On Wed, 7 Jan 2009 10:58:29 -0500, "Ernest Scribbler"
wrote:

"Bruce In Bangkok" wrote
www.meder.hu

"Sailing Alone Around the World with Carina (19ft boat)"

Fascinating site. Thanks.

I found him quite interesting to talk to. Apparently he wanted to sail
around the world and so just went out and did it.

From talking to him the boat was all he could afford and so he went
for it. He makes no pretenses that he has the best boat and in fact
when I said I had a 40' boat he commented that I must be a lot faster
then him. He said that coming up the Malacca Straits he was able to do
1.5 K, over the ground at times. His Atlantic crossing was 5 weeks and
I asked him how he carried all the supplies and he mentioned that he
tried to use as little fresh water as possible :-)

Cheers,

Bruce
(bruceinbangkokatgmaildotcom)

On Wed, 07 Jan 2009 15:58:36 GMT, (Richard
Casady) wrote:

On Tue, 6 Jan 2009 23:12:05 -0800, "Capt. JG"
wrote:

I don't know what defines a big boat.

I have a 22 ft alum fish/ski. It has a great deal of freeboard, sail
area, if you like, and it is big when you are trying to get it from
the trailer to the dock. There are 24 or even longer boats that catch
less wind, but its docking it unaided what makes it big. It _is_
bigger than nearly all the local boats.

Casady

A friend had a 28' boat and sailed all over the Western Pacific and
Indian Ocean with it. The only problem is that short boats are slower
and size does limit how much "stuff" you can haul.

Cheers,

Bruce
(bruceinbangkokatgmaildotcom)

"Bruce In Bangkok" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 07 Jan 2009 15:58:36 GMT, (Richard
Casady) wrote:

On Tue, 6 Jan 2009 23:12:05 -0800, "Capt. JG"
wrote:

I don't know what defines a big boat.

I have a 22 ft alum fish/ski. It has a great deal of freeboard, sail
area, if you like, and it is big when you are trying to get it from
the trailer to the dock. There are 24 or even longer boats that catch
less wind, but its docking it unaided what makes it big. It _is_
bigger than nearly all the local boats.

Casady

A friend had a 28' boat and sailed all over the Western Pacific and
Indian Ocean with it. The only problem is that short boats are slower
and size does limit how much "stuff" you can haul.

Cheers,

Bruce
(bruceinbangkokatgmaildotcom)


Yeah, it's stuff comprised of convenience items, additional safety gear,
passengers, what else? I guess it's a comfort zone issue. Some people aren't
concerned with what others would consider the bare minimum.

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www.sailnow.com

"katy" wrote in message
om...
Bruce In Bangkok wrote:
On Wed, 07 Jan 2009 08:33:41 -0500, katy
wrote:

What's the big black boat across the fairway in the picture?

That is a "Junk". The inverted commas are because it is really just a
semi-traditional hull with a big engine and junk type fully battened
sails. It is a day cruise charter boat and is quite successful, going
out nearly every day with, say 10 - 30 passengers.

The sails are only for show, they haul them up in the morning and they
are small enough that in any wind short of a hurricane they can stay
up and not impede the boat which motors all the time.

Apparently it is quite a good trip as I have heard the tourists coming
off the boat enthusing over what a nice day they have had.

Cheers,

Bruce
(bruceinbangkokatgmaildotcom)

hahahaha...we have the tourists here who say the same thing when they get
off the charter cruise ...she does put up her sails and turn off the
rngine but we have pretty tame sailing here and they all think they've
been out in a gale! Once in a while one of the time share peeps will
wander down to the docks trying to get private boats to take them out for
a fee...we all point to the charter boat...they really aren't interested
in hearing about licensing and captaincy etc...


We have charter boats somewhat like that here... however, they do actually
sail and it can be quite a dramatic experience for the uninitiated. The only
time the engines are typically on is returning or leaving the dock.


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www.sailnow.com

Bruce In Bangkok wrote:
On Wed, 7 Jan 2009 10:58:29 -0500, "Ernest Scribbler"
wrote:

"Bruce In Bangkok" wrote
www.meder.hu
"Sailing Alone Around the World with Carina (19ft boat)"

Fascinating site. Thanks.

I found him quite interesting to talk to. Apparently he wanted to sail
around the world and so just went out and did it.

From talking to him the boat was all he could afford and so he went
for it. He makes no pretenses that he has the best boat and in fact
when I said I had a 40' boat he commented that I must be a lot faster
then him. He said that coming up the Malacca Straits he was able to do
1.5 K, over the ground at times. His Atlantic crossing was 5 weeks and
I asked him how he carried all the supplies and he mentioned that he
tried to use as little fresh water as possible :-)


Given his meager fuel, if he gets becalmed, he pretty much just need to
wait it out putting stress on his water supplies. I wonder if he has a
solar still for just such situations.

Did he have a huge supply of books aboard?

BTW, I met Robin Knox Johnson years ago. One of his stories still gives
me the shivers.

Capt. JG wrote:
"katy" wrote in message
om...
Bruce In Bangkok wrote:
On Wed, 07 Jan 2009 08:33:41 -0500, katy
wrote:

What's the big black boat across the fairway in the picture?
That is a "Junk". The inverted commas are because it is really just a
semi-traditional hull with a big engine and junk type fully battened
sails. It is a day cruise charter boat and is quite successful, going
out nearly every day with, say 10 - 30 passengers.

The sails are only for show, they haul them up in the morning and they
are small enough that in any wind short of a hurricane they can stay
up and not impede the boat which motors all the time.

Apparently it is quite a good trip as I have heard the tourists coming
off the boat enthusing over what a nice day they have had.

Cheers,

Bruce
(bruceinbangkokatgmaildotcom)
hahahaha...we have the tourists here who say the same thing when they get
off the charter cruise ...she does put up her sails and turn off the
rngine but we have pretty tame sailing here and they all think they've
been out in a gale! Once in a while one of the time share peeps will
wander down to the docks trying to get private boats to take them out for
a fee...we all point to the charter boat...they really aren't interested
in hearing about licensing and captaincy etc...


We have charter boats somewhat like that here... however, they do actually
sail and it can be quite a dramatic experience for the uninitiated. The only
time the engines are typically on is returning or leaving the dock.



I like dramatic sailing experiences///most dramatic thing in the Neuse
is if you go aground...

In article , slide wrote:
BTW, I met Robin Knox Johnson years ago. One of his stories still gives
me the shivers.

C'mon, credit where it's due, it's Sir Robin Knox-Johnston. When someone
has achieved so much the least you can do is show the respect that has
been earned, if that means calling him 'Sir Robin' then call him that!

Justin.

--
Justin C, by the sea.

On Wed, 07 Jan 2009 12:22:46 -0700, slide
wrote:

Bruce In Bangkok wrote:
On Wed, 7 Jan 2009 10:58:29 -0500, "Ernest Scribbler"
wrote:

"Bruce In Bangkok" wrote
www.meder.hu
"Sailing Alone Around the World with Carina (19ft boat)"

Fascinating site. Thanks.

I found him quite interesting to talk to. Apparently he wanted to sail
around the world and so just went out and did it.

From talking to him the boat was all he could afford and so he went
for it. He makes no pretenses that he has the best boat and in fact
when I said I had a 40' boat he commented that I must be a lot faster
then him. He said that coming up the Malacca Straits he was able to do
1.5 K, over the ground at times. His Atlantic crossing was 5 weeks and
I asked him how he carried all the supplies and he mentioned that he
tried to use as little fresh water as possible :-)


Given his meager fuel, if he gets becalmed, he pretty much just need to
wait it out putting stress on his water supplies. I wonder if he has a
solar still for just such situations.

Did he have a huge supply of books aboard?

BTW, I met Robin Knox Johnson years ago. One of his stories still gives
me the shivers.

Difficult to believe that he can carry more then, say 20 Ltrs of fuel,
or many books for that matter. It is a small boat.

I'll probably talk to him again and will try to get some details of
how, what, how much, etc.
Cheers,

Bruce
(bruceinbangkokatgmaildotcom)

On Wed, 7 Jan 2009 09:36:34 -0800, "Capt. JG"
wrote:

"Bruce In Bangkok" wrote in message
.. .
On Wed, 07 Jan 2009 15:58:36 GMT, (Richard
Casady) wrote:

On Tue, 6 Jan 2009 23:12:05 -0800, "Capt. JG"
wrote:

I don't know what defines a big boat.

I have a 22 ft alum fish/ski. It has a great deal of freeboard, sail
area, if you like, and it is big when you are trying to get it from
the trailer to the dock. There are 24 or even longer boats that catch
less wind, but its docking it unaided what makes it big. It _is_
bigger than nearly all the local boats.

Casady

A friend had a 28' boat and sailed all over the Western Pacific and
Indian Ocean with it. The only problem is that short boats are slower
and size does limit how much "stuff" you can haul.

Cheers,

Bruce
(bruceinbangkokatgmaildotcom)


Yeah, it's stuff comprised of convenience items, additional safety gear,
passengers, what else? I guess it's a comfort zone issue. Some people aren't
concerned with what others would consider the bare minimum.

I don't know many cruisers that care much for extra passengers, except
for short trips but the "stuff", that's the problem. Extra this and
extra that; can anyone throw away a perfectly good, used, headsail
sheet that was just removed after ten years of use?
Cheers,

Bruce
(bruceinbangkokatgmaildotcom)

On Wed, 7 Jan 2009 09:38:48 -0800, "Capt. JG"
wrote:

"katy" wrote in message
. com...
Bruce In Bangkok wrote:
On Wed, 07 Jan 2009 08:33:41 -0500, katy
wrote:

What's the big black boat across the fairway in the picture?

That is a "Junk". The inverted commas are because it is really just a
semi-traditional hull with a big engine and junk type fully battened
sails. It is a day cruise charter boat and is quite successful, going
out nearly every day with, say 10 - 30 passengers.

The sails are only for show, they haul them up in the morning and they
are small enough that in any wind short of a hurricane they can stay
up and not impede the boat which motors all the time.

Apparently it is quite a good trip as I have heard the tourists coming
off the boat enthusing over what a nice day they have had.

Cheers,

Bruce
(bruceinbangkokatgmaildotcom)

hahahaha...we have the tourists here who say the same thing when they get
off the charter cruise ...she does put up her sails and turn off the
rngine but we have pretty tame sailing here and they all think they've
been out in a gale! Once in a while one of the time share peeps will
wander down to the docks trying to get private boats to take them out for
a fee...we all point to the charter boat...they really aren't interested
in hearing about licensing and captaincy etc...


We have charter boats somewhat like that here... however, they do actually
sail and it can be quite a dramatic experience for the uninitiated. The only
time the engines are typically on is returning or leaving the dock.

The "black boats" apparently were designed, from day one, as
sightseeing boats. The company owns four of them, two here and two in
Ko Samoui, and while they vary a bit in hull shape are essentially the
same - 200 HP diesels and small sails.

They haul the sails up before the customers arrive and take them down
after they get back, but they do look like a proper junk... if you've
never seen a junk :-)

Cheers,

Bruce
(bruceinbangkokatgmaildotcom)