"Wayne.B" wrote in message
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http://link.brightcove.com/services/...tid=2764360001

or

http://tinyurl.com/5vd2db

They get it going again towards the end of the video and it looks like
they are making at least 20 kts through big waves.

Did someone forget to let everything go? At the start of the clip, the helm
seems to be steering in the right direction, but the boat wasn't answering
to his turning the wheel. Too small a rudder?


Dennis.

On Sun, 23 Nov 2008 09:28:27 -0000, "Dennis Pogson"
wrote:


"Wayne.B" wrote in message
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http://link.brightcove.com/services/...tid=2764360001

or

http://tinyurl.com/5vd2db

They get it going again towards the end of the video and it looks like
they are making at least 20 kts through big waves.

Did someone forget to let everything go? At the start of the clip, the helm
seems to be steering in the right direction, but the boat wasn't answering
to his turning the wheel. Too small a rudder?


Good questions but it's not clear from the video what was keeping them
from easing the main. My guess is that the main sheet became fouled
in some way but I dont know. They were flying a spinnaker so it's
possible that some mix up on the foredeck was involved.

"Wayne.B" wrote
http://tinyurl.com/5vd2db


"Dennis Pogson" wrote:
Did someone forget to let everything go? At the start of the clip, the helm
seems to be steering in the right direction, but the boat wasn't answering
to his turning the wheel. Too small a rudder?


Doubt it's too small a rudder, looked to me like a "death roll" where
the boat gets too much windward heel and spins out in the opposite
direction of a traditional broach. Could have been the canting keel
did it to them. It looked to me like the spinnaker was pretty much
under control.

They certainly weren't execting it, nobody was near the runners much
less the mainsheet.

Poor *******s looked kinda cold, too

Fresh Breezes- Doug

On Sun, 23 Nov 2008 06:22:42 -0800 (PST), wrote:

"Wayne.B" wrote
http://tinyurl.com/5vd2db


"Dennis Pogson" wrote:
Did someone forget to let everything go? At the start of the clip, the helm
seems to be steering in the right direction, but the boat wasn't answering
to his turning the wheel. Too small a rudder?


Doubt it's too small a rudder, looked to me like a "death roll" where
the boat gets too much windward heel and spins out in the opposite
direction of a traditional broach. Could have been the canting keel
did it to them. It looked to me like the spinnaker was pretty much
under control.

They certainly weren't execting it, nobody was near the runners much
less the mainsheet.

Poor *******s looked kinda cold, too


They should have read the manual.

"Dennis Pogson" wrote in message
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"Wayne.B" wrote in message
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http://link.brightcove.com/services/...tid=2764360001

or

http://tinyurl.com/5vd2db

They get it going again towards the end of the video and it looks like
they are making at least 20 kts through big waves.

Did someone forget to let everything go? At the start of the clip, the
helm seems to be steering in the right direction, but the boat wasn't
answering to his turning the wheel. Too small a rudder?

I heard a guy ask if anyone had a knife and I saw him sawing away
at the rope that was holding in the mainsail shortly afterwards. It did not
seem to be the mainsheet.

On Sun, 23 Nov 2008 16:15:18 +0100, "Edgar"
wrote:

I heard a guy ask if anyone had a knife and I saw him sawing away
at the rope that was holding in the mainsail shortly afterwards. It did not
seem to be the mainsheet.

I missed that. Maybe they had a boom preventer rigged and either
forgot to release it, or gybed accidently as part of a roll and broach
situation.

Edgar wrote:
"Dennis Pogson" wrote in message


I heard a guy ask if anyone had a knife and I saw him sawing away
at the rope that was holding in the mainsail shortly afterwards. It did not
seem to be the mainsheet.


I heard the knife comment too and wondered why they are speaking
English. I'm not clear on the nature of what was going on at all.