Gel coat Blisters below water line, forward, near bow
 

For you experts:: if a boat has a few,, blisters in the gel below
water line, forward toward the bow ??

Is this a "run away fast" boat?

Or,, are the blisters a fix it item.

Gel coat Blisters below water line, forward, near bow
 

wrote in message
...
On Thu, 11 Dec 2008 12:51:41 GMT, "Janet O'Leary"
wrote:

For you experts:: if a boat has a few,, blisters in the gel below
water line, forward toward the bow ??

Is this a "run away fast" boat?

Or,, are the blisters a fix it item.


I can't see them from here, but it doesn't sound very serious. If the
problem was very widespread, you might be looking at substantial work,
but boats don't seem to sink from blisteres, even if fairly severe.
They should be fixed, however. now would be a good time to grind them
open so they can dry all winter.




Once ground out and dried, and the rest of the bottom stripped and prepped,
fill the former blisters with thickened epoxy, then epoxy barrier-coat the
entire bottom. New bottom paint and Bob's your uncle.

Gel coat Blisters below water line, forward, near bow
 

Janet,
You will not really know if the blisters are behind the gel coat or within
the lamination until you open them up. Please examine them very closely to
deterime the ingress point of the water. Until these questions can be
answered, you really do not know the extent of the damage. For instance a
gelcoat blister is not an issue, but if the blister is actually in the
lamination, the damage can be very costly, even terminal.
Steve

"Janet O'Leary" wrote in message
...
For you experts:: if a boat has a few,, blisters in the gel below
water line, forward toward the bow ??

Is this a "run away fast" boat?

Or,, are the blisters a fix it item.

Gel coat Blisters below water line, forward, near bow
 

wrote in message
...
On 11 Dec 2008 11:20:01 -0600, Dave wrote:

On Thu, 11 Dec 2008 17:47:11 +0100, "Steve Lusardi"

said:

but if the blister is actually in the
lamination, the damage can be very costly, even terminal.

What is the basis for that conclusion? Personal observation? Sea stories?

Too much coffee?

I've seen some very bad cases of "boat pox," but even in the worst of them,
they weren't "terminal." Perhaps not impossible, but it's hard for me to
imagine a case of blisters that far gone.

Gel coat Blisters below water line, forward, near bow
 

"Janet O'Leary" wrote:
For you experts:: *if a boat has a few,, blisters in the gel below
water line, forward toward the bow ??

Is this a "run away fast" boat?

Or,, are the blisters a fix it item.

Depends on how bad the blisters are, once they are opened up & closely
inspected.... and how much of a price discount the owner/seller is
giving.

Blisters vary tremendously in severity & cost. It's said that "no boat
ever sank from blisters" but I've seen golfball-sized blisters that
left very little believable structural integrity. I've also seen
blisters fixed by "professionals" in an incredibly shoddy manner, then
hidden under anti-fouling paint. It's not difficult but it's tedious
labor. The shops that really do it right offer a guarantee but they
also charge a lot.

Fresh Breezes- Doug King

Gel coat Blisters below water line, forward, near bow
 

On Thu, 11 Dec 2008 12:51:41 GMT, "Janet O'Leary"
wrote:

For you experts:: if a boat has a few,, blisters in the gel below
water line, forward toward the bow ??

Is this a "run away fast" boat?

Or,, are the blisters a fix it item.


It depends.

Here's a good starting point:

http://www.yachtsurvey.com/BuyingBlisterBoat.htm

More he

http://www.yachtsurvey.com/blisters.htm

Gel coat Blisters below water line, forward, near bow
 

On Dec 11, 2:00 pm, Wayne.B wrote:
On Thu, 11 Dec 2008 12:51:41 GMT, "Janet O'Leary"

wrote:
For you experts:: if a boat has a few,, blisters in the gel below
water line, forward toward the bow ??

Is this a "run away fast" boat?

Or,, are the blisters a fix it item.

It depends.

Here's a good starting point:

http://www.yachtsurvey.com/BuyingBlisterBoat.htm

More he

http://www.yachtsurvey.com/blisters.htm

Ignore them and do not try to "fix" them. ALL fixes regardless of how
they are done are far worse than the blisters themselves and fixes
rarely work. Blisters simply are not a problem at all. There has
never been a case of gel coat blisters causing structural problems and
I defy anybody to show such a case. I Once re-did the entire bottom
of a boat that was blistered by grinding and them filling with epoxy
and epoxying the entire hull and then realized that it was a waste of
time and money. The blisters were not any problem at all although
they were all over the hull. Gel coat blisters are simply not a real
problem.

Gel coat Blisters below water line, forward, near bow
 

Dave wrote in
:

On Thu, 11 Dec 2008 17:47:11 +0100, "Steve Lusardi"
said:

but if the blister is actually in the
lamination, the damage can be very costly, even terminal.

What is the basis for that conclusion? Personal observation? Sea
stories?


I've been around some kind of boats all my life. Before I started
having something to do with expensive motor and sailing yachts, I never
saw a blister on any old boat. That's a personal observation from over
50 years.

The part about "lamination" is also interesting, given manufacturing of
boats anyone can afford are done with a chopper gun in a mold, now, not
hand laid fiberglass for a decade or two. I don't ever remember seeing
a blister on the cheapest boats like Bayliner, but I suppose stuff
happens.

Should run faster full of blisters to roughen the surface and break
surface tension.

Gel coat Blisters below water line, forward, near bow
 

On Thu, 11 Dec 2008 12:29:45 -0800 (PST), Frogwatch
wrote:

The blisters were not any problem at all although
they were all over the hull. Gel coat blisters are simply not a real
problem.

They are a very real problem if you care about boat speed in light
air, or if you ever want to sell the boat.

Gel coat Blisters below water line, forward, near bow
 

On Thu, 11 Dec 2008 20:41:47 +0000, Larry wrote:

I don't ever remember seeing
a blister on the cheapest boats like Bayliner, but I suppose stuff
happens.

They typically fail from stringer or transom rot, sometimes decks,
floors or bulkheads.

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Wayne.B wrote in
:

On Thu, 11 Dec 2008 20:41:47 +0000, Larry wrote:

I don't ever remember seeing
a blister on the cheapest boats like Bayliner, but I suppose stuff
happens.

They typically fail from stringer or transom rot, sometimes decks,
floors or bulkheads.



Once again, we're all showing our ages by assuming, wrongly I believe, that
there ARE stringers and wooden transoms, which I don't think is the case
any more with that chopper gun spraying into the mold. When I was watching
him do it, here, I didn't see any wood to rot at all!

They were wood when we had that wonderful hand laid fiberglass we were
taught was of such high quality....which it obviously wasn't as it rotted.

Gel coat Blisters below water line, forward, near bow
 

On Fri, 12 Dec 2008 01:33:52 +0000, Larry wrote:

Wayne.B wrote in
:

On Thu, 11 Dec 2008 20:41:47 +0000, Larry wrote:

I don't ever remember seeing
a blister on the cheapest boats like Bayliner, but I suppose stuff
happens.

They typically fail from stringer or transom rot, sometimes decks,
floors or bulkheads.



Once again, we're all showing our ages by assuming, wrongly I believe, that
there ARE stringers and wooden transoms, which I don't think is the case
any more with that chopper gun spraying into the mold. When I was watching
him do it, here, I didn't see any wood to rot at all!

They were wood when we had that wonderful hand laid fiberglass we were
taught was of such high quality....which it obviously wasn't as it rotted.

Plenty of boats are hand-laid glass.
The lowly Mac 26 for one.
They still have balsa too, I think, but there are boats now using
non-rotting composites for transoms/stringers.
Ranger for one, I believe, maybe Carolina Skiff.
Chopper-guns are avoided by quality boat makers.
It pays to know how any boat you're considering was put together.
Balsa/plywood rot is a hell of a lot more serious problem than
blisters.
That's what I've read, anyway. Never saw a boat blister in person.

--Vic

Gel coat Blisters below water line, forward, near bow
 

On Dec 11, 2:00*pm, Wayne.B wrote:
On Thu, 11 Dec 2008 12:51:41 GMT, "Janet O'Leary"

wrote:
For you experts:: *if a boat has a few,, blisters in the gel below
water line, forward toward the bow ??

Is this a "run away fast" boat?

Or,, are the blisters a fix it item.

It depends.

Here's a good starting point:

http://www.yachtsurvey.com/BuyingBlisterBoat.htm

More he

http://www.yachtsurvey.com/blisters.htm

FWIW, I happen to know the subject Morgan 46 this surveyor trashed.
Not mine, but a friend who shall remain nameless - and the boat is one
I'd love to have. I've also peeled back many layers of delam from
blisters on our boat over time, not to mention the wreck's delam. The
blisters weren't enough to sink a boat - but Don Casey, whose opinion
I respect, has interesting things to say about moisture and
delamination and the potential for serious damage. His info suggests
water in, rather than out of, the boat, is more serious an issue WRT
delam...

Not seeing the boat, I'd have to say it's not a problem, based on the
description. We ground out and repaired 800 on ours before we
launched. Following that, it survived a rather spectacular wreck...

L8R

Skip and Crew

Gel coat Blisters below water line, forward, near bow
 

Why are you asking these 1980's questions? The answer to all your
queries is the same... rub some cowflap on your cheeks and it will all
go away.

Gel coat Blisters below water line, forward, near bow
 

On Thu, 11 Dec 2008 20:53:10 -0600, Vic Smith
wrote:

They still have balsa too, I think, but there are boats now using
non-rotting composites for transoms/stringers.

The original question was about Bayliners. The vast majority, of not
all, have plywood transoms and stringers. Some of their bulkeads are
fibreboard.

Gel coat Blisters below water line, forward, near bow
 

Vic Smith wrote in
:

That's what I've read, anyway. Never saw a boat blister in person.



I don't think I've seen a single sailboat hauled out in Charleston without
them. Our water is awful warm all summer and full of prehistoric critters
that bite like hell when cleaned out of the air conditioner strainers at
the dock. Any marina here is a massive ecosystem unto itself, dispite
everyone peeing over the side and dumping crap down the sink. The crabbing
under the dock is rated OUTSTANDING for Blue Crabs....yum...yum!

Gel coat Blisters below water line, forward, near bow
 

wrote in message
...
Why are you asking these 1980's questions? The answer to all your
queries is the same... rub some cowflap on your cheeks and it will all
go away.
Maybe she's a 1980's kind of girl...

Gel coat Blisters below water line, forward, near bow
 

On Dec 12, 9:45 am, "mmc" wrote:
wrote in message

... Why are you asking these 1980's questions? The answer to all your
queries is the same... rub some cowflap on your cheeks and it will all
go away.

Maybe she's a 1980's kind of girl...

On a list of the top 100 things that affect sailing ability, gel coat
blisters would not even make it on the list.
One could probably come up with 100 ways to improve sailing ability on
the average cruising boat more than getting rid of blisters.
A good example, most cruising boats are compromises, I happen to have
a shoal keel for cruising the shallow N. Gulf of Mexico whereas a deep
keel would give seriously better sailing performance. Absence of
blisters would make an insignificant change in performance and gel
coat blisters are not a structural or safety issue so I would not even
consider them in whether to buy a boat or not.

Gel coat Blisters below water line, forward, near bow
 

Frogwatch wrote:
On a list of the top 100 things that affect sailing ability, gel coat
blisters would not even make it on the list.
One could probably come up with 100 ways to improve sailing ability on
the average cruising boat more than getting rid of blisters.

Considering the condition of the average cruising boat, you're
probably right.


A good example, most cruising boats are compromises, I happen to have
a shoal keel for cruising the shallow N. Gulf of Mexico whereas a deep
keel would give seriously better sailing performance.

Not in your area. Running aground more often is not a way to improve
performance.... in your case I'd say you made a wise compromise! A big
centerboard or lifting keel can do both, but involves more maintenance
and/or structural issues and/or reduced accomodation.


... *Absence of
blisters would make an insignificant change in performance and gel
coat blisters are not a structural or safety issue so I would not even
consider them in whether to buy a boat or not.

But you'd consider the potential impact if they were serious blisters
in the laminate, and take the time to investigate. Time is money! And
if you were to consider making an offer, you'd make it less. Be
realistic!

Fresh Breezes- Doug King

Gel coat Blisters below water line, forward, near bow
 

On Dec 12, 10:09 pm, wrote:
Frogwatch wrote:
On a list of the top 100 things that affect sailing ability, gel coat
blisters would not even make it on the list.
One could probably come up with 100 ways to improve sailing ability on
the average cruising boat more than getting rid of blisters.

Considering the condition of the average cruising boat, you're
probably right.

A good example, most cruising boats are compromises, I happen to have
a shoal keel for cruising the shallow N. Gulf of Mexico whereas a deep
keel would give seriously better sailing performance.

Not in your area. Running aground more often is not a way to improve
performance.... in your case I'd say you made a wise compromise! A big
centerboard or lifting keel can do both, but involves more maintenance
and/or structural issues and/or reduced accomodation.

... Absence of
blisters would make an insignificant change in performance and gel
coat blisters are not a structural or safety issue so I would not even
consider them in whether to buy a boat or not.

But you'd consider the potential impact if they were serious blisters
in the laminate, and take the time to investigate. Time is money! And
if you were to consider making an offer, you'd make it less. Be
realistic!

Fresh Breezes- Doug King

Even with a shoal keel I figure that if I dont run aground most times
I go "gunkholing" I am not having much fun. All the cool places are
in shallow water. Running aground abrades the barnacles off so you
get more time between bottom painting.

Gel coat Blisters below water line, forward, near bow
 

Dave,
My observations over many years are the basis of my opinion. For your
benefit, my definition of "Terminal" is beyond economical repair. Blisters
below the Gelcoat can be very costly to resolve. When buying a glass boat as
Janet is, the presence of blisters should immediately turn her off. Unless
of course, the offered price makes the gamble of serious repair expense
feasible. The question she has to ask is, does she want a fiberglass hobby
or a sail boat she will sail. There are many variables here, like recurrence
in the same area or even elsewhere. Blister repairs are often unsuccessful
and if for no other reason, seriously affects the resale value of her
investment. She also has to consider today's economic climate. As much as it
is distasteful to the readers of this NG, it is a fact that many boats will
come on the market at extremely low prices and she will have much more
choice. There is no reason to take on this problem to a potential buyer with
cash.
Steve

"Dave" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 11 Dec 2008 17:47:11 +0100, "Steve Lusardi"

said:

but if the blister is actually in the
lamination, the damage can be very costly, even terminal.

What is the basis for that conclusion? Personal observation? Sea stories?

Gel coat Blisters below water line, forward, near bow
 

On 13 Dec 2008 12:25:01 -0600, Dave wrote:

On Sat, 13 Dec 2008 09:07:19 +0100, "Steve Lusardi"
said:

My observations over many years are the basis of my opinion. For your
benefit, my definition of "Terminal" is beyond economical repair.

Ah, the old Humpty Dumpty game. "When I use a word it means just what I
choose it to mean..." A technique frequently encountered when the speaker
recognizes his error but is unwilling to acknowledge it.

Give it up Dave. Steve knows a heck of a lot more about boats than
you do.

Gel coat Blisters below water line, forward, near bow
 

On Dec 13, 6:58 pm, Dave wrote:
On Sat, 13 Dec 2008 16:02:49 -0500, Wayne.B
said:

Ah, the old Humpty Dumpty game. "When I use a word it means just what I
choose it to mean..." A technique frequently encountered when the speaker
recognizes his error but is unwilling to acknowledge it.

Give it up Dave. Steve knows a heck of a lot more about boats than
you do.

Perhaps true. Perhaps not. The question here is whether he clearly
communicated such knowledge as he has. I know a heck of a lot more about
clear communication that Steve does, and based on that knowledge, as well as
the responses that followed his post, his choice of "terminal" did not
clearly communicate "unduly expensive to repair."

So, no evidence that gel coat blisters are EVER a structural or safety
issue and evidence that their presence is insignificant to anybody
except the most rabid racer and the stated opinions of surveyors that
blisters going deeper is extremely rare. On the same basis, I posit
that boats made in the month of June are bad and should be avoided.
Get real people, this is a well used 30' boat intended to be a cheap
cruiser.

Gel coat Blisters below water line, forward, near bow
 

On Sat, 13 Dec 2008 18:57:44 -0800 (PST), Frogwatch
wrote:

So, no evidence that gel coat blisters are EVER a structural or safety
issue and evidence that their presence is insignificant to anybody
except the most rabid racer and the stated opinions of surveyors that
blisters going deeper is extremely rare. On the same basis, I posit
that boats made in the month of June are bad and should be avoided.
Get real people, this is a well used 30' boat intended to be a cheap
cruiser.

That said, everything else being equal, I think most of us would agree
that a boat without blisters is worth more. Certainly blisters are a
perfectly valid negotiating point, as well as being a red flag for the
surveyor to do a more thorough hull analysis with soundings and a
moisture meter.

Gel coat Blisters below water line, forward, near bow
 

On Dec 14, 12:52*am,
Frogwatch wrote:
So, no evidence that gel coat blisters are EVER a structural or safety
issue ...

Interesting way to phrase it. Are we totally 100% sure that these are
"merely" gelcoat blisters? The presence of blisters warrants further
investigation; without thorough examination it can't be stated there
is no structural issue.


... and evidence that their presence is insignificant to anybody
except the most rabid racer and the stated opinions of surveyors that
blisters going deeper is extremely rare.

A surveyor who stated that would be incorrect. Gelcoat blisters can
turn into laminate blisters (or they might not, it's true) and
laminate blisters can very definitely be a structural problem. It's
not all that rare, I've seen a few cases without going out of my way
to look.


.... *On the same basis, I posit
that boats made in the month of June are bad and should be avoided.
Get real people, this is a well used 30' boat intended to be a cheap
cruiser.

Yeah but a cheap boat that "just needs some TLC" can end up being a
very expensive boat if you need to pay somebody else to fix it up.
Even if you have the skills to most of the work yourself, it can be
very costly to undertake a lot of kinds of work.

Wayne.B wrote:
That said, everything else being equal, I think most of us would agree
that a boat without blisters is worth more. *Certainly blisters are a
perfectly valid negotiating point, as well as being a red flag for the
surveyor to do a more thorough hull analysis with soundings and a
moisture meter.

Bingo. It all hanges on the exact condition of the boat and how much
comes off the price.

New Orleans Municipal Marina
 

Since Katrina, not much has been done to the marina. There was some
damage to the piers and wooden jetties, and of course no power or water
supplies, but over the years it still filled up with sailboats, all who
moored there free of charge.

Last Saturday there was a tenants meeting of the 'Interim Slip
Allocation' subcommittee.

The harbour is being divided in to three sections, only one of which
will have slips. The rest will be cordoned off to effect repairs, using
FEMA grant money for the contractors who will start work early March.

Thus, the 450 boats there were vying for the 165 slips available.

Where the 300-ish boats will go now is anyones' guess. The Northshore is
full, there aren't any marinas to the west since Gustav, leaving only
Gulfport, Port St Louis or Biloxi as possibilities.

For those who didn't make the cut (not registered, no application,
derelict etc) this is shaping up as a nightmare.

--
Molesworth - who made the cut

New Orleans Municipal Marina
 

On Mon, 15 Dec 2008 10:46:17 -0600, Nigel Molesworth
wrote:

For those who didn't make the cut (not registered, no application,
derelict etc) this is shaping up as a nightmare.

Congratulations. It sounds like everyone got what they paid for.
That couldn't go on for ever.

New Orleans Municipal Marina
 

On Mon, 15 Dec 08, Nigel Molesworth wrote:
Where the 300-ish boats will go now is anyones' guess. The Northshore is
full, there aren't any marinas to the west since Gustav, leaving only
Gulfport, Port St Louis or Biloxi as possibilities.

Gulfport Smallcraft Harbor is NOT an option. Every pier and every
piling is gone and haven't been replaced. Probably won't be anytime
soon. People are tying up and anchoring out in the rivers and bayous
inland which isn't a good solution but that's what we have for now.
Some of the other harbors along the coast are in better shape but
slips are at a premium everywhere.
Rick.

New Orleans Municipal Marina
 

wrote in message
...
On Mon, 15 Dec 08, Nigel Molesworth wrote:
Where the 300-ish boats will go now is anyones' guess. The Northshore is
full, there aren't any marinas to the west since Gustav, leaving only
Gulfport, Port St Louis or Biloxi as possibilities.

Gulfport Smallcraft Harbor is NOT an option. Every pier and every
piling is gone and haven't been replaced. Probably won't be anytime
soon. People are tying up and anchoring out in the rivers and bayous
inland which isn't a good solution but that's what we have for now.
Some of the other harbors along the coast are in better shape but
slips are at a premium everywhere.
Rick.


Slips are for women.
http://www2.victoriassecret.com/imag...218379_884.jpg

Only girly-men keep their boats in slips. Real men sail them and anchor them
out when they stop during their travels.

Wilbur Hubbard

New Orleans Municipal Marina
 

On Wed, 17 Dec 2008 15:18:50 -0500, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote:


wrote in message
.. .
On Mon, 15 Dec 08, Nigel Molesworth wrote:
Where the 300-ish boats will go now is anyones' guess. The Northshore is
full, there aren't any marinas to the west since Gustav, leaving only
Gulfport, Port St Louis or Biloxi as possibilities.

Gulfport Smallcraft Harbor is NOT an option. Every pier and every
piling is gone and haven't been replaced. Probably won't be anytime
soon. People are tying up and anchoring out in the rivers and bayous
inland which isn't a good solution but that's what we have for now.
Some of the other harbors along the coast are in better shape but
slips are at a premium everywhere.
Rick.


Slips are for women.
http://www2.victoriassecret.com/imag...218379_884.jpg

Only girly-men keep their boats in slips. Real men sail them and anchor them
out when they stop during their travels.

Real men don't even have a dingy. They anchor out and swim ashore.

Casady

New Orleans Municipal Marina
 

On Dec 18, 2:05*pm, (Richard Casady)
wrote:
On Wed, 17 Dec 2008 15:18:50 -0500, "Wilbur Hubbard"





wrote:

wrote in message
.. .
On Mon, 15 Dec 08, Nigel Molesworth wrote:
Where the 300-ish boats will go now is anyones' guess. The Northshore is
full, there aren't any marinas to the west since Gustav, leaving only
Gulfport, Port St Louis or Biloxi as possibilities.

Gulfport Smallcraft Harbor is NOT an option. Every pier and every
piling is gone and haven't been replaced. Probably won't be anytime
soon. People are tying up and anchoring out in the rivers and bayous
inland which isn't a good solution but that's what we have for now.
Some of the other harbors along the coast are in better shape but
slips are at a premium everywhere.
Rick.

Slips are for women.
http://www2.victoriassecret.com/imag...218379_884.jpg

Only girly-men keep their boats in slips. Real men sail them and anchor them
out when they stop during their travels.

Real men don't even have a dingy. They anchor out and swim ashore.

Casady- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

naa real men take the anchor to the bottom and place it in the most
secure location then walk to shore. swimming is for sissies.

New Orleans Municipal Marina
 

Two meter troll wrote:
On Dec 18, 2:05 pm, (Richard Casady)
wrote:

On Wed, 17 Dec 2008 15:18:50 -0500, "Wilbur Hubbard"





wrote:


wrote in message
...

On Mon, 15 Dec 08, Nigel Molesworth wrote:

Where the 300-ish boats will go now is anyones' guess. The Northshore is
full, there aren't any marinas to the west since Gustav, leaving only
Gulfport, Port St Louis or Biloxi as possibilities.

Gulfport Smallcraft Harbor is NOT an option. Every pier and every
piling is gone and haven't been replaced. Probably won't be anytime
soon. People are tying up and anchoring out in the rivers and bayous
inland which isn't a good solution but that's what we have for now.
Some of the other harbors along the coast are in better shape but
slips are at a premium everywhere.
Rick.

Slips are for women.
http://www2.victoriassecret.com/imag...218379_884.jpg

Only girly-men keep their boats in slips. Real men sail them and anchor them
out when they stop during their travels.

Real men don't even have a dingy. They anchor out and swim ashore.

Casady- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


naa real men take the anchor to the bottom and place it in the most
secure location then walk to shore. swimming is for sissies.


You guys need to get out of the house for a while.

New Orleans Municipal Marina
 

On Dec 18, 4:47*pm, Richard wrote:
Two meter troll wrote:
On Dec 18, 2:05 pm, (Richard Casady)
wrote:

On Wed, 17 Dec 2008 15:18:50 -0500, "Wilbur Hubbard"

wrote:

wrote in message
...

On Mon, 15 Dec 08, Nigel Molesworth wrote:

Where the 300-ish boats will go now is anyones' guess. The Northshore is
full, there aren't any marinas to the west since Gustav, leaving only
Gulfport, Port St Louis or Biloxi as possibilities.

Gulfport Smallcraft Harbor is NOT an option. Every pier and every
piling is gone and haven't been replaced. Probably won't be anytime
soon. People are tying up and anchoring out in the rivers and bayous
inland which isn't a good solution but that's what we have for now.
Some of the other harbors along the coast are in better shape but
slips are at a premium everywhere.
Rick.

Slips are for women.
http://www2.victoriassecret.com/imag...218379_884.jpg

Only girly-men keep their boats in slips. Real men sail them and anchor them
out when they stop during their travels.

Real men don't even have a dingy. They anchor out and swim ashore.

Casady- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

naa real men take the anchor to the bottom and place it in the most
secure location then walk to shore. swimming is for sissies.

You guys need to get out of the house for a while.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

cant I am currently snowed in.

New Orleans Municipal Marina
 

"Richard Casady" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 17 Dec 2008 15:18:50 -0500, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote:


wrote in message
. ..
On Mon, 15 Dec 08, Nigel Molesworth wrote:
Where the 300-ish boats will go now is anyones' guess. The Northshore is
full, there aren't any marinas to the west since Gustav, leaving only
Gulfport, Port St Louis or Biloxi as possibilities.

Gulfport Smallcraft Harbor is NOT an option. Every pier and every
piling is gone and haven't been replaced. Probably won't be anytime
soon. People are tying up and anchoring out in the rivers and bayous
inland which isn't a good solution but that's what we have for now.
Some of the other harbors along the coast are in better shape but
slips are at a premium everywhere.
Rick.


Slips are for women.
http://www2.victoriassecret.com/imag...218379_884.jpg

Only girly-men keep their boats in slips. Real men sail them and anchor
them
out when they stop during their travels.

Real men don't even have a dingy. They anchor out and swim ashore.

Casady

Real men sail a Mac26X or M. With a one-foot draught you don't need a
dinghy. Anchor in two feet of water and wade ashore. Deep draught boats are
only useful for crossing seas.

Wilbur Hubbard

New Orleans Municipal Marina
 

"Wilbur Hubbard" wrote in message
anews.com...

Real men sail a Mac26X or M. With a one-foot draught you don't need a
dinghy. Anchor in two feet of water and wade ashore. Deep draught boats
are only useful for crossing seas.

Wilbur Hubbard


Absolutely right. Real men stay in shallow water and don't cross seas.

New Orleans Municipal Marina
 

On Fri, 19 Dec 2008 08:47:32 -0600, "KLC Lewis"
wrote:


"Wilbur Hubbard" wrote in message
tanews.com...

Real men sail a Mac26X or M. With a one-foot draught you don't need a
dinghy. Anchor in two feet of water and wade ashore. Deep draught boats
are only useful for crossing seas.

Wilbur Hubbard


Absolutely right. Real men stay in shallow water and don't cross seas.


Congratulations Sir! You have just described Neil/Wilbur's entire life
in just 10 words.

Cheers,

Bruce
(bruceinbangkokatgmaildotcom)

New Orleans Municipal Marina
 

"Bruce Stuck at the Bangkok dock for 30 years"
wrote in message ...
On Fri, 19 Dec 2008 08:47:32 -0600, "KLC Lewis"
wrote:


"Wilbur Hubbard" wrote in message
ctanews.com...

Real men sail a Mac26X or M. With a one-foot draught you don't need a
dinghy. Anchor in two feet of water and wade ashore. Deep draught boats
are only useful for crossing seas.

Wilbur Hubbard


Absolutely right. Real men stay in shallow water and don't cross seas.


Congratulations Sir! You have just described Neil/Wilbur's entire life
in just 10 words.

Cheers,

Bruce
(bruceinbangkokatgmaildotcom)


Pay attention, Bruce. I realize you aren't interested in women since you're
gay but the K in KCL stands for Karin. And, she's a sweetheart, so I hear.

Wilbur Hubbard

New Orleans Municipal Marina
 

"Wilbur Hubbard" wrote in message
anews.com...

Pay attention, Bruce. I realize you aren't interested in women since
you're gay but the K in KCL stands for Karin. And, she's a sweetheart, so
I hear.

Wilbur Hubbard


Don't be too sure. I can be a bitch on wheels when I get my Irish up. lol

New Orleans Municipal Marina
 

On Dec 19, 6:47*am, "KLC Lewis" wrote:
"Wilbur Hubbard" wrote in message

anews.com...



Real men sail a Mac26X or M. With a one-foot draught you don't need a
dinghy. Anchor in two feet of water and wade ashore. Deep draught boats
are only useful for crossing seas.

Wilbur Hubbard

Absolutely right. Real men stay in shallow water and don't cross seas.

naa they cross oceans! they just use seas as pathways to the oceans.

New Orleans Municipal Marina
 

"Two meter troll" wrote in message
...
On Dec 19, 6:47 am, "KLC Lewis" wrote:
"Wilbur Hubbard" wrote in message

anews.com...
Real men sail a Mac26X or M. With a one-foot draught you don't need a
dinghy. Anchor in two feet of water and wade ashore. Deep draught boats
are only useful for crossing seas.

Wilbur Hubbard

Absolutely right. Real men stay in shallow water and don't cross seas.

naa they cross oceans! they just use seas as pathways to the oceans.

There are Seven Seas. I know this is a fact because I have a bottle of salad
dressing that says so.