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On Tue, 16 Dec 2008 16:39:41 -0700, "Charles Momsen"
wrote: "Wilbur Hubbard" wrote in message tanews.com... "Charles Momsen" wrote in message ... "Shad O'Shay" wrote in message ... This person sounds like a paranoid, revengeful nut case. (and I ain't talking about Perez) Wow! http://www.sailsea.org/ Be careful where you go to learn how to sail. Shad O'Shay Jonathan did a job no one else wanted (at no pay) for 5 years. He grew the outfit in size and scope. Many people benefitted from his hard work. He was the only one qualified to teach the larger and harder classes. The non profit was nominated for a prestigious award with him at the helm. He's got an MBA AND USCG captain's license, two combined qualifications that are hard to find. It was HIS vision and HIS hard, selfless work. Now that things are up and running smoothly a bunch of ingrate wannabes wanted to take over and take over they did. It wasn't a simple vote that got him outed, it was a deliberate conspiracy. Jonathan shouldn't go back, he is only lowering himself to their standards. He might do much better creating a new, competing non profit with iron clad bylaws that don't allow others to commandeer the ship. It won't be the same if he goes back, hurt feelings and grudges usually can never be put aside. Be the better man and take the high road, it will serve you well in the long term. He may have made mistakes, he has admitted them and now he can use what he has learned to do much, much better. Anger and resentment are based upon things of the past, hope and vigor are for the future! Carry the torch forward and may it shine brightly upon all! Admiral Momsen Good grief, Momsen, have you taken leave of your senses? Have you been drinking the liberal Kool Aid? Have you been smoking some of that there wacky tobaccy? Or perhaps you got ahold of some of Gaynze's 10X strength LSD? Get a grip on yourself, Admiral! Next thing you know, if you keep spouting such nonsense, Obama will come schlepping around and appoint you to head the Joint Chiefs of Staff! You need to get a clue. There's some behind-the-scenes information I am privy to which sheds an entirely new light upon this situation. I can't be specific at this time but it concerns possible abuse of the non-profit status of the organization by the fired member. Does the term "under the table" mean anything to you? This whole episode with the web site and the feuding is all about a cover-up. Of course the organization wants rid of a possible huge liability but said liability thinks only about its own hurt pride. I understand Perez has even been talking to an F. Lee Bailey type (shhhhh! don't tell anybody). Can you expand your rigid mind to encompass such a scenario? It happens all the time. Usually greed is at the core of the misdoings. Greed and a total disregard for the law. This is how liberals think - laws are for somebody else. Wilbur Hubbard Are you saying he might have been outed because of corruption? That the possibility of operating a non profit for personal benefit was going on? Personal enurement? How could that happen? How would he get the "beancounter" to go along? Naahh... I think Jonathan is telling the truth. It's just like he says it is. It was a conspiracy and mutiny against him. The loser half wits tossed him overboard to run the show. He should up the ante to get reinstated back into his rightful and hard earned position. Those people who voted against should be publicly flogged, keel hauled and made to walk the plank! Jonathan, don't give up the ship or the financial records! Is this Neal talking to Wilbur and each replying to the other? Is that what is called a circle-jerk amongst "real sailors"? Cheers, Bruce (bruceinbangkokatgmaildotcom) |
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"Bruce In Bangkok" wrote in message
... troll sh*t removed Is this Neal talking to Wilbur and each replying to the other? Is that what is called a circle-jerk amongst "real sailors"? Cheers, Bruce (bruceinbangkokatgmaildotcom) It's actually two stalkers/trolls. However, I think that you gave a proper definition. These guys are pretty sad examples of humanity. Neal is an angry guy with no prospects of much of anything, so with him, anything goes. The other guy is smarter, which isn't saying much, and attempts to disrupt people's lives for fun. As I've said, the best advice is to completely ignore them, as I try to do. This serves two purposes. It infuriates them and you don't have to read their crap. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com |
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Capt. JG wrote:
"Bruce In Bangkok" wrote in message ... troll sh*t removed Is this Neal talking to Wilbur and each replying to the other? Is that what is called a circle-jerk amongst "real sailors"? Cheers, Bruce (bruceinbangkokatgmaildotcom) It's actually two stalkers/trolls. However, I think that you gave a proper definition. These guys are pretty sad examples of humanity. Neal is an angry guy with no prospects of much of anything, so with him, anything goes. The other guy is smarter, which isn't saying much, and attempts to disrupt people's lives for fun. That pretty much sums it up, Momsen can be, well, 'difficult'. Why he has chosen the name of a deceased USN Admiral who invented a rescue device for submariners (look up "Momsen Lung") I have no idea As I've said, the best advice is to completely ignore them, as I try to do. This serves two purposes. It infuriates them and you don't have to read their crap. Sound advice., Cheers Martin |
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"Capt. JG" wrote in message easolutions... "Bruce In Bangkok" wrote in message ... troll sh*t removed Is this Neal talking to Wilbur and each replying to the other? Is that what is called a circle-jerk amongst "real sailors"? Cheers, Bruce (bruceinbangkokatgmaildotcom) It's actually two stalkers/trolls. However, I think that you gave a proper definition. These guys are pretty sad examples of humanity. Neal is an angry guy with no prospects of much of anything, so with him, anything goes. The other guy is smarter, which isn't saying much, and attempts to disrupt people's lives for fun. As I've said, the best advice is to completely ignore them, as I try to do. This serves two purposes. It infuriates them and you don't have to read their crap. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com Yes, ignore them! |
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Nomen Nescio wrote:
Such same that so few are educated in the Classic Languages,.... Lector Emptor Cheers Martin |
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Marty wrote:
Nomen Nescio wrote: Such same that so few are educated in the Classic Languages,.... Lector Emptor Whoops! One drink too many,,,,Such Shame,,,,,,Lector Caveat Cheers Martin |
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"Marty" wrote in message ... Marty wrote: Nomen Nescio wrote: Such same that so few are educated in the Classic Languages,.... Lector Emptor Whoops! One drink too many,,,,Such Shame,,,,,,Lector Caveat Cheers Martin Braccae tuae hiant |
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Billy Redden wrote:
"Marty" wrote in message ... Marty wrote: Nomen Nescio wrote: Such same that so few are educated in the Classic Languages,.... Lector Emptor Whoops! One drink too many,,,,Such Shame,,,,,,Lector Caveat Cheers Martin Braccae tuae hiant Well, they might have had buttons,,,, but not with a toga Cheers Martin |
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"Charles Momsen" wrote in message ... "Wilbur Hubbard" wrote in message anews.com... "Charles Momsen" wrote in message ... "Shad O'Shay" wrote in message ... This person sounds like a paranoid, revengeful nut case. (and I ain't talking about Perez) Wow! http://www.sailsea.org/ Be careful where you go to learn how to sail. Shad O'Shay Jonathan did a job no one else wanted (at no pay) for 5 years. He grew the outfit in size and scope. Many people benefitted from his hard work. He was the only one qualified to teach the larger and harder classes. The non profit was nominated for a prestigious award with him at the helm. He's got an MBA AND USCG captain's license, two combined qualifications that are hard to find. It was HIS vision and HIS hard, selfless work. Now that things are up and running smoothly a bunch of ingrate wannabes wanted to take over and take over they did. It wasn't a simple vote that got him outed, it was a deliberate conspiracy. Jonathan shouldn't go back, he is only lowering himself to their standards. He might do much better creating a new, competing non profit with iron clad bylaws that don't allow others to commandeer the ship. It won't be the same if he goes back, hurt feelings and grudges usually can never be put aside. Be the better man and take the high road, it will serve you well in the long term. He may have made mistakes, he has admitted them and now he can use what he has learned to do much, much better. Anger and resentment are based upon things of the past, hope and vigor are for the future! Carry the torch forward and may it shine brightly upon all! Admiral Momsen Good grief, Momsen, have you taken leave of your senses? Have you been drinking the liberal Kool Aid? Have you been smoking some of that there wacky tobaccy? Or perhaps you got ahold of some of Gaynze's 10X strength LSD? Get a grip on yourself, Admiral! Next thing you know, if you keep spouting such nonsense, Obama will come schlepping around and appoint you to head the Joint Chiefs of Staff! You need to get a clue. There's some behind-the-scenes information I am privy to which sheds an entirely new light upon this situation. I can't be specific at this time but it concerns possible abuse of the non-profit status of the organization by the fired member. Does the term "under the table" mean anything to you? This whole episode with the web site and the feuding is all about a cover-up. Of course the organization wants rid of a possible huge liability but said liability thinks only about its own hurt pride. I understand Perez has even been talking to an F. Lee Bailey type (shhhhh! don't tell anybody). Can you expand your rigid mind to encompass such a scenario? It happens all the time. Usually greed is at the core of the misdoings. Greed and a total disregard for the law. This is how liberals think - laws are for somebody else. Wilbur Hubbard Are you saying he might have been outed because of corruption? That the possibility of operating a non profit for personal benefit was going on? Personal enurement? How could that happen? How would he get the "beancounter" to go along? Naahh... I can't say one way or the other due to the possibility of ongoing legal issues. I sure don't wish to run afoul of any F. Lee Bailey types or the FBI. Even barely competent, bottom-rungers like our Dapper Dave could cause some small measure of grief. You've got me to thinking with your observations above. Viewed in that light, my prior observations do seem quite absurd. As far as Gaynze operating a non-profit for personal gain, you're right, that's ludicrous. Think, Wilbur, think! If a person could operate "anything" for personal gain would he still be living at home with Mommy at close to fifty years of age? Would he still have Mommy fighting all his legal battles pro-bono? I think not. And, besides, with his documented history of 10X strength LSD dropping he can get out of anything simply by using an insanity plea. In this case, as in any other case, Gaynze can be nothing other than the innocent victim. If he did happen to profit from a non-profit I'm sure it was totally unintentional. I'm sure he "meant well" and isn't that what really matters? The more I ruminate upon the matter the more I think you might be right about how there's no way Gaynze could do any wrong either intentionally or unintentionally. The man is just way too intelligent for that to happen. Not to mention the fact that he has impeccable moral standards. As usual, though, it's way more likely that he's being implicated in a conspiracy for the wrongdoings of people out to get him. So, Momsen, I stand corrected and I offer my sincere apologies to the Capt. for not having my facts straight at first and jumping to false conclusions. I've always been a sucker for a good conspiracy theory. I think Jonathan is telling the truth. It's just like he says it is. It was a conspiracy and mutiny against him. The loser half wits tossed him overboard to run the show. He should up the ante to get reinstated back into his rightful and hard earned position. Those people who voted against should be publicly flogged, keel hauled and made to walk the plank! Jonathan, don't give up the ship or the financial records! Agreed! One cannot argue with your many years of wisdom, Admiral. Keep up the good work. You have restored my faith in humanity. Wilbur Hubbard |
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