On Sat, 22 Nov 2008 11:41:30 -0500, wrote:

On Sat, 22 Nov 2008 10:04:23 -0500, "Roger Long"
wrote:

I suggest you post some information and photos about your boat (don't attach
them here but put them on Flicker or a similar site and provide links) and
ask specific questions.

Some of the most active members of this group don't actually have boats but
just use this as a place to live out their fantasies and make cutting
remarks about people they envy. You'll get better responses if you can
demonstrate that you are a real person with a real boat.

What a warm and friendly greeting for a newcomer! Is there a written
test he has to pass before he's good enough to inhabit YOUR newsgroup?



Sounds like someone had his toes stepped on ... you don't have a boat?
Cheers,

Schwiek
(goodsoldierschweikatgmaildotcom)

On Nov 22, 7:04*am, "Roger Long" wrote:
...*You'll get better responses if you can
demonstrate that you are a real person with a real boat. ...

I'm sure I'm missing an important bit of your argument but as long as
folks ask on topic questions of a type that can at least potentially
be answered I don't care if the posters are boat owners or cruisers or
what. Why should it matter?

--Tom.

wrote

I'm sure I'm missing an important bit of your argument ...

You did and it's my fault for sloppy writing. I wasn't trying to say he
isn't welcome or shouldn't be asking questions here but that he would get
better and more considered answers here if he provides enough information to
assure people that they are real issues and enough data to provide
reasonable answers.

For example, his current question is whether he should take his 28 foot
sailboat down the coast. There is no answer to that. There are 28 foot
boats that shouldn't go across Long Island Sound and 28 foot boats that
could make a safe circumnavigation. All we know is that it has a mast
(maybe). Since he provided links to hundreds of pictures of old VW's and
none of the boat, I'm not inclined to give him any time.

I agree that, "I don't have a boat and have never sailed but think I would
like to try the cruising life.", is an excellent and legitimate question for
this group. You'll notice how few answers Neal got about his refrigeration
problem BTW. If you had asked that question, the thread probably would
have gone half a page.

I was just trying to give him some advice.

--Tom.

On Sun, 23 Nov 2008 07:28:20 -0500, "Roger Long"
wrote:

wrote

I'm sure I'm missing an important bit of your argument ...

You did and it's my fault for sloppy writing. I wasn't trying to say he
isn't welcome or shouldn't be asking questions here but that he would get
better and more considered answers here if he provides enough information to
assure people that they are real issues and enough data to provide
reasonable answers.

For example, his current question is whether he should take his 28 foot
sailboat down the coast. There is no answer to that. There are 28 foot
boats that shouldn't go across Long Island Sound

Long Island Sound is not always as benign as you seem to think Roger.
It has one of the highest average windspeeds on the East Coast, and is
also known for squalls that travel it's length, and can take gentle
rolling 2 foot seas to 7 foot breakers in a matter of minutes, with
winds of 60-70 knots.

The quiet period on LIS is only two months out of twelve. It's not
always guaranteed quiet, then, either.

And, yes, I've sailed in Maine. It has some different challenges, but
not any that are any more difficult to deal with. Someone with your
misinformed attitude could get in a lot of trouble in a hurry down
here.

wrote

(His usual putting words in the OP's mouth and then turning his words into
an attack on the OP's competence.)

Where did I say LIS was benign? I said there are 28 foot boats that
shouldn't sail across it. Sounds like you would agree.

I'll agree though, is would have been a clearer post to just say "the
harbor". The issue isn't the conditions, I've seen similar in Maine, but
the fact that the area is small enough that you can pick your weather and
seek shelter which isn't always possible going around the NJ shore.

--
Roger Long

On Nov 23, 4:28*am, "Roger Long" wrote:
wrote

I'm sure I'm missing an important bit of your argument ...

You did and it's my fault for sloppy writing. *I wasn't trying to say he
isn't welcome or shouldn't be asking questions here but that he would get
better and more considered answers here if he provides enough information to
assure people that they are real issues and enough data to provide
reasonable answers.

No, no, it's my fault Anyway, I'm with you that the question asked
wasn't answerable without more work. Sometimes that can be the result
of difficulties defining the problem and sometimes it is because the
poster is dishonest. In the first case there can be a useful
dialogue. I guess my difference with you here is that I'm not at all
concerned about the "reality" of the issues. I think good discussions
can be had on entirely hypothetical issues and even purely fantastical
ones. By the time it gets to my LCD it's all cyber stuff anyway...

-- Tom.

PS. Did I mention that I think the problem with hunting on my 2gm20
was with a faulty valve on the return line? On some versions of the
2gm and other Yanmars they "T"ed the return line and sent some of the
fuel back to the primary via a one way valve (a BB and seat). If that
valve leaks it makes enough vacuum to pull some fuel out of the filter
and you get air in the system... I removed the valve and took out the
"T" and that seems to have solved things. I'm sure that Yanmar went
to the trouble of doing things that way for a reason but so far I
can't see any difference in performance...

T.

wrote

PS. Did I mention that I think the problem with hunting on my 2gm20
was with a faulty valve on the return line? On some versions of the
2gm and other Yanmars they "T"ed the return line and sent some of the
fuel back to the primary via a one way valve (a BB and seat). If that
valve leaks it makes enough vacuum to pull some fuel out of the filter
and you get air in the system... I removed the valve and took out the
"T" and that seems to have solved things. I'm sure that Yanmar went
to the trouble of doing things that way for a reason but so far I
can't see any difference in performance...

Very interesting. All the fuel on my 2QM (earlier version) goes back to the
filter and it works fine.

--
Roger Long

wrote
I'm sure I'm missing an important bit of your argument ...


"Roger Long" wrote:
You did and it's my fault for sloppy writing. *I wasn't trying to say he
isn't welcome or shouldn't be asking questions here...


No, no, it's my fault

After you, my dear Alphonse.... c'mon you BOZOS! Don't you know how to
have an argument on the Internet?

No wonder USENET is dying!

DSK

On Nov 22, 7:04*am, "Roger Long" wrote:


You'll get better responses if you can
demonstrate that you are a real person with a real boat.

Some of the most active members of this group don't actually have boats but
just use this as a place to live out their fantasies and make cutting
remarks about people they envy.

Roger Long

Ya know roger Ive enjoyed myself this fall and just havnt wanted to
spend any time reading this stuff but your reply is just another
reason I belive your self promotion has grown to blatant arrogance. I
for one dont give a **** if he/she is a troll, has a boat, or is just
board. You know sorta why I tollerate your posts here......
Bob

Nice to have you back, Bob.

(Did you get a chance to read the Titanic book? "Titanics Final Secrets",
Brad Matsen, Twelve Books, available at Amazon and fine bookstores
everywhere.)

--
Roger Long