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On 12 Nov 2006 10:10:05 -0800, "Skip Gundlach"
wrote: So, I'm at the point of doing my fuel system, as the mechanic is coming Saturday to do the servicing of the engine and align the tranny with me. At the St. Pete Strictly Sail last week, I saw a presentation on "fuel polishing" which was really a pitch for Algae-X. I think the only honest answer is that the jury is still out on Algae-X. The discussion has been going on for years now. Some people have claimed to get positive results but their claims have always been of a subjective nature. There have never been certified results from a reliable source that I am aware of. Without certified results I find it hard to believe that either the navy or USCG would sign up. That said, I can tell you from experience what does work. My tanks and fuel were in really lousy condition 2 years ago when I started. We now have parallel Racors and vacuum guages on each engine. The Racors can be switched in and out with ball valves on the input and output of each filter, allowing filter elements to be hot swapped underway. I also installed a fuel polishing system that allows the fuel to be continuously circulated through the Racors when I'm at the dock. I use Biobor fuel conditioner in the recommended quantities, carry a good supply of spare Racor filter elements, check the vacuum guages every few hours when underway, and drain a fuel sample from the bottom of the Racor bowl at every filter change. Since doing all of that we've had zero problems. |
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Skip Gundlach wrote:
At the St. Pete Strictly Sail last week, I saw a presentation on "fuel polishing" which was really a pitch for Algae-X. Algae-X has nothing to do with fuel polishing. Wayne.B wrote: I think the only honest answer is that the jury is still out on Algae-X. That's one way to put it. Another way is to say that nobody has ever been able to show that having your fuel run between two magnets has any positive benefits at all. .... Without certified results I find it hard to believe that either the navy or USCG would sign up. I think that unless there's a MIL-SPEC on it, then claims that it's used by any Federal agency are kind of dim. Let me put it this way... not too many years ago, I did engineering work by contract on several Navy and MSC ships. They did not have anything installed anywhere in any engineering system that was not type approved by NAVSEA (the gods of marine engineering). No Gulf Coast filters using toilet paper, no spinning magnets, no little crystal pyramids. That said, I can tell you from experience what does work. My tanks and fuel were in really lousy condition 2 years ago when I started. We now have parallel Racors and vacuum guages on each engine. The Racors can be switched in and out with ball valves on the input and output of each filter, allowing filter elements to be hot swapped underway. I also installed a fuel polishing system that allows the fuel to be continuously circulated through the Racors when I'm at the dock. I use Biobor fuel conditioner in the recommended quantities, carry a good supply of spare Racor filter elements, check the vacuum guages every few hours when underway, and drain a fuel sample from the bottom of the Racor bowl at every filter change. Since doing all of that we've had zero problems. Bingo! But hey, if you spend an extra 50$ on some new-age feel-good doohickey for your fuel system, you could probably save on some of those 7$ filter elements ![]() DSK |
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On Sun, 12 Nov 2006 16:10:22 -0500, DSK wrote:
But hey, if you spend an extra 50$ on some new-age feel-good doohickey for your fuel system, you could probably save on some of those 7$ filter elements ![]() Clean filter elements and a built in fuel polishing system are cheap insurance against an unsheduled shut down in my opinion. Skip has a sailboat so at least he has redundant propulsion. Judging from the stories I hear from people almost everyone, sail or power, has experienced a shutdown at one time or another from dirty fuel. One of my neighbors with a 40 something motor sailor told me that he and his wife stopped going to the Bahamas because they lost power everytime they crossed the gulf stream. That's the problem with dirty fuel; it almost always hits you in marginal conditions when you are least prepared to deal with it. |
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Just what is it with boat fuel? I've driven over 2 million
miles, over 30 years using 4 trucks and have never been shut down by dirty filters. I've had them freeze in Winter. SBV "Wayne.B" wrote in message ... On Sun, 12 Nov 2006 16:10:22 -0500, DSK wrote: But hey, if you spend an extra 50$ on some new-age feel-good doohickey for your fuel system, you could probably save on some of those 7$ filter elements ![]() Clean filter elements and a built in fuel polishing system are cheap insurance against an unsheduled shut down in my opinion. Skip has a sailboat so at least he has redundant propulsion. Judging from the stories I hear from people almost everyone, sail or power, has experienced a shutdown at one time or another from dirty fuel. One of my neighbors with a 40 something motor sailor told me that he and his wife stopped going to the Bahamas because they lost power everytime they crossed the gulf stream. That's the problem with dirty fuel; it almost always hits you in marginal conditions when you are least prepared to deal with it. |
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On Mon, 13 Nov 2006 18:19:31 -0500, "Scotty"
wrote: Just what is it with boat fuel? I've driven over 2 million miles, over 30 years using 4 trucks and have never been shut down by dirty filters. I've had them freeze in Winter. Good question. I think with boats the problem is large tanks sitting idle for longer periods of time. Condensation forms, and the interface between the water and fuel is where the little diesel bugs seem to thrive. Boats that are frequently used don't seem to have problems, same with trucks I suspect. Since virtually all diesel engines recirculate unburned fuel, just running the engines regularly filters the entire tank. |
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