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On Sun, 30 Dec 2007 18:01:09 -0500, "Roger Long"
wrote: Any suggestions for a starting point? Yes, start by deciding whether you are willing to invest a lot in construction and additional weight with it's attendant increase in fuel consumption to make things just a little better. If it's worth it just to reduce motion by 10 - 15 percent, you can probably do something. Thanks, some interesting points there. Weight could largely turn out to be a non-issue if used only at anchor or as a backup to the dynamic stabilizer system (Naiads). It would be easy enough to pump some salt water up into the tanks when I wanted to use them, and drain it back out afterwards. I was thinking of buying a couple of fiberglass dock boxes from West Marine and cross connecting them with PVC pipes. The system could be tuned by restricting flow or adding additional pipes. I have no idea how to calculate optimal starting pipe size(s) however. Just for the sake of argument, lets assume 400 total gallons and a natural roll period of about 3 seconds. Given a 5 degree roll, most of that water would have to flow to the downhill tank in about 1.5 seconds if I'm conceptualizing this correctly. |
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On Sun, 30 Dec 2007 20:28:13 -0500, Wayne.B
wrote: I was thinking of buying a couple of fiberglass dock boxes from West Marine and cross connecting them with PVC pipes. The system could be tuned by restricting flow or adding additional pipes. I have no idea how to calculate optimal starting pipe size(s) however. Just for the sake of argument, lets assume 400 total gallons and a natural roll period of about 3 seconds. Given a 5 degree roll, most of that water would have to flow to the downhill tank in about 1.5 seconds if I'm conceptualizing this correctly. My first shot, off the top: two 30 in diam smooth pipes Brian W |
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On Sun, 30 Dec 2007 20:53:17 -0600, Brian Whatcott
wrote: Just for the sake of argument, lets assume 400 total gallons and a natural roll period of about 3 seconds. Given a 5 degree roll, most of that water would have to flow to the downhill tank in about 1.5 seconds if I'm conceptualizing this correctly. My first shot, off the top: two 30 in diam smooth pipes That's much too big of course. Can you take us through your calculations? It would take a large rectangular tunnel to achieve that much cross sectional flow area without creating an unworkable obstruction on the flybridge. |
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On Sun, 30 Dec 2007 23:53:18 -0500, Wayne.B
wrote: On Sun, 30 Dec 2007 20:53:17 -0600, Brian Whatcott wrote: Just for the sake of argument, lets assume 400 total gallons and a natural roll period of about 3 seconds. Given a 5 degree roll, most of that water would have to flow to the downhill tank in about 1.5 seconds if I'm conceptualizing this correctly. My first shot, off the top: two 30 in diam smooth pipes That's much too big of course. Can you take us through your calculations? It would take a large rectangular tunnel to achieve that much cross sectional flow area without creating an unworkable obstruction on the flybridge. I looked up a table of flow rates for smooth pipes of various diameters on Google and scaled to a flow rate of 12000 gal/min Brian W |
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