On Sat, 22 Sep 2007 10:55:52 -0500, Brian Whatcott
wrote stuff
and I replied:

But what is the cheap source of getting the vacuum? I figured there
had to be a vacuum, although it was not said. But how do you get it?

Well no, he obviously hadn't figured that out. Nor can anybody figure
out what is going to hold a column of water 40 ft high as was stated in
the original post. The tubes may be 40 feet but the column of water will
be considerably less. How much less will depend on how much energy is
heating on the hot side and how much energy is cooling on the cool side.
The total amount of energy needed is not going to be any different than
any other distilling method.
Unless you have the free or cheap sources of cooling and heating at
specific temperatures this isn't going to work any better either.

-jim



Well, at least this respondent Jim, is operating at shall we say the
7th grade level of science/engineering insight. Like so many other
products of the domestic school system, he seems to have a severe
case of self-esteem syndrome.

Still, he may be retrievable, starting with a science demonstration
he may have missed. Place a beaker of water in a bell-jar and pump
the air out.

When 99% of the air has been pumped out, the water in the beaker is
boiling vigorously, until, in the usual way, the beaker boils dry.
The beaker feels cool to the touch, naturally.

To quote him: "unless I have a cheap source of heating this won't
work..."

For the $64 prize: NOW do you get it?

Brian Whatcott Altus OK


Human bevaviour: Bestiality with a brain

Dear OldNick:

"OldNick" wrote in message
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On Sat, 22 Sep 2007 10:55:52 -0500, Brian Whatcott
wrote stuff
and I replied:

But what is the cheap source of getting the vacuum?
I figured there had to be a vacuum, although it was
not said. But how do you get it?

Fill the tubes, with a small air bubble in between. Lift the
tube at the bubble. No small feat if you are looking to make
hundreds of gallons per day, but a one-shot expense...

David A. Smith

On Sat, 22 Sep 2007 20:43:48 -0700, "N:dlzc D:aol T:com \(dlzc\)"
wrote stuff
and I replied:

Then how do you keep the freshwater tube so cool? It has to be a _lot_
cooler, not so?

Is this a continuous or pulsed process? How do you maintain stasis and
extract fresh water?

If you have a small air bubble, where does the extracted fresh water
go?

etc

Fill the tubes, with a small air bubble in between. Lift the
tube at the bubble. No small feat if you are looking to make
hundreds of gallons per day, but a one-shot expense...

David A. Smith


Human bevaviour: Bestiality with a brain

Dear Old Nick:

"OldNick" wrote in message
news
On Sat, 22 Sep 2007 20:43:48 -0700, "N:dlzc D:aol T:com
\(dlzc\)"
wrote stuff

Fill the tubes, with a small air bubble in between.
Lift the tube at the bubble. No small feat if you
are looking to make hundreds of gallons per day,
but a one-shot expense...

and I replied:

Then how do you keep the freshwater tube so
cool? It has to be a _lot_ cooler, not so?

Likely, yes. You could use evaporative cooling (of brine) on
that side, and solar heating on the other side.

Is this a continuous or pulsed process?

I woudl assume it could be either, depending on the
sophisticatioin of your control process.

How do you maintain stasis and extract fresh water?

Ever seen a mercury barometer? The bottom end of the tube ends
in a "pan" open to atmosphere. The bottom end of both tubes can
simply be sunk... one in the ocean, and one in a wet well for a
pump station.

If you have a small air bubble, where does the
extracted fresh water go?

The air bubble expands when the vaccum is created.

etc

etc. Take your shades off, dude. It is coloring everything you
see...

It isn't the greatest thing since sliced bread. But it is
another process, and a viable one.

David A. Smith

On Sun, 23 Sep 2007 21:57:56 +0800, OldNick
wrote:
....
Then how do you keep the freshwater tube so cool? It has to be a _lot_
cooler, not so?


I'm probably going to regret responding, but I will anyway, with a
question:

What is the difference in temperature between steam and water,
both at the boiling temperature of water, whatever it may be?

Cooler means lower temperature, right?

OK you can now answer your own question.
I hope.

Brian W

Dear Brian Whatcott:

"Brian Whatcott" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 23 Sep 2007 21:57:56 +0800, OldNick

wrote:
...
Then how do you keep the freshwater tube so cool? It
has to be a _lot_ cooler, not so?

I'm probably going to regret responding, but I will
anyway, with a question:

What is the difference in temperature between
steam and water, both at the boiling temperature
of water, whatever it may be?

Cooler means lower temperature, right?

OK you can now answer your own question.
I hope.

You don't happen to like bitters, do you? ;)

David A. Smith

On Sun, 23 Sep 2007 11:29:46 -0700, "N:dlzc D:aol T:com \(dlzc\)"
wrote:

Dear Brian Whatcott:

You don't happen to like bitters, do you? ;)

David A. Smith


Angostura I can take or leave:
India Pale Ale works for me,
but not if I've gone for a Burton.

:-)

Brian W

On Sun, 23 Sep 2007 18:10:09 GMT, Brian Whatcott
wrote stuff

and I replied:

You are a rude and arrogant prick


On Sun, 23 Sep 2007 21:57:56 +0800, OldNick
wrote:
...
Then how do you keep the freshwater tube so cool? It has to be a _lot_
cooler, not so?


I'm probably going to regret responding, but I will anyway, with a
question:

What is the difference in temperature between steam and water,
both at the boiling temperature of water, whatever it may be?

Cooler means lower temperature, right?

OK you can now answer your own question.
I hope.

Brian W

Human bevaviour: Bestiality with a brain

On Mon, 24 Sep 2007 09:38:16 +0800, OldNick
wrote stuff
and I replied:

and snickering, snide and childish as well

You are the sort of cliqueish dolt that spoils useful NGs like this.

If you have KF'd me, you simply prove your weak, childish nature.

It's shame. You do actually seem to have a lot of knowledge. IT's a
pity you have to use it to sneer and brag rather thatn help those
"lesser" than you


On Sun, 23 Sep 2007 18:10:09 GMT, Brian Whatcott
wrote stuff

and I replied:

You are a rude and arrogant prick


On Sun, 23 Sep 2007 21:57:56 +0800, OldNick
wrote:
...
Then how do you keep the freshwater tube so cool? It has to be a _lot_
cooler, not so?


I'm probably going to regret responding, but I will anyway, with a
question:

What is the difference in temperature between steam and water,
both at the boiling temperature of water, whatever it may be?

Cooler means lower temperature, right?

OK you can now answer your own question.
I hope.

Brian W

Human bevaviour: Bestiality with a brain

Human bevaviour: Bestiality with a brain

On Sep 25, 8:54 am, OldNick wrote:
On Mon, 24 Sep 2007 09:38:16 +0800, OldNick
wrote stuff
and I replied:

and snickering, snide and childish as well

You are the sort of cliqueish dolt that spoils useful
NGs like this.

.... "Go away" ...

If you have KF'd me, you simply prove your weak,
childish nature.

.... "Stay and argue with me" ...

It's shame. You do actually seem to have a lot
of knowledge. IT's a pity you have to use it to
sneer and brag rather thatn help those
"lesser" than you

.... "I will smear **** on you, if you don't argue with me" ...

Human bevaviour: Bestiality with a brain

Human bevaviour: Bestiality with a brain

How is it that you complain about other's behavior, yet you form not
one response but *two*, that show exactly the behavior your signature
talks about.

Is that signature line a complaint, an acknowledgement, or a promise?
Be good to know. Because it seems like we have a choice.

David A. Smith