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This person sounds like a paranoid, revengeful nut case. (and I ain't
talking about Perez) Wow! http://www.sailsea.org/ Be careful where you go to learn how to sail. Shad O'Shay |
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"Shad O'Shay" wrote in message ... This person sounds like a paranoid, revengeful nut case. (and I ain't talking about Perez) Wow! http://www.sailsea.org/ Be careful where you go to learn how to sail. Shad O'Shay An interesting view on the subject. Personally, it strikes me that Jonathan is simply defending himself against corporate in-fighting and unjust termination. FWIW, I find nothing objectionable in JG's presenting his side of the story. As an aside, I didn't know anything at all about this until certain sock puppets brought it up. It's not JG stirring the pot, if you ask me. |
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"KLC Lewis" wrote in message et... "Shad O'Shay" wrote in message ... This person sounds like a paranoid, revengeful nut case. (and I ain't talking about Perez) Wow! http://www.sailsea.org/ Be careful where you go to learn how to sail. Shad O'Shay An interesting view on the subject. Personally, it strikes me that Jonathan is simply defending himself against corporate in-fighting and unjust termination. FWIW, I find nothing objectionable in JG's presenting his side of the story. As an aside, I didn't know anything at all about this until certain sock puppets brought it up. It's not JG stirring the pot, if you ask me. You ain't much of a chef if you think that ain't stirring the pot.... Mr. Ganz gets fired for what look like valid reasons. Then he retaliates and slanders them for firing him. Sounds like sour grapes to me. Hijacking a non-profit's webpage and airing his dirtry laundry on it ain't too kewl. He might have legal problems, too, because of it and it would serve him right imo. Shad O'Shay |
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"Shad O'Shay" wrote in message ... "KLC Lewis" wrote in message et... "Shad O'Shay" wrote in message ... This person sounds like a paranoid, revengeful nut case. (and I ain't talking about Perez) Wow! http://www.sailsea.org/ Be careful where you go to learn how to sail. Shad O'Shay An interesting view on the subject. Personally, it strikes me that Jonathan is simply defending himself against corporate in-fighting and unjust termination. FWIW, I find nothing objectionable in JG's presenting his side of the story. As an aside, I didn't know anything at all about this until certain sock puppets brought it up. It's not JG stirring the pot, if you ask me. You ain't much of a chef if you think that ain't stirring the pot.... Mr. Ganz gets fired for what look like valid reasons. Then he retaliates and slanders them for firing him. Sounds like sour grapes to me. Hijacking a non-profit's webpage and airing his dirtry laundry on it ain't too kewl. He might have legal problems, too, because of it and it would serve him right imo. Shad O'Shay You are entitled to your opinion, he is entitled to his. "Slander" only exists if he knowingly makes false statements regarding others. Attempting to protect his good name is not slander, nor is it actionable. And since he owns the sailsea.org dns, he has not "highjacked" it. Oh, and you entirely missed my point about who is stirring the pot, Mr. Puppet. |
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"KLC Lewis" wrote in message et... "Shad O'Shay" wrote in message ... "KLC Lewis" wrote in message et... "Shad O'Shay" wrote in message ... This person sounds like a paranoid, revengeful nut case. (and I ain't talking about Perez) Wow! http://www.sailsea.org/ Be careful where you go to learn how to sail. Shad O'Shay An interesting view on the subject. Personally, it strikes me that Jonathan is simply defending himself against corporate in-fighting and unjust termination. FWIW, I find nothing objectionable in JG's presenting his side of the story. As an aside, I didn't know anything at all about this until certain sock puppets brought it up. It's not JG stirring the pot, if you ask me. You ain't much of a chef if you think that ain't stirring the pot.... Mr. Ganz gets fired for what look like valid reasons. Then he retaliates and slanders them for firing him. Sounds like sour grapes to me. Hijacking a non-profit's webpage and airing his dirtry laundry on it ain't too kewl. He might have legal problems, too, because of it and it would serve him right imo. Shad O'Shay You are entitled to your opinion, he is entitled to his. "Slander" only exists if he knowingly makes false statements regarding others. Attempting to protect his good name is not slander, nor is it actionable. And since he owns the sailsea.org dns, he has not "highjacked" it. Oh, and you entirely missed my point about who is stirring the pot, Mr. Puppet. Excuse me, but you seem to be ignoring the crux of the matter. Q: Where on that hyjacked web page does Sailsea get to have its say? A: Nowhere. It's all one-sided propaganda written to slander Sailsea. As a no-profit organization they have certain legal rights. Does Gaynze own the legal rights to the name "Sailsea?" If he don't, then I can see where he's in some serious trouble. If he does, he still can be in some serious trouble. Either way he's one slimey individual, imo. Maybe you don't read it the same but I get the impression it's all about his poor bruised ego. People don't appreciate him so he lashed out like a spoiled brat. That's the way I see it. He acts the same here. Shad O'Shay |
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Either way he's one slimey individual, imo.
Yep, and they're pretty smart to have gotten rid of him. |
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"KLC Lewis" wrote in message
et... troll sh*t removed An interesting view on the subject. Personally, it strikes me that Jonathan is simply defending himself against corporate in-fighting and unjust termination. FWIW, I find nothing objectionable in JG's presenting his side of the story. As an aside, I didn't know anything at all about this until certain sock puppets brought it up. It's not JG stirring the pot, if you ask me. Of course, I agree with this assessment. LOL -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com |
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[troll nutrients snipped] Please don't feed the trolls, it makes them post more distasteful garbage. Cheers Martin |
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"Bill Kearney" wrote in message ... Either way he's one slimey individual, imo. Yep, and they're pretty smart to have gotten rid of him. No brainer! Wilbur Hubbard |
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"Marty" wrote in message ... KLC Lewis wrote: [troll nutrients snipped] Please don't feed the trolls, it makes them post more distasteful garbage. Cheers Martin Ahah! So you admit that website, http://www.sailsea.org/ contains distasteful garbage (i.e. dirty laundry aired in public). I agree. It doesn't get much sleazier than that! But what else do you expect considering the source? He really needs to grow up. Wilbur Hubbard |
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"KLC Lewis" wrote in message et... "Shad O'Shay" wrote in message ... This person sounds like a paranoid, revengeful nut case. (and I ain't talking about Perez) Wow! http://www.sailsea.org/ Be careful where you go to learn how to sail. Shad O'Shay An interesting view on the subject. Personally, it strikes me that Jonathan is simply defending himself against corporate in-fighting and unjust termination. FWIW, I find nothing objectionable in JG's presenting his side of the story. As an aside, I didn't know anything at all about this until certain sock puppets brought it up. It's not JG stirring the pot, if you ask me. I suppose you can be forgiven for not paying attention but I alway pay attention. I recall the following post: Path: g2news1.google.com!news4.google.com!out04a.usenets erver.com!news.usenetserver.com!in01.usenetserver. com!news.usenetserver.com!spln!extra.newsguy.com!s n-xt-sjc-03!sn-xt-sjc-08!sn-post-sjc-01!supernews.com!corp.supernews.com!not-for-mail From: "Capt. JG" Newsgroups: alt.sailing.asa,rec.boats.cruising Subject: Wannabe's, has-been's, never were's, faggots, pretenders and scumbag lawyers. Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2008 23:02:24 -0800 Organization: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com Message-ID: References: s.com X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-RFC2646: Format=Flowed; Response X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-Complaints-To: Lines: 26 "Anonymous" wrote in message ... Actually, I want to thank you. I didn't realize that my name was still associated with them in any "official" capacity. I will rectify the situation. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com Thanks! I hope you parted on good terms with them, some of those non-profits can be quite squirrely to manage. You're welcome. I don't think it's appropriate for me to comment, since I was an officer of the corporation. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com ------------------------------------------ It's not appropriate for him to comment yet he engages in gossip and libel in a hijacked website???? Can you say, two-faced LIAR! How about HYPOCRITE? -- Gregory Hall |
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"Wilbur Hubbard" wrote in news:4946ccd5$0
: "Bill Kearney" wrote in message ... Either way he's one slimey individual, imo. Yep, and they're pretty smart to have gotten rid of him. No brainer! Wilbur Hubbard The idiots are the people who don't realize that Shad O'Shay and Wilbur are the same poster... -- Geoff www.GeoffSchultz.org |
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"Geoff Schultz" wrote in message ... "Wilbur Hubbard" wrote in news:4946ccd5$0 : "Bill Kearney" wrote in message ... Either way he's one slimey individual, imo. Yep, and they're pretty smart to have gotten rid of him. No brainer! Wilbur Hubbard The idiots are the people who don't realize that Shad O'Shay and Wilbur are the same poster... -- Geoff www.GeoffSchultz.org They are? Boy, was I fooled! |
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"Wilbur Hubbard" wrote in news:4946ccd5$0 : "Bill Kearney" wrote in message ... Either way he's one slimey individual, imo. Yep, and they're pretty smart to have gotten rid of him. No brainer! Wilbur Hubbard The idiots are the people who don't realize that Shad O'Shay and Wilbur are the same poster... -- Geoff www.GeoffSchultz.org I'm just guessing, of course, but so often a new name pops up in one of these name calling threads. I've always figured that it was the great man himself. Who else would agree with such a nut? Richard |
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"Shad O'Shay" wrote in message ... This person sounds like a paranoid, revengeful nut case. (and I ain't talking about Perez) Wow! http://www.sailsea.org/ Be careful where you go to learn how to sail. Shad O'Shay Jonathan did a job no one else wanted (at no pay) for 5 years. He grew the outfit in size and scope. Many people benefitted from his hard work. He was the only one qualified to teach the larger and harder classes. The non profit was nominated for a prestigious award with him at the helm. He's got an MBA AND USCG captain's license, two combined qualifications that are hard to find. It was HIS vision and HIS hard, selfless work. Now that things are up and running smoothly a bunch of ingrate wannabes wanted to take over and take over they did. It wasn't a simple vote that got him outed, it was a deliberate conspiracy. Jonathan shouldn't go back, he is only lowering himself to their standards. He might do much better creating a new, competing non profit with iron clad bylaws that don't allow others to commandeer the ship. It won't be the same if he goes back, hurt feelings and grudges usually can never be put aside. Be the better man and take the high road, it will serve you well in the long term. He may have made mistakes, he has admitted them and now he can use what he has learned to do much, much better. Anger and resentment are based upon things of the past, hope and vigor are for the future! Carry the torch forward and may it shine brightly upon all! Admiral Momsen |
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On Mon, 15 Dec 2008 18:47:12 -0600, Geoff Schultz
wrote: "Wilbur Hubbard" wrote in news:4946ccd5$0 : "Bill Kearney" wrote in message ... Either way he's one slimey individual, imo. Yep, and they're pretty smart to have gotten rid of him. No brainer! Wilbur Hubbard The idiots are the people who don't realize that Shad O'Shay and Wilbur are the same poster... -- Geoff www.GeoffSchultz.org Yet another manifestation? No doubt about it... bi-polar syndrome. A friggin loony to use the vernacular. Cheers, Bruce (bruceinbangkokatgmaildotcom) |
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On Mon, 15 Dec 2008 19:07:17 -0600, Richard
wrote: Geoff Schultz wrote: "Wilbur Hubbard" wrote in news:4946ccd5$0 : "Bill Kearney" wrote in message ... Either way he's one slimey individual, imo. Yep, and they're pretty smart to have gotten rid of him. No brainer! Wilbur Hubbard The idiots are the people who don't realize that Shad O'Shay and Wilbur are the same poster... -- Geoff www.GeoffSchultz.org I'm just guessing, of course, but so often a new name pops up in one of these name calling threads. I've always figured that it was the great man himself. Who else would agree with such a nut? Richard One of his alter-egos? Or perhaps; another nut? Cheers, Bruce (bruceinbangkokatgmaildotcom) |
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Bruce In Bangkok wrote:
The idiots are the people who don't realize that Shad O'Shay and Wilbur are the same poster... -- Geoff www.GeoffSchultz.org I'm just guessing, of course, but so often a new name pops up in one of these name calling threads. I've always figured that it was the great man himself. Who else would agree with such a nut? Richard One of his alter-egos? Or perhaps; another nut? Hi Bruce! The former, I Suspect. But who know (or cares). Can we move on now? Richard |
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"Charles Momsen" wrote in message ... "Shad O'Shay" wrote in message ... This person sounds like a paranoid, revengeful nut case. (and I ain't talking about Perez) Wow! http://www.sailsea.org/ Be careful where you go to learn how to sail. Shad O'Shay Jonathan did a job no one else wanted (at no pay) for 5 years. He grew the outfit in size and scope. Many people benefitted from his hard work. He was the only one qualified to teach the larger and harder classes. The non profit was nominated for a prestigious award with him at the helm. He's got an MBA AND USCG captain's license, two combined qualifications that are hard to find. It was HIS vision and HIS hard, selfless work. Now that things are up and running smoothly a bunch of ingrate wannabes wanted to take over and take over they did. It wasn't a simple vote that got him outed, it was a deliberate conspiracy. Jonathan shouldn't go back, he is only lowering himself to their standards. He might do much better creating a new, competing non profit with iron clad bylaws that don't allow others to commandeer the ship. It won't be the same if he goes back, hurt feelings and grudges usually can never be put aside. Be the better man and take the high road, it will serve you well in the long term. He may have made mistakes, he has admitted them and now he can use what he has learned to do much, much better. Anger and resentment are based upon things of the past, hope and vigor are for the future! Carry the torch forward and may it shine brightly upon all! Admiral Momsen Good grief, Momsen, have you taken leave of your senses? Have you been drinking the liberal Kool Aid? Have you been smoking some of that there wacky tobaccy? Or perhaps you got ahold of some of Gaynze's 10X strength LSD? Get a grip on yourself, Admiral! Next thing you know, if you keep spouting such nonsense, Obama will come schlepping around and appoint you to head the Joint Chiefs of Staff! You need to get a clue. There's some behind-the-scenes information I am privy to which sheds an entirely new light upon this situation. I can't be specific at this time but it concerns possible abuse of the non-profit status of the organization by the fired member. Does the term "under the table" mean anything to you? This whole episode with the web site and the feuding is all about a cover-up. Of course the organization wants rid of a possible huge liability but said liability thinks only about its own hurt pride. I understand Perez has even been talking to an F. Lee Bailey type (shhhhh! don't tell anybody). Can you expand your rigid mind to encompass such a scenario? It happens all the time. Usually greed is at the core of the misdoings. Greed and a total disregard for the law. This is how liberals think - laws are for somebody else. Wilbur Hubbard |
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"Wilbur Hubbard" wrote in message anews.com... "Charles Momsen" wrote in message ... "Shad O'Shay" wrote in message ... This person sounds like a paranoid, revengeful nut case. (and I ain't talking about Perez) Wow! http://www.sailsea.org/ Be careful where you go to learn how to sail. Shad O'Shay Jonathan did a job no one else wanted (at no pay) for 5 years. He grew the outfit in size and scope. Many people benefitted from his hard work. He was the only one qualified to teach the larger and harder classes. The non profit was nominated for a prestigious award with him at the helm. He's got an MBA AND USCG captain's license, two combined qualifications that are hard to find. It was HIS vision and HIS hard, selfless work. Now that things are up and running smoothly a bunch of ingrate wannabes wanted to take over and take over they did. It wasn't a simple vote that got him outed, it was a deliberate conspiracy. Jonathan shouldn't go back, he is only lowering himself to their standards. He might do much better creating a new, competing non profit with iron clad bylaws that don't allow others to commandeer the ship. It won't be the same if he goes back, hurt feelings and grudges usually can never be put aside. Be the better man and take the high road, it will serve you well in the long term. He may have made mistakes, he has admitted them and now he can use what he has learned to do much, much better. Anger and resentment are based upon things of the past, hope and vigor are for the future! Carry the torch forward and may it shine brightly upon all! Admiral Momsen Good grief, Momsen, have you taken leave of your senses? Have you been drinking the liberal Kool Aid? Have you been smoking some of that there wacky tobaccy? Or perhaps you got ahold of some of Gaynze's 10X strength LSD? Get a grip on yourself, Admiral! Next thing you know, if you keep spouting such nonsense, Obama will come schlepping around and appoint you to head the Joint Chiefs of Staff! You need to get a clue. There's some behind-the-scenes information I am privy to which sheds an entirely new light upon this situation. I can't be specific at this time but it concerns possible abuse of the non-profit status of the organization by the fired member. Does the term "under the table" mean anything to you? This whole episode with the web site and the feuding is all about a cover-up. Of course the organization wants rid of a possible huge liability but said liability thinks only about its own hurt pride. I understand Perez has even been talking to an F. Lee Bailey type (shhhhh! don't tell anybody). Can you expand your rigid mind to encompass such a scenario? It happens all the time. Usually greed is at the core of the misdoings. Greed and a total disregard for the law. This is how liberals think - laws are for somebody else. Wilbur Hubbard Are you saying he might have been outed because of corruption? That the possibility of operating a non profit for personal benefit was going on? Personal enurement? How could that happen? How would he get the "beancounter" to go along? Naahh... I think Jonathan is telling the truth. It's just like he says it is. It was a conspiracy and mutiny against him. The loser half wits tossed him overboard to run the show. He should up the ante to get reinstated back into his rightful and hard earned position. Those people who voted against should be publicly flogged, keel hauled and made to walk the plank! Jonathan, don't give up the ship or the financial records! |
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On Tue, 16 Dec 2008 16:39:41 -0700, "Charles Momsen"
wrote: "Wilbur Hubbard" wrote in message tanews.com... "Charles Momsen" wrote in message ... "Shad O'Shay" wrote in message ... This person sounds like a paranoid, revengeful nut case. (and I ain't talking about Perez) Wow! http://www.sailsea.org/ Be careful where you go to learn how to sail. Shad O'Shay Jonathan did a job no one else wanted (at no pay) for 5 years. He grew the outfit in size and scope. Many people benefitted from his hard work. He was the only one qualified to teach the larger and harder classes. The non profit was nominated for a prestigious award with him at the helm. He's got an MBA AND USCG captain's license, two combined qualifications that are hard to find. It was HIS vision and HIS hard, selfless work. Now that things are up and running smoothly a bunch of ingrate wannabes wanted to take over and take over they did. It wasn't a simple vote that got him outed, it was a deliberate conspiracy. Jonathan shouldn't go back, he is only lowering himself to their standards. He might do much better creating a new, competing non profit with iron clad bylaws that don't allow others to commandeer the ship. It won't be the same if he goes back, hurt feelings and grudges usually can never be put aside. Be the better man and take the high road, it will serve you well in the long term. He may have made mistakes, he has admitted them and now he can use what he has learned to do much, much better. Anger and resentment are based upon things of the past, hope and vigor are for the future! Carry the torch forward and may it shine brightly upon all! Admiral Momsen Good grief, Momsen, have you taken leave of your senses? Have you been drinking the liberal Kool Aid? Have you been smoking some of that there wacky tobaccy? Or perhaps you got ahold of some of Gaynze's 10X strength LSD? Get a grip on yourself, Admiral! Next thing you know, if you keep spouting such nonsense, Obama will come schlepping around and appoint you to head the Joint Chiefs of Staff! You need to get a clue. There's some behind-the-scenes information I am privy to which sheds an entirely new light upon this situation. I can't be specific at this time but it concerns possible abuse of the non-profit status of the organization by the fired member. Does the term "under the table" mean anything to you? This whole episode with the web site and the feuding is all about a cover-up. Of course the organization wants rid of a possible huge liability but said liability thinks only about its own hurt pride. I understand Perez has even been talking to an F. Lee Bailey type (shhhhh! don't tell anybody). Can you expand your rigid mind to encompass such a scenario? It happens all the time. Usually greed is at the core of the misdoings. Greed and a total disregard for the law. This is how liberals think - laws are for somebody else. Wilbur Hubbard Are you saying he might have been outed because of corruption? That the possibility of operating a non profit for personal benefit was going on? Personal enurement? How could that happen? How would he get the "beancounter" to go along? Naahh... I think Jonathan is telling the truth. It's just like he says it is. It was a conspiracy and mutiny against him. The loser half wits tossed him overboard to run the show. He should up the ante to get reinstated back into his rightful and hard earned position. Those people who voted against should be publicly flogged, keel hauled and made to walk the plank! Jonathan, don't give up the ship or the financial records! Is this Neal talking to Wilbur and each replying to the other? Is that what is called a circle-jerk amongst "real sailors"? Cheers, Bruce (bruceinbangkokatgmaildotcom) |
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"Bruce In Bangkok" wrote in message
... troll sh*t removed Is this Neal talking to Wilbur and each replying to the other? Is that what is called a circle-jerk amongst "real sailors"? Cheers, Bruce (bruceinbangkokatgmaildotcom) It's actually two stalkers/trolls. However, I think that you gave a proper definition. These guys are pretty sad examples of humanity. Neal is an angry guy with no prospects of much of anything, so with him, anything goes. The other guy is smarter, which isn't saying much, and attempts to disrupt people's lives for fun. As I've said, the best advice is to completely ignore them, as I try to do. This serves two purposes. It infuriates them and you don't have to read their crap. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com |
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Capt. JG wrote:
"Bruce In Bangkok" wrote in message ... troll sh*t removed Is this Neal talking to Wilbur and each replying to the other? Is that what is called a circle-jerk amongst "real sailors"? Cheers, Bruce (bruceinbangkokatgmaildotcom) It's actually two stalkers/trolls. However, I think that you gave a proper definition. These guys are pretty sad examples of humanity. Neal is an angry guy with no prospects of much of anything, so with him, anything goes. The other guy is smarter, which isn't saying much, and attempts to disrupt people's lives for fun. That pretty much sums it up, Momsen can be, well, 'difficult'. Why he has chosen the name of a deceased USN Admiral who invented a rescue device for submariners (look up "Momsen Lung") I have no idea As I've said, the best advice is to completely ignore them, as I try to do. This serves two purposes. It infuriates them and you don't have to read their crap. Sound advice., Cheers Martin |
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"Capt. JG" wrote in message easolutions... "Bruce In Bangkok" wrote in message ... troll sh*t removed Is this Neal talking to Wilbur and each replying to the other? Is that what is called a circle-jerk amongst "real sailors"? Cheers, Bruce (bruceinbangkokatgmaildotcom) It's actually two stalkers/trolls. However, I think that you gave a proper definition. These guys are pretty sad examples of humanity. Neal is an angry guy with no prospects of much of anything, so with him, anything goes. The other guy is smarter, which isn't saying much, and attempts to disrupt people's lives for fun. As I've said, the best advice is to completely ignore them, as I try to do. This serves two purposes. It infuriates them and you don't have to read their crap. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com Yes, ignore them! |
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Nomen Nescio wrote:
Such same that so few are educated in the Classic Languages,.... Lector Emptor Cheers Martin |
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Marty wrote:
Nomen Nescio wrote: Such same that so few are educated in the Classic Languages,.... Lector Emptor Whoops! One drink too many,,,,Such Shame,,,,,,Lector Caveat Cheers Martin |
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"Marty" wrote in message ... Marty wrote: Nomen Nescio wrote: Such same that so few are educated in the Classic Languages,.... Lector Emptor Whoops! One drink too many,,,,Such Shame,,,,,,Lector Caveat Cheers Martin Braccae tuae hiant |
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Billy Redden wrote:
"Marty" wrote in message ... Marty wrote: Nomen Nescio wrote: Such same that so few are educated in the Classic Languages,.... Lector Emptor Whoops! One drink too many,,,,Such Shame,,,,,,Lector Caveat Cheers Martin Braccae tuae hiant Well, they might have had buttons,,,, but not with a toga Cheers Martin |
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"Charles Momsen" wrote in message ... "Wilbur Hubbard" wrote in message anews.com... "Charles Momsen" wrote in message ... "Shad O'Shay" wrote in message ... This person sounds like a paranoid, revengeful nut case. (and I ain't talking about Perez) Wow! http://www.sailsea.org/ Be careful where you go to learn how to sail. Shad O'Shay Jonathan did a job no one else wanted (at no pay) for 5 years. He grew the outfit in size and scope. Many people benefitted from his hard work. He was the only one qualified to teach the larger and harder classes. The non profit was nominated for a prestigious award with him at the helm. He's got an MBA AND USCG captain's license, two combined qualifications that are hard to find. It was HIS vision and HIS hard, selfless work. Now that things are up and running smoothly a bunch of ingrate wannabes wanted to take over and take over they did. It wasn't a simple vote that got him outed, it was a deliberate conspiracy. Jonathan shouldn't go back, he is only lowering himself to their standards. He might do much better creating a new, competing non profit with iron clad bylaws that don't allow others to commandeer the ship. It won't be the same if he goes back, hurt feelings and grudges usually can never be put aside. Be the better man and take the high road, it will serve you well in the long term. He may have made mistakes, he has admitted them and now he can use what he has learned to do much, much better. Anger and resentment are based upon things of the past, hope and vigor are for the future! Carry the torch forward and may it shine brightly upon all! Admiral Momsen Good grief, Momsen, have you taken leave of your senses? Have you been drinking the liberal Kool Aid? Have you been smoking some of that there wacky tobaccy? Or perhaps you got ahold of some of Gaynze's 10X strength LSD? Get a grip on yourself, Admiral! Next thing you know, if you keep spouting such nonsense, Obama will come schlepping around and appoint you to head the Joint Chiefs of Staff! You need to get a clue. There's some behind-the-scenes information I am privy to which sheds an entirely new light upon this situation. I can't be specific at this time but it concerns possible abuse of the non-profit status of the organization by the fired member. Does the term "under the table" mean anything to you? This whole episode with the web site and the feuding is all about a cover-up. Of course the organization wants rid of a possible huge liability but said liability thinks only about its own hurt pride. I understand Perez has even been talking to an F. Lee Bailey type (shhhhh! don't tell anybody). Can you expand your rigid mind to encompass such a scenario? It happens all the time. Usually greed is at the core of the misdoings. Greed and a total disregard for the law. This is how liberals think - laws are for somebody else. Wilbur Hubbard Are you saying he might have been outed because of corruption? That the possibility of operating a non profit for personal benefit was going on? Personal enurement? How could that happen? How would he get the "beancounter" to go along? Naahh... I can't say one way or the other due to the possibility of ongoing legal issues. I sure don't wish to run afoul of any F. Lee Bailey types or the FBI. Even barely competent, bottom-rungers like our Dapper Dave could cause some small measure of grief. You've got me to thinking with your observations above. Viewed in that light, my prior observations do seem quite absurd. As far as Gaynze operating a non-profit for personal gain, you're right, that's ludicrous. Think, Wilbur, think! If a person could operate "anything" for personal gain would he still be living at home with Mommy at close to fifty years of age? Would he still have Mommy fighting all his legal battles pro-bono? I think not. And, besides, with his documented history of 10X strength LSD dropping he can get out of anything simply by using an insanity plea. In this case, as in any other case, Gaynze can be nothing other than the innocent victim. If he did happen to profit from a non-profit I'm sure it was totally unintentional. I'm sure he "meant well" and isn't that what really matters? The more I ruminate upon the matter the more I think you might be right about how there's no way Gaynze could do any wrong either intentionally or unintentionally. The man is just way too intelligent for that to happen. Not to mention the fact that he has impeccable moral standards. As usual, though, it's way more likely that he's being implicated in a conspiracy for the wrongdoings of people out to get him. So, Momsen, I stand corrected and I offer my sincere apologies to the Capt. for not having my facts straight at first and jumping to false conclusions. I've always been a sucker for a good conspiracy theory. I think Jonathan is telling the truth. It's just like he says it is. It was a conspiracy and mutiny against him. The loser half wits tossed him overboard to run the show. He should up the ante to get reinstated back into his rightful and hard earned position. Those people who voted against should be publicly flogged, keel hauled and made to walk the plank! Jonathan, don't give up the ship or the financial records! Agreed! One cannot argue with your many years of wisdom, Admiral. Keep up the good work. You have restored my faith in humanity. Wilbur Hubbard |
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"Wilbur Hubbard" wrote in message anews.com... "Charles Momsen" wrote in message ... "Wilbur Hubbard" wrote in message anews.com... "Charles Momsen" wrote in message ... "Shad O'Shay" wrote in message ... This person sounds like a paranoid, revengeful nut case. (and I ain't talking about Perez) Wow! http://www.sailsea.org/ Be careful where you go to learn how to sail. Shad O'Shay Jonathan did a job no one else wanted (at no pay) for 5 years. He grew the outfit in size and scope. Many people benefitted from his hard work. He was the only one qualified to teach the larger and harder classes. The non profit was nominated for a prestigious award with him at the helm. He's got an MBA AND USCG captain's license, two combined qualifications that are hard to find. It was HIS vision and HIS hard, selfless work. Now that things are up and running smoothly a bunch of ingrate wannabes wanted to take over and take over they did. It wasn't a simple vote that got him outed, it was a deliberate conspiracy. Jonathan shouldn't go back, he is only lowering himself to their standards. He might do much better creating a new, competing non profit with iron clad bylaws that don't allow others to commandeer the ship. It won't be the same if he goes back, hurt feelings and grudges usually can never be put aside. Be the better man and take the high road, it will serve you well in the long term. He may have made mistakes, he has admitted them and now he can use what he has learned to do much, much better. Anger and resentment are based upon things of the past, hope and vigor are for the future! Carry the torch forward and may it shine brightly upon all! Admiral Momsen Good grief, Momsen, have you taken leave of your senses? Have you been drinking the liberal Kool Aid? Have you been smoking some of that there wacky tobaccy? Or perhaps you got ahold of some of Gaynze's 10X strength LSD? Get a grip on yourself, Admiral! Next thing you know, if you keep spouting such nonsense, Obama will come schlepping around and appoint you to head the Joint Chiefs of Staff! You need to get a clue. There's some behind-the-scenes information I am privy to which sheds an entirely new light upon this situation. I can't be specific at this time but it concerns possible abuse of the non-profit status of the organization by the fired member. Does the term "under the table" mean anything to you? This whole episode with the web site and the feuding is all about a cover-up. Of course the organization wants rid of a possible huge liability but said liability thinks only about its own hurt pride. I understand Perez has even been talking to an F. Lee Bailey type (shhhhh! don't tell anybody). Can you expand your rigid mind to encompass such a scenario? It happens all the time. Usually greed is at the core of the misdoings. Greed and a total disregard for the law. This is how liberals think - laws are for somebody else. Wilbur Hubbard Are you saying he might have been outed because of corruption? That the possibility of operating a non profit for personal benefit was going on? Personal enurement? How could that happen? How would he get the "beancounter" to go along? Naahh... I can't say one way or the other due to the possibility of ongoing legal issues. I sure don't wish to run afoul of any F. Lee Bailey types or the FBI. Even barely competent, bottom-rungers like our Dapper Dave could cause some small measure of grief. You've got me to thinking with your observations above. Viewed in that light, my prior observations do seem quite absurd. As far as Gaynze operating a non-profit for personal gain, you're right, that's ludicrous. Think, Wilbur, think! If a person could operate "anything" for personal gain would he still be living at home with Mommy at close to fifty years of age? Would he still have Mommy fighting all his legal battles pro-bono? I think not. And, besides, with his documented history of 10X strength LSD dropping he can get out of anything simply by using an insanity plea. In this case, as in any other case, Gaynze can be nothing other than the innocent victim. If he did happen to profit from a non-profit I'm sure it was totally unintentional. I'm sure he "meant well" and isn't that what really matters? The more I ruminate upon the matter the more I think you might be right about how there's no way Gaynze could do any wrong either intentionally or unintentionally. The man is just way too intelligent for that to happen. Not to mention the fact that he has impeccable moral standards. As usual, though, it's way more likely that he's being implicated in a conspiracy for the wrongdoings of people out to get him. So, Momsen, I stand corrected and I offer my sincere apologies to the Capt. for not having my facts straight at first and jumping to false conclusions. I've always been a sucker for a good conspiracy theory. I think Jonathan is telling the truth. It's just like he says it is. It was a conspiracy and mutiny against him. The loser half wits tossed him overboard to run the show. He should up the ante to get reinstated back into his rightful and hard earned position. Those people who voted against should be publicly flogged, keel hauled and made to walk the plank! Jonathan, don't give up the ship or the financial records! Agreed! One cannot argue with your many years of wisdom, Admiral. Keep up the good work. You have restored my faith in humanity. Wilbur Hubbard Jonathan is an honorable man. |
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"Charles Momsen" wrote in message ... "Wilbur Hubbard" wrote in message anews.com... "Charles Momsen" wrote in message ... "Wilbur Hubbard" wrote in message anews.com... "Charles Momsen" wrote in message ... "Shad O'Shay" wrote in message ... This person sounds like a paranoid, revengeful nut case. (and I ain't talking about Perez) Wow! http://www.sailsea.org/ Be careful where you go to learn how to sail. Shad O'Shay Jonathan did a job no one else wanted (at no pay) for 5 years. He grew the outfit in size and scope. Many people benefitted from his hard work. He was the only one qualified to teach the larger and harder classes. The non profit was nominated for a prestigious award with him at the helm. He's got an MBA AND USCG captain's license, two combined qualifications that are hard to find. It was HIS vision and HIS hard, selfless work. Now that things are up and running smoothly a bunch of ingrate wannabes wanted to take over and take over they did. It wasn't a simple vote that got him outed, it was a deliberate conspiracy. Jonathan shouldn't go back, he is only lowering himself to their standards. He might do much better creating a new, competing non profit with iron clad bylaws that don't allow others to commandeer the ship. It won't be the same if he goes back, hurt feelings and grudges usually can never be put aside. Be the better man and take the high road, it will serve you well in the long term. He may have made mistakes, he has admitted them and now he can use what he has learned to do much, much better. Anger and resentment are based upon things of the past, hope and vigor are for the future! Carry the torch forward and may it shine brightly upon all! Admiral Momsen Good grief, Momsen, have you taken leave of your senses? Have you been drinking the liberal Kool Aid? Have you been smoking some of that there wacky tobaccy? Or perhaps you got ahold of some of Gaynze's 10X strength LSD? Get a grip on yourself, Admiral! Next thing you know, if you keep spouting such nonsense, Obama will come schlepping around and appoint you to head the Joint Chiefs of Staff! You need to get a clue. There's some behind-the-scenes information I am privy to which sheds an entirely new light upon this situation. I can't be specific at this time but it concerns possible abuse of the non-profit status of the organization by the fired member. Does the term "under the table" mean anything to you? This whole episode with the web site and the feuding is all about a cover-up. Of course the organization wants rid of a possible huge liability but said liability thinks only about its own hurt pride. I understand Perez has even been talking to an F. Lee Bailey type (shhhhh! don't tell anybody). Can you expand your rigid mind to encompass such a scenario? It happens all the time. Usually greed is at the core of the misdoings. Greed and a total disregard for the law. This is how liberals think - laws are for somebody else. Wilbur Hubbard Are you saying he might have been outed because of corruption? That the possibility of operating a non profit for personal benefit was going on? Personal enurement? How could that happen? How would he get the "beancounter" to go along? Naahh... I can't say one way or the other due to the possibility of ongoing legal issues. I sure don't wish to run afoul of any F. Lee Bailey types or the FBI. Even barely competent, bottom-rungers like our Dapper Dave could cause some small measure of grief. You've got me to thinking with your observations above. Viewed in that light, my prior observations do seem quite absurd. As far as Gaynze operating a non-profit for personal gain, you're right, that's ludicrous. Think, Wilbur, think! If a person could operate "anything" for personal gain would he still be living at home with Mommy at close to fifty years of age? Would he still have Mommy fighting all his legal battles pro-bono? I think not. And, besides, with his documented history of 10X strength LSD dropping he can get out of anything simply by using an insanity plea. In this case, as in any other case, Gaynze can be nothing other than the innocent victim. If he did happen to profit from a non-profit I'm sure it was totally unintentional. I'm sure he "meant well" and isn't that what really matters? The more I ruminate upon the matter the more I think you might be right about how there's no way Gaynze could do any wrong either intentionally or unintentionally. The man is just way too intelligent for that to happen. Not to mention the fact that he has impeccable moral standards. As usual, though, it's way more likely that he's being implicated in a conspiracy for the wrongdoings of people out to get him. So, Momsen, I stand corrected and I offer my sincere apologies to the Capt. for not having my facts straight at first and jumping to false conclusions. I've always been a sucker for a good conspiracy theory. I think Jonathan is telling the truth. It's just like he says it is. It was a conspiracy and mutiny against him. The loser half wits tossed him overboard to run the show. He should up the ante to get reinstated back into his rightful and hard earned position. Those people who voted against should be publicly flogged, keel hauled and made to walk the plank! Jonathan, don't give up the ship or the financial records! Agreed! One cannot argue with your many years of wisdom, Admiral. Keep up the good work. You have restored my faith in humanity. Wilbur Hubbard Jonathan is an honorable man. Check your spelling. The correct way to spell it is 'homosexual." Wilbur Hubbard |
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"Shad O'Shay" wrote in message ... This person sounds like a paranoid, revengeful nut case. (and I ain't talking about Perez) Wow! http://www.sailsea.org/ Be careful where you go to learn how to sail. Shad O'Shay Awwwww! Page not found. Maybe he got ashamed and took it down? Did anybody think to archive it? Wilbur Hubbard |
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"Wilbur Hubbard" wrote in message anews.com... "Shad O'Shay" wrote in message ... This person sounds like a paranoid, revengeful nut case. (and I ain't talking about Perez) Wow! http://www.sailsea.org/ Be careful where you go to learn how to sail. Shad O'Shay Awwwww! Page not found. Maybe he got ashamed and took it down? Did anybody think to archive it? Wilbur Hubbard It's still there, you silly person. |
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"KLC Lewis" wrote in message
... troll sh*t removed It's still there, you silly person. I'm telling you... you've got to remember who you're dealing with. Neal is a known liar, a stalker, and a very angry guy. Ignoring him is the ticket. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com |
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"Capt. JG" wrote in message easolutions... "KLC Lewis" wrote in message ... troll sh*t removed It's still there, you silly person. I'm telling you... you've got to remember who you're dealing with. Neal is a known liar, a stalker, and a very angry guy. Ignoring him is the ticket. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com He's right! But don't ignore this: www.sailsea.org No lies! No stalking! Absolutely no anger! Jonathan is an honorable man. |
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"KLC Lewis" wrote in message ... "Wilbur Hubbard" wrote in message anews.com... "Shad O'Shay" wrote in message ... This person sounds like a paranoid, revengeful nut case. (and I ain't talking about Perez) Wow! http://www.sailsea.org/ Be careful where you go to learn how to sail. Shad O'Shay Awwwww! Page not found. Maybe he got ashamed and took it down? Did anybody think to archive it? Wilbur Hubbard It's still there, you silly person. It must have been the anonymous proxy I was using to access it. The proxy must have been down temporarily. Did you know if you log onto http://www.sailsea.org/ directly your IP number gets logged and the Gay One then has a record he can access so he can harass your and/or your internet service provider? NEVER access any Gay One-run site unless through an anonymous proxy. I insist upon using tested, high anonymous proxies, myself, just in case. Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice shame on ME. Wilbur Hubbard |
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A.S.A *DROPPED* owing to kook factor there.
It must have been the anonymous proxy I was using to access it. The proxy must have been down temporarily. Did you know if you log onto http://www.sailsea.org/ directly your IP number gets logged and the Gay One then has a record he can access so he can harass your and/or your internet service provider? NEVER access any Gay One-run site unless through an anonymous proxy. I insist upon using tested, high anonymous proxies, myself, just in case. Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice shame on ME. Wilbur Hubbard So whats the big deal, Wilma? If JG was nuttier than you, he could port knock my IP addy till he's blue in the face without getting anywhere. My ISP wont act on unsubstantiated allegations either. I continue to freely admit I live in London, UK and my IP addy wont localise that any further. If I posted libellous material defaming him or otherwise abused him on the groups he might attempt some sort of action against me with cause, but I leave that sort of sh1t to yourself and your virtual 'friends'. On the few occasions I've commented on a thread JG has been participating in, he has always been perfectly civilized. I bet some NSA geek is ROTFLAO at your antics on one of the proxies they have backdoored :-) Jonathan, if you are still in this cesspool of a thread, Merry Christmass and best wishes for the New Year. Ian ('Stingo' Albacore #1554) |
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"IanM" wrote in message ... A.S.A *DROPPED* owing to kook factor there. It must have been the anonymous proxy I was using to access it. The proxy must have been down temporarily. Did you know if you log onto http://www.sailsea.org/ directly your IP number gets logged and the Gay One then has a record he can access so he can harass your and/or your internet service provider? NEVER access any Gay One-run site unless through an anonymous proxy. I insist upon using tested, high anonymous proxies, myself, just in case. Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice shame on ME. Wilbur Hubbard So whats the big deal, Wilma? If JG was nuttier than you, he could port knock my IP addy till he's blue in the face without getting anywhere. My ISP wont act on unsubstantiated allegations either. But they might well terminate your account if they kept receiving bogus but valid-looking legal threats via e-mail. They just might decide your little monthly payment wasn't worth the time they were having to spend defending you, let alone the expense of threatened litigation. Jonathan's netcop activities have gotten more than one person he disliked terminated from their ISP. Do you recall one Capt. Mooron? He was one such victim and all he did was repeatedly call the Gay One gay! Sadly, Capt. Mooron only had one ISP available there in Canada in the rural area where he lived. So why take chances? He's done it once so what makes you think he won't do it again? Do a little checking on him and you will see he spends his entire life engaged in this type of netcop activities. If it's not a neighborhood association whining about power poles and substations, it's some whacko greenie committee complaining about noise from low-flying airplanes on final approach over some lake. He's a crybaby with a mother who does his lawyering for him. I continue to freely admit I live in London, UK and my IP addy wont localise that any further. If I posted libellous material defaming him or otherwise abused him on the groups he might attempt some sort of action against me with cause, but I leave that sort of sh1t to yourself and your virtual 'friends'. On the few occasions I've commented on a thread JG has been participating in, he has always been perfectly civilized. Oh grow up. The Gay One knows the following and he's none too bright. You claim you're smart and you don't realize there comes a time when most any ISP or NSP decides he or she's spending way too much time responding to continued abuse complaints from anal-retentive types (and their buddies who gang mail unknowing NSP) so the best solution for them is to lose the offending customer even if the customer has done nothing illegal or against the rules. Read most any NSP's AUP/TOS and you will see you sign all your rights away when you accept the terms. Everything is up to interpretation. It is far better to disallow a bunch of such bogus complaints to your ISP especially. Make the fool write to your NSP but get a good one who knows the Gay One's past history of flooding with bogus abuse complaints then he'll be roundly ignored and laughed at for his antics. I bet some NSA geek is ROTFLAO at your antics on one of the proxies they have backdoored :-) Not very likely. More likely it's the other way around. Wilbur Hubbard |
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"IanM" wrote in message
... A.S.A *DROPPED* owing to kook factor there. It must have been the anonymous proxy I was using to access it. The proxy must have been down temporarily. Did you know if you log onto http://www.sailsea.org/ directly your IP number gets logged and the Gay One then has a record he can access so he can harass your and/or your internet service provider? NEVER access any Gay One-run site unless through an anonymous proxy. I insist upon using tested, high anonymous proxies, myself, just in case. Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice shame on ME. Wilbur Hubbard So whats the big deal, Wilma? If JG was nuttier than you, he could port knock my IP addy till he's blue in the face without getting anywhere. My ISP wont act on unsubstantiated allegations either. I continue to freely admit I live in London, UK and my IP addy wont localise that any further. If I posted libellous material defaming him or otherwise abused him on the groups he might attempt some sort of action against me with cause, but I leave that sort of sh1t to yourself and your virtual 'friends'. On the few occasions I've commented on a thread JG has been participating in, he has always been perfectly civilized. I bet some NSA geek is ROTFLAO at your antics on one of the proxies they have backdoored :-) Jonathan, if you are still in this cesspool of a thread, Merry Christmass and best wishes for the New Year. Ian ('Stingo' Albacore #1554) Hey! I suppose I am. :-) Same for you Ian... I hope all is well and that you're going to have a fun and safe holiday! You're of course correct. Neal continues to make a fool out of himself, which was at one time an interesting diversion, but he's gotten to the point where he can only be described as pathetic. I just sh*tcan him. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com |
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