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Wayne.B
 
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On Tue, 29 Jun 2004 16:17:41 GMT, Cindy Ballreich
wrote:
Lee, Tamaroak, and Wayne,

Yes, I was hoping that Glenn would answer. We've got his web site
bookmarked.

How are you guys liking your Spades? What size did you get? Any
problems with your bow roller? How's the reset with big wind
shifts? We've seen the Practical Sailor tests and they're very
impressive, but they're not exactly "real world" conditions.


==============================================

I have the S100 which I bought as the primary anchor on a 22,000#
flybridge sportfish (lots of windage). It replaced a 44# Delta Plow
which had issues with setting and resetting. I regard the Spade as
the best all around anchor I've ever owned. In two years of heavy use
it never failed to set or reset regardless of bottom conditions. In
very soft mud however, it needs some time to settle in before you back
down on it.

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Glenn Ashmore
 
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I sure appreciate all the kind words (mumble, shuffle, blush) and would
like to use them on my web site if it is OK.

At the same time I would like some feedback on a few questions that have
come up:

How is the anchor riding on your roller? Did you have to make any
modifications?
How is the finish on the aluminum models holding up? Same for the
yellow paint on all models? BTW, I have had two reports that 1-Shot
sign painters paint matches perfectly and last longer.

One thing I have had in the back of my mind for some time is the
possibility of corrosion around the stainless bolt in the aluminum
models. I have not had any reports of it but I have started adding a
piece of heat shrink tube and nylon washers to isolate the bolt.

Now the most important part: An incident in New Zealand has been
reported in several sailing magazines that is causing some concern. It
seems that the accident was blamed on the Nyloc nut on an S100 backing
off allowing the bolt to fall out. I have done a lot of research into
this accident and Nyloc nuts in general and just do not see how this is
possible. The people at Spade can't figure out how it could happen
either. There are a number of factors in the accident report that just
do not add up. However, to be safe, I am drilling the bolts on 140s and
200s and adding a stainless cotter pin. The bolts on the 100s and 80s is
to small for a pin.

I would like for everyone to check their anchors. THe nut should be
snug but not necessarily torqued down. If anyone finds one has backed
off even a little please let me know. If you don't plan on
disassembling the anchor, crimp the threads at the end just in case. If
you don't want to do that please add the nut to things to check on
your deck inspections.

Also, Nyloc nuts should not be reused. If you need to take your anchor
apart use a new nut. They are metric so if you can't find one, let me
know and I will send you a couple at no charge.

Again, I do not believe there is anything to it but I want everyone to
be on the safe side.

--
Glenn Ashmore

I'm building a 45' cutter in strip/composite. Watch my progress (or lack
there of) at: http://www.rutuonline.com
Shameless Commercial Division: http://www.spade-anchor-us.com

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Doug Dotson
 
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We have been somewhat dissapointed in our aluminum
Spade. Works as well as the Bruce in mud, but will not
set reliably in sand, especially grass over sand. I dove down
on it and poked the point into the bottom as far as I could, but
when we drifted back on it it just flopped over and dragged
along on its side. Had to switch to a CQR for grass/sand
conditions. Spade (the company and reps) do not seem to be
interested in giving any advice so we keep it as a spare,
disassembled amnd in a locker.

Doug
s/v Callista

"Cindy Ballreich" wrote in message
...
Lee, Tamaroak, and Wayne,

Yes, I was hoping that Glenn would answer. We've got his web site
bookmarked.

How are you guys liking your Spades? What size did you get? Any
problems with your bow roller? How's the reset with big wind
shifts? We've seen the Practical Sailor tests and they're very
impressive, but they're not exactly "real world" conditions.

Cindy

Lee Huddleston wrote:

BTW Cindy, Glenn Ashmore sells or at least used to sell Spade
anchors, so he really knows of what he writes. I purchased a Spade
from him and was very pleased with the price, advice, and the prompt
service.



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Doug Dotson
 
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It rode fine on our roller. Yellow paint was gone within a week.

Doug
s/v Callista

"Glenn Ashmore" wrote in message
news:sDzEc.37225$cj3.11922@lakeread01...
I sure appreciate all the kind words (mumble, shuffle, blush) and would
like to use them on my web site if it is OK.

At the same time I would like some feedback on a few questions that have
come up:

How is the anchor riding on your roller? Did you have to make any
modifications?
How is the finish on the aluminum models holding up? Same for the
yellow paint on all models? BTW, I have had two reports that 1-Shot
sign painters paint matches perfectly and last longer.

One thing I have had in the back of my mind for some time is the
possibility of corrosion around the stainless bolt in the aluminum
models. I have not had any reports of it but I have started adding a
piece of heat shrink tube and nylon washers to isolate the bolt.

Now the most important part: An incident in New Zealand has been
reported in several sailing magazines that is causing some concern. It
seems that the accident was blamed on the Nyloc nut on an S100 backing
off allowing the bolt to fall out. I have done a lot of research into
this accident and Nyloc nuts in general and just do not see how this is
possible. The people at Spade can't figure out how it could happen
either. There are a number of factors in the accident report that just
do not add up. However, to be safe, I am drilling the bolts on 140s and
200s and adding a stainless cotter pin. The bolts on the 100s and 80s is
to small for a pin.

I would like for everyone to check their anchors. THe nut should be
snug but not necessarily torqued down. If anyone finds one has backed
off even a little please let me know. If you don't plan on
disassembling the anchor, crimp the threads at the end just in case. If
you don't want to do that please add the nut to things to check on
your deck inspections.

Also, Nyloc nuts should not be reused. If you need to take your anchor
apart use a new nut. They are metric so if you can't find one, let me
know and I will send you a couple at no charge.

Again, I do not believe there is anything to it but I want everyone to
be on the safe side.

--
Glenn Ashmore

I'm building a 45' cutter in strip/composite. Watch my progress (or lack
there of) at: http://www.rutuonline.com
Shameless Commercial Division: http://www.spade-anchor-us.com



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Paul L
 
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What size aluminum Spade do you have? How long/heavy is your boat. I'm
interested in going to an a spade.

Paul
www.jcruiser.org
"Doug Dotson" wrote in message
...
We have been somewhat dissapointed in our aluminum
Spade. Works as well as the Bruce in mud, but will not
set reliably in sand, especially grass over sand. I dove down
on it and poked the point into the bottom as far as I could, but
when we drifted back on it it just flopped over and dragged
along on its side. Had to switch to a CQR for grass/sand
conditions. Spade (the company and reps) do not seem to be
interested in giving any advice so we keep it as a spare,
disassembled amnd in a locker.

Doug
s/v Callista

"Cindy Ballreich" wrote in message
...
Lee, Tamaroak, and Wayne,

Yes, I was hoping that Glenn would answer. We've got his web site
bookmarked.

How are you guys liking your Spades? What size did you get? Any
problems with your bow roller? How's the reset with big wind
shifts? We've seen the Practical Sailor tests and they're very
impressive, but they're not exactly "real world" conditions.

Cindy

Lee Huddleston wrote:

BTW Cindy, Glenn Ashmore sells or at least used to sell Spade
anchors, so he really knows of what he writes. I purchased a Spade
from him and was very pleased with the price, advice, and the prompt
service.







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Keith
 
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I think their site says that you should use the steel version, unless you
just have a problem with weight, at which point you should use the aluminum
model. Who can afford the SS one! ;-)

--


Keith
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"Doug Dotson" wrote in message
...
We have been somewhat dissapointed in our aluminum
Spade. Works as well as the Bruce in mud, but will not
set reliably in sand, especially grass over sand. I dove down
on it and poked the point into the bottom as far as I could, but
when we drifted back on it it just flopped over and dragged
along on its side. Had to switch to a CQR for grass/sand
conditions. Spade (the company and reps) do not seem to be
interested in giving any advice so we keep it as a spare,
disassembled amnd in a locker.

Doug
s/v Callista

"Cindy Ballreich" wrote in message
...
Lee, Tamaroak, and Wayne,

Yes, I was hoping that Glenn would answer. We've got his web site
bookmarked.

How are you guys liking your Spades? What size did you get? Any
problems with your bow roller? How's the reset with big wind
shifts? We've seen the Practical Sailor tests and they're very
impressive, but they're not exactly "real world" conditions.

Cindy

Lee Huddleston wrote:

BTW Cindy, Glenn Ashmore sells or at least used to sell Spade
anchors, so he really knows of what he writes. I purchased a Spade
from him and was very pleased with the price, advice, and the prompt
service.





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Glenn Ashmore
 
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Doug,

I am taking a steel and an aluminum 100 with me to the BVI for our
charter at the end of the month and one reason is to study the problem
you are having. (The other is to make it a "business expense".) :-) I
will report back on my results.

Glenn

Doug Dotson wrote:
We have been somewhat dissapointed in our aluminum
Spade. Works as well as the Bruce in mud, but will not
set reliably in sand, especially grass over sand. I dove down
on it and poked the point into the bottom as far as I could, but
when we drifted back on it it just flopped over and dragged
along on its side. Had to switch to a CQR for grass/sand
conditions. Spade (the company and reps) do not seem to be
interested in giving any advice so we keep it as a spare,
disassembled amnd in a locker.

Doug
s/v Callista

"Cindy Ballreich" wrote in message
...

Lee, Tamaroak, and Wayne,

Yes, I was hoping that Glenn would answer. We've got his web site
bookmarked.

How are you guys liking your Spades? What size did you get? Any
problems with your bow roller? How's the reset with big wind
shifts? We've seen the Practical Sailor tests and they're very
impressive, but they're not exactly "real world" conditions.

Cindy

Lee Huddleston wrote:

BTW Cindy, Glenn Ashmore sells or at least used to sell Spade
anchors, so he really knows of what he writes. I purchased a Spade
from him and was very pleased with the price, advice, and the prompt
service.





--
Glenn Ashmore

I'm building a 45' cutter in strip/composite. Watch my progress (or lack
there of) at: http://www.rutuonline.com
Shameless Commercial Division: http://www.spade-anchor-us.com

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Wayne.B
 
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On Wed, 30 Jun 2004 18:07:50 -0400, "Doug Dotson"
wrote:

It rode fine on our roller. Yellow paint was gone within a week.


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Same here.

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Wayne.B
 
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On Wed, 30 Jun 2004 18:06:12 -0400, "Doug Dotson"
wrote:
We have been somewhat dissapointed in our aluminum
Spade. Works as well as the Bruce in mud, but will not
set reliably in sand, especially grass over sand.


======================================

I'd guess that it's a weight issue since my 44# S100 has been very
good in those conditions.

I have a spare 44# delta plow if you'd like to negotiate...

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Bill Adams
 
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Glen,

I have an S-80 (bought from you) on my Morgan 30 and it rides
beautifully on my roller. It replaced a much loved Delta and I was very
pleased to find that I can use the roller's pin to hold it in place. The
pin/holes would not line up with the hole on the Delta.

I've only used the Spade for five nights anchoring but it has been
great. I still have the yellow paint and I've had five easy sets and
five restfull nights. What more can you ask for?

Bill Adams


Glenn Ashmore wrote:
I sure appreciate all the kind words (mumble, shuffle, blush) and would
like to use them on my web site if it is OK.

At the same time I would like some feedback on a few questions that have
come up:

How is the anchor riding on your roller? Did you have to make any
modifications?
How is the finish on the aluminum models holding up? Same for the
yellow paint on all models? BTW, I have had two reports that 1-Shot
sign painters paint matches perfectly and last longer.


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