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Spade Anchor question
On Tue, 29 Jun 2004 16:17:41 GMT, Cindy Ballreich
wrote: Lee, Tamaroak, and Wayne, Yes, I was hoping that Glenn would answer. We've got his web site bookmarked. How are you guys liking your Spades? What size did you get? Any problems with your bow roller? How's the reset with big wind shifts? We've seen the Practical Sailor tests and they're very impressive, but they're not exactly "real world" conditions. ============================================== I have the S100 which I bought as the primary anchor on a 22,000# flybridge sportfish (lots of windage). It replaced a 44# Delta Plow which had issues with setting and resetting. I regard the Spade as the best all around anchor I've ever owned. In two years of heavy use it never failed to set or reset regardless of bottom conditions. In very soft mud however, it needs some time to settle in before you back down on it. |
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Spade Anchor question
I sure appreciate all the kind words (mumble, shuffle, blush) and would
like to use them on my web site if it is OK. At the same time I would like some feedback on a few questions that have come up: How is the anchor riding on your roller? Did you have to make any modifications? How is the finish on the aluminum models holding up? Same for the yellow paint on all models? BTW, I have had two reports that 1-Shot sign painters paint matches perfectly and last longer. One thing I have had in the back of my mind for some time is the possibility of corrosion around the stainless bolt in the aluminum models. I have not had any reports of it but I have started adding a piece of heat shrink tube and nylon washers to isolate the bolt. Now the most important part: An incident in New Zealand has been reported in several sailing magazines that is causing some concern. It seems that the accident was blamed on the Nyloc nut on an S100 backing off allowing the bolt to fall out. I have done a lot of research into this accident and Nyloc nuts in general and just do not see how this is possible. The people at Spade can't figure out how it could happen either. There are a number of factors in the accident report that just do not add up. However, to be safe, I am drilling the bolts on 140s and 200s and adding a stainless cotter pin. The bolts on the 100s and 80s is to small for a pin. I would like for everyone to check their anchors. THe nut should be snug but not necessarily torqued down. If anyone finds one has backed off even a little please let me know. If you don't plan on disassembling the anchor, crimp the threads at the end just in case. If you don't want to do that please add the nut to things to check on your deck inspections. Also, Nyloc nuts should not be reused. If you need to take your anchor apart use a new nut. They are metric so if you can't find one, let me know and I will send you a couple at no charge. Again, I do not believe there is anything to it but I want everyone to be on the safe side. -- Glenn Ashmore I'm building a 45' cutter in strip/composite. Watch my progress (or lack there of) at: http://www.rutuonline.com Shameless Commercial Division: http://www.spade-anchor-us.com |
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Spade Anchor question
We have been somewhat dissapointed in our aluminum
Spade. Works as well as the Bruce in mud, but will not set reliably in sand, especially grass over sand. I dove down on it and poked the point into the bottom as far as I could, but when we drifted back on it it just flopped over and dragged along on its side. Had to switch to a CQR for grass/sand conditions. Spade (the company and reps) do not seem to be interested in giving any advice so we keep it as a spare, disassembled amnd in a locker. Doug s/v Callista "Cindy Ballreich" wrote in message ... Lee, Tamaroak, and Wayne, Yes, I was hoping that Glenn would answer. We've got his web site bookmarked. How are you guys liking your Spades? What size did you get? Any problems with your bow roller? How's the reset with big wind shifts? We've seen the Practical Sailor tests and they're very impressive, but they're not exactly "real world" conditions. Cindy Lee Huddleston wrote: BTW Cindy, Glenn Ashmore sells or at least used to sell Spade anchors, so he really knows of what he writes. I purchased a Spade from him and was very pleased with the price, advice, and the prompt service. |
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It rode fine on our roller. Yellow paint was gone within a week.
Doug s/v Callista "Glenn Ashmore" wrote in message news:sDzEc.37225$cj3.11922@lakeread01... I sure appreciate all the kind words (mumble, shuffle, blush) and would like to use them on my web site if it is OK. At the same time I would like some feedback on a few questions that have come up: How is the anchor riding on your roller? Did you have to make any modifications? How is the finish on the aluminum models holding up? Same for the yellow paint on all models? BTW, I have had two reports that 1-Shot sign painters paint matches perfectly and last longer. One thing I have had in the back of my mind for some time is the possibility of corrosion around the stainless bolt in the aluminum models. I have not had any reports of it but I have started adding a piece of heat shrink tube and nylon washers to isolate the bolt. Now the most important part: An incident in New Zealand has been reported in several sailing magazines that is causing some concern. It seems that the accident was blamed on the Nyloc nut on an S100 backing off allowing the bolt to fall out. I have done a lot of research into this accident and Nyloc nuts in general and just do not see how this is possible. The people at Spade can't figure out how it could happen either. There are a number of factors in the accident report that just do not add up. However, to be safe, I am drilling the bolts on 140s and 200s and adding a stainless cotter pin. The bolts on the 100s and 80s is to small for a pin. I would like for everyone to check their anchors. THe nut should be snug but not necessarily torqued down. If anyone finds one has backed off even a little please let me know. If you don't plan on disassembling the anchor, crimp the threads at the end just in case. If you don't want to do that please add the nut to things to check on your deck inspections. Also, Nyloc nuts should not be reused. If you need to take your anchor apart use a new nut. They are metric so if you can't find one, let me know and I will send you a couple at no charge. Again, I do not believe there is anything to it but I want everyone to be on the safe side. -- Glenn Ashmore I'm building a 45' cutter in strip/composite. Watch my progress (or lack there of) at: http://www.rutuonline.com Shameless Commercial Division: http://www.spade-anchor-us.com |
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Spade Anchor question
What size aluminum Spade do you have? How long/heavy is your boat. I'm
interested in going to an a spade. Paul www.jcruiser.org "Doug Dotson" wrote in message ... We have been somewhat dissapointed in our aluminum Spade. Works as well as the Bruce in mud, but will not set reliably in sand, especially grass over sand. I dove down on it and poked the point into the bottom as far as I could, but when we drifted back on it it just flopped over and dragged along on its side. Had to switch to a CQR for grass/sand conditions. Spade (the company and reps) do not seem to be interested in giving any advice so we keep it as a spare, disassembled amnd in a locker. Doug s/v Callista "Cindy Ballreich" wrote in message ... Lee, Tamaroak, and Wayne, Yes, I was hoping that Glenn would answer. We've got his web site bookmarked. How are you guys liking your Spades? What size did you get? Any problems with your bow roller? How's the reset with big wind shifts? We've seen the Practical Sailor tests and they're very impressive, but they're not exactly "real world" conditions. Cindy Lee Huddleston wrote: BTW Cindy, Glenn Ashmore sells or at least used to sell Spade anchors, so he really knows of what he writes. I purchased a Spade from him and was very pleased with the price, advice, and the prompt service. |
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Spade Anchor question
I think their site says that you should use the steel version, unless you
just have a problem with weight, at which point you should use the aluminum model. Who can afford the SS one! ;-) -- Keith __ Bad spellers of the world UNTIE! "Doug Dotson" wrote in message ... We have been somewhat dissapointed in our aluminum Spade. Works as well as the Bruce in mud, but will not set reliably in sand, especially grass over sand. I dove down on it and poked the point into the bottom as far as I could, but when we drifted back on it it just flopped over and dragged along on its side. Had to switch to a CQR for grass/sand conditions. Spade (the company and reps) do not seem to be interested in giving any advice so we keep it as a spare, disassembled amnd in a locker. Doug s/v Callista "Cindy Ballreich" wrote in message ... Lee, Tamaroak, and Wayne, Yes, I was hoping that Glenn would answer. We've got his web site bookmarked. How are you guys liking your Spades? What size did you get? Any problems with your bow roller? How's the reset with big wind shifts? We've seen the Practical Sailor tests and they're very impressive, but they're not exactly "real world" conditions. Cindy Lee Huddleston wrote: BTW Cindy, Glenn Ashmore sells or at least used to sell Spade anchors, so he really knows of what he writes. I purchased a Spade from him and was very pleased with the price, advice, and the prompt service. |
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Doug,
I am taking a steel and an aluminum 100 with me to the BVI for our charter at the end of the month and one reason is to study the problem you are having. (The other is to make it a "business expense".) :-) I will report back on my results. Glenn Doug Dotson wrote: We have been somewhat dissapointed in our aluminum Spade. Works as well as the Bruce in mud, but will not set reliably in sand, especially grass over sand. I dove down on it and poked the point into the bottom as far as I could, but when we drifted back on it it just flopped over and dragged along on its side. Had to switch to a CQR for grass/sand conditions. Spade (the company and reps) do not seem to be interested in giving any advice so we keep it as a spare, disassembled amnd in a locker. Doug s/v Callista "Cindy Ballreich" wrote in message ... Lee, Tamaroak, and Wayne, Yes, I was hoping that Glenn would answer. We've got his web site bookmarked. How are you guys liking your Spades? What size did you get? Any problems with your bow roller? How's the reset with big wind shifts? We've seen the Practical Sailor tests and they're very impressive, but they're not exactly "real world" conditions. Cindy Lee Huddleston wrote: BTW Cindy, Glenn Ashmore sells or at least used to sell Spade anchors, so he really knows of what he writes. I purchased a Spade from him and was very pleased with the price, advice, and the prompt service. -- Glenn Ashmore I'm building a 45' cutter in strip/composite. Watch my progress (or lack there of) at: http://www.rutuonline.com Shameless Commercial Division: http://www.spade-anchor-us.com |
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Spade Anchor question
On Wed, 30 Jun 2004 18:07:50 -0400, "Doug Dotson"
wrote: It rode fine on our roller. Yellow paint was gone within a week. =================================== Same here. |
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Spade Anchor question
On Wed, 30 Jun 2004 18:06:12 -0400, "Doug Dotson"
wrote: We have been somewhat dissapointed in our aluminum Spade. Works as well as the Bruce in mud, but will not set reliably in sand, especially grass over sand. ====================================== I'd guess that it's a weight issue since my 44# S100 has been very good in those conditions. I have a spare 44# delta plow if you'd like to negotiate... |
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Spade Anchor question
Glen,
I have an S-80 (bought from you) on my Morgan 30 and it rides beautifully on my roller. It replaced a much loved Delta and I was very pleased to find that I can use the roller's pin to hold it in place. The pin/holes would not line up with the hole on the Delta. I've only used the Spade for five nights anchoring but it has been great. I still have the yellow paint and I've had five easy sets and five restfull nights. What more can you ask for? Bill Adams Glenn Ashmore wrote: I sure appreciate all the kind words (mumble, shuffle, blush) and would like to use them on my web site if it is OK. At the same time I would like some feedback on a few questions that have come up: How is the anchor riding on your roller? Did you have to make any modifications? How is the finish on the aluminum models holding up? Same for the yellow paint on all models? BTW, I have had two reports that 1-Shot sign painters paint matches perfectly and last longer. |
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