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Capt. JG January 29th 09 09:12 PM

New VHF
 
Just picked up my new handheld.. HX850S. Very cool - DSC/GPS/6-watts.
Registed the MMSI number.

Now I have three handhelds, that one plus the HX350S and HX270S.... all
submersible.

http://picasaweb.google.com/SailNOW....20498028943010

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[email protected] January 29th 09 10:33 PM

New VHF
 
On Thu, 29 Jan 2009 13:12:06 -0800, "Capt. JG"
wrote:

Just picked up my new handheld.. HX850S. Very cool - DSC/GPS/6-watts.
Registed the MMSI number.

Now I have three handhelds, that one plus the HX350S and HX270S.... all
submersible.

http://picasaweb.google.com/SailNOW....20498028943010


You'll find that if you try to use them under water, no one will be
able to make out what you are saying. :)


Capt. JG January 29th 09 10:43 PM

New VHF
 
wrote in message
...
On Thu, 29 Jan 2009 13:12:06 -0800, "Capt. JG"
wrote:

Just picked up my new handheld.. HX850S. Very cool - DSC/GPS/6-watts.
Registed the MMSI number.

Now I have three handhelds, that one plus the HX350S and HX270S.... all
submersible.

http://picasaweb.google.com/SailNOW....20498028943010


You'll find that if you try to use them under water, no one will be
able to make out what you are saying. :)



Brillco, blobrruboub...

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Marty[_2_] January 30th 09 02:20 AM

New VHF
 
Freddie Mercury wrote:
On Thu, 29 Jan 2009 17:33:00 -0500, wrote:

On Thu, 29 Jan 2009 13:12:06 -0800, "Capt. JG"
wrote:

Just picked up my new handheld.. HX850S. Very cool - DSC/GPS/6-watts.
Registed the MMSI number.

Now I have three handhelds, that one plus the HX350S and HX270S.... all
submersible.

http://picasaweb.google.com/SailNOW....20498028943010
You'll find that if you try to use them under water, no one will be
able to make out what you are saying. :)


That's not the point. He likes dropping them in the hot tub at the
bath house and then reaching down for them along with all the other
guys.


Really Fred, you sound very knowledgeable about bath houses. Tell me,
does this sort of thing occur often in them?

Cheers
Martin

Capt. JG January 30th 09 07:33 AM

New VHF
 
"Marty" wrote in message
...
Freddie Mercury wrote:
On Thu, 29 Jan 2009 17:33:00 -0500, wrote:

On Thu, 29 Jan 2009 13:12:06 -0800, "Capt. JG"
wrote:

Just picked up my new handheld.. HX850S. Very cool - DSC/GPS/6-watts.
Registed the MMSI number.

Now I have three handhelds, that one plus the HX350S and HX270S.... all
submersible.

http://picasaweb.google.com/SailNOW....20498028943010
You'll find that if you try to use them under water, no one will be
able to make out what you are saying. :)


That's not the point. He likes dropping them in the hot tub at the
bath house and then reaching down for them along with all the other
guys.


Really Fred, you sound very knowledgeable about bath houses. Tell me, does
this sort of thing occur often in them?

Cheers
Martin



Now that's funny.


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Edgar January 30th 09 10:26 AM

New VHF
 

"Capt. JG" wrote in message
tions...
Just picked up my new handheld.. HX850S. Very cool - DSC/GPS/6-watts.
Registed the MMSI number.

Now I have three handhelds, that one plus the HX350S and HX270S.... all
submersible.

http://picasaweb.google.com/SailNOW....20498028943010


Don't you have a fixed one at all? It can give you more than 6 watts output
you get from those handheld ones and if you also have a fixed chartplotter
in the boat they can be linked so that the VHF can send out a distress call
including your boat's id and exact location at a press of a button. If the
boom knocks you overboard unconscious with the handheld in your pocket how
are your crew going to call for help? I have no problem with a hand held
one for a backup but would not have one or even two as my main sets.

I was interested in the seacock diagram on your site. Ignoring the cockpit
drains and exhaust outlet which are above the water line why are all the
underwater ones marked 'open' except for the head outtake? Surely all
underwate thruhulls should be shut when the boat is unattended? Any one of
them can sink the boat if the hose comes off.
I have a notice, encapsulated in plastic, on my boat, kept where nobody can
miss seeing it. It gives the location of all seacocks and makes it clear
that all are shut when the boat is left unattended (except for short trips
ashore)



Capt. JG January 30th 09 06:46 PM

New VHF
 
"Edgar" wrote in message
...

"Capt. JG" wrote in message
tions...
Just picked up my new handheld.. HX850S. Very cool - DSC/GPS/6-watts.
Registed the MMSI number.

Now I have three handhelds, that one plus the HX350S and HX270S.... all
submersible.

http://picasaweb.google.com/SailNOW....20498028943010


Don't you have a fixed one at all? It can give you more than 6 watts
output you get from those handheld ones and if you also have a fixed
chartplotter in the boat they can be linked so that the VHF can send out a
distress call including your boat's id and exact location at a press of a
button. If the boom knocks you overboard unconscious with the handheld in
your pocket how are your crew going to call for help? I have no problem
with a hand held one for a backup but would not have one or even two as my
main sets.

I was interested in the seacock diagram on your site. Ignoring the cockpit
drains and exhaust outlet which are above the water line why are all the
underwater ones marked 'open' except for the head outtake? Surely all
underwate thruhulls should be shut when the boat is unattended? Any one
of them can sink the boat if the hose comes off.
I have a notice, encapsulated in plastic, on my boat, kept where nobody
can miss seeing it. It gives the location of all seacocks and makes it
clear that all are shut when the boat is left unattended (except for
short trips ashore)



All great questions....

I do have a fixed VHF aboard. It's an old ICOM, which works fine. It's on my
list for 2010 to replace with a DSC-enabled. Since the boat is so small (30)
and I rarely go offshore, even more rarely overnight (unless anchored), and
almost always have more than just one person up top, I'm not concerned about
being AWOL without someone noticing.

I don't have a chartplotter (and an AIS), sadly. It's not in my budget until
2011 at least.

The 850 is my primary backup... I will be carrying it in my foulie pocket.
That's what I did with the 350, which will now be my secondary backup below.
The 270 is for the dinghy, should I need that and don't want to take either
of the other two (probably, I would take the 350, since it has better
battery life).

The ones marked open are when I'm there. Specifically, the head intake, the
sinks, the raw water.... They're closed normally when I'm not there (except
as you put it for short trips). I have them marked open, since I do this
before we leave the dock, and this is for customer/passenger orientation. I
keep a similar plastic-enclosed sheet in my orientation book, which is
revealed before we leave the dock. I have an emergency check-off list
displayed, but there's no reasonable place to put all the boat orientation
documents without papering the walls with them.

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com




Marty[_2_] January 30th 09 10:11 PM

New VHF
 
Capt. JG wrote:

I don't have a chartplotter (and an AIS), sadly. It's not in my budget until
2011 at least.



You've got a laptop; there's no reason not to have a chartplotter.

You can get Bluetooth GPS puck, or even a USB puck for about 40 bucks,
SeaClear II is free, raster charts (BSB) are free from NOAA.

I have an articulated monitor arm bolted to the inside of the aft saloon
bulkhead beside the companionway that lets me extend a slave LCD display
into the companionway visible from the cockpit. I also I a Bluetooth
trackball that I can use from the cockpit, so the lap stays inside high
and dry. If things start to get wet it's simple to push the slave screen
back into the cockpit out of the weather.

Cheers
Martin

Capt. JG January 30th 09 10:22 PM

New VHF
 
"Marty" wrote in message
...
Capt. JG wrote:

I don't have a chartplotter (and an AIS), sadly. It's not in my budget
until 2011 at least.



You've got a laptop; there's no reason not to have a chartplotter.

You can get Bluetooth GPS puck, or even a USB puck for about 40 bucks,
SeaClear II is free, raster charts (BSB) are free from NOAA.

I have an articulated monitor arm bolted to the inside of the aft saloon
bulkhead beside the companionway that lets me extend a slave LCD display
into the companionway visible from the cockpit. I also I a Bluetooth
trackball that I can use from the cockpit, so the lap stays inside high
and dry. If things start to get wet it's simple to push the slave screen
back into the cockpit out of the weather.

Cheers
Martin



I know, I know. I have a laptop, but it's a beast... 17" monitor, which I
use for work-stuff and another laptop, also for work. I would actually have
to buy another laptop, which would put me in the techno-geek-nerd category
(well, higher up in the category). (I also have three base systems, one of
which is a Mac.)

I already have SeaClear on the 17" laptop, along with a bunch of rasters.
I'm just loath to haul it around and can't leave it on the boat.


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"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com




Wilbur Hubbard[_2_] January 30th 09 10:27 PM

New VHF (Do you have a VHF broadcast license)
 

"Capt. JG" wrote in message
tions...
Just picked up my new handheld.. HX850S. Very cool - DSC/GPS/6-watts.
Registed the MMSI number.

Now I have three handhelds, that one plus the HX350S and HX270S.... all
submersible.

http://picasaweb.google.com/SailNOW....20498028943010

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com




I bet he doesn't have a license for them.


Wilbur Hubbard



Marty[_2_] January 30th 09 11:43 PM

New VHF
 
Capt. JG wrote:
"Marty" wrote in message
...
Capt. JG wrote:
I don't have a chartplotter (and an AIS), sadly. It's not in my budget
until 2011 at least.


You've got a laptop; there's no reason not to have a chartplotter.

You can get Bluetooth GPS puck, or even a USB puck for about 40 bucks,
SeaClear II is free, raster charts (BSB) are free from NOAA.

I have an articulated monitor arm bolted to the inside of the aft saloon
bulkhead beside the companionway that lets me extend a slave LCD display
into the companionway visible from the cockpit. I also I a Bluetooth
trackball that I can use from the cockpit, so the lap stays inside high
and dry. If things start to get wet it's simple to push the slave screen
back into the cockpit out of the weather.

Cheers
Martin



I know, I know. I have a laptop, but it's a beast... 17" monitor, which I
use for work-stuff and another laptop, also for work. I would actually have
to buy another laptop, which would put me in the techno-geek-nerd category
(well, higher up in the category). (I also have three base systems, one of
which is a Mac.)

I already have SeaClear on the 17" laptop, along with a bunch of rasters.
I'm just loath to haul it around and can't leave it on the boat.



Something wrong with being a techno-geek-nerd? Thank God for Obama,
maybe it'll be good to be smart rather than a close minded jerk who
thinks pro wrestling is real.

I've got much the same, less the Mac. I haul one of my laptops around
all the time, that's the idea behind them, portability, computing
anywhere.... I'm really bad, I have a good enough antenna system on my
wireless router that I can get a connection in the boat before I get to
my dock... gotta love it.

Remember, the next time you think you're a techno geek, Ham operators
make us look normal...

Cheers
Martin

Marty[_2_] January 30th 09 11:45 PM

New VHF (Do you have a VHF broadcast license)
 
Wilbur Hubbard wrote:
"Capt. JG" wrote in message
tions...
Just picked up my new handheld.. HX850S. Very cool - DSC/GPS/6-watts.
Registed the MMSI number.

Now I have three handhelds, that one plus the HX350S and HX270S.... all
submersible.

http://picasaweb.google.com/SailNOW....20498028943010

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com




I bet he doesn't have a license for them.


I'll bet not also, but, I suspect my doubts are for different reasons
than yours.

Cheers
Martin

Capt. JG January 31st 09 12:01 AM

New VHF
 
"Marty" wrote in message
...
Capt. JG wrote:
"Marty" wrote in message
...
Capt. JG wrote:
I don't have a chartplotter (and an AIS), sadly. It's not in my budget
until 2011 at least.

You've got a laptop; there's no reason not to have a chartplotter.

You can get Bluetooth GPS puck, or even a USB puck for about 40 bucks,
SeaClear II is free, raster charts (BSB) are free from NOAA.

I have an articulated monitor arm bolted to the inside of the aft saloon
bulkhead beside the companionway that lets me extend a slave LCD display
into the companionway visible from the cockpit. I also I a Bluetooth
trackball that I can use from the cockpit, so the lap stays inside high
and dry. If things start to get wet it's simple to push the slave screen
back into the cockpit out of the weather.

Cheers
Martin



I know, I know. I have a laptop, but it's a beast... 17" monitor, which I
use for work-stuff and another laptop, also for work. I would actually
have to buy another laptop, which would put me in the techno-geek-nerd
category (well, higher up in the category). (I also have three base
systems, one of which is a Mac.)

I already have SeaClear on the 17" laptop, along with a bunch of rasters.
I'm just loath to haul it around and can't leave it on the boat.



Something wrong with being a techno-geek-nerd? Thank God for Obama, maybe
it'll be good to be smart rather than a close minded jerk who thinks pro
wrestling is real.

I've got much the same, less the Mac. I haul one of my laptops around all
the time, that's the idea behind them, portability, computing anywhere....
I'm really bad, I have a good enough antenna system on my wireless router
that I can get a connection in the boat before I get to my dock... gotta
love it.

Remember, the next time you think you're a techno geek, Ham operators
make us look normal...

Cheers
Martin



I've been thinking about getting a HAM... no time lately. It looks pretty
simple, especially since they've dropped the morse requirements.

I'm going to get an iPhone or a Crackberry in the next month or so (probably
iPhone). Do you know if something similar is available for either of those?
That would be cool.

Yeah, Obama insisted they let him use the Blackberry... the White House was,
apparently, stuck in the dark ages for the last eight.


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www.sailnow.com




Capt. JG January 31st 09 12:03 AM

New VHF (Do you have a VHF broadcast license)
 
"Marty" wrote in message
...
Wilbur Hubbard wrote:
"Capt. JG" wrote in message
tions...
Just picked up my new handheld.. HX850S. Very cool - DSC/GPS/6-watts.
Registed the MMSI number.

Now I have three handhelds, that one plus the HX350S and HX270S.... all
submersible.

http://picasaweb.google.com/SailNOW....20498028943010

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com




I bet he doesn't have a license for them.


I'll bet not also, but, I suspect my doubts are for different reasons than
yours.

Cheers
Martin



Neal is a stalker, not too bright, and without any money, so I wouldn't take
the bet if I were you.


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"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com




Wayne.B January 31st 09 01:21 AM

New VHF
 
On Fri, 30 Jan 2009 10:46:22 -0800, "Capt. JG"
wrote:

I don't have a chartplotter (and an AIS), sadly. It's not in my budget until
2011 at least.


If you own a laptop computer you already have a chart plotter with AIS
capability. The software, Seaclear II, is basically free, as are the
electronic charts. Just add an inexpensive GPS with a data cable and
an inexpensive AIS receiver.

Brian Whatcott January 31st 09 02:23 AM

New VHF
 
Capt. JG wrote:
....
I've been thinking about getting a HAM... no time lately. It looks pretty
simple, especially since they've dropped the morse requirements....


A ham test prep book: a little application with the practice tests
on-line and you are good to go. You CAN rip through several tests on a
test day - to hop from Technician to Extra in one bound.

Brian W

Capt. JG January 31st 09 06:11 AM

New VHF
 
"Brian Whatcott" wrote in message
...
Capt. JG wrote:
...
I've been thinking about getting a HAM... no time lately. It looks pretty
simple, especially since they've dropped the morse requirements....


A ham test prep book: a little application with the practice tests on-line
and you are good to go. You CAN rip through several tests on a test day -
to hop from Technician to Extra in one bound.

Brian W



Last I looked it seemed straight up.

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Capt. JG January 31st 09 06:11 AM

New VHF
 
"Wayne.B" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 30 Jan 2009 10:46:22 -0800, "Capt. JG"
wrote:

I don't have a chartplotter (and an AIS), sadly. It's not in my budget
until
2011 at least.


If you own a laptop computer you already have a chart plotter with AIS
capability. The software, Seaclear II, is basically free, as are the
electronic charts. Just add an inexpensive GPS with a data cable and
an inexpensive AIS receiver.



Yeah, see my response to Marty...

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www.sailnow.com




Wilbur Hubbard[_2_] January 31st 09 01:34 PM

New VHF (Do you have a VHF broadcast license)
 

"Marty" wrote in message
...
Wilbur Hubbard wrote:
"Capt. JG" wrote in message
tions...
Just picked up my new handheld.. HX850S. Very cool - DSC/GPS/6-watts.
Registed the MMSI number.

Now I have three handhelds, that one plus the HX350S and HX270S.... all
submersible.

http://picasaweb.google.com/SailNOW....20498028943010

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com




I bet he doesn't have a license for them.


I'll bet not also, but, I suspect my doubts are for different reasons than
yours.

Cheers
Martin



He claims to sail to Baja from time to time. If he travels internationally
he is required by law to have them licensed. I doubt he has them licensed
because he has always had a shirklaw attitude. Typical liberal. The laws
exist for *other* people only.

Wilbur Hubbard




Boeland January 31st 09 01:54 PM

New VHF
 
Brian Whatcott wrote:
Capt. JG wrote:
....
I've been thinking about getting a HAM... no time lately. It looks
pretty simple, especially since they've dropped the morse
requirements....


A ham test prep book: a little application with the practice tests
on-line and you are good to go. You CAN rip through several tests on a
test day - to hop from Technician to Extra in one bound.

Brian W

Are you referring to Ham TestOnline http://www.hamtestonline.com/ or to
a different one?

Edgar January 31st 09 04:06 PM

New VHF
 

"Capt. JG" wrote in message
ons...
"Edgar" wrote in message
...

"Capt. JG" wrote in message
tions...
Just picked up my new handheld.. HX850S. Very cool - DSC/GPS/6-watts.
Registed the MMSI number.

Now I have three handhelds, that one plus the HX350S and HX270S.... all
submersible.

http://picasaweb.google.com/SailNOW....20498028943010


Don't you have a fixed one at all? It can give you more than 6 watts
output you get from those handheld ones and if you also have a fixed
chartplotter in the boat they can be linked so that the VHF can send out
a distress call including your boat's id and exact location at a press
of a button. If the boom knocks you overboard unconscious with the
handheld in your pocket how are your crew going to call for help? I have
no problem with a hand held one for a backup but would not have one or
even two as my main sets.

I was interested in the seacock diagram on your site. Ignoring the
cockpit drains and exhaust outlet which are above the water line why are
all the underwater ones marked 'open' except for the head outtake?
Surely all underwate thruhulls should be shut when the boat is
unattended? Any one of them can sink the boat if the hose comes off.
I have a notice, encapsulated in plastic, on my boat, kept where nobody
can miss seeing it. It gives the location of all seacocks and makes it
clear that all are shut when the boat is left unattended (except for
short trips ashore)



All great questions....

I do have a fixed VHF aboard. It's an old ICOM, which works fine. It's on
my list for 2010 to replace with a DSC-enabled. Since the boat is so small
(30) and I rarely go offshore, even more rarely overnight (unless
anchored), and almost always have more than just one person up top, I'm
not concerned about being AWOL without someone noticing.

I don't have a chartplotter (and an AIS), sadly. It's not in my budget
until 2011 at least.

The 850 is my primary backup... I will be carrying it in my foulie pocket.
That's what I did with the 350, which will now be my secondary backup
below. The 270 is for the dinghy, should I need that and don't want to
take either of the other two (probably, I would take the 350, since it has
better battery life).

The ones marked open are when I'm there. Specifically, the head intake,
the sinks, the raw water.... They're closed normally when I'm not there
(except as you put it for short trips). I have them marked open, since I
do this before we leave the dock, and this is for customer/passenger
orientation. I keep a similar plastic-enclosed sheet in my orientation
book, which is revealed before we leave the dock. I have an emergency
check-off list displayed, but there's no reasonable place to put all the
boat orientation documents without papering the walls with them.

I think you should reconsider the head intake. The intake valve on the
head itself is obviously configured to let water in and therefore if you
leave it open when the boat may be heeled while sailing there is a strong
possibility of flooding, especially if the head is installed near the
waterline. On the other hand the head valve on the outlet is configured to
let stuff out and will block any water trying to come back in. Therefore,
although it may be a bigger looking pipe this is not the one you really have
to worry about, although this does not mean you should leave it open when
you quit the boat.



Capt. JG January 31st 09 06:07 PM

New VHF
 
"Boeland" wrote in message
...
Brian Whatcott wrote:
Capt. JG wrote:
....
I've been thinking about getting a HAM... no time lately. It looks
pretty simple, especially since they've dropped the morse
requirements....


A ham test prep book: a little application with the practice tests
on-line and you are good to go. You CAN rip through several tests on a
test day - to hop from Technician to Extra in one bound.

Brian W

Are you referring to Ham TestOnline http://www.hamtestonline.com/ or to a
different one?



I did the free series a while ago... easy.

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"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com




Capt. JG January 31st 09 06:09 PM

New VHF
 
"Dave" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 30 Jan 2009 14:22:12 -0800, "Capt. JG"
said:

I know, I know. I have a laptop, but it's a beast... 17" monitor, which I
use for work-stuff and another laptop, also for work. I would actually
have
to buy another laptop, which would put me in the techno-geek-nerd category
(well, higher up in the category). (I also have three base systems, one of
which is a Mac.)

I already have SeaClear on the 17" laptop, along with a bunch of rasters.
I'm just loath to haul it around and can't leave it on the boat.


My trusty but ancient Toshiba Libretto finally gave up the ghost last
year.
Picked up another one on Craig's list for next to nothing, and it works
fine
with SeaClear. It's just a little bit bigger than a paperback.



You picked up another Toshiba Libretto or another model? What OS does it
run?

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www.sailnow.com




Capt. JG January 31st 09 06:17 PM

New VHF
 
"Edgar" wrote in message
...

"Capt. JG" wrote in message
ons...
"Edgar" wrote in message
...

"Capt. JG" wrote in message
tions...
Just picked up my new handheld.. HX850S. Very cool - DSC/GPS/6-watts.
Registed the MMSI number.

Now I have three handhelds, that one plus the HX350S and HX270S.... all
submersible.

http://picasaweb.google.com/SailNOW....20498028943010

Don't you have a fixed one at all? It can give you more than 6 watts
output you get from those handheld ones and if you also have a fixed
chartplotter in the boat they can be linked so that the VHF can send out
a distress call including your boat's id and exact location at a press
of a button. If the boom knocks you overboard unconscious with the
handheld in your pocket how are your crew going to call for help? I
have no problem with a hand held one for a backup but would not have one
or even two as my main sets.

I was interested in the seacock diagram on your site. Ignoring the
cockpit drains and exhaust outlet which are above the water line why are
all the underwater ones marked 'open' except for the head outtake?
Surely all underwate thruhulls should be shut when the boat is
unattended? Any one of them can sink the boat if the hose comes off.
I have a notice, encapsulated in plastic, on my boat, kept where nobody
can miss seeing it. It gives the location of all seacocks and makes it
clear that all are shut when the boat is left unattended (except for
short trips ashore)



All great questions....

I do have a fixed VHF aboard. It's an old ICOM, which works fine. It's on
my list for 2010 to replace with a DSC-enabled. Since the boat is so
small (30) and I rarely go offshore, even more rarely overnight (unless
anchored), and almost always have more than just one person up top, I'm
not concerned about being AWOL without someone noticing.

I don't have a chartplotter (and an AIS), sadly. It's not in my budget
until 2011 at least.

The 850 is my primary backup... I will be carrying it in my foulie
pocket. That's what I did with the 350, which will now be my secondary
backup below. The 270 is for the dinghy, should I need that and don't
want to take either of the other two (probably, I would take the 350,
since it has better battery life).

The ones marked open are when I'm there. Specifically, the head intake,
the sinks, the raw water.... They're closed normally when I'm not there
(except as you put it for short trips). I have them marked open, since I
do this before we leave the dock, and this is for customer/passenger
orientation. I keep a similar plastic-enclosed sheet in my orientation
book, which is revealed before we leave the dock. I have an emergency
check-off list displayed, but there's no reasonable place to put all the
boat orientation documents without papering the walls with them.

I think you should reconsider the head intake. The intake valve on the
head itself is obviously configured to let water in and therefore if you
leave it open when the boat may be heeled while sailing there is a strong
possibility of flooding, especially if the head is installed near the
waterline. On the other hand the head valve on the outlet is configured to
let stuff out and will block any water trying to come back in. Therefore,
although it may be a bigger looking pipe this is not the one you really
have to worry about, although this does not mean you should leave it open
when you quit the boat.



While what you say is definitetly true, I don't usually close it for
"normal" day sail classes. We don't usually heel all that much for these, at
least not for more than a minute or so at a time. When I do the heavy
weather class in the bay or if we go offshore, then I do close it. The head
discharge is closed all the time, as I have a holding tank... it would never
be opened in normal circumstances... the valve is banded to prove it hasn't
been opened.

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Capt. JG January 31st 09 09:04 PM

New VHF
 
"Dave" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 31 Jan 2009 10:09:32 -0800, "Capt. JG"
said:

You picked up another Toshiba Libretto or another model? What OS does it
run?


Another Libretto. My old one dual booted Win 98 and NT4. The replacement
is
running Win 98 IIRC, though I'm considering pulling the drive from my old
one and putting it on the replacement.



Do you think it can run XP? I can't stand any of the earlier ones, and I can
barely tolerate XP. I won't install Vista. I'd use linux, but that limits
the PC apps.

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Marc Heusser[_2_] January 31st 09 11:47 PM

laptops
 
In article ,
"Capt. JG" wrote:

Do you think it can run XP? I can't stand any of the earlier ones, and I can
barely tolerate XP. I won't install Vista. I'd use linux, but that limits
the PC apps.


The new Intel Macs (everything sold now) run XP really well, eg the
currently cheapest MacBook (the white one), and they are rather tough
(polycarbonate shell).
http://store.apple.com/us/browse/hom...ok?mco=MTE3MzM
Of course, a second hand one is fine as well.
You can boot them in XP just fine.

Or you can run Mac OS X, of course with less selection, but still a few
very useful apps for navigation.

They also triple boot Mac OS X, Windows XP, Ubuntu (for example) if you
like.

HTH

Marc

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Brian Whatcott February 1st 09 03:16 AM

New VHF
 
Boeland wrote:
Brian Whatcott wrote:
Capt. JG wrote:
....
I've been thinking about getting a HAM... no time lately. It looks
pretty simple, especially since they've dropped the morse
requirements....


A ham test prep book: a little application with the practice tests
on-line and you are good to go. You CAN rip through several tests on a
test day - to hop from Technician to Extra in one bound.

Brian W

Are you referring to Ham TestOnline http://www.hamtestonline.com/ or to
a different one?


That one seems to be fee-based.
Here are two good freebies:
http://www.qrz.com
http://www.eham.net/exams/

This one is also useful, if I recall...
http://ae9pw.com
It does the commercial too....

Brian Whatcott Altus OK

Marty[_2_] February 1st 09 03:18 AM

New VHF (Do you have a VHF broadcast license)
 
Wilbur Hubbard wrote:


He claims to sail to Baja from time to time. If he travels internationally
he is required by law to have them licensed. I doubt he has them licensed
because he has always had a shirklaw attitude. Typical liberal. The laws
exist for *other* people only.

B

BZZZT, nope.

Cheers
Martin

Boeland February 1st 09 02:01 PM

New VHF
 
Brian Whatcott wrote:
Boeland wrote:
Brian Whatcott wrote:
Capt. JG wrote:
....
I've been thinking about getting a HAM... no time lately. It looks
pretty simple, especially since they've dropped the morse
requirements....

A ham test prep book: a little application with the practice tests
on-line and you are good to go. You CAN rip through several tests on
a test day - to hop from Technician to Extra in one bound.

Brian W

Are you referring to Ham TestOnline http://www.hamtestonline.com/ or
to a different one?


That one seems to be fee-based.
Here are two good freebies:
http://www.qrz.com
http://www.eham.net/exams/

This one is also useful, if I recall...
http://ae9pw.com
It does the commercial too....

Brian Whatcott Altus OK

Thanks for your suggestions.

Capt. JG February 1st 09 06:09 PM

New VHF
 
"Dave" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 31 Jan 2009 13:04:20 -0800, "Capt. JG"
said:

Do you think it can run XP? I can't stand any of the earlier ones, and I
can
barely tolerate XP. I won't install Vista. I'd use linux, but that limits
the PC apps.


Probably not very well Those are pretty old machines. The advantages are
that it's cheap, and very small. You don't need a lot of horsepower to run
SeaClear.

Mine was set up to automatically start SeaClear on bootup.



Interesting... if I used it for just that then I wouldn't care I guess.

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Capt. JG February 1st 09 06:09 PM

New VHF (Do you have a VHF broadcast license)
 
"Marty" wrote in message
...
Wilbur Hubbard wrote:


He claims to sail to Baja from time to time. If he travels
internationally he is required by law to have them licensed. I doubt he
has them licensed because he has always had a shirklaw attitude. Typical
liberal. The laws exist for *other* people only.

B

BZZZT, nope.

Cheers
Martin



Like I said, Neal isn't too bright.

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[email protected] February 1st 09 06:36 PM

New VHF
 
On 1 Feb 2009 11:52:02 -0600, Dave wrote:

On Sat, 31 Jan 2009 13:04:20 -0800, "Capt. JG" said:

Do you think it can run XP? I can't stand any of the earlier ones, and I can
barely tolerate XP. I won't install Vista. I'd use linux, but that limits
the PC apps.


Probably not very well Those are pretty old machines. The advantages are
that it's cheap, and very small. You don't need a lot of horsepower to run
SeaClear.

Mine was set up to automatically start SeaClear on bootup.


The biggest advantage of an older computer on a sailboat is that it
draws less power. I have a Panasonic toughbook, which is absolutely
great, except it draws a lot more power than my RADAR and
Chartplotter, combined. You can, however, dump as much coffes as you
like on it without doing any harm. That's why you see them in so many
police vehicles.

I only use it to plan and create routes to upload to the chartplotter,
and to check weather and email when in port.


[email protected] February 1st 09 06:38 PM

New VHF (Do you have a VHF broadcast license)
 
On Sun, 1 Feb 2009 10:09:50 -0800, "Capt. JG"
wrote:

"Marty" wrote in message
m...
Wilbur Hubbard wrote:


He claims to sail to Baja from time to time. If he travels
internationally he is required by law to have them licensed. I doubt he
has them licensed because he has always had a shirklaw attitude. Typical
liberal. The laws exist for *other* people only.

B

BZZZT, nope.

Cheers
Martin



Like I said, Neal isn't too bright.


You are a master of understatement.


Brian Whatcott February 1st 09 07:51 PM

New VHF
 

I've been thinking about getting a HAM...


....
....

Here are two good freebies:
http://www.qrz.com
http://www.eham.net/exams/

This one is also useful, if I recall...
http://ae9pw.com
It does the commercial too....

Brian Whatcott Altus OK



Thanks for your suggestions.


You are most welcome. I should mention that the practice tests don't
necessarily jump out of the URLs
For QRZ.com, you can find Practice Tests down the page in the left
side column of picks.

Brian W


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