Brazilian Teak
Is Brazilian teak as good as the stuff from S.E Asia?
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Brazilian Teak
Brazilian and Central American teak is plantation grown using a lot of
agricultural technology. It grows faster so the rings are thicker and the grain is a little more coarse. It is still resistant to rot and actually has a little better non-skid properties but it somewhat softer so it does not weather as well and has to be maintained more carefully. South East Aisian teak is almost impossible to get these days because of some world wide bans. What is available is usually smuggled out of Burma. x wrote: Is Brazilian teak as good as the stuff from S.E Asia? -- Glenn Ashmore I'm building a 45' cutter in strip/composite. Watch my progress (or lack there of) at: http://www.rutuonline.com Shameless Commercial Division: http://www.spade-anchor-us.com |
Brazilian Teak
Is it the same species, tectona grandis ?
Glenn Ashmore wrote: Brazilian and Central American teak is plantation grown using a lot of agricultural technology. It grows faster so the rings are thicker and the grain is a little more coarse. It is still resistant to rot and actually has a little better non-skid properties but it somewhat softer so it does not weather as well and has to be maintained more carefully. South East Aisian teak is almost impossible to get these days because of some world wide bans. What is available is usually smuggled out of Burma. x wrote: Is Brazilian teak as good as the stuff from S.E Asia? -- Glenn Ashmore I'm building a 45' cutter in strip/composite. Watch my progress (or lack there of) at: http://www.rutuonline.com Shameless Commercial Division: http://www.spade-anchor-us.com |
Brazilian Teak
You should be ashamed of yourself for even considering using this timber, it
is theft, and destruction of the rain forest, there is no legally guaranteed wood coming out of Brazil, Loggers are destroying communities, murdering in order to supply this timber. Please think again. ///////////////////////////// x wrote in message ... Is Brazilian teak as good as the stuff from S.E Asia? |
Brazilian Teak
I must correct myself. Did some checking and the trade name "Brazilian
teak" is actually Cumaru aka Ebo. Dipteryx, odorata, not teak at all. Similar in density, strength and durability to teak but less dimensionally stable. That is going to lead to no end of confusion because there are several large real teak plantations starting to harvest in Brazil. Jim Conlin wrote: Is it the same species, tectona grandis ? Glenn Ashmore wrote: Brazilian and Central American teak is plantation grown using a lot of agricultural technology. It grows faster so the rings are thicker and the grain is a little more coarse. It is still resistant to rot and actually has a little better non-skid properties but it somewhat softer so it does not weather as well and has to be maintained more carefully. South East Aisian teak is almost impossible to get these days because of some world wide bans. What is available is usually smuggled out of Burma. x wrote: Is Brazilian teak as good as the stuff from S.E Asia? -- Glenn Ashmore I'm building a 45' cutter in strip/composite. Watch my progress (or lack there of) at: http://www.rutuonline.com Shameless Commercial Division: http://www.spade-anchor-us.com -- Glenn Ashmore I'm building a 45' cutter in strip/composite. Watch my progress (or lack there of) at: http://www.rutuonline.com Shameless Commercial Division: http://www.spade-anchor-us.com |
Brazilian Teak
Centeral American and Brazilian plantations are growing real teak
started from Burmese seed selected for quality and growth rate. The primary difference is in the way it is grown. Plantation grown trees are spaced and cultivated to produce the highest stumpage yield in the shortest amount of time. That results in a somewhat coarser grain structure. You could compare it to old growth yellow pine that had to struggle for 50 years in the wild to grow to prime lumber vs modern tree farm yellow pine that is ready to harvest in 20 years. Same tree. Different growing methods. What had me confused was the term "Brazilian teak" which has nothing to do with teak at all. Bill wrote: There are also multiple "Teak "plantations in Central America. They are quoting something like 15 years to harvest, . I don't know the specie Bill "Glenn Ashmore" wrote in message news:dQDvc.5458$g%.3740@lakeread04... I must correct myself. Did some checking and the trade name "Brazilian teak" is actually Cumaru aka Ebo. Dipteryx, odorata, not teak at all. Similar in density, strength and durability to teak but less dimensionally stable. That is going to lead to no end of confusion because there are several large real teak plantations starting to harvest in Brazil. Jim Conlin wrote: Is it the same species, tectona grandis ? Glenn Ashmore wrote: Brazilian and Central American teak is plantation grown using a lot of agricultural technology. It grows faster so the rings are thicker and the grain is a little more coarse. It is still resistant to rot and actually has a little better non-skid properties but it somewhat softer so it does not weather as well and has to be maintained more carefully. South East Aisian teak is almost impossible to get these days because of some world wide bans. What is available is usually smuggled out of Burma. x wrote: Is Brazilian teak as good as the stuff from S.E Asia? -- Glenn Ashmore I'm building a 45' cutter in strip/composite. Watch my progress (or lack there of) at: http://www.rutuonline.com Shameless Commercial Division: http://www.spade-anchor-us.com -- Glenn Ashmore I'm building a 45' cutter in strip/composite. Watch my progress (or lack there of) at: http://www.rutuonline.com Shameless Commercial Division: http://www.spade-anchor-us.com -- Glenn Ashmore I'm building a 45' cutter in strip/composite. Watch my progress (or lack there of) at: http://www.rutuonline.com Shameless Commercial Division: http://www.spade-anchor-us.com |
Brazilian Teak
Brazilian Teak and other illusions
There's coming to be a lot of South American hardwood sold with misleading names and uncertain species or origin. Also of interest is Brad Ives' company Deepwater Ventures which imports boatbuilding woods. They are well respected. Glenn Ashmore wrote: Centeral American and Brazilian plantations are growing real teak started from Burmese seed selected for quality and growth rate. The primary difference is in the way it is grown. Plantation grown trees are spaced and cultivated to produce the highest stumpage yield in the shortest amount of time. That results in a somewhat coarser grain structure. You could compare it to old growth yellow pine that had to struggle for 50 years in the wild to grow to prime lumber vs modern tree farm yellow pine that is ready to harvest in 20 years. Same tree. Different growing methods. What had me confused was the term "Brazilian teak" which has nothing to do with teak at all. Bill wrote: There are also multiple "Teak "plantations in Central America. They are quoting something like 15 years to harvest, . I don't know the specie Bill "Glenn Ashmore" wrote in message news:dQDvc.5458$g%.3740@lakeread04... I must correct myself. Did some checking and the trade name "Brazilian teak" is actually Cumaru aka Ebo. Dipteryx, odorata, not teak at all. Similar in density, strength and durability to teak but less dimensionally stable. That is going to lead to no end of confusion because there are several large real teak plantations starting to harvest in Brazil. Jim Conlin wrote: Is it the same species, tectona grandis ? Glenn Ashmore wrote: Brazilian and Central American teak is plantation grown using a lot of agricultural technology. It grows faster so the rings are thicker and the grain is a little more coarse. It is still resistant to rot and actually has a little better non-skid properties but it somewhat softer so it does not weather as well and has to be maintained more carefully. South East Aisian teak is almost impossible to get these days because of some world wide bans. What is available is usually smuggled out of Burma. x wrote: Is Brazilian teak as good as the stuff from S.E Asia? -- Glenn Ashmore I'm building a 45' cutter in strip/composite. Watch my progress (or lack there of) at: http://www.rutuonline.com Shameless Commercial Division: http://www.spade-anchor-us.com -- Glenn Ashmore I'm building a 45' cutter in strip/composite. Watch my progress (or lack there of) at: http://www.rutuonline.com Shameless Commercial Division: http://www.spade-anchor-us.com -- Glenn Ashmore I'm building a 45' cutter in strip/composite. Watch my progress (or lack there of) at: http://www.rutuonline.com Shameless Commercial Division: http://www.spade-anchor-us.com |
Brazilian Teak
There are also multiple "Teak "plantations in Central America. They are
quoting something like 15 years to harvest, . I don't know the specie Bill "Glenn Ashmore" wrote in message news:dQDvc.5458$g%.3740@lakeread04... I must correct myself. Did some checking and the trade name "Brazilian teak" is actually Cumaru aka Ebo. Dipteryx, odorata, not teak at all. Similar in density, strength and durability to teak but less dimensionally stable. That is going to lead to no end of confusion because there are several large real teak plantations starting to harvest in Brazil. Jim Conlin wrote: Is it the same species, tectona grandis ? Glenn Ashmore wrote: Brazilian and Central American teak is plantation grown using a lot of agricultural technology. It grows faster so the rings are thicker and the grain is a little more coarse. It is still resistant to rot and actually has a little better non-skid properties but it somewhat softer so it does not weather as well and has to be maintained more carefully. South East Aisian teak is almost impossible to get these days because of some world wide bans. What is available is usually smuggled out of Burma. x wrote: Is Brazilian teak as good as the stuff from S.E Asia? -- Glenn Ashmore I'm building a 45' cutter in strip/composite. Watch my progress (or lack there of) at: http://www.rutuonline.com Shameless Commercial Division: http://www.spade-anchor-us.com -- Glenn Ashmore I'm building a 45' cutter in strip/composite. Watch my progress (or lack there of) at: http://www.rutuonline.com Shameless Commercial Division: http://www.spade-anchor-us.com |
Brazilian Teak
I have heard this specie of wood is also great for decks. Does anyone know who may supply this wood
in Canada? I would imagine that it may be available at the local Home Depot (but likely through special order). I watched a program of "This Old House" and they were using some sort of Brazilian hardwood to manufacture a patio deck. It had a beautiful dark colour and apparently did not require much in the way of preservatives. I have thought about this ever since seeing that program. I don't mind spending the extra if I do not have to use that ugly green pressure treated lumber (which by the way is highly toxic) for a deck. I could use whatever excess wood extras to create a decent wooden ceiling header and other nice accent wood pieces in my boat. Oh yeah, thinking hard about that one.... |
Brazilian Teak
Teak takes hundreds of years to mature and ready for harvesting, I certainly
know of any pep pills that would force grow Teak. "Bill" wrote in message ... There are also multiple "Teak "plantations in Central America. They are quoting something like 15 years to harvest, . I don't know the specie Bill "Glenn Ashmore" wrote in message news:dQDvc.5458$g%.3740@lakeread04... I must correct myself. Did some checking and the trade name "Brazilian teak" is actually Cumaru aka Ebo. Dipteryx, odorata, not teak at all. Similar in density, strength and durability to teak but less dimensionally stable. That is going to lead to no end of confusion because there are several large real teak plantations starting to harvest in Brazil. Jim Conlin wrote: Is it the same species, tectona grandis ? Glenn Ashmore wrote: Brazilian and Central American teak is plantation grown using a lot of agricultural technology. It grows faster so the rings are thicker and the grain is a little more coarse. It is still resistant to rot and actually has a little better non-skid properties but it somewhat softer so it does not weather as well and has to be maintained more carefully. South East Aisian teak is almost impossible to get these days because of some world wide bans. What is available is usually smuggled out of Burma. x wrote: Is Brazilian teak as good as the stuff from S.E Asia? -- Glenn Ashmore I'm building a 45' cutter in strip/composite. Watch my progress (or lack there of) at: http://www.rutuonline.com Shameless Commercial Division: http://www.spade-anchor-us.com -- Glenn Ashmore I'm building a 45' cutter in strip/composite. Watch my progress (or lack there of) at: http://www.rutuonline.com Shameless Commercial Division: http://www.spade-anchor-us.com |
Brazilian Teak
danny wrote: Teak takes hundreds of years to mature and ready for harvesting, I certainly know of any pep pills that would force grow Teak. Actually for being such a dense and hard wood teak grows incredibly fast. About the same as Southern Yellow Pine. At 15 years a plantation grown teak tree will have a clear bole 10-12" in diameter and 30' long. At that age they contain about 40% heartwood. However, trees in the range of 50 years old give the best yield of heart wood (in the neighborhood of 75%) Over 50 years the annual heartwood yield increase is not cost effective. Because of the cost of cultivation Central American trees are harvested betwen 15 and 25 years while SE Aisian trees grow for 35-40 years. -- Glenn Ashmore I'm building a 45' cutter in strip/composite. Watch my progress (or lack there of) at: http://www.rutuonline.com Shameless Commercial Division: http://www.spade-anchor-us.com |
Brazilian Teak
Derek ) wrote:
: I watched a program of "This Old House" and they were using some sort of : Brazilian hardwood to manufacture a patio deck. It had a beautiful dark : colour and apparently did not require much in the way of preservatives. Perhaps this was "Ipe". |
Brazilian Teak
"Chris Crandall" wrote in message ... | Derek ) wrote: | | : I watched a program of "This Old House" and they were using some sort of | : Brazilian hardwood to manufacture a patio deck. It had a beautiful dark | : colour and apparently did not require much in the way of preservatives. | | Perhaps this was "Ipe". Yup, you are correct. I did a search and found the exact info I was referring to. The show was "This Old House" with Norm Abram and the episode was "The Nantucket House" in which they installed an 'Ipe' deck ( amongst other things). LINKS This Old House "The Nantucket House" http://www.thisoldhouse.com/toh/tvpr...198625,00.html Information on Ipe wood http://www.edeck.com/IPE_HOME.HTM Cheers Derek |
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