand that is
typical pay for unlicensed people.

ABs get $240-$320 per day

I was told Im off to another boat and will be filling an AB spot
there. I guess they wanted to see if an old guy could cut it. guess I
did.


Ill be starting $260/day as AB with this company

Bob



How does that compare with say, an engineer?

Just trying to get an idea of relationship of pay there to pay here.
Of course here there would be no foreign AB's but there might be a
foreign engineer.

Cheers,

Bruce
(bruceinbangkokatgmaildotcom)

Wilbur Hubbard March 22nd 09 05:03 PM

LIVE from Morgan City, LA !
 
wrote in message
...


PS Sorry for the dis-Bob.

After allIm sure your forked out thousands of dollars in school to
obtain the rank of OS

After reading your responces to the questions I figured out I should
have never asked you them as you do not know.

After all the Capatin has most likely not shared any of that kind of
information with you.

Let me see if I can ask some questions you might be able to answer.

Do you AJAX or Comet in the ****ters?
Can you still get that good brasso with the cotton ?
Are your paint brushes made with synthetic or natural brissles?

Well that about covers it.



That chip on your shoulder sure is huge, Joe! Honestly, I don't know why you
even bothered with a helicopter rescue. You and your entire crew could have
floated to shore in comfort on that six-man life raft of a chip.

Wilbur Hubbard



Joe March 22nd 09 06:06 PM

LIVE from Morgan City, LA !
 
On Mar 22, 12:05*am, Bruce In Bangkok
wrote:
On Sat, 21 Mar 2009 17:33:20 -0700 (PDT), Bob
wrote:





On Mar 19, 11:30*pm, Bruce In Bangkok
wrote:


Not to be too noisy but what is the pay scale on a work boat? A day
rate for days worked? Or hourly? Monthly?


I was hired as an OS at $150/day. From what I understand that is
typical pay for unlicensed people.


ABs get $240-$320 per day


I was told Im off to another boat and will be filling an AB spot
there. I guess they wanted to see if an old guy could cut it. guess I
did.


Ill be starting $260/day as AB with this company


Bob


How does that compare with say, an engineer?

Just trying to get an idea of relationship of pay there to pay here.
Of course here there would be no foreign AB's but there might be a
foreign engineer.

Cheers,

Bruce
(bruceinbangkokatgmaildotcom)- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Hello Bruce,

Here the average pay for a 4000 HP engineer with a couple years
experience is 500 a day.

Joe


Bruce In Bangkok March 23rd 09 12:24 AM

LIVE from Morgan City, LA !
 
On Sun, 22 Mar 2009 11:06:42 -0700 (PDT), Joe
wrote:

On Mar 22, 12:05*am, Bruce In Bangkok
wrote:
On Sat, 21 Mar 2009 17:33:20 -0700 (PDT), Bob
wrote:





On Mar 19, 11:30*pm, Bruce In Bangkok
wrote:


Not to be too noisy but what is the pay scale on a work boat? A day
rate for days worked? Or hourly? Monthly?


I was hired as an OS at $150/day. From what I understand that is
typical pay for unlicensed people.


ABs get $240-$320 per day


I was told Im off to another boat and will be filling an AB spot
there. I guess they wanted to see if an old guy could cut it. guess I
did.


Ill be starting $260/day as AB with this company


Bob


How does that compare with say, an engineer?

Just trying to get an idea of relationship of pay there to pay here.
Of course here there would be no foreign AB's but there might be a
foreign engineer.

Cheers,

Bruce
(bruceinbangkokatgmaildotcom)- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Hello Bruce,

Here the average pay for a 4000 HP engineer with a couple years
experience is 500 a day.

Joe


Interesting as that is somewhere in the general neighborhood of what
would be paid over here for a "rig mechanic", assuming that he is US
or European but they are getting scarce. Years ago we used to have
supply boats and tugs with US or European officers but now days they
are all Indonesian or Filipino. Wages are obviously somewhat lower.

Cheers,

Bruce
(bruceinbangkokatgmaildotcom)

Joe March 23rd 09 01:53 PM

LIVE from Morgan City, LA !
 
On Mar 22, 6:24*pm, Bruce In Bangkok
wrote:
On Sun, 22 Mar 2009 11:06:42 -0700 (PDT), Joe





wrote:
On Mar 22, 12:05*am, Bruce In Bangkok
wrote:
On Sat, 21 Mar 2009 17:33:20 -0700 (PDT), Bob
wrote:


On Mar 19, 11:30*pm, Bruce In Bangkok
wrote:


Not to be too noisy but what is the pay scale on a work boat? A day
rate for days worked? Or hourly? Monthly?


I was hired as an OS at $150/day. From what I understand that is
typical pay for unlicensed people.


ABs get $240-$320 per day


I was told Im off to another boat and will be filling an AB spot
there. I guess they wanted to see if an old guy could cut it. guess I
did.


Ill be starting $260/day as AB with this company


Bob


How does that compare with say, an engineer?


Just trying to get an idea of relationship of pay there to pay here.
Of course here there would be no foreign AB's but there might be a
foreign engineer.


Cheers,


Bruce
(bruceinbangkokatgmaildotcom)- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


Hello Bruce,


Here the average pay for a 4000 HP engineer with a couple years
experience is 500 a day.


Joe


Interesting as that is somewhere in the general neighborhood of what
would be paid over here for a "rig mechanic", assuming that he is US
or European but they are getting scarce. Years ago we used to have
supply boats and tugs with US or European officers but now days they
are all Indonesian or Filipino. Wages are obviously somewhat lower.

Cheers,

Bruce
(bruceinbangkokatgmaildotcom)- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Somewhat lower wages? Once we were working a production field pulling
up dry well heads for Mobil.
Had a boat from Norway working with us, they had a huge stern A frame.
Anyhow things were going good everyone happy till they found out we
made about 400 times the money they made. They had an attitude after
that ;0)

Here in Houston AB's make an average of 175-195 a day. I have a friend
that owns Houston Marine dot com.
My cousin and him served on a CG tender together. He trains 100's
every year.

Bob did better than any other AB I know of.... scoring that 240 a day
gig as an AB.

Joe

Wilbur Hubbard March 23rd 09 04:02 PM

LIVE from Morgan City, LA !
 
"Joe" wrote in message
...
trimmed a bunch

Here in Houston AB's make an average of 175-195 a day. I have a friend
that owns Houston Marine dot com.
My cousin and him served on a CG tender together. He trains 100's
every year.

Bob did better than any other AB I know of.... scoring that 240 a day
gig as an AB.



Is there such a thing as an AM (Able Minded) seaman?

It seems to me that's something none of you so-called professionals seem to
possess.

Wilbur Hubbard



Marty[_2_] March 23rd 09 09:15 PM

LIVE from Morgan City, LA !
 
Joe wrote:


Bob did better than any other AB I know of.... scoring that 240 a day
gig as an AB.


Unions will do that for you.

Cheers
Martin

Joe March 23rd 09 11:09 PM

LIVE from Morgan City, LA !
 
On Mar 23, 3:15*pm, Marty wrote:
Joe wrote:

*Bob did better than any other AB I know of.... scoring that 240 a day
gig as an AB.


Unions will do that for you.

Cheers
Martin


That must be it.
I bet he flashed his union card to the HR manager, right after he
demanded to be issued a new cold water survival suit.

Joe





Bruce In Bangkok March 24th 09 12:38 AM

LIVE from Morgan City, LA !
 
On Mon, 23 Mar 2009 06:53:37 -0700 (PDT), Joe
wrote:

On Mar 22, 6:24*pm, Bruce In Bangkok
wrote:
On Sun, 22 Mar 2009 11:06:42 -0700 (PDT), Joe





wrote:
On Mar 22, 12:05*am, Bruce In Bangkok
wrote:
On Sat, 21 Mar 2009 17:33:20 -0700 (PDT), Bob
wrote:


On Mar 19, 11:30*pm, Bruce In Bangkok
wrote:


Not to be too noisy but what is the pay scale on a work boat? A day
rate for days worked? Or hourly? Monthly?


I was hired as an OS at $150/day. From what I understand that is
typical pay for unlicensed people.


ABs get $240-$320 per day


I was told Im off to another boat and will be filling an AB spot
there. I guess they wanted to see if an old guy could cut it. guess I
did.


Ill be starting $260/day as AB with this company


Bob


How does that compare with say, an engineer?


Just trying to get an idea of relationship of pay there to pay here.
Of course here there would be no foreign AB's but there might be a
foreign engineer.


Cheers,


Bruce
(bruceinbangkokatgmaildotcom)- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


Hello Bruce,


Here the average pay for a 4000 HP engineer with a couple years
experience is 500 a day.


Joe


Interesting as that is somewhere in the general neighborhood of what
would be paid over here for a "rig mechanic", assuming that he is US
or European but they are getting scarce. Years ago we used to have
supply boats and tugs with US or European officers but now days they
are all Indonesian or Filipino. Wages are obviously somewhat lower.

Cheers,

Bruce
(bruceinbangkokatgmaildotcom)- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Somewhat lower wages? Once we were working a production field pulling
up dry well heads for Mobil.
Had a boat from Norway working with us, they had a huge stern A frame.
Anyhow things were going good everyone happy till they found out we
made about 400 times the money they made. They had an attitude after
that ;0)

Here in Houston AB's make an average of 175-195 a day. I have a friend
that owns Houston Marine dot com.
My cousin and him served on a CG tender together. He trains 100's
every year.

Bob did better than any other AB I know of.... scoring that 240 a day
gig as an AB.

Joe



For quite a while companies over here used to have different pay
scales for different nationalities. U.S. was highest, Brits and
Australians lower, etc. Apparently some Bean Counter's idea of an
equitable system based on home country salaries.

Unfortunately, the hands talk to each other and sure enough you'd get
a crew down in the jungles somewhere that would get to talking and
some of the hands would discover that they were getting less money for
the same work and want to quit. Of course, it is hard to quit down
there in the jungle when you have to wait for the next crew change
airplane but in a couple of cases people did down tools and lay around
the camp waiting for the plane. which of course ****ed off the rest of
the crew.

One of the startling innovations our company made was to pay everyone
the same......

Cheers,

Bruce
(bruceinbangkokatgmaildotcom)

Capt. JG March 24th 09 12:58 AM

LIVE from Morgan City, LA !
 
"Bruce In Bangkok" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 23 Mar 2009 06:53:37 -0700 (PDT), Joe
wrote:

On Mar 22, 6:24 pm, Bruce In Bangkok
wrote:
On Sun, 22 Mar 2009 11:06:42 -0700 (PDT), Joe





wrote:
On Mar 22, 12:05 am, Bruce In Bangkok
wrote:
On Sat, 21 Mar 2009 17:33:20 -0700 (PDT), Bob
wrote:

On Mar 19, 11:30 pm, Bruce In Bangkok
wrote:

Not to be too noisy but what is the pay scale on a work boat? A
day
rate for days worked? Or hourly? Monthly?

I was hired as an OS at $150/day. From what I understand that is
typical pay for unlicensed people.

ABs get $240-$320 per day

I was told Im off to another boat and will be filling an AB spot
there. I guess they wanted to see if an old guy could cut it. guess
I
did.

Ill be starting $260/day as AB with this company

Bob

How does that compare with say, an engineer?

Just trying to get an idea of relationship of pay there to pay here.
Of course here there would be no foreign AB's but there might be a
foreign engineer.

Cheers,

Bruce
(bruceinbangkokatgmaildotcom)- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Hello Bruce,

Here the average pay for a 4000 HP engineer with a couple years
experience is 500 a day.

Joe

Interesting as that is somewhere in the general neighborhood of what
would be paid over here for a "rig mechanic", assuming that he is US
or European but they are getting scarce. Years ago we used to have
supply boats and tugs with US or European officers but now days they
are all Indonesian or Filipino. Wages are obviously somewhat lower.

Cheers,

Bruce
(bruceinbangkokatgmaildotcom)- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Somewhat lower wages? Once we were working a production field pulling
up dry well heads for Mobil.
Had a boat from Norway working with us, they had a huge stern A frame.
Anyhow things were going good everyone happy till they found out we
made about 400 times the money they made. They had an attitude after
that ;0)

Here in Houston AB's make an average of 175-195 a day. I have a friend
that owns Houston Marine dot com.
My cousin and him served on a CG tender together. He trains 100's
every year.

Bob did better than any other AB I know of.... scoring that 240 a day
gig as an AB.

Joe



For quite a while companies over here used to have different pay
scales for different nationalities. U.S. was highest, Brits and
Australians lower, etc. Apparently some Bean Counter's idea of an
equitable system based on home country salaries.

Unfortunately, the hands talk to each other and sure enough you'd get
a crew down in the jungles somewhere that would get to talking and
some of the hands would discover that they were getting less money for
the same work and want to quit. Of course, it is hard to quit down
there in the jungle when you have to wait for the next crew change
airplane but in a couple of cases people did down tools and lay around
the camp waiting for the plane. which of course ****ed off the rest of
the crew.

One of the startling innovations our company made was to pay everyone
the same......

Cheers,

Bruce
(bruceinbangkokatgmaildotcom)



So they all put down the tool and lay around waiting for the plane? :)

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Bruce In Bangkok March 24th 09 04:17 AM

LIVE from Morgan City, LA !
 
On Mon, 23 Mar 2009 17:58:42 -0700, "Capt. JG"
wrote:

"Bruce In Bangkok" wrote in message
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On Mon, 23 Mar 2009 06:53:37 -0700 (PDT), Joe
wrote:

On Mar 22, 6:24 pm, Bruce In Bangkok
wrote:
On Sun, 22 Mar 2009 11:06:42 -0700 (PDT), Joe





wrote:
On Mar 22, 12:05 am, Bruce In Bangkok
wrote:
On Sat, 21 Mar 2009 17:33:20 -0700 (PDT), Bob
wrote:

On Mar 19, 11:30 pm, Bruce In Bangkok
wrote:

Not to be too noisy but what is the pay scale on a work boat? A
day
rate for days worked? Or hourly? Monthly?

I was hired as an OS at $150/day. From what I understand that is
typical pay for unlicensed people.

ABs get $240-$320 per day

I was told Im off to another boat and will be filling an AB spot
there. I guess they wanted to see if an old guy could cut it. guess
I
did.

Ill be starting $260/day as AB with this company

Bob

How does that compare with say, an engineer?

Just trying to get an idea of relationship of pay there to pay here.
Of course here there would be no foreign AB's but there might be a
foreign engineer.

Cheers,

Bruce
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Hello Bruce,

Here the average pay for a 4000 HP engineer with a couple years
experience is 500 a day.

Joe

Interesting as that is somewhere in the general neighborhood of what
would be paid over here for a "rig mechanic", assuming that he is US
or European but they are getting scarce. Years ago we used to have
supply boats and tugs with US or European officers but now days they
are all Indonesian or Filipino. Wages are obviously somewhat lower.

Cheers,

Bruce
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Somewhat lower wages? Once we were working a production field pulling
up dry well heads for Mobil.
Had a boat from Norway working with us, they had a huge stern A frame.
Anyhow things were going good everyone happy till they found out we
made about 400 times the money they made. They had an attitude after
that ;0)

Here in Houston AB's make an average of 175-195 a day. I have a friend
that owns Houston Marine dot com.
My cousin and him served on a CG tender together. He trains 100's
every year.

Bob did better than any other AB I know of.... scoring that 240 a day
gig as an AB.

Joe



For quite a while companies over here used to have different pay
scales for different nationalities. U.S. was highest, Brits and
Australians lower, etc. Apparently some Bean Counter's idea of an
equitable system based on home country salaries.

Unfortunately, the hands talk to each other and sure enough you'd get
a crew down in the jungles somewhere that would get to talking and
some of the hands would discover that they were getting less money for
the same work and want to quit. Of course, it is hard to quit down
there in the jungle when you have to wait for the next crew change
airplane but in a couple of cases people did down tools and lay around
the camp waiting for the plane. which of course ****ed off the rest of
the crew.

One of the startling innovations our company made was to pay everyone
the same......

Cheers,

Bruce
(bruceinbangkokatgmaildotcom)



So they all put down the tool and lay around waiting for the plane? :)


No, but they used to complain a lot. Funny, a guy would come in all
raggedy and dirty and say something like, "I really need a job". We'd
hire him and he couldn't wait to sign his contract - never even read
it. Then, as soon as he had gotten his first pay check he's in the
office bitching about his per diem or something. I used to say, "Hey!
That was all in the contract you signed - you want me to get it out
and we can read it together?"

As someone in the U.S. Embassy, Saigon, was reputed to have said, "If
it wasn't for you guys coming in here bitching this would be a pretty
good job."

Cheers,

Bruce
(bruceinbangkokatgmaildotcom)

Capt. JG March 24th 09 04:59 AM

LIVE from Morgan City, LA !
 
"Bruce In Bangkok" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 23 Mar 2009 17:58:42 -0700, "Capt. JG"
wrote:

"Bruce In Bangkok" wrote in message
. ..
On Mon, 23 Mar 2009 06:53:37 -0700 (PDT), Joe
wrote:

On Mar 22, 6:24 pm, Bruce In Bangkok
wrote:
On Sun, 22 Mar 2009 11:06:42 -0700 (PDT), Joe





wrote:
On Mar 22, 12:05 am, Bruce In Bangkok
wrote:
On Sat, 21 Mar 2009 17:33:20 -0700 (PDT), Bob
wrote:

On Mar 19, 11:30 pm, Bruce In Bangkok
wrote:

Not to be too noisy but what is the pay scale on a work boat? A
day
rate for days worked? Or hourly? Monthly?

I was hired as an OS at $150/day. From what I understand that is
typical pay for unlicensed people.

ABs get $240-$320 per day

I was told Im off to another boat and will be filling an AB spot
there. I guess they wanted to see if an old guy could cut it.
guess
I
did.

Ill be starting $260/day as AB with this company

Bob

How does that compare with say, an engineer?

Just trying to get an idea of relationship of pay there to pay
here.
Of course here there would be no foreign AB's but there might be a
foreign engineer.

Cheers,

Bruce
(bruceinbangkokatgmaildotcom)- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Hello Bruce,

Here the average pay for a 4000 HP engineer with a couple years
experience is 500 a day.

Joe

Interesting as that is somewhere in the general neighborhood of what
would be paid over here for a "rig mechanic", assuming that he is US
or European but they are getting scarce. Years ago we used to have
supply boats and tugs with US or European officers but now days they
are all Indonesian or Filipino. Wages are obviously somewhat lower.

Cheers,

Bruce
(bruceinbangkokatgmaildotcom)- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Somewhat lower wages? Once we were working a production field pulling
up dry well heads for Mobil.
Had a boat from Norway working with us, they had a huge stern A frame.
Anyhow things were going good everyone happy till they found out we
made about 400 times the money they made. They had an attitude after
that ;0)

Here in Houston AB's make an average of 175-195 a day. I have a friend
that owns Houston Marine dot com.
My cousin and him served on a CG tender together. He trains 100's
every year.

Bob did better than any other AB I know of.... scoring that 240 a day
gig as an AB.

Joe


For quite a while companies over here used to have different pay
scales for different nationalities. U.S. was highest, Brits and
Australians lower, etc. Apparently some Bean Counter's idea of an
equitable system based on home country salaries.

Unfortunately, the hands talk to each other and sure enough you'd get
a crew down in the jungles somewhere that would get to talking and
some of the hands would discover that they were getting less money for
the same work and want to quit. Of course, it is hard to quit down
there in the jungle when you have to wait for the next crew change
airplane but in a couple of cases people did down tools and lay around
the camp waiting for the plane. which of course ****ed off the rest of
the crew.

One of the startling innovations our company made was to pay everyone
the same......

Cheers,

Bruce
(bruceinbangkokatgmaildotcom)



So they all put down the tool and lay around waiting for the plane? :)


No, but they used to complain a lot. Funny, a guy would come in all
raggedy and dirty and say something like, "I really need a job". We'd
hire him and he couldn't wait to sign his contract - never even read
it. Then, as soon as he had gotten his first pay check he's in the
office bitching about his per diem or something. I used to say, "Hey!
That was all in the contract you signed - you want me to get it out
and we can read it together?"

As someone in the U.S. Embassy, Saigon, was reputed to have said, "If
it wasn't for you guys coming in here bitching this would be a pretty
good job."

Cheers,

Bruce
(bruceinbangkokatgmaildotcom)



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