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Gordon February 7th 09 06:46 PM

Offshore
 
What do you do with your anchor when going offshore for a week or two?
Gordon

Capt. JG February 7th 09 06:57 PM

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"Gordon" wrote in message
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What do you do with your anchor when going offshore for a week or two?
Gordon



Stow it.

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Two meter troll February 7th 09 07:10 PM

Offshore
 
On Feb 7, 10:46 am, Gordon wrote:
What do you do with your anchor when going offshore for a week or two?
Gordon


chain binder it down and put the deck shackle in the link. if it needs
some work i touch up the paint and do what is needed.
sometimes i drag out the chain and repaint the shots.

Edgar February 7th 09 08:01 PM

Offshore
 

"Gordon" wrote in message
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What do you do with your anchor when going offshore for a week or two?
Gordon


Mine is a Bruce anchor permanently stowed neatly on the bow roller with a
light line to stop it inadvertantly launching itself.
All the chain and the nylon rode is in the anchor locker on the foredeck.
Takes just a moment to have it ready to drop.



Capt. JG February 7th 09 09:39 PM

Offshore
 
"Edgar" wrote in message
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"Gordon" wrote in message
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What do you do with your anchor when going offshore for a week or two?
Gordon


Mine is a Bruce anchor permanently stowed neatly on the bow roller with a
light line to stop it inadvertantly launching itself.
All the chain and the nylon rode is in the anchor locker on the foredeck.
Takes just a moment to have it ready to drop.



Do you think you'll need it offshore? Not sure how big yours is... I have a
small Buce (great anchor, btw), and I even stow it on the bay if I know I'm
not going to be using it. I'm thinking about replacing the light line I use
with a more robust bracket. It can get wild and wooly in the slot.

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katy February 7th 09 10:55 PM

Offshore
 
Capt. JG wrote:
"Edgar" wrote in message
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"Gordon" wrote in message
m...
What do you do with your anchor when going offshore for a week or two?
Gordon

Mine is a Bruce anchor permanently stowed neatly on the bow roller with a
light line to stop it inadvertantly launching itself.
All the chain and the nylon rode is in the anchor locker on the foredeck.
Takes just a moment to have it ready to drop.



Do you think you'll need it offshore? Not sure how big yours is... I have a
small Buce (great anchor, btw), and I even stow it on the bay if I know I'm
not going to be using it. I'm thinking about replacing the light line I use
with a more robust bracket. It can get wild and wooly in the slot.



Use it for a drogue...

Capt. JG February 7th 09 11:49 PM

Offshore
 
"katy" wrote in message
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Capt. JG wrote:
"Edgar" wrote in message
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"Gordon" wrote in message
m...
What do you do with your anchor when going offshore for a week or
two?
Gordon
Mine is a Bruce anchor permanently stowed neatly on the bow roller with
a light line to stop it inadvertantly launching itself.
All the chain and the nylon rode is in the anchor locker on the
foredeck.
Takes just a moment to have it ready to drop.



Do you think you'll need it offshore? Not sure how big yours is... I have
a small Buce (great anchor, btw), and I even stow it on the bay if I know
I'm not going to be using it. I'm thinking about replacing the light line
I use with a more robust bracket. It can get wild and wooly in the slot.



Use it for a drogue...



Right... but, unless there's weather coming, I don't see the point of having
it potentially get loose.


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Larry February 8th 09 02:33 AM

Offshore
 
Gordon wrote in
m:

What do you do with your anchor when going offshore for a week or two?
Gordon


We take it with us.


Gordon February 8th 09 05:29 AM

Offshore
 
Larry wrote:
Gordon wrote in
m:

What do you do with your anchor when going offshore for a week or two?
Gordon


We take it with us.


Jeez Larry, that sounds like a Wilburrrr reply!!
g

Bob February 8th 09 07:49 AM

Offshore
 
On Feb 7, 10:46*am, Gordon wrote:
* *What do you do with your anchor when going offshore for a week or two?
* Gordon



I take my 45 lb cqr and put it below with my other ground takle. I
move my 300' 3/8 HT as low and aft as possible.
When there is no dirt around I dont have much use for the ground takle
besides my boat tends to hobby horse and nose around with all that
weight in the bow. I like a light bow...... or i should say, a
ballanced boat.

Good to see a boat question here again. There may be hope yet.
Bob

Edgar February 8th 09 10:20 AM

Offshore
 

"Capt. JG" wrote in message
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"Edgar" wrote in message
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"Gordon" wrote in message
m...
What do you do with your anchor when going offshore for a week or two?
Gordon


Mine is a Bruce anchor permanently stowed neatly on the bow roller with a
light line to stop it inadvertantly launching itself.
All the chain and the nylon rode is in the anchor locker on the foredeck.
Takes just a moment to have it ready to drop.



Do you think you'll need it offshore? Not sure how big yours is... I have
a small Buce (great anchor, btw), and I even stow it on the bay if I know
I'm not going to be using it. I'm thinking about replacing the light line
I use with a more robust bracket. It can get wild and wooly in the slot.


No, I surely will not need it offshore because here the depth can be 95
metres when you are only about a mile offshore so anchoring is out of the
question.
My main anchor is a 35lb Bruce with a length of 3/8 chain before the nylon
rode starts so it is not a lightweight affair.
It is secure and out of the way where it is and anyway it is a bit of a
pain to thread it inboard through the pulpit and past the Profurl roller
just to stick it into the anchore locker so I leave it where it is even now
while she is laid up. The flukes curl neatly around the prow and it just
seems the natural place for it. However I have had the nylon rode out on
deck and washed it off and dried it before putting it away for the winter.



Larry February 8th 09 04:49 PM

Offshore
 
Gordon wrote in
m:

Larry wrote:
Gordon wrote in
m:

What do you do with your anchor when going offshore for a week or
two?
Gordon


We take it with us.


Jeez Larry, that sounds like a Wilburrrr reply!!
g


I wasn't quite sure what to expect! You should never go around without
one. But, you knew that. I don't know anyone who just goes offshore for 2
weeks without stopping somewhere for some reason.....but I'm not a
fisherman.

Having all chain rode and a powerful electric windlass kinda makes it
getting loose a moot point.... That damned thing even picked up a tree the
anchor got caught in...no sweat.




Capt. JG February 8th 09 06:09 PM

Offshore
 
"Edgar" wrote in message
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"Capt. JG" wrote in message
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"Edgar" wrote in message
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"Gordon" wrote in message
m...
What do you do with your anchor when going offshore for a week or
two?
Gordon

Mine is a Bruce anchor permanently stowed neatly on the bow roller with
a light line to stop it inadvertantly launching itself.
All the chain and the nylon rode is in the anchor locker on the
foredeck.
Takes just a moment to have it ready to drop.



Do you think you'll need it offshore? Not sure how big yours is... I have
a small Buce (great anchor, btw), and I even stow it on the bay if I know
I'm not going to be using it. I'm thinking about replacing the light line
I use with a more robust bracket. It can get wild and wooly in the slot.


No, I surely will not need it offshore because here the depth can be 95
metres when you are only about a mile offshore so anchoring is out of the
question.
My main anchor is a 35lb Bruce with a length of 3/8 chain before the
nylon rode starts so it is not a lightweight affair.
It is secure and out of the way where it is and anyway it is a bit of a
pain to thread it inboard through the pulpit and past the Profurl roller
just to stick it into the anchore locker so I leave it where it is even
now while she is laid up. The flukes curl neatly around the prow and it
just seems the natural place for it. However I have had the nylon rode
out on deck and washed it off and dried it before putting it away for the
winter.


Mine is much small, so I have much less of a problem to get it around my
Schaefer furler, but I don't usually do that unless I know there's going to
be a lot of big chop in the bay. I'm trying to figure out a way to secure it
better. It's got a line around the roller and anchor, but it could still hop
off.

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Capt. JG February 8th 09 06:10 PM

Offshore
 
"Larry" wrote in message
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Gordon wrote in
m:

Larry wrote:
Gordon wrote in
m:

What do you do with your anchor when going offshore for a week or
two?
Gordon


We take it with us.


Jeez Larry, that sounds like a Wilburrrr reply!!
g


I wasn't quite sure what to expect! You should never go around without
one. But, you knew that. I don't know anyone who just goes offshore for
2
weeks without stopping somewhere for some reason.....but I'm not a
fisherman.

Having all chain rode and a powerful electric windlass kinda makes it
getting loose a moot point.... That damned thing even picked up a tree
the
anchor got caught in...no sweat.


You might be able to make a living hauling up trees if you can find the
right spot. Some of that lumber is quite valuable.

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[email protected] February 8th 09 06:18 PM

Offshore
 
Larry wrote:

Having all chain rode and a powerful electric windlass kinda makes it
getting loose a moot point...


If you're talking about getting it back aboard, maybe.
If you're talking about having the anchor & rode loose & flailing
against the hull, keel, & rudder, while underway offshore.... the
windlass ain't gonna help.

.... *That damned thing even picked up a tree the
anchor got caught in...no sweat.


So, you're in the Army Corps of Engineers Auxiliary? ;)
BTW thanks from all of us that use the ICW

Fresh Breezes- Doug King

You February 8th 09 07:00 PM

Offshore
 
In article ,
Gordon wrote:

What do you do with your anchor when going offshore for a week or two?
Gordon


connect it to a LOT of Chain/Line...... Duh....

Larry February 8th 09 11:35 PM

Offshore
 
"Capt. JG" wrote in
easolutions:

You might be able to make a living hauling up trees if you can find the
right spot. Some of that lumber is quite valuable.



The two huge lakes created by dams in the Great Depression covered over
huge uncut forests because they filled too quickly to get the timber out.
Today, the stumps of those trees are lurking just under the surface of the
lakes, great for fishing, disasterous for boaters. The valleys are where
you can boat as the trees weren't tall enough to reach the water's surface.

As the lakes filled, an effort was made to cut many forests to create
navigable waterways. These huge logs were simply chained to the bottom and
anchored in the ground. Of course, that was then...this is now and the
chains have all broken loose the waterlogged underwater MOVING logs that
roam the lakes attracted by spinning propellers and underwater propulsion
units as if they were all magnetized.

The lakes are no fun for boating for these reasons. It's a real shame,
too.


Richard Casady February 9th 09 04:42 PM

Offshore
 
On Sun, 08 Feb 2009 19:00:17 GMT, You wrote:

What do you do with your anchor when going offshore for a week or two?
Gordon


connect it to a LOT of Chain/Line...... Duh....


On the NW coast of the US 2 000 feet of wire is a common anchor rode.
Shallow water seems to be scarce. It isn't exactly stowed, it's all on
the drum of the winch.

Casady

Gordon February 9th 09 06:45 PM

Offshore
 
Richard Casady wrote:
On Sun, 08 Feb 2009 19:00:17 GMT, You wrote:

What do you do with your anchor when going offshore for a week or two?
Gordon

connect it to a LOT of Chain/Line...... Duh....


On the NW coast of the US 2 000 feet of wire is a common anchor rode.
Shallow water seems to be scarce. It isn't exactly stowed, it's all on
the drum of the winch.

Casady



Me thinks someone doth pull your leg!
G

Richard Casady February 9th 09 08:27 PM

Offshore
 
On Mon, 09 Feb 2009 18:45:38 +0000, Gordon wrote:

Richard Casady wrote:
On Sun, 08 Feb 2009 19:00:17 GMT, You wrote:

What do you do with your anchor when going offshore for a week or two?
Gordon
connect it to a LOT of Chain/Line...... Duh....


On the NW coast of the US 2 000 feet of wire is a common anchor rode.
Shallow water seems to be scarce. It isn't exactly stowed, it's all on
the drum of the winch.

Casady



Boating magazine. Picture of a big spool of wire. on a foredeck.That
much 3/8 would weigh 600 lbs, not out of the question with a 40 ft or
bigger boat. How deep do you think fjords are? You can carry a couple
of thousand miles of good sized cable on a ship, but they don't anchor
with it.

Casady

Gordon February 9th 09 11:33 PM

Offshore
 
Richard Casady wrote:
On Mon, 09 Feb 2009 18:45:38 +0000, Gordon wrote:

Richard Casady wrote:
On Sun, 08 Feb 2009 19:00:17 GMT, You wrote:

What do you do with your anchor when going offshore for a week or two?
Gordon
connect it to a LOT of Chain/Line...... Duh....
On the NW coast of the US 2 000 feet of wire is a common anchor rode.
Shallow water seems to be scarce. It isn't exactly stowed, it's all on
the drum of the winch.

Casady


Boating magazine. Picture of a big spool of wire. on a foredeck.That
much 3/8 would weigh 600 lbs, not out of the question with a 40 ft or
bigger boat. How deep do you think fjords are? You can carry a couple
of thousand miles of good sized cable on a ship, but they don't anchor
with it.

Casady


This was on a sailboat? Sometimes sailboats have spools on the stern
with lots of line to tie to shore. Never on the bow.
If it was a fishing boat, you might have seen a gillnet drum or if it
was a longliner for halibut, black cod, or sable fish there could be a
drum with wire rope up to a couple miles long. Or a geoduck boat may
have a spool of chain because they anchor in currents but only up to 60
ft. But normal anchoring? No way.
Yes we have some deep water but there are also lots of good anchorages.
The tidal currents can run very strong here also and with a good blow,
you'd need a hell of a scope to hold in deep water.
Gordon

Richard Casady February 10th 09 03:23 AM

Offshore
 
On Mon, 09 Feb 2009 23:33:26 +0000, Gordon wrote:

Richard Casady wrote:
On Mon, 09 Feb 2009 18:45:38 +0000, Gordon wrote:

Richard Casady wrote:
On Sun, 08 Feb 2009 19:00:17 GMT, You wrote:

What do you do with your anchor when going offshore for a week or two?
Gordon
connect it to a LOT of Chain/Line...... Duh....
On the NW coast of the US 2 000 feet of wire is a common anchor rode.
Shallow water seems to be scarce. It isn't exactly stowed, it's all on
the drum of the winch.

Casady

Boating magazine. Picture of a big spool of wire. on a foredeck.That
much 3/8 would weigh 600 lbs, not out of the question with a 40 ft or
bigger boat. How deep do you think fjords are? You can carry a couple
of thousand miles of good sized cable on a ship, but they don't anchor
with it.

Casady


This was on a sailboat? Sometimes sailboats have spools on the stern
with lots of line to tie to shore. Never on the bow.


A powerboat with with a naked deck, no stay or sail.
If it was a fishing boat, you might have seen a gillnet drum or if it
was a longliner for halibut, black cod, or sable fish there could be a
drum with wire rope up to a couple miles long.


That's not a longline. Those are forty to fifty miles long. Generally
700 lb mono. Looks like weed whacker string. You see the movie
Perfect Storm? The lady who was captain of Brown's other boat, the
Hannah Boden, wrote a book that describes longlining for swordfish in
detail.

Or a geoduck boat may
have a spool of chain because they anchor in currents but only up to 60
ft. But normal anchoring? No way.
Yes we have some deep water but there are also lots of good anchorages.



The tidal currents can run very strong here also and with a good blow,
you'd need a hell of a scope to hold in deep water.


That is why so much wire. Six to one scope in 330 ft of water takes a
2000 foot rode.


Gordon February 10th 09 05:09 AM

Offshore
 
Richard Casady wrote:
On Mon, 09 Feb 2009 23:33:26 +0000, Gordon wrote:

Richard Casady wrote:
On Mon, 09 Feb 2009 18:45:38 +0000, Gordon wrote:

Richard Casady wrote:
On Sun, 08 Feb 2009 19:00:17 GMT, You wrote:

What do you do with your anchor when going offshore for a week or two?
Gordon
connect it to a LOT of Chain/Line...... Duh....
On the NW coast of the US 2 000 feet of wire is a common anchor rode.
Shallow water seems to be scarce. It isn't exactly stowed, it's all on
the drum of the winch.

Casady
Boating magazine. Picture of a big spool of wire. on a foredeck.That
much 3/8 would weigh 600 lbs, not out of the question with a 40 ft or
bigger boat. How deep do you think fjords are? You can carry a couple
of thousand miles of good sized cable on a ship, but they don't anchor
with it.

Casady

This was on a sailboat? Sometimes sailboats have spools on the stern
with lots of line to tie to shore. Never on the bow.


A powerboat with with a naked deck, no stay or sail.
If it was a fishing boat, you might have seen a gillnet drum or if it
was a longliner for halibut, black cod, or sable fish there could be a
drum with wire rope up to a couple miles long.


That's not a longline. Those are forty to fifty miles long. Generally
700 lb mono. Looks like weed whacker string. You see the movie
Perfect Storm? The lady who was captain of Brown's other boat, the
Hannah Boden, wrote a book that describes longlining for swordfish in
detail.


I don't know about swordfishing but the regs control the number of
sets on a longline for the fishing I described. The lines are seldom
over a mile long.
Gordon

Richard Casady February 10th 09 02:27 PM

Offshore
 
On Sun, 08 Feb 2009 23:35:53 +0000, Larry wrote:

the stumps of those trees are lurking just under the surface of the
lakes, great for fishing, disasterous for boaters.


There are a couple of flood control lakes near Des Moines. They have
fields of standing timber, sometimes just under the surface. I was
boating on one with my 22 foot sterndrive, when a guy I let drive
headed for a marker at high speed while I was in the cuddy fetching
something. He put the prop in a tree trying to read the inch high
letters that said keep back three hundred feet. I wanted to kill him
and an unknown guy at the DNR. My family has had one of the very first
jet boats since the fifties, on a lake where nobody ever ventures into
shallow water, unless launching off a beach. Should of had it that
day. Someone told me you need three props to boat the artificial
lakes, one on the engine, a spare, and one in the shop getting
repaired.

Casady

Richard Casady February 10th 09 04:12 PM

Offshore
 
On Tue, 10 Feb 2009 05:09:12 +0000, Gordon wrote:

That's not a longline. Those are forty to fifty miles long. Generally
700 lb mono. Looks like weed whacker string. You see the movie
Perfect Storm? The lady who was captain of Brown's other boat, the
Hannah Boden, wrote a book that describes longlining for swordfish in
detail.


I don't know about swordfishing but the regs control the number of
sets on a longline for the fishing I described. The lines are seldom
over a mile long.
Gordon


That isn't really long, but I don't know what else you could call it.
You say they use wire. The weight would be an advantage. The idea is
to suspend the main line deeper than boxboat screws, a problem in the
Atlantic. Undoubtedly less of a problem in the fishery you refer to.

Casady

Gordon February 10th 09 05:26 PM

Offshore
 
Richard Casady wrote:
On Tue, 10 Feb 2009 05:09:12 +0000, Gordon wrote:

That's not a longline. Those are forty to fifty miles long. Generally
700 lb mono. Looks like weed whacker string. You see the movie
Perfect Storm? The lady who was captain of Brown's other boat, the
Hannah Boden, wrote a book that describes longlining for swordfish in
detail.

I don't know about swordfishing but the regs control the number of
sets on a longline for the fishing I described. The lines are seldom
over a mile long.
Gordon


That isn't really long, but I don't know what else you could call it.
You say they use wire. The weight would be an advantage. The idea is
to suspend the main line deeper than boxboat screws, a problem in the
Atlantic. Undoubtedly less of a problem in the fishery you refer to.

Casady


This is bottom fishing.
G

Richard Casady February 10th 09 07:00 PM

Offshore
 
On Tue, 10 Feb 2009 17:26:10 +0000, Gordon wrote:

Richard Casady wrote:
On Tue, 10 Feb 2009 05:09:12 +0000, Gordon wrote:

That's not a longline. Those are forty to fifty miles long. Generally
700 lb mono. Looks like weed whacker string. You see the movie
Perfect Storm? The lady who was captain of Brown's other boat, the
Hannah Boden, wrote a book that describes longlining for swordfish in
detail.

I don't know about swordfishing but the regs control the number of
sets on a longline for the fishing I described. The lines are seldom
over a mile long.
Gordon


That isn't really long, but I don't know what else you could call it.
You say they use wire. The weight would be an advantage. The idea is
to suspend the main line deeper than boxboat screws, a problem in the
Atlantic. Undoubtedly less of a problem in the fishery you refer to.

Casady


This is bottom fishing.


In Iowa we have the trotline,a hundred feet long with fifty hooks.
Stretch it across a river, after catfish. Sort of HO scale longlining.

Edgar February 10th 09 09:25 PM

Offshore
 

"Richard Casady" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 10 Feb 2009 05:09:12 +0000, Gordon wrote:

That's not a longline. Those are forty to fifty miles long. Generally
700 lb mono. Looks like weed whacker string. You see the movie
Perfect Storm? The lady who was captain of Brown's other boat, the
Hannah Boden, wrote a book that describes longlining for swordfish in
detail.


I don't know about swordfishing but the regs control the number of
sets on a longline for the fishing I described. The lines are seldom
over a mile long.
Gordon


That isn't really long, but I don't know what else you could call it.
You say they use wire. The weight would be an advantage. The idea is
to suspend the main line deeper than boxboat screws, a problem in the
Atlantic. Undoubtedly less of a problem in the fishery you refer to.

Casady


Deeper is better so they will not kill so many albatrosses



~^ beancounter ~^ February 10th 09 10:25 PM

Offshore
 
i put it away in the locker....


On Feb 7, 11:46*am, Gordon wrote:
* *What do you do with your anchor when going offshore for a week or two?
* Gordon




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