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thunder wrote:
On Sun, 25 Jan 2009 19:20:07 -0500, Marty wrote:

So, war crimes beget war crimes? Firing rockets indiscriminately is a
war crime, but then, so is using phosphorus in crowded civilian areas.
So, how would you stop them?

They can't be stopped. You should know that. From where I sit, Israel
just gave Hamas a very powerful tool. Hamas is a terrorist organization,
and what do terrorists do? So now, what does Israel do when Hamas fires
more rockets? And on, and on, it goes.


Oh, so the Israelis should just roll over and commit mass suicide? They
tried that at Masada, didn't really do much good.

They have done exactly the same thing any nation does when faced with
terrorists attacking them,, they took the fight to the terrorists,, just
like the US did following 911, (should have stuck to Afghanistan, but
that's another tale).

It's taken the Brits and the Irish terrorists, (yes, anybody who sets
bombs to deliberately kill innocent women and children to accomplish a
political goal is by definition a terrorist) only about 400 years to
come to an agreement,,, but in the end Britain is still Britain,
Ireland is still Ireland and the assholes have stopped killing innocents.

Cheers
Martin

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Larry wrote:
"Capt. JG" wrote in
easolutions:

Larry, Al Jazeera is a press organization. You might want to stop
ranting long enough to think.

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So, which Jewish-controlled press do I watch, instead? CNN? Fox? MSNBC?
CBS? NBC? ABC? which one of the TelAviv TV News do we watch?

Not a single one of them had a reporter INSIDE Gaza....



And just which journalist, worthy of the title did Al Jazeera have on
the ground? Not one. You saw a lot of stock footage, a lot of made up
crap, a bunch of stuff cobbled together from other news feeds and a few
home videos of questionable pedigree.

The only news organization with any credibility that had people on the
ground was the BBC, but you don't want to acknowledge them do you,
damned inconvenient they are, with all that British impartiality and
well deserved respect for honest journalism.

As an aside Larry, I'll bet you're right pleased with the Pope's
reversal of an excommunication this week aren't you?


Cheers
Martin

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On Sun, 25 Jan 2009 20:04:51 -0800, Capt. JG wrote:


There's also the BBC, but I suppose you think
they're controlled by "Jews" like the other supposedly are.

Nothing for nothing, but the BBC provided many of Al Jazeera's staff.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al_Jazeera

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On Sun, 25 Jan 2009 23:15:05 -0500, Marty wrote:


It's taken the Brits and the Irish terrorists, (yes, anybody who sets
bombs to deliberately kill innocent women and children to accomplish a
political goal is by definition a terrorist) only about 400 years to
come to an agreement,,, but in the end Britain is still Britain,
Ireland is still Ireland and the assholes have stopped killing
innocents.

LOL, you think Israel has 400 years? You overlook demographics. Arabs
within Israel, are expected to be the majority within @25 years. I guess
you know what that means in a democracy.

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t...
On Sun, 25 Jan 2009 23:15:05 -0500, Marty wrote:


It's taken the Brits and the Irish terrorists, (yes, anybody who sets
bombs to deliberately kill innocent women and children to accomplish a
political goal is by definition a terrorist) only about 400 years to
come to an agreement,,, but in the end Britain is still Britain,
Ireland is still Ireland and the assholes have stopped killing
innocents.

LOL, you think Israel has 400 years? You overlook demographics. Arabs
within Israel, are expected to be the majority within @25 years. I guess
you know what that means in a democracy.


It means that the current majority needs to invest in the political and
social capital necessary to make that a non-event.

There are only three possibilities... 1) ethnic cleansing 2) apartheid 3)
democracy. The first two are not viable.

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"thunder" wrote in message
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On Sun, 25 Jan 2009 20:04:51 -0800, Capt. JG wrote:


There's also the BBC, but I suppose you think
they're controlled by "Jews" like the other supposedly are.

Nothing for nothing, but the BBC provided many of Al Jazeera's staff.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al_Jazeera


Well, some of the staff, but beyond that it was originally funded by the
emir of Qatar.

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On Sun, 25 Jan 2009 20:03:11 -0800, "Capt. JG"
wrote:

"thunder" wrote in message
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On Sun, 25 Jan 2009 19:20:07 -0500, Marty wrote:

So, war crimes beget war crimes? Firing rockets indiscriminately is a
war crime, but then, so is using phosphorus in crowded civilian areas.

So, how would you stop them?

They can't be stopped. You should know that. From where I sit, Israel
just gave Hamas a very powerful tool. Hamas is a terrorist organization,
and what do terrorists do? So now, what does Israel do when Hamas fires
more rockets? And on, and on, it goes.


That's the pessimistic attitude. Israel attacked and so far Hamas has
stopped firing the rockets. I think it's possible for the situation to get
resolved.

I think, based on all known history, that you are foolishly
optimistic. Hamas uses any ceasefire to regroup and re-arm for the
next round. Syria is probably supplying them with more missles and
other aid.

This is not exactly a new pattern, I'm talking about.

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wrote in message
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On Sun, 25 Jan 2009 20:03:11 -0800, "Capt. JG"
wrote:

"thunder" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 25 Jan 2009 19:20:07 -0500, Marty wrote:

So, war crimes beget war crimes? Firing rockets indiscriminately is a
war crime, but then, so is using phosphorus in crowded civilian areas.

So, how would you stop them?

They can't be stopped. You should know that. From where I sit, Israel
just gave Hamas a very powerful tool. Hamas is a terrorist
organization,
and what do terrorists do? So now, what does Israel do when Hamas fires
more rockets? And on, and on, it goes.


That's the pessimistic attitude. Israel attacked and so far Hamas has
stopped firing the rockets. I think it's possible for the situation to get
resolved.

I think, based on all known history, that you are foolishly
optimistic. Hamas uses any ceasefire to regroup and re-arm for the
next round. Syria is probably supplying them with more missles and
other aid.

This is not exactly a new pattern, I'm talking about.



Hope for the best, plan for the worst...

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Capt. JG wrote:
"thunder" wrote in message
t...
On Sun, 25 Jan 2009 23:15:05 -0500, Marty wrote:


It's taken the Brits and the Irish terrorists, (yes, anybody who sets
bombs to deliberately kill innocent women and children to accomplish a
political goal is by definition a terrorist) only about 400 years to
come to an agreement,,, but in the end Britain is still Britain,
Ireland is still Ireland and the assholes have stopped killing
innocents.
LOL, you think Israel has 400 years? You overlook demographics. Arabs
within Israel, are expected to be the majority within @25 years. I guess
you know what that means in a democracy.


It means that the current majority needs to invest in the political and
social capital necessary to make that a non-event.

There are only three possibilities... 1) ethnic cleansing 2) apartheid 3)
democracy. The first two are not viable.

You forgot one. Produce enough children,
a rather pleasurable task.

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"Sjouke Burry" wrote in message
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Capt. JG wrote:
"thunder" wrote in message
t...
On Sun, 25 Jan 2009 23:15:05 -0500, Marty wrote:


It's taken the Brits and the Irish terrorists, (yes, anybody who sets
bombs to deliberately kill innocent women and children to accomplish a
political goal is by definition a terrorist) only about 400 years to
come to an agreement,,, but in the end Britain is still Britain,
Ireland is still Ireland and the assholes have stopped killing
innocents.
LOL, you think Israel has 400 years? You overlook demographics. Arabs
within Israel, are expected to be the majority within @25 years. I
guess
you know what that means in a democracy.


It means that the current majority needs to invest in the political and
social capital necessary to make that a non-event.

There are only three possibilities... 1) ethnic cleansing 2) apartheid 3)
democracy. The first two are not viable.

You forgot one. Produce enough children,
a rather pleasurable task.


That was included in the "are expected to be in the majority" comment
previously. The probably is... the Palestinians are reproducing faster.


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