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I must be missing something here. A dodger is just a roof. Why all the
epoxy and glass? I wouldn't use any glass and just use wood and epoxy for sealing. You should be able to build it in place and wood is alot easier to work with than glass. Either paint it or leave it natural. Bob On Aug 23, 11:03 am, wrote: Thanks to everyone for the replies to my prior questions about epoxy and fiberglass (discounting the use of polyester). You help and experience is appreciated. I'm planning to build a dodger for my sailboat, still researching and discovering.. After photographing hundreds of hard dodgers, and studying them carefully, I know that hard angular corners will not look good on my boat. I need to round the edges/corners to match the rest of the boat. What techniques should I research for changing the hard corners where two ply surfaces connect? How do I shape those round edges smoothly to have a professional looking curve? Plywood seems to be a good core for the large surfaces. I may use two or three 1/4 ply layers glued with epoxy. 1/4 inch ply will allow some curve to the sides and top, and having multiple layers will provide strength. This is a 50 foot boat, so 1/2 to 3/4 inch thickness would not look too flimsy, and the boat can accommodate the weight. My question at this time is how do you make a smooth tidy round corner where the sides and top meet, and where the sides and the front of the dodger meet. It seems that connecting the ply large surfaces together would add structural strength, but that would cause a hard angular appearance. Thanks for your input, (and please forgive my lack of experience). -Koos. |
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wrote: I must be missing something here. A dodger is just a roof. Why all the epoxy and glass? I wouldn't use any glass and just use wood and epoxy for sealing. You should be able to build it in place and wood is alot easier to work with than glass. Either paint it or leave it natural. This is going to be a large, say 12x12 rigid dinghy that will support a solar panel farm. Wood is heavy, wood will rot, and wood is weak when compared to a foam core complete with knitted glass and epoxy skins. The above structure would add a lot of weight high above the water line if made of wood. Just for reference, a 4x8x1/2 sheet of plywood weighs about 42#, while a 4x8x3/4 sheet of Divinycell weighs about 16#-17#. Lew |
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On Mon, 27 Aug 2007 20:21:58 -0700, "Lew Hodgett"
wrote stuff and I replied: This is going to be a large, say 12x12 rigid dinghy that will support a solar panel farm. Wood is heavy, wood will rot, and wood is weak when compared to a foam core complete with knitted glass and epoxy skins. Canoes and Kayakers will disagree. I had this discussion with one of the SNGlue/Strip kayakers, and they were very strong about wood vs foam....either snglue or strip. However, I have to admit that if the result is stiffness, noit inpact strength, then fioam wins at a given weight. The above structure would add a lot of weight high above the water line if made of wood. But not if made of wood (strip or sng ply) with the same skins or less (agaon local impact strength) Just for reference, a 4x8x1/2 sheet of plywood weighs about 42#, while a 4x8x3/4 sheet of Divinycell weighs about 16#-17#. For this purpose you need quite thin ply...1/4 or 3/8, and then less glass or WHY because it's better for puncture. Moot point. Just presenting the other POV. In my time I have tried both, and find it hard to really fight one way or the other. Lew Human bevaviour: Bestiality with a brain |
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Lew Hodgett wrote:
wrote: I must be missing something here. A dodger is just a roof. Why all the epoxy and glass? I wouldn't use any glass and just use wood and epoxy for sealing. You should be able to build it in place and wood is alot easier to work with than glass. Either paint it or leave it natural. This is going to be a large, say 12x12 rigid dinghy that will support a solar panel farm. Wood is heavy, wood will rot, and wood is weak when compared to a foam core complete with knitted glass and epoxy skins. The above structure would add a lot of weight high above the water line if made of wood. Just for reference, a 4x8x1/2 sheet of plywood weighs about 42#, while a 4x8x3/4 sheet of Divinycell weighs about 16#-17#. Lew That's for the foam panels only. Add the glass and epoxy and it will be nearer 43 pounds ![]() |
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"cavelamb himself" wrote: That's for the foam panels only. Add the glass and epoxy and it will be nearer 43 pounds ![]() The total weight is a function of the number of layers of glass in the skins, so the total weight probably exceeds 43#, but did you bother to calculate the stiffness of the foam/glass sandwich which is what truly drives the design? Lew |
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