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Bob Long May 23rd 04 05:13 PM

Old deck problem
 
I have a 1923 Clyde Day Sailer that has been somewhat neglected and the
problem
I want to sort out is the deck. the deck is made od tongue and grooved pitch
pine
boards about 4" x 1" and over time they have shrunk and bowed.
I would like to restor this to what it was. and cover it with Canvas in the
traditional way.
Do you think the boards will swell if I wet it and keep it wet for some time
?
or do you think I should replace the whole lot with new?

Also, has anyone used "antifreeze" in wood preserving and what where the
results like?

Cheers

Bob



P.C. Ford May 24th 04 04:00 AM

Old deck problem
 
On Sun, 23 May 2004 17:13:18 +0100, "Bob Long"
wrote:

I have a 1923 Clyde Day Sailer that has been somewhat neglected and the
problem
I want to sort out is the deck. the deck is made od tongue and grooved pitch
pine
boards about 4" x 1" and over time they have shrunk and bowed.
I would like to restor this to what it was. and cover it with Canvas in the
traditional way.
Do you think the boards will swell if I wet it and keep it wet for some time


or do you think I should replace the whole lot with new?

Before you replace with new wood:
Cover the deck with wet blankets for a few days. I straightened out a
warped deck last winter.
Also, has anyone used "antifreeze" in wood preserving and what where the
results like?


There was a guy that promoted antifreeze to cure rot. He also thinks
it is a mircle panacea when applied to the human body. There are more
effective ways of dealing with rot. The best is to replace the
affected member.

William R. Watt May 24th 04 04:21 AM

Old deck problem
 
P.C. Ford ) writes:

There was a guy that promoted antifreeze to cure rot. He also thinks
it is a mircle panacea when applied to the human body. There are more
effective ways of dealing with rot. The best is to replace the
affected member.


some members are irreplaceable

the guy is Dave Carnell, a chemist.
look at the writeup on his website.
someone posted the address here recently.
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Bob Long May 24th 04 07:59 AM

Old deck problem
 
I've heard that if you apply antifreeze to old timber it absorbs it like
water but does not give it up
so easily, thus stabilising the wood from further movement. and protecting
it from rot as a bonus!

cheers

Bob


"Bob Long" wrote in message
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I have a 1923 Clyde Day Sailer that has been somewhat neglected and the
problem
I want to sort out is the deck. the deck is made od tongue and grooved

pitch
pine
boards about 4" x 1" and over time they have shrunk and bowed.
I would like to restor this to what it was. and cover it with Canvas in

the
traditional way.
Do you think the boards will swell if I wet it and keep it wet for some

time
?
or do you think I should replace the whole lot with new?

Also, has anyone used "antifreeze" in wood preserving and what where the
results like?

Cheers

Bob





P.C. Ford May 24th 04 03:10 PM

Old deck problem
 
On 24 May 2004 03:21:32 GMT, (William R.
Watt) wrote:

P.C. Ford ) writes:

There was a guy that promoted antifreeze to cure rot. He also thinks
it is a mircle panacea when applied to the human body. There are more
effective ways of dealing with rot. The best is to replace the
affected member.


some members are irreplaceable


Could you give an example? In thirty years of doing this stuff for a
living, I have yet to find such a member.



William R. Watt May 24th 04 04:00 PM

Old deck problem
 
P.C. Ford ) writes:
On 24 May 2004 03:21:32 GMT, (William R.
Watt) wrote:

P.C. Ford ) writes:

There was a guy that promoted antifreeze to cure rot. He also thinks
it is a mircle panacea when applied to the human body. There are more
effective ways of dealing with rot. The best is to replace the
affected member.


some members are irreplaceable


Could you give an example? In thirty years of doing this stuff for a
living, I have yet to find such a member.


which body part are you using to earn your living?

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Brian Whatcott May 24th 04 06:12 PM

Old deck problem
 
On Mon, 24 May 2004 07:10:31 -0700, P.C. Ford
wrote:

On 24 May 2004 03:21:32 GMT, (William R.
Watt) wrote:

P.C. Ford ) writes:

There was a guy that promoted antifreeze to cure rot. He also thinks
it is a mircle panacea when applied to the human body. There are more
effective ways of dealing with rot. The best is to replace the
affected member.


some members are irreplaceable


Could you give an example? In thirty years of doing this stuff for a
living, I have yet to find such a member.


Evidently, the funny bone.

Brian W


Scott Downey May 26th 04 04:41 AM

Old deck problem
 
even antifreeze treated wood will dry out again
I wonder if the deck boards could be removed, reworked and relaid without
the gap.

"Bob Long" wrote in message
news:JY4sc.224$MU2.53@newsfe4-gui...
I have a 1923 Clyde Day Sailer that has been somewhat neglected and the
problem
I want to sort out is the deck. the deck is made od tongue and grooved

pitch
pine
boards about 4" x 1" and over time they have shrunk and bowed.
I would like to restor this to what it was. and cover it with Canvas in

the
traditional way.
Do you think the boards will swell if I wet it and keep it wet for some

time
?
or do you think I should replace the whole lot with new?

Also, has anyone used "antifreeze" in wood preserving and what where the
results like?

Cheers

Bob





William R. Watt May 26th 04 03:28 PM

Old deck problem
 
"Scott Downey" ) writes:
even antifreeze treated wood will dry out again
I wonder if the deck boards could be removed, reworked and relaid without
the gap.


when wood planks get wet and expand too much the fibres along the edges
are crushed. when it dries out permanent gaps open up. the wood cannot be
put back in its original shape to close the gaps. however if the wood only
dries out and gaps open up, then wetting the wood will close the gaps.

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Ray June 17th 04 08:24 PM

Old deck problem
 
Does anyone know Dave Carnell's website. The old one doesn't work, at
least not today June 17th

http://home.att.net/~DaveCarnell

Thanks

(William R. Watt) wrote in message ...
P.C. Ford ) writes:

There was a guy that promoted antifreeze to cure rot. He also thinks
it is a mircle panacea when applied to the human body. There are more
effective ways of dealing with rot. The best is to replace the
affected member.


some members are irreplaceable

the guy is Dave Carnell, a chemist.
look at the writeup on his website.
someone posted the address here recently.



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