Getting Rid of Damp
 

"Gregory Hall" wrote in message
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"katy" wrote in message
om...
We're having some problems with damp seeping in. Both the v-berth and the
aft cabin have wood bins on the sides for storage...these are open and
about 9 inches deep. That's where we store our clothes. The hull side and
bottoms are carpeted with the same fabric as the the liner, a sort of
nubbly burlappy material but more closely woven. It seems the clothes on
the bottom are always damp. I've been rotating them so they won't mildew
but that's getting tedious. Also have damp problems where the cushions
meet the hull walls in the berths. Got some roll out thick paper stuff
from West Marine but as soon as it gets damp, the sheets start picking
up moisture again. I've taken to running fans all the time to keep air
circulating and am cutting back on boiling anything or running the heater
excessively when it's raining so humidity doesn't build up. I've got 3M
window plastic over the ports and the vents are all open and drawing.
Thought of using DampRid, but since NC is in a permanent state of humid,
we'd be going through one of those every other day. Any suggestions on
how to keep damp and mildew from forming (except stopping breathing
processes)?


I like the "stop breathing" idea. I wish you'd try it.

--
Gregory Hall


I don't think that will work, Greg, there isn't all that much humidity
coming from respiration, even from an old windbag like her but I'm
definitely all for an "assume room temperature" approach. . . That's a
winner for all concerned.

Wilbur Hubbard

Getting Rid of Damp
 

"Bruce In Bangkok" wrote in message
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On Sun, 04 Jan 2009 12:03:01 -0500, katy
wrote:

pirate wrote:
If you are connected to dockside power, you might look for a small
dehumidifier.

Was wondering about that since we don't have the [roblem in the summer
with the AC going...thanks...

some of the people here in Phuket run air conditioners all the time,
whether they are at the boat or not, for just the reason you state.
Cheers,

Bruce
(bruceinbangkokatgmaildotcom)

That's so disgusting and you dock rats don't mind the noise? You must be
deaf as well as stupid.

Lubbers! What's the use of having a boat if you can't abide the ambient
conditions. So you tie up to a dock and plug into the grid. That's not
boating, dude. Buy yourself a house ashore and stop pretending to be a
boater.

Wilbur Hubbard

Getting Rid of Damp
 

"pirate" wrote in message
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Wilbur: Put your underwear back on and go to bed.
Bad boy!


Gaaawwwkkk!

I haven't been so roundly insulted for many a year. But, you've got to be
kidding. You can't think katysails is a sock? No, she's the real thing. She
used to post here until she started going blind. I was hoping that was the
last we'd hear from her. But, apparently not. Can you say, dumb as a box of
rocks???
Can you say whining, complaining netcop? She and Capt. J.G., two peas in a
pod.

Wilbur Hubbard

Getting Rid of Damp
 

"katy" wrote in message
om...
We're having some problems with damp seeping in. Both the v-berth and the
aft cabin have wood bins on the sides for storage...these are open and
about 9 inches deep. That's where we store our clothes. The hull side and
bottoms are carpeted with the same fabric as the the liner, a sort of
nubbly burlappy material but more closely woven. It seems the clothes on
the bottom are always damp. I've been rotating them so they won't mildew
but that's getting tedious. Also have damp problems where the cushions
meet the hull walls in the berths. Got some roll out thick paper stuff
from West Marine but as soon as it gets damp, the sheets start picking up
moisture again. I've taken to running fans all the time to keep air
circulating and am cutting back on boiling anything or running the heater
excessively when it's raining so humidity doesn't build up. I've got 3M
window plastic over the ports and the vents are all open and drawing.
Thought of using DampRid, but since NC is in a permanent state of humid,
we'd be going through one of those every other day. Any suggestions on how
to keep damp and mildew from forming (except stopping breathing
processes)?

Ventilation helps a lot here in sunny FL.
I've drilled "limber holes" in my lockers and lined drawers bottms and
shelves with "dri-dek" (http://www.dri-dek.com/). This stuff is great. Kinda
pricy but it won't wear out, cleans easily and allows air to ciculate under
whatever is stored in the drawer or locker. For your bins, I'd recommend
drilling holes in the bottoms and using the dri-deck on the bottom and hull
side.
I have a big garage sale dehumidifier, (too big, need to downsize) and it
does help a lot.

Getting Rid of Damp
 

I agree. I already apologized for that upfront.
Steve

"Bruce In Bangkok" wrote in message
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On Mon, 5 Jan 2009 08:44:37 +0100, "Steve Lusardi"
wrote:

Bruce,
Insulation will not get rid of the humidity, of course, but it will
eliminate the condensation.
Steve

Of course it will but insulating an already built boat is not a
trivial exercise however adding an A.C. or dehumidifier is.



"Bruce In Bangkok" wrote in message
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On Sun, 04 Jan 2009 09:57:29 -0500, katy
wrote:

We're having some problems with damp seeping in. Both the v-berth and
the aft cabin have wood bins on the sides for storage...these are open
and about 9 inches deep. That's where we store our clothes. The hull
side and bottoms are carpeted with the same fabric as the the liner, a
sort of nubbly burlappy material but more closely woven. It seems the
clothes on the bottom are always damp. I've been rotating them so they
won't mildew but that's getting tedious. Also have damp problems where
the cushions meet the hull walls in the berths. Got some roll out thick
paper stuff from West Marine but as soon as it gets damp, the sheets
start picking up moisture again. I've taken to running fans all the time
to keep air circulating and am cutting back on boiling anything or
running the heater excessively when it's raining so humidity doesn't
build up. I've got 3M window plastic over the ports and the vents are
all open and drawing. Thought of using DampRid, but since NC is in a
permanent state of humid, we'd be going through one of those every other
day. Any suggestions on how to keep damp and mildew from forming (except
stopping breathing processes)?


You are living in a damp atmosphere, sort of like a swamp. The only
solution is to install an air conditioner or dehumidifier or move to a
drier climate.
Cheers,

Bruce
(bruceinbangkokatgmaildotcom)

Cheers,

Bruce
(bruceinbangkokatgmaildotcom)

Getting Rid of Damp
 

"KLC Lewis" wrote in message
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"Justin C" wrote in message
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In article , Larry wrote:
Leave the AC run all summer and the dehumidifier running all winter to
keep the boat dried out. Your problem goes away as soon as the air
inside the boat is DRY, not like a North Carolina swamp.

Out of interest, is it possible to keep the air in a boat dry? OK, if
you've got a de-humidifier running 24/7, and the boat is closed up then,
yep, I expect it'll dry out, but what about a boat that's used
regularly? Can you ever dry it out?

Justin.

--
Justin C, by the sea.

The two most important words, IMO, are, "Insulate and ventilate."
Insulating both above and below the waterline wherever possible keeps
condensation down, while ventilation keeps the humidity inside the boat
close to that of outside the boat, but prevents stale air and heat
build-up. Solar-powered Nicro Day/Night vents work very well if properly
placed, combined with passive vents belowdecks. The problem is not heat
and humidity per se, but differences in heat and humidity.


I agree. I've got the spaces between the component (inner liner) and the
hull all poured with two-part, urethane closed-cell foam. It makes the boat
stronger, quieter, unsinkable and eliminates the condensation in all but the
most ideal conditions for it. The overhead will get condensation on it when
cooking and boiling water but that's about it and that soon evaporates. Also
keeping the hatches open when aboard, which is most of the time for us real
sailors, helps keep the boat surfaces and air temperature in synch so you're
correct there Karin. When the water becomes colder than the air, regular
uninsulated boats sweat something awful on the inside surfaces below, at and
slightly above the water line. The same principle as a glass of iced tea
'sweating.'

If a boat doesn't have an insulated hull it's going to sweat and their is
nothing that can be done for it bar making a floating home out of it and
keeping it plugged into the grid and running de-humidifiers and air
conditioners. If you have to do that then what's the use of even owning a
boat. Just another waste of resources. Why is it people never even consider
that boats were never meant to be as luxurious as homes ashore. Sail them
and stop complaining or just find something else to do.

Wilbur Hubbard

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Larry wrote:
Marty wrote in
:

I saw the aftermath of a Hamas rocket hitting a kindergarden the other
day,,,, how about damning that...twit

Martin



So, if your neighbor murders your son, it's ok for you to kill them all?

That's not what the cops say where I live. It's NOT OK for me to kill off
the neighbors if they kill someone of mine. I'll certainly want to, but we
are a society of laws. We don't just start banging away on the neighbors
with our M-16s trying to see how many we can kill. That leads to anarchy
and everyone dies.

Why is murder OK when it's done by Zionists? I've wondered that for years.


Flip that over. You're saying its ok for the Hamas to murder? Of
course you're not, but how do you stop them? Have the UN tell them to
behave?
Give us a good solution.
Gordon

Getting Rid of Damp
 

"Gordon" wrote in message
m...
Larry wrote:
Marty wrote in
:

I saw the aftermath of a Hamas rocket hitting a kindergarden the other
day,,,, how about damning that...twit

Martin



So, if your neighbor murders your son, it's ok for you to kill them all?

That's not what the cops say where I live. It's NOT OK for me to kill
off the neighbors if they kill someone of mine. I'll certainly want to,
but we are a society of laws. We don't just start banging away on the
neighbors with our M-16s trying to see how many we can kill. That leads
to anarchy and everyone dies.

Why is murder OK when it's done by Zionists? I've wondered that for
years.


Flip that over. You're saying its ok for the Hamas to murder? Of course
you're not, but how do you stop them? Have the UN tell them to behave?
Give us a good solution.
Gordon

Give them everything they want. Anything less than complete capitulation and
the violence will continue. Of course there would still be hold-outs, even
then. And violence from holdouts on the other side will increase
exponentially. If the world were made up entirely of reasonable people, a
peaceful solution to the Israeli/Palestinian problem could be found.
Unfortunately, it's not, and one won't be.

The most rational thing the US can do in this situation is to refuse to take
sides and turn peacekeeping over to the UN. But it's far too late for that,
I fear.

Getting Rid of Damp
 

Larry wrote:
Marty wrote in
:

I saw the aftermath of a Hamas rocket hitting a kindergarden the other
day,,,, how about damning that...twit

Martin



So, if your neighbor murders your son, it's ok for you to kill them all?

That's not what the cops say where I live. It's NOT OK for me to kill off
the neighbors if they kill someone of mine. I'll certainly want to, but we
are a society of laws. We don't just start banging away on the neighbors
with our M-16s trying to see how many we can kill. That leads to anarchy
and everyone dies.

Why is murder OK when it's done by Zionists? I've wondered that for years.


I didn't say anything of the sort, just wonder why you condemn the
people who try very hard *not* to hit civilians, but say nothing about
the people who deliberately target civilians.

Martin

Getting Rid of Damp
 

"Larry" wrote in message
...
Marty wrote in
:

I saw the aftermath of a Hamas rocket hitting a kindergarden the other
day,,,, how about damning that...twit

Martin



So, if your neighbor murders your son, it's ok for you to kill them all?

That's not what the cops say where I live. It's NOT OK for me to kill off
the neighbors if they kill someone of mine. I'll certainly want to, but
we
are a society of laws. We don't just start banging away on the neighbors
with our M-16s trying to see how many we can kill. That leads to anarchy
and everyone dies.

Why is murder OK when it's done by Zionists? I've wondered that for
years.



Laws of society? Yet you just got done telling me how all Jews should die or
AH should have "finished" the job.

You're a loon.


--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com